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Dec 30, 2009 5:51 AM

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Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
PandAEmiC said:
i really hoped for a rina ending :(

don't know why but i think rina diserved touya the most........
nobody still really explained what happened in this ending though
I am on your side with Rina but Yuki was my #2 in the beginning it was #1 but Rina took that place. In the end she let Yuki take her place but it could still be her. Season 3 would be so nice. Rina is with Yuki so they can still fight it out but after the Yuki biting her hand incident....probably not. I am still surprised that Rina said to Touya that his Goddess are sad because they love him. Makes no logical sense of how sadness and love can together in this context. Spock's logic says so.
No not a season 3, seriously. After ending it like this it would be outright stupid to make another season.
I mean, there's nothing else to do in a season 3, without introducing completely new characters that'd have nothing to do with anything, which would just make the whole thing stupid.
Possibly though, if they'd do some spin-off OVA where you get your Rina-ending, or whatever you want, but not whole new season, kthnxbai

Your logic is good, a spin off OVA of 4 episode maybe would be a good thing for a Rina ending.....

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Dec 30, 2009 7:00 PM

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Another example of try to wrap up an anime ending and leave lots of questions. I really got into this anime and it was going really well, but now I have to question the writers. Did you all get fired at the last 5 minutes before the ending?


In the end he is alone, just like his father was. He didn't end up with any of them, he was only left with good-bye's. Remember that he never really loved any of them, he was just stuck on Yuki. A gold axe would be goddess like and a bronze axe is more human like, so the ending is saying that he will start looking for something realistic.

Just my opinion. >.>
Dec 30, 2009 7:24 PM

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oh.. so we get a slightly open ending.. hell, this anime is confusing and even more so towads the end.. just gave it an 8..

francis, do you have a rina ending pic similar to what you posted for yuki? post it here, too.. i wanna see..

and btw.. for me, nana and aya don't blend well in that duet when they're singing together.. don't know.. perhaps aya's voice don't match well and can't keep up with that of nana-sama.. it's good when they're alternating, though.. hope there is a nana-only version of that song if it would be released.. i'ma download only that..
Dec 30, 2009 10:22 PM

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argilium said:

francis, do you have a rina ending pic similar to what you posted for yuki? post it here, too.. i wanna see..

Since you asked for it here it is: this is the Rina x Touya ending from the VN but it does not happen in this anime obviously because of the good bye mirror thing.
hauptg said:
In the end he is alone, just like his father was. He didn't end up with any of them, he was only left with good-bye's. Remember that he never really loved any of them, he was just stuck on Yuki. A gold axe would be goddess like and a bronze axe is more human like, so the ending is saying that he will start looking for something realistic.

Just my opinion. >.>

Hey I like that opinion by realistic is most likely to be Yuki but it can be still Haruka but from how it was revealed probably not.

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Jan 1, 2010 1:59 PM

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I started to follow the serie since the first season and had disappointed all the way through but I was hoping for a nice ending, that's the only reason why I kept on watching. Overall, I think it's a good anime, just a true slice of life. You can't expect so much about it but just a real story about life.

I think this episode couldn't have been so much better, it has some nice elements that wrapped it all together. I like those types of ending where it's not clear and leaves you to your imagination. Well done.
Jan 2, 2010 2:35 AM

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As expected this ending was horrible and done way too fast. Touya's reasons for losing his memory are stupid. His reasons...or lack of reasons for sleeping with women are stupid. Rina's brother's conclusion is stupid. The conclusion to this series is stupid. I don't think there was one good thing about this ending.

The apartment building that Touya was at looked like Yuki's. Yayoi handed Touya what looked like a password or address number of some kind signed by Yuki. I'm guessing it's either the password to get into the building or it's the contact room number so she can buzz him in. They showed this 1 second after Haruka says "Yuki's waiting for you" which further proves that this is her apartment building.

