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| :[ I expected soo much more. I still enjoyed this series though. Somehow. w_w |
| Compared to the first season I found the 2nd one rather sweet, entertaining and I really liked Suou, probably the only reason I was watching this. Also the opening from Stereopony was awesome. Never liked Yin and Hei that much, ok characters but not really interested in them. After all a nice season. |
| This was one of the most disappointing animes I've watched. I remembered waiting months for this to come out back in 2009 but never got the chance to watch it. This was nothing like the first season, and the ending made no sense! 6/10. There better be a third season to offset this. |
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| I've just finished to watch this anime and i tought it quite good 9/10 i just have a question, what happened to Hei exactly , does he died with Yin ? |
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| While the ending was a bit confusing, after sleeping on it, I've kinda worked it out in my head. This is my opinion on the matter. Careful, spoiler alerts. As stated before in the series, the Gate is where dreams come true, with a price. Shion was not Izanagi, he was simply a contractor that needed Izanami's and the Gate's power to see his dream come true. The new Earth, where his sister could live happily. The price of the wish was his life. If I recall correctly, it was said once in the first season that Pai, or whatever Hei's sister's name was, was indeed Izanagi. And since her powers or soul, are locked inside of Hei, that would make him Izanagi. But, instead of things going like the Mikata documents said they would, Yin allowed Hei to kill her. On a side note, I think he was finally able to bring himself to kill her because Suou basically slowly died in his arms because of Yin. And to explain the male Yin, the evil side of Yin could have forced Shion to make a copy of her since, she basically knew that Hei was going to kill her along with the nice Yin. Or Shion did it willingly, for whatever reason. And the defect of the copy was that it was a boy copy. And my thoughts pertaining to the part where Hei is walking with a presumably dead Yin: He could be walking her to the new world that was created. That is what I see to be most logical but, I would prefer that he was just taking her to her final resting place, at one of the stars, and he himself would then move on to the new Earth. This is because I was a sucker for SuouxHei, haha. In my mind Suou made the second season enjoyable and bearable to watch, mostly because I was rooting for her the whole series..... just to see her die slowly at the end [Insert sad face]. Now, don't get me wrong, their age difference is pretty large but, I mean look at the world they are living in, it is all fucked up to hell anyway. If being with a guy that is possibly 10 years older than her, why not? If it will make her happy then go for it. Not like much else in their world was going to bring any joy. |
| Just finished the series the ending is a total WTF. seriously? well im happy for sou and cute little July for receiving a happy ending i did cry a little when they died since i really liked both of them together something i didn't expect but other than that the ending was just all over the place. It obviously was rushed and cramped up. And whats the deal with another Yin or whatever resurfacing at the end, that's another fucked up something. after all of everyone's efforts and half of the main cast getting killed it just results to nothing but another evil being reborn. Anyway i need a new season. This sequel just made a mess off the first one and i need another season for everything to be set straight. Also i just can't leave Misaki and Li/Hei's relationship like that after 2 seasons and 4 OVA's of me rooting for them that ending is just not acceptable i want my MisakixHei together. |
Zango said: And to explain the male Yin, the evil side of Yin could have forced Shion to make a copy of her since, she basically knew that Hei was going to kill her along with the nice Yin. Or Shion did it willingly, for whatever reason. And the defect of the copy was that it was a boy copy. I think I can see that happening. It could be the deal dying Shion mentioned. Copy of evil Yin in exchange for new future for his sister. |
| Well kinda weak end and also WTF! lol 7/10 for me and season 1 was better in regard the story and pace. anyway this totally calls for another season I wanna see what the hell was that Yin at the end (looked kinda tomboyish) will I ever have a Yin x Hei?? or was she meant to die T_T |
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| Suou X Hei moment at the ending was cute.. I didn't see any malice it's like a brother and sisterly love so genuine and true and poor Misaki didn't have the chance to have a moment with Hei but I'm still cheering for her ^^ and I'm really craving for Yin X Hei moment >_< so looking forward to S3 gotta watch Darker than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha Gaiden now ~ |
| Hei got his powers back and what happened? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Thanks for Muffin447 and Zango's analysis! |
| WOOOOOOOOW Really??? Why must the ending be such crap? It reminded me of soul eater XD It felt like there was just too much actition/information squeeeeeezed into 1 episode |
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Kyfas said: First of all, despite most saying otherwise, i actually liked the 2nd season more than the 1st. This is because Hei was too absent from the 1st on for my taste. There was a LOT of episodes in with some minor characters (like that idiot detective) were the main characters, and Hei would only appear for a few seconds to kill somebody. Also Hei had more character developing in the ovas and 2nd season. Honestly, I agree with this. I mean overall I enjoy the 1st season better but the characters felt a lot less static in the OVAs+S2. It was really ironic how the most unique thing about Hei was that he one of the few characters in the series with emotions, yet he still was among the most plain of the cast. Aside from shallow glimpses