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| Mediocre but not bad. I had high expectations after the first two episodes but it didnt really deliver. Havent seen a satisfying mystery anime in a long time. Moe was annoying too |
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| Good opening + good ending + good art + good story (but some episodes were quite confusing/annoying) = Good anime = 7 |
| As entertaining as watching paint dry. The ED is just pure perfection though. |
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| It was slow for too long and then once it finally got going it just wasn't entertaining enough. The characters weren't all that interesting and that's what this whole show was about. Boring characters with slow pacing and a meh plot gets you a pretty boring show. At least the OP and ED were good. 5/10 |
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| Great wrap up episode, liked the OST. The biggest strength of the show was the atmosphere and direction. While I felt like there wasn't a lot happening for the first 5 or so episodes, the pay off at episode 10 was ultimately worth it. It really gave me a strong sensation of fear and just generally being creep-ed out, with the revelation of Magata's daughter. I just did not see that coming, although I thought maybe her sister was Magat herself since that's not an unusal plot twist in stories like this. The main problem the show had was Moe's character. She is so out of place, and very annoying. I don't feel like she added a lot to the show. And while I understand her clingy and needy attitude to Saikawa, it was still annoying. She could have been presented a lot better. I just couldn't care or be emotional invested with her backstory, found it quite dull. I found some topics and themes interesting, while some I didn't particularly care. I was very engaged when Saikawa was talking about people being contradiction, because I always thought the same, and it's the first time I've seen it being mentioned in a show. So I appreciated that. I don't think it's necessary to make sense of Magata actions, they are meant to be logical by normal standards but more about philosophy and an abnormal environment that shaped her way of thinking. Pacing could have been better but again the slow burn to episode 10 and 11, makes it all worth it imo. 8/10 |
tsudecimoDec 17, 2015 2:01 PM
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| Welp. I really liked Moe and her interactions with Souhei. Now if only the solution to the mystery wasn't this incomepetent and dumb... This year of Noitamina sure was quite bad Not one presentable show in their line up.  sigh |
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nihikun said: Existentialism (and nihilism) at its finest. Magata was probably a bit schizo since she was talking to dead people. She was able to predict their exact answers (imo) though due to her high intelligence. She killed her parents in order to grant freedom to her uncle which he refused. Until, 15 years later, he accepted Shiki's version of freedom, similar thing with her daughter. In her mind even the fact that you must be alive compromises your freedom, which in an extreme way of thinking is right. It pleases me to see that the series left people both satisfied and unsatisfied. It wasn't just a mystery anime, it had A LOT food for thought and in a sence you are free to decide if it was right or wrong, proving to everyone that right and wrong are abstract concepts determined only by each individual. I salute to your awesome insight. |
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| The OST, the animation and the story were amazing. I've really enjoyed the anime. And really loved the last episode too, damn Magata was soooo crazy. 9/10 |
| Dull as hell |
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| I'm kinda underwhelmed in the ending but nice episode overall. I really liked the dialogue between Shiki and her daughter and Sohei and Moe. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| Well it was interesting but maybe (just maybe) it could be a little better with more episodes. I give it a 6.5/10 |
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| So she took-in even her uncle to her multiple personalities in the end, what a interesting end. I enjoyed the clever art and camera direction of this series and its mood grew on me literally since the first episode. Also, nothing was pushed directly into your face which is also something I liked. Although this time the last scene (and the scene where Magata vanished) felt a little abrupt - what was the purpose of those two image freezes? Dunno. Anyway, I really liked this conversation-driven and thoughtprovoking drama. Bit philosophical too. And characters, their interactions - mainly Saikawa, Moe and Magata's were so well-written. They felt very real to me, that's something not many anime can do. There were many interesting questions dealing with shades of grey in this series and I really liked its thematic uncorrectness. One has to try to view the life through Magata's eyes to fully understand how she saw the world. Moral ambiguity of our actions and nihilism as main themes of this anime were very interesting topics. 7-8/10 Good mystery anime but even better criticism of our subconscious dependence on our modern society that governs what we think as good or wrong since our very birth. |