The Thank you, good bye message on the window looked like it was from Rina. Rina was the one that taped the letter up before. Looks like she gave him a box of chocolates and the ticket to the show that was in the letter.

I found it stupid how they dropped so many hints that Yuki and Touya where related yet they didn't even touch on that or explain why they resemble each other or why his father was so close to Yuki. Even if they where just Childhood friends we still know nothing about Touya's mom or dad during his childhood or what really happened to his mom. We don't have a clue why Touya hates his dad so much other then the fact that he forced Touya to go look for a medal in the woods. Sorry but to me that's just not good enough to justify hating your father for the rest of your life. Even if that was the reason...Touya should have forgotten all about it like everything else.

Gah I could go on and on about how horrible this conclusion or even this series was. They really should have spaced it out more and kept it simple and to the point.

I still thought the series as a whole was good (7) but towards the end it became a major let down.

:) told you guys there wasn't a nice boat ending. That type of shit is rare so stop trolling the forums.
Jan 2, 2010 5:34 PM

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Lol, What is this??????
I fell off in my chair, after watching this episode and I even double check if there is another season.
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Jan 3, 2010 12:56 AM

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Okay the first season was repulsive I think most people can agree on that.

Now then, I barely picked the second season up. After wasting time with the first I just wasn't sure if this one was gonna be good enough.

Unexpectedly, the second season was going well for a while. It was actually INTERESTING. Womanizing, scandals, etc. There were actual ISSUES that makes up a good story.

The ending was, for a lack of better terms... fucking WEIRD.

The duet was GREAT. Everything after that... well... fucking weird.

I don't even know what to say about it...

Anyways, you can't judge a series based solely on its ending.
It was very good for a while, so overall, 8/10. (x2 of first season score)
Jan 3, 2010 9:45 PM

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mm okay ,I can't believe i'm going to say this ..

WHITE ALBUM is WAY BETTER THAN SCHOOL DAYS ..It has a story ,heavy symbolisms and so much stuff going on .School days was not bad but the story was very shollow just like anyother harem with a scary ending that teaches you a
moral lesson ..

And I a gree with hauptg- Toyua ended up a lone and not with yuki .This is the best ending for him because he screwed a lot for him to go back to Yuki and it was all because he was searching for his real goddess ..This anime took a different direction than most harem animes .The writers focused more on helping Touya escape his past while the whole 'which girl his going to end up with was left ambiguous/open ' and left for our imaginations instead ..
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Jan 5, 2010 10:35 PM
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Oh. Gosh. What can I say? Ending---- Obviously uncleared, but I guess he did end up with Yuki. I just don't like how all of a sudden, you hear all the girls' voices, and it's like.... What are they trying to do? Create a harem ending or something? I'm not sure if I really like any character in this series. If I had to choose.... It might be Rina, Mana, or Akira. Rina is just great. Mana and Akira seems to be more neutral.
Jan 7, 2010 2:05 AM

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I'm just going to regurgitate that I also thought that it was a horrible ending. However, I'm a realism (...wait a second I need to go find a Nice Boat for that...) junkie when it comes to romance. I actually liked both seasons...

I still love Yayoi...
Jan 18, 2010 6:20 AM

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So the realy GODDESS of the show(not Touya's) is Menou? So she used her ultimate skill which is called "Miracle" and created a happy ending for everyone in this show? That is
overall i gave it a 5/10....
Jan 20, 2010 9:48 AM
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Kinda dissapointing end. I actually enjoyed most of this season, unlike the first which had me sleeping through most of it. However, the end was way to predictable and boring. I never liked Yuki, she's dull and easily manipulated, and the way I perceived the end, he ended up resolving his issues with the "goddess" thing, remembering how to love, appologizing to Yuki and starting over with her. Well whatever, hopefully he can be more faithful at least.
Jan 23, 2010 5:00 PM

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Meh! Didn't really like the end. I was rooting for Rina. I hate Yuki the whole serie. Kinda disappoint that they that Rina didn't sing Secret Chaos. Hope they will release an album or an OST with that.
Jan 24, 2010 12:43 AM

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I was wondering if someone could PM a link to the corrected ASS file. I only have the original HorribleSubs file with the wrong subtitles. Any help would be appreciated. thanks.
Jan 26, 2010 1:23 PM
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Haha, lol'd so hard when Yuki gave Toya a "good job" medal for pissing in his pants. :'D
Would take that more like slander than an act of gratitude.

