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Irenesharda said: Here, I was able to gain emotional impact and hurt from the death of a character that we had only been introduced to a few episodes ago. I think it was the combination of his relationship with an actual named character and how much Masahiro meant to Akihiro. It was the fact that both Tekkadan and Turbines wanted to save him and were doing their best to do so. It was showing what a horrible life Masahiro and his fellow child slaves were enduring, that collectively made Masahiro’s death that much more impactful. The realization that this is what could have happened to Tekkadan’s men if they didn’t form such a tight knit bond with each other and have such support between each other, with leaders who looked after the group. Masahiro couldn’t take the idea of having hope again, his life as human debris destroyed him and it breaks your heart to see him choose death like that. Tbh I didn't like Masahiro when he kind of had a mental breakdown, yet when he pushed Akihiro away and laughed knowing he will die in less than few seconds, I felt something. While it wasn't incredibly heartbreaking to me, unknowingly, a few tears dropped. And then I thought about how Masahiro's reaction was understandable. He's been in this terrible situation for so long, still barely clinging to the hope that his older brother would come to get him. But when Akihiro finally does and tells Masahiro about the Tekkadan family, it made sense why he rejected it. I too would be jealous of how Akihiro was able to be happy, while suffering the whole time and not being able to do anything to get out of the terrible situation. Yet somewhere inside, Masahiro probably also hated these ugly emotions, why shouldn't you be happy for you family if they were able to be happy? I think it was just too much for Masahiro, this possibility of being happy coming right at you when you're in the darkness, it was too sudden. And as he said, the more he had hope the more he suffered. While Masahiro and the other kids weren't developed or anything, it really sheds a light about the depth of despair they were in, being Human Debris for so long. It's hard to blame them for all the anger they've had to held in. I think Masahiro's death was sad not solely because he died the way he did or because of his relationship with Akihiro, but because it showed the mentality kids like him had. They had no respect for their own lives. (Sorry I pretty much just said the same thing as Irenesharda) |
| I'm pretty convinced that iron blood orphans will have a second season with time skip. Otherwise I can not explain the slow pace and more screentime for the little sister from the gjallarhorn dude. |
| Just when I thought there was a possible happy ending... |
| When are we going to see character development on the enemy side? Too much focus on the protagonists IMO. We barely even know what the political landscape right now. I mean, what's going on between the economic blocs? ex_necross said: Well, this was the last chance this show had to redeem itself. Literally no named character died outside of some brother that was introduced last week and had a few lines of dialogue. Next episode will be a funeral for a bunch of nameless background characters. There is no more tension left in this series. They just won't kill anyone off. This was supposed to be the "bloodbath episode". Literally nothing happens: the anime. I couldn't agree more. |
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| I enjoyed the episode. Funny how people are saying in order for this show to be good some well known or big name character has to die. I agree with what was said in terms of Akihiro's brother, I felt nothing for him and his friends. Its the path he chose in the end. |
| RIP Masahiro episode 11-12. |
| Knew this was going to happen as soon as Masahiro was introduced, but dang that was depressing. This Gundam is way better than G-Reco and its actually not boring imo. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Damn, what a great episode! Hope Masahiro will open his eyes and come to the good side xD i mean if he is still alive. |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| RIP in pepperonni Masahiro. |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
tingy said: Great post.Irenesharda said: Here, I was able to gain emotional impact and hurt from the death of a character that we had only been introduced to a few episodes ago. I think it was the combination of his relationship with an actual named character and how much Masahiro meant to Akihiro. It was the fact that both Tekkadan and Turbines wanted to save him and were doing their best to do so. It was showing what a horrible life Masahiro and his fellow child slaves were enduring, that collectively made Masahiro’s death that much more impactful. The realization that this is what could have happened to Tekkadan’s men if they didn’t form such a tight knit bond with each other and have such support between each other, with leaders who looked after the group. Masahiro couldn’t take the idea of having hope again, his life as human debris destroyed him and it breaks your heart to see him choose death like that. Tbh I didn't like Masahiro when he kind of had a mental breakdown, yet when he pushed Akihiro away and laughed knowing he will die in less than few seconds, I felt something. While it wasn't incredibly heartbreaking to me, unknowingly, a few tears dropped. And then I thought about how Masahiro's reaction was understandable. He's been in this terrible situation for so long, still barely clinging to the hope that his older brother would come to get him. But when Akihiro finally does and tells Masahiro about the Tekkadan family, it made sense why he rejected it. I too would be jealous of how Akihiro was able to be happy, while suffering the whole time and not being able to do anything to get out of the terrible situation. Yet somewhere inside, Masahiro probably also hated these ugly emotions, why shouldn't you be happy for you family if they were able to be happy? I think it was just too much for Masahiro, this possibility of being happy coming right at you when you're in the darkness, it was too sudden. And as he said, the more he had hope the more he suffered. While Masahiro and the other kids weren't developed or anything, it really sheds a light about the depth of despair they were in, being Human Debris for so long. It's hard to blame them for all the anger they've had to held in. I think Masahiro's death was sad not solely because he died the way he did or because of his relationship with Akihiro, but because it showed the mentality kids like him had. They had no respect for their own lives. (Sorry I pretty much just said the same thing as Irenesharda) I realized that way more often than not, people tend to assume that the audience has to be emotionally invested in a character in order for their death to be impactful or to have significance, which is not true. |