TheNaturalPerm said: Welp. I really liked Moe and her interactions with Souhei. Now if only the solution to the mystery wasn't this incomepetent and dumb... This year of Noitamina sure was quite bad Not one presentable show in their line up. sigh ? Saekano is very good |
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| Overall decent ending to a good series. At times it did feel like this anime when barely anywhere, but in the end it was satisfying enough. It would have been better if this was a 2-hour movie rather than a 1-cour anime series. 3/5 for this episode. 7/10 for this series. |
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HaXXspetten said: Probably best mystery anime of 2015 |
| Everyone in this thread is so triggered by a good show. |
| So it seems that at the end her daughter and her uncle became new personalities of hers, correct? since they also died. |
| Overall just another predictable closed-box mystery anime that tried to be more than what it was. 8/10 for visuals and likable characters mostly. |
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| Excellent story! ^.^ |
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| Magata disappeared in the end? 0____0 |
| They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. She keeps taking on the persona of people that die around her. Even her uncle at the very end. Also, was is specified if she did indeed kill her daughter? And was she really apprehended and killed or did she get away? All in all, throughout the opposing exchanges and convoluted, almost nonsensical ideologies, I thoroughly enjoyed this anime. The characters were likable, the themes were intriguing, the music was great, the character designs were unique and the atmosphere was duly fitting. 8/10 for me and one of the better anime of this season. Not that there's much competition tbh. |
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| I've played Resident Evil games that had better writing than this. And I don't even like Resident Evil (and not just because the gameplay is awful). |
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| Pretty interesting overall. But it's gonna be forgotten really fast tho. 7.5/10. But i can't. So, 8. Lucasloco91 said: Its average afTheNaturalPerm said: Welp. I really liked Moe and her interactions with Souhei. Now if only the solution to the mystery wasn't this incomepetent and dumb... This year of Noitamina sure was quite bad Not one presentable show in their line up. sigh ? Saekano is very good But hey, at least it wasnt the worst in these 4. |
DatRandomDudeDec 17, 2015 4:42 PM
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| I don't get the meaning of the last scene, when Magata talking alone |
| She mentions someones name at the end...Kishio and she mentions Michiru and her Uncle...who the heck was Kishio?! |
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| A couple more general observations after re-watching this episode. When Shiki is talking to Souhei in the real world, her views are very antinatalist. Life is a hindrance; death is liberation. However, in the flashbacks when she's talking to her daughter, her words are more optimistic and encouraging, particularly during the camel back ride in—I'm assuming—the virtual world (one of the most beautiful anime scenes ever); these thoughts are extended into—again, assuming—a kitchen back in her lab in the real world. Did the lab have a kitchen? I can't remember. I also understand why these scenes were so sad to me now. Shiki's optimism turned into a coldness that she fully embraced, then passed on to her daughter. And then it ends with Shiki alone, after having killed everyone close to her, having a schizophrenic conversation with herself. It's really depressing. 8/10 overall And it's about time I add Kenji Kawai to my favorite people list. |
| So...did she have twins and that's the one that was dead? This show is still about child abuse imo. ABUSE I SAY! Saikawa stop thinking about that psycho. |
| Decent ending. This show did not disappoint, definitely one of the better shows this season. The mystery in this show was pretty damn great. Also, loved both the OP and ED. 8/10. |
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| i liked their dialogue at the beginning ovarall it was a nice anime to watch |
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MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. Yes, she was schizophrenic. And she was genius too. And geniuses often has problem with their social life. In fact, this whole series was about her unability to sucessfully integrate into society. She didn't understand its rules. Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs to nowhere. She was left alone and the world didn't understand her. Her world and values were totally different from other people. And the real question here is "who decides what rules are correct?" Does "majority" just dictate those rules to "minority"? Imagine the world when her rules were in effect and where rules of our modern society were oulawed. How would you feel then? This series takes her difference as a fact and tries to show it from her viewpoint. It doesn't try to judge her and I really appreciate it becuse viewer should be the one who makes all final judging. |