I want to believe it was Yuki he was waving to in the end. Perhaps there's gonna be a 3rd season, so we can find out about that..
At least they left the season to a point where it could be possible to continue later.
Jan 26, 2010 1:45 PM

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This ep is a best in the whole series...I believe in the end he was with Yuki, since he had let her waited for so long...
overall 8/10
Feb 19, 2010 11:14 AM

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Kind of a weird ending, but awkwardly satisfying.

I can understand finally what his dad meat when he said to Yuki that "What will happen may be sad for you and Toya" now.

Not the best drama of all times, but it deserves a solid 7.

Two things that are bad about this series is that,

1) It was confusing as fu*k.

2) Rushed, and no explanation.

I guess I'd have to play the VN now. pfft.
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Feb 20, 2010 4:53 PM
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"Did you drop a gold axe? Or was it a silver axe?"

Best part of the whole episode.
Apr 17, 2010 8:33 PM

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The ending was rather confusing and slightly weird.
May 19, 2010 1:43 AM

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I was a bit confused at the end when they started jumping between scenes during his conversation with Haruka. Anyway, if I understood it correctly, Yuki was his true "goddess". And he started flirting with other women, because he was trying to search for the "goddess" he had forgotten long ago. His story sort of correlated with Eiji's, who was also searching for something he had lost through paintings. However, Eiji was lost during his search, while Touya was saved by his goddess or whatever. That was the impression I got after finishing the show...

May 20, 2010 6:07 AM
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I'm almost certain that it's an Yuki ending. Didnt she say she would wait for him indefinitly and fall in love with him all over again? Seems to me that's exactly what's happened. While Touya says farewell to all of his godesses in the last couple of episodes, he doesn't say goodbye to Yuki. After the last goddesses left him (Menou and Mana) he clearly states "And all is right in the world". I think he means that eveything is as it should have been. The interaction with Yuki on the stage and later the conversation with Akira clarify that Touya has been rid of the goddess syndrom and now only has eyes for Yuki ("Yuki I'm sorry for the wait"). The last scene seems to be on a staircase of a station, where Yuki and Touya should have met the first time we had seen them on a date (episode 4). But then there were the Goddesses Rina and Mana that interfered. Because of them they met a couple of hours later.

The meaning of the note 010004 is "I'll be waiting" just as Yuki wrote in episode 5 of season 1. It isn't a phone number.

As for what Yayoi is doing: I think has liked Eiji the whole time and finally wants to take a step. Sorry for her he has to do something else first. I think a seach for himself, after he had his eyes opened.

I think "What I lost" refers to the axe of Aesop. This is a summary of the tale:

**A woodman lost his axe into the river when it glanced off a tree he was felling. Mercury (the God) appeared while the man was lamenting his loss, and on hearing his tale dived into the river, and recovered a golden axe. "That's not mine," said the woodman, so Mercury returned it to the river, resurfacing this time with a silver axe. "That's not mine," again said the woodman, and again Mercury returned it to the river, resurfacing this time with the woodman's own axe. "That's mine," said the grateful woodman. Mercury promptly rewarded the man for his honesty by giving him the golden and silver axes as well. On hearing the woodman's tale, an envious friend set out to do as the woodman had done, visiting the same spot and deliberately losing his axe in the river. Just as before, Mercury appeared and dived in to recover the lost axe. When Mercury produced a golden axe, the man greedily stretched out for it claiming, "That's mine." Mercury, not best pleased with the man's dishonesty, held on to the golden axe, and refused to recover the original.**