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tingy said: Irenesharda said: Here, I was able to gain emotional impact and hurt from the death of a character that we had only been introduced to a few episodes ago. I think it was the combination of his relationship with an actual named character and how much Masahiro meant to Akihiro. It was the fact that both Tekkadan and Turbines wanted to save him and were doing their best to do so. It was showing what a horrible life Masahiro and his fellow child slaves were enduring, that collectively made Masahiro’s death that much more impactful. The realization that this is what could have happened to Tekkadan’s men if they didn’t form such a tight knit bond with each other and have such support between each other, with leaders who looked after the group. Masahiro couldn’t take the idea of having hope again, his life as human debris destroyed him and it breaks your heart to see him choose death like that. Tbh I didn't like Masahiro when he kind of had a mental breakdown, yet when he pushed Akihiro away and laughed knowing he will die in less than few seconds, I felt something. While it wasn't incredibly heartbreaking to me, unknowingly, a few tears dropped. And then I thought about how Masahiro's reaction was understandable. He's been in this terrible situation for so long, still barely clinging to the hope that his older brother would come to get him. But when Akihiro finally does and tells Masahiro about the Tekkadan family, it made sense why he rejected it. I too would be jealous of how Akihiro was able to be happy, while suffering the whole time and not being able to do anything to get out of the terrible situation. Yet somewhere inside, Masahiro probably also hated these ugly emotions, why shouldn't you be happy for you family if they were able to be happy? I think it was just too much for Masahiro, this possibility of being happy coming right at you when you're in the darkness, it was too sudden. And as he said, the more he had hope the more he suffered. While Masahiro and the other kids weren't developed or anything, it really sheds a light about the depth of despair they were in, being Human Debris for so long. It's hard to blame them for all the anger they've had to held in. I think Masahiro's death was sad not solely because he died the way he did or because of his relationship with Akihiro, but because it showed the mentality kids like him had. They had no respect for their own lives. (Sorry I pretty much just said the same thing as Irenesharda) You both said it better than I could. Great posts. Sad stuff. I knew someone was going to die(with all the recent death flags), but it still sucks. Poor Space Guts... It's a tragic life all these kids lead. Edit: Also, I don't understand why some people in this thread are saying that this is the path Masahiro chose in the end. Dude was taken away from his brother at a very young age, and he was basically turned into a slave. What other choice did he have? They couldn't leave. And because of that, they were emotionally and mentally destroyed. |
MormegilDec 21, 2015 4:38 AM
| G'bye Masahiro. Didn't care about you one bit lel. Well this Gundam is certainly an enjoyable one. |
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| Oh, shit!! #ThatIsAll |
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RayAdha said: I hopeHeh, Masahiro, good riddance. Super Saiyan Akihiro incoming. |
| When did Barabatos get the sword? |
| RIP Masahiro, that was pretty expected. |
White_Hawk2099 said: When did Barabatos get the sword? Remember that engineer who from Teiwaz? He gave the Barbatos an upgrade. Barbatos doesnt look visibly different from before so it was prob an under the hood performance upgrade. And he got a sword, though personally I like the mace-spear much better. |
AivanK said: Damn, what a great episode! Hope Masahiro will open his eyes and come to the good side xD i mean if he is still alive. Umm yeah.. he's dead. Gonna be sad watching Akihiro in the next few episodes :/ I agree with Orga with being sick of hearing all that human debris stuff. You guys are humans too! :( |
| There goes Masahiro...i'm pretty sorry for Akihiro. 4/5. |
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| This was too fast for me to keep up with and Masahiro's death was kind of predictable, but I still enjoyed it :) |
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| OH CRAP! I posted my reaction of the wrong episode in the wrong thread. I'm so sorry if I spoiled anyone here. :( |
AmyTwoDec 30, 2015 2:14 AM
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| Even if they're the enemy, it really is still unsettling to see kids getting slaughtered and crushed in their cockpits. But damn, that was really something with Masahiro. Him pushing Akihiro strikes me in two ways. The first is that he was saving Akihiro. Given his mindset, however, I'm led to believe that he was so absorbed in his own despair that he was rejecting his brother. It might have been that last moment realization of wanting to protect Akihiro, but it was also almost as if he wanted to make a point such as "We are human debris and this is all we're good for in the end." |
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| Nice tragic ending. |
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| Lafter needs a sexier mech to match her better. Big bro goes berserk next episode? |