| I really enjoyed this anime...but ultimately it was pretty messed up. I wasn't a big fan of the last scene of mother and daughter. Was it beautiful? Sure...but then I recall that mom chopped off her daughter's limbs and well...that's pretty f'ed. The philosophical garble was interesting but excused a cold hearted genius from facing the consequences of her actions. Did anyone else check out the crazy eye on the camel they were riding! Hah.. It captured my attention. |
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A chapel is shown during Nishinosono-kun's talk with Saikawa-sensei . A chapel was also featured in Episodes 9 and 10 of the live-action drama version of Subete ga F ni naru. |
| [quote=Mich666] MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. Yes, she was schizophrenic. And she was genius too. And geniuses often has problem with their social life. In fact, this whole series was about her unability to sucessfully integrate into society. She didn't understand its rules. Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs to nowhere. She was left alone and the world didn't understand her. I think she was more of a psychopath. She manipulated everyone around her...she seduced her uncle, (although it was molestation, she was not a victim), killed her parents, killed her uncle, and killed her daughter. She was a spoiled child who toyed and destroyed people like she did her doll. "Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs nowhere." I don't think she has the emotional capacity to feel or care in the slightest if the "world" understood her. |
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| The anime itself was OK, it's a 5.5 or 6 to me, but the pacing, some dialogues and the mystery makes it more an averege anime, but the great animation (seriously enjoyed the designs and some of the effects like the 'Accommodation' or however it's called) and the music (both op and ed are great). Anyways, it's definitely not a master piece but neither a bad anime, you'll just enjoy it if you like philosophical and mystery stuff. |
"Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything." |
| That last scene really creeps me out. So if she kills more...........? Still was a good show to watch, but not really worth 11 episodes. I guess it may just be for those who've read/seen the original sources. |
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| Aw shit. Magata Shiki trolled everyone from the first episode to the last. Such a philosopher, multifaceted and mysterious character like her didn't deserve a disastrous death but has to pay everything she has done nonetheless. Although a psychiatric hospital or perpetual confinement wouldn't stop her, and ironically a death sentence would release her, making possible to achieve her goal. My only regret was because of Nishinosono, although she wasn't expecting anything from Saikawa, she definitely needed more attention. Still, very good work from A-1 Pictures, the research around the murder was very entertaining to watch every week though I was left with some doubts. I don't know if it was intentional by the script or were just plot holes. Anyway, another favorite for the mystery genre. Excellent opening and ending, interesting characters (my favorite was definitely Saikawa) and enjoyable as a whole. Liked every episode from first to last and never got bored, not even for five minutes. 8/10 |
| lol, i just laugh together with Saikawa-sensei when he realize that she trick him(us) again, from the very beginning the characters always says that Magata Shiki is a genius, but i was still holding doubts, until the lasts episodes when all the truth comes to surface, heck, she IS Truly a genius, i think most of ppl still don't realize that she actually made the infamous "perfect crime" (i assume that "the perfect insider" has this as a basis) well, she have quite a long time to plan every little detail, so you can say that was expected too, lol, annyway, she is awesome, and like everyone says, "Every genius has a bit of madness" the last scene is all about it, explendid! *.* |
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| I really liked the atmosphere from this show, it just worked so well. I felt so meh about the solution though. The whole you couldn't possibly understand what Magata Shiki is thinking felt like they just couldn't come up with any real justification for her actions. I was looking to give it an 8 but in the last 3 episodes I just wasn't feeling it so I'll give it a 7. |
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bdsbff said: It was slow for too long and then once it finally got going it just wasn't entertaining enough. The characters weren't all that interesting and that's what this whole show was about. Boring characters with slow pacing and a meh plot gets you a pretty boring show. At least the OP and ED were good. 5/10 I agree with all of this. |
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