But....It would haven been simpler when they had shown us just one image of the two together. What were they trying to accomplish? Make us think about the series? They already made me ponder in overtime, so that's not it. Just one still had sufficed. Oh well in stead of 100% sure, I'm 95 % sure, so that doens't make a real significance.
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Jul 4, 2010 4:25 PM

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I just finished this anime and I completely understand everything that happened so ask away! The only discrepancy is who he ends up with. In my honest opinion its 90% yuki 10% haruka. Everything suggests yuki as he finally realizes that she was her first 1 and only goddess,remembers his past, etc... He also had ties severed with every girl romantically. He said goodbye to all of them if you remeber except rina and yuki. BTW the goodbye with Haruka was when they talked after they had sex and she said he was going back to being his brother etc. Then Rina(cmon guys obviously) wrote the words on the wall. First off yuki wouldnt do that,second off the letter was last in possesion of rina, and second yuki has said no matter what she would love fuji. The only reason why it might be haruka was the metaphor with the gold and silver ax suggesting yuki and rina but he chooses bronze. And bronze could only be haruka. That is the only dilemma but the visual novel doesn't seem to have a haruka route so its safte to assume he ends up fully devoted to yuki.
Aug 17, 2010 5:35 PM

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noteDhero said:
...and I thought Umineko had a bad ending. Words can't express how underwhelming and anti-climactic this ending was. Rina gets her voice back within the first few minutes of the episode and then goes to sing with Yuki for no real reason. Then we have the remaining 2/3 of the episode to explain the primary misunderstanding of the entire season: Touya was a pussy when he was a kid, and a thoughtless child to Yuki. Is that really a secret?

This was just bad, everyone gets a nice bow on all of their stories just for the sake of a happy ending. Honestly, though, the show probably wouldn't have been so terrible if the story had been presented in a more straightforward manner. Maybe then we would have had more focus on the enjoyable character interactions like Menou and Mana, more music, and less melodrama. The scene with Mana, Menou, and Touya felt like about how the show should have gone. I hate to suggest that it should have played it safe, and been mediocre, but that's far and away better what I just finished watching.

Dropped from a 6 to a 4/10

Agreed. I also hate the messages presented here. Touya screwed around with so many girls and somehow gets and ending that tries to put him in good light? That it was all ok because all the girls loved him? And why? Why did they love him? The guy has zero likable traits! I will give a medal to a girl who still thinks a guy is cool after he pisses himself in front of bullies.

School days may not have been prefect but it got the message right. If you fuck around with girls, you get fucked. It's simple. It's true. Nobody is going to walk away from something like this smelling like roses.

And correct me if I am wrong but I think it takes more than something like that memory to traumatize a child. Especially one as stupid as this child. The reason that justified all his cheating is all pinned on some memory as insignificant as that? Sounds like he's just trying to run away from the problem by pinning the blame on that. Realistic my ass.

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Oct 3, 2010 7:13 PM

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One of the best, if not the best, duets ever. Aya and Nana are amazing. Anyone know where I can download the song in the duet version along with the piano solo at the beginning?
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Oct 9, 2010 8:12 PM
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I remember his father saying that Touya will always be alone... Or something about that....
Jan 12, 2011 5:23 AM
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shitty wrap up if you ask me, but i didn't expect anything more since the plot was so shitty in general. they try to justify and explain touya's actions in 5 minutes and it just doesn't work. hes still an asshole and nothing will change that. throughout the series ive been asking myself "how in the world are these people falling in love with this guy, hes complete garbage"

the explanation of the savior-goddess was exceptionally poor/weak and thats really the whole plot of this anime. yes touya, because doing favors for other goddesses will thank yuki. and yes, you can screw them, smart thinking. and of course you can cheat on 5 girls AT THE SAME TIME. which reminds me, i laughed when Rina was desperately trying to say its not his fault. this whole anime is his fault.

all in all, the major backbone of the story and the reason why touya acted as he did was because of this goddess crap and I DONT BUY IT. no excuse for how he acted and he DESERVES to be alone forever.