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| i don't think the story has a slow pace. I'm enjoying how they explain things. IMO this pace is important to develop the characters to the second part of the anime About masahiro, i actually thought that akihiro was going to die. Death flags follow this character everywhere hhahahaha. If he survives till the end of this series i'll be impressed. |
| Well I never Masahiro to live or be rescued. He's more like a plot device for his big brother. |
| And rip Masahiro. Time for Akihiro to unleash inner SSJ. I really dislike that blonde guy that acts like The Joker or something. Hope he dies soon. Great action as well. |
tingy said: Irenesharda said: Here, I was able to gain emotional impact and hurt from the death of a character that we had only been introduced to a few episodes ago. I think it was the combination of his relationship with an actual named character and how much Masahiro meant to Akihiro. It was the fact that both Tekkadan and Turbines wanted to save him and were doing their best to do so. It was showing what a horrible life Masahiro and his fellow child slaves were enduring, that collectively made Masahiro’s death that much more impactful. The realization that this is what could have happened to Tekkadan’s men if they didn’t form such a tight knit bond with each other and have such support between each other, with leaders who looked after the group. Masahiro couldn’t take the idea of having hope again, his life as human debris destroyed him and it breaks your heart to see him choose death like that. Tbh I didn't like Masahiro when he kind of had a mental breakdown, yet when he pushed Akihiro away and laughed knowing he will die in less than few seconds, I felt something. While it wasn't incredibly heartbreaking to me, unknowingly, a few tears dropped. And then I thought about how Masahiro's reaction was understandable. He's been in this terrible situation for so long, still barely clinging to the hope that his older brother would come to get him. But when Akihiro finally does and tells Masahiro about the Tekkadan family, it made sense why he rejected it. I too would be jealous of how Akihiro was able to be happy, while suffering the whole time and not being able to do anything to get out of the terrible situation. Yet somewhere inside, Masahiro probably also hated these ugly emotions, why shouldn't you be happy for you family if they were able to be happy? I think it was just too much for Masahiro, this possibility of being happy coming right at you when you're in the darkness, it was too sudden. And as he said, the more he had hope the more he suffered. While Masahiro and the other kids weren't developed or anything, it really sheds a light about the depth of despair they were in, being Human Debris for so long. It's hard to blame them for all the anger they've had to held in. I think Masahiro's death was sad not solely because he died the way he did or because of his relationship with Akihiro, but because it showed the mentality kids like him had. They had no respect for their own lives. (Sorry I pretty much just said the same thing as Irenesharda) It didn't really have any emotional impact on me, but this is what I took away from the episode as well. Good post. |
| The action! The drama! I love it all. I understand why Masahiro acted and responded the way he did, I believe he went through a rougher experience than Akihiro and he didn't have any bros around him. He had companions but they were probably equally in despair as he was and couldn't find a glimmer of hope anywhere. Goodbye Masahiro. |
| 臭い- |
| Well, shit... That wasn't necessarily unexpected, but I didn't think Masahiro would die right in front of Akihiro. |
| I feel sorry for those kids under those pirates control. Masahiro saved his bro and sacrificed himself dying a Human Debris, he says. |
| After having this crap on my on-hold list for almost a year, I can say for sure that I want to drop this turd. This show has an incredibly weak script, story and boring characters. Nothing is truly worthwhile of your time in IBO. To make things worse, this has a second season as well, I'm scared to dare and think how bad that might be. If you want a good recent original mecha show, watch Kuromukuro instead, do not waste your time with this, or watch any other Gundam but this one. |
| :3 |
| Wow, a creepy space graveyard, dark ambiance, and gruesome action. I felt so bad for the kids aligned with the pirates, talking about death and hopelessness. I have a friend who talks like Masahiro. I thought he was going to kill Akihiro, but... In other news, Atra was so cute in this episode! |
| I guess it would have lost all it's Gundam credentials as a show if it did a completely happy ending at this mini-arc by getting Masahiro on the ship with others so at least he had to die. I don't get why people thing more of the main cast has to die right now. If some of them get killed is better to leave it close to the end really. If you kill characters like Akihiro now then who are you gonna kill if you need a death close to the big ending battles. The main guys? Space Guts going Berserk next episode. |
| Dat bento. Vito is dead. MASAHIRO!!!! |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Both of the brothers had deathflags, so I see it as Masahiro grabbing Akihiro's off of his hands. RIP Hoping Akihiro gets the honor of finishing off the pirates. |
| people clearly don't know how animated media works, for a character's death to be impactful it doesn't NECESSARILY have to be someone important, and Masahiro demonstrated why perfectly. this episode, although predictable, serves to put you into the mindset of a human debris and understand how little they value their own life, and masahiro's action completely reflects this concept. I also challenge anyone to welcome Akihiro's message of hope and light into that situation with open arms, when those poor children probably experienced years and years of abuse living in darkness, without hope and with a disarming amount of jealousy and anger, knowing probably only these emotions. |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| Epic battle about to happen This battle actually going crazy in multiple ways the brothers reuinite WHAT HAPPENED |
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