4/10 hands down, the worst romance anime i've seen in my life. quite possibly the worst anime in general for me. why did i finish it? i dont like to stop halfway and i was hoping he would die so whatever
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Jan 18, 2011 11:05 AM

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Jan 31, 2011 5:45 AM

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I have never been so glad that I could rate the two halves of a series differently. The first half of this series was awesome for both the romance and the music industry plotlines, a pretty great homage to the 80s. Then director changes from Akira Yoshimura to Taizo Yoshida and the second half is just school days, making the main character a total douche who sleeps with nearly every main female character, and putting in a freudian explaination for the "goddess of the day" motif. Also couldn't even bother to decide on a real conclusion to the romance. Taizo Yoshida is now on my list of least favorite people.

10/10 for the first season, 4/10 for the second.
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Feb 4, 2011 2:44 PM

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I finally finished this one. I guess I'm jumping to the bandwagon here since I'm glad it was a happy ending but it was also weird for me at the same time. It kept me entertained (more like raging at Touya every time actually) the whole time I was watching the entire second season so it wasn't that bad.
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Mar 19, 2011 12:11 AM

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Actually.. i didnt like this whole anime.. but i forced myself to watch final episode..

and.. i like final episode.. with Rina_yuki song.. wow.. it's good song..

we stil dont know.. did yuki and touya break up or make up their relationship..

Touya you deserved it!! because u make yuki heartbreaked with ur cheating!!

Sep 7, 2011 8:51 PM
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the whole time i hated touya... this whole 26 episodes, i wanted him to end up alone and die. he is too indecisive and stupid. He has no backbone nor spine. He is weak and pisses his pants easily.

This is what I hate about some japanese manga/anime protagonists in harem/ romance genre. They are loved by all girls but has no will power or power to think by themselves.

I have to admit this series is good and bad. What I mean is that one part of me wants to give it a good rating and the other doesn't... there were times I found the series boring. Sometimes, I found it very interesting.

It does seem like he did end up with Yuki. The one who wrote "good bye" with red lipstick is Rina. Do you guys remember when Ogata used red lipstick to write the number of audience they need at the stadium to beat the sakura girls from M3? It can't be anyone but Rina. Plus... that fancy room was Rina's place lol. He no longer works for her as a manager with her saying good bye to him.

I really wished he would end alone... but the ending was way too loose. It almost made the whole series look bad. More explanation and what happens after venus would have been nice.

To me, it seems like the anime just tried to look all mysterious and ended up creating just needless confusion everywhere. I like the plot but i do not feel fond of how anime carried the series out. Therefore, I am willing to check out manga and visual novel... if I can find the visual novel that is lol... I hear there's multiple ending other than yuki route...
Sep 26, 2011 2:40 AM
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I just finished the series like 10 minutes ago. I give it a 7 or 8/10. I understood everything. At the end its obvious he ended up with Yuki as she already stated she would pretty much stay in love with him no matter what when talking to his dad in the Hospital. Now lets leave that topic and go to my favorite topic. Makato from School days vs. Touya from White Album..

Ok I didn't like Makato but i have to say...I LIKED HIM WAY MORE THAN TOUYA. First off Makato may have cheated on his girlfriend but.. he only knew her for like a couple weeks if that. Touya cheated on a girl who he had had been dating for YEARS! Who he had known since he was a CHILD! Makato was a teenager I can sort of forgive his ignorance.. Touya was 20+! IN COLLEGE! I don't get why those females like is the most unrealistic piece of trash I have ever seen. How can they like this unfaithful piece of crap?

How can Yuki.. fall back in love with a guy who had sex with Haruka, Her manager, and Misaki? I don't get what the females saw in a dude who is 20+ calling females Goddesses everywhere he goes, he's not super smart, he's not trust worthy, he'll do any girl who kisses him. I wish he didn't end up with Yuki but I am 100% sure that he did. He deserved to be alone like the piece of trash that he was. For him to even LOOK at Yuki or even think about her after all he had done through this series makes me SICK! Makato > Touya. I wish Rina would of stayed as Yuki is the most boring female character I've ever seen. I don't get why he didn't fall for Haruka..she did so much for him...and wanted to spend time with him on so many occasions. Touya is a lost cause! He is a male that can never be trusted LOL. Well i'm done!!! Good job White Album, make some OVAs or if you make a season 3 make it go back in the past and alter it in a way that he is just a loner fantasizing about being with all those females. Cause Touya is a piece of crap!

Anyway I enjoyed this series! It Was a Good Ride! GOOD DUET AT THE END AND GOODBYE White Album! I'm Out!
Feb 7, 2012 4:46 PM
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ehm... i got mixed feelings , can't decide if i'm satisfied with ending or not,
It still looks like girls were tricked but now i see it as they were tricked willingly as they knew bout each others rivals and still loved him.
Since ending was somewhat unclear i'd say he either ended up with Yuki as she was main girl and his 1st , kinda, or everyone went their own ways and he found new girl but this time only one since he seemed to realize his mistakes.
Last ep was very good.
so im deciding between 7 - 8 / 10
BTW: Do I miss any worthwhile anime-romance from guy's point of view in MAL? Let me know without hesitation :)

Feb 28, 2012 8:35 AM

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Oh I get it now. This is a comedy! Ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Apr 15, 2012 12:17 PM

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What is with all these whining and hating...?

-The male lead didn't seem to end up with anyone for sure? 6/10
-The whole thing is so confusing... 5/10
-I hate Touya. He's fornicated with every women he meets while looking pathetic as fuck.... 5/10
-The plot sucks, he lost memories because of a freaking medal? WTF? 4/10

If you fall into any of the above category, just do yourself a favor and stick to kiddie predictable mindless shows. You're clearly haven't had your first menstrual cycle or your balls haven't dropped yet.

and please...

Stay safe.
Sep 11, 2012 7:50 PM

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Alright, this series confused the hell out of's unclear who Touya ends up with even though I think it should of been Yuki from the very beginning. But then, there's Yayoi, Rina, and the others.

Yup, I'm confused as fuck and shitty ending. 5/10.
Dec 23, 2012 1:01 AM

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I'm taking off points. I hate open endings. I was analyzing the episodes in the first season and part of the second season, but it just didn't live up to it. I was expecting more drama, and for someone to die. It was a given that Touya's father would die. Everything was anti-climatic.

The photos of Yayou and Touya went nowhere, Akira was hit by a car and was fine, Misaka was stabbed and wasn't hurt, Yuki was overly sensitive didn't go crazy, and the fat stalker guy somehow became a hero. Everything somehow wraps up nicely, but the ending is left open. He obviously goes with Yuki, but at least show them together. Don't leave it open just to annoy the fans, and come up with their own ending.

7/10 - Mostly for the drama, but nothing really bad happened.
Feb 23, 2013 1:07 AM

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The duet was really good, but as for the ending itself, it wasn't satisfying at all... -o-

All the drama in season 2 just seemed so forced...
Mar 10, 2013 10:28 PM

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WTF is up with the ending!! Sucks so much!! These are the kind of harems I loathe - guys who are so indecisive that they can't choose one girl, so he sleeps (or have a relationship) with all of them. After cheating with the girlfriend (Yuki), he (even she) wont break up with each other. Pathetic! I thought this was realistic, but I guess I thought wrong.
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Jul 19, 2013 5:05 PM

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This series had nothing going from the beginning so I was looking forward to the ending and lol.

-The story was all over the place since the start.
-The art was fine for most of the Anime.
-The only think I liked is the sound. Some of the songs are pretty pleasant to hear and jazzy BGM was nice, though out of place sometimes.

Jul 25, 2013 4:21 PM
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I think a simple explanation would be:
- Touya says good bye to every savior goddess
- Touya no longer works for Rina as manager, and probably stay just friends.
- Mana, Menou, Kanzaki move away
- Touya having been traumatized by his childhood past runs away from it, buries it I should say especially after his dad scolded him real bad.

- Yuki stated she would give Touya a second chance by falling in love with him again should something unfortunate happen. In this case Touya forgetting about her, making her wait, so she puts that in the past and only focuses on the present/future which is a fresh start relationship with Touya.

I assume Touya was waving at Yuki as he came down the stairs. During the performance if I remember correctly I remember seeing Touya say "I'm sorry for making you wait" in his head, as Yuki looked at Touya. To show he was sorry for making you wait he raised his hand and did a throw gesture, which only Yuki would know.
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Aug 20, 2013 4:13 AM

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The anime wasn't close to my favorites, but I need to pass time and started watching. As I said once Touya started sleeping around with Yuki's manager and the things with all the other girls, I just wanted to watched to see the episode where Yuki would find out obviously and give him a good one so that he would deeply regrets that he's been screwing around and shit since he at least seemed to care about Yuki -- him crying in the car with Yoaya (SP) and after Rina read him the letter.

About the trauma, I won't belittle that since everyone is different and people can have trauma based on the different incidents whether we see as nothing too significance; it was to Touya. But I'm glad it got resolved in the end and he seemed to be thinking clearly then.

As a romance sucker, I like something like true love, so while I did not like Touya I still wouldn't have minded a happy ending with him and Yuki as they seemed to really loved one another at one point and their relationship was deep rooted back to childhood. Though the screwing around made him untrustworthy in my eyes. How many times did he mess up and lie to his girlfriend? How would anyone know he wouldn't do that again?

In the end it seemed like he probably did end up with Yuki, patching things up and starting fresh with all the goddess issue resolved and all the girls are fine in the end, accepting that it wasn't meant to be with Touya. I'm glad he didn't do it with Rina because I really liked her -- her integrity and her relationship with Yuki specially. While Yuki was really sensitive and cried a lot, I gotta loved her softness because she seemed so genuine and caring. I also liked Mena. Could careless about Menou though since she was only introduced later. Didn't really care about Haruka or Misaki and didn't like the manager one bit.

Despite him sleeping with any girl who would throw herself at him, it seemed like who he truly cared about romantically was only Yuki and since she's all forgiving and would wait for him indefinitely I can only conclude that Touya would end up with her. All suggesting it with the hotel scene in the end, his "I'm sorry for making you wait" as he came to terms with it and Yuki smiling at him on stage.

I gotta say that it was kind of cute that the place on his back was reserved only for Yuki.

Overall, I'm kind of glad I finished watching this anime. I hate open endings as it seems like it's never satisfying even if the ending is supposed to be realistic.
Sep 29, 2013 5:53 PM
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Confusing ending but 99% sure he ended up with Yuki.
Even in his talk with Haruka he says he's going as they are standing in front of her apartment. Other then Yuki all the goddesses get their own goodbye versions. The mirror was obviously Rina as indicated by the letter that was meant for Touya from the start.
The duet was great indeed but i wished we could have seen a little more of a finished end.
1 thing i don't really like is how people can endure and fall in love with someone who seems to cheat on everyone while they even know it.I doubt if my girlfriend ever cheated on me i would ever speak to her again :D
gave it 8/10 since it did fulfill the harem setting quite nice while not having a boring Main that is to scared to touch anyone for once.
Oct 7, 2013 5:07 AM

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Confused .-.- , the begining of this episode was awesome, i was overjoyed to see rina and yuki finally singing together .....but then it went downhill again(just like the series). Rina seems to be my favourite girl of the whole series and yayoi being my least favourite.
Oct 25, 2013 12:06 AM

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Posts: 462
Gotta love the people who claim the story sucks and was all over the place simply because they didn't understand it and couldn't be bothered to think a bit more.

Yes it wasn't an extremely definite ending, however I felt like this anime as an entity has introduced a lot of positive innovations and concepts that really distinguished it from the rest of the pile. Most of the harem romance anime that floats around are shallow to the point where it's essentially the same crappy see-through plot repeated multiple times per season with new characters and new fanservice. At the very least White Album made it so that we had to think (tough I know.) and deduce through a plethora of subtle hints in order to draw our own conclusions. Not everything is spelled out for you. You had to go through your own ending with your imagination. In this aspect, I'd say the anime did quite a job of adapting the visual novel.

Of course that doesn't mean I understand everything. I'm still quite confused about Shinozaki's "plan", which I think was to make Touya "disappear", but that part about "since you didn't help her when she was in need... you are no longer a threat.. my plan has failed" is really counter-intuitively unsettling. Overall I do believe that he ends up with Yuki. The message on the dressing room was definitely Rina's, as she was the last person who had the letter, and Yuki's handwriting doesn't match the mirror's. Last scene: There's no way he could have looked that happy meeting Akira. Think about it. When has he ever smiled and waved to Akira excitedly? If the penultimate scene with them in front of Yuki's apartment and Touya getting his piss-γ‚ˆγγ§γγΎγ—γŸοΌ medal back wasn't suggestive enough, the other girls could be eliminated based on deduction.
Mana - went to college
Menou - left with Mana
Yayoi - didn't appear ever since her last scene with Touya
Rina - for the reason above
Haruka - heavily implied that she's over him, even went on "Date" with Akira
Misaki - her letter after Touya's father died
Kanzaki - the fuc-

And if I do recall correctly, the phrase "Yuki can forgive cheating, but she can't forgive herself for being unfaithful" popped up sometimes in the earlier episodes. She even self-inflicted a wound in frustration at how helpless she was when Rina stepped up (sometimes I wonder if Rina only did it to motivate Yuki, and never really liked Touya). She would rather hurt herself in frustration than come to doubt Touya. I think that says something.

Overall a really innovative and engaging series. I felt like it wasn't just me starting at a brain-cell burning box for 26 episodes worth of time.


I'll admit though, Fujisaki Touya is a worthless, spineless piece of dick-for brain ass-wipe. I have never seen someone so hell-bent on being retardedly passive and helpless in situations when he needs to take action. At least he realized his own indecision and clueless "repaying" was actually hurting everyone around him. Makes him better than a certain Nice Boat protag.
Nov 11, 2013 12:26 PM
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Posts: 15
just finished the series...........something something tells me that he ends up as menou and mana new papa................

JK i 99% believe it is yuki and touya is..........i dunno, maybe because its an anime, but he could probably very handsome looking, but he's unique
Nov 11, 2013 11:25 PM

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So this all pretty much happened because he pissed his pants huh.
Nov 12, 2013 12:46 AM

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Posts: 40
@HowTragic , i agree entirely with what your saying, i reached many of those conclusions myself. I didnt really get he whole can forgive you but cant forgive herself for unfaithfullness thing tho. that confused me because nothing happened really after yuki kissed whats his face
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Nov 13, 2013 3:37 PM

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 201
Wow that ending was unfulfilling for me.. well at least it wasnt like a complete Yuki x Touya ending, which i was afraid it would be. How can anyone like this maincharacter after what he did? He is even worse than the main character from School Days, because a.) he knows Yuki a lot longer and b.) hes more mature so he should know better.

Damn this season had a lot more "Wtf" moments, most of them pissing you off, the animation quality went down a bit and the great classic background seemed to be less often used. Over all im glad the anime could keep me very interested and entertained for 26 episodes... especially because of this the ending hurts even more. What a shame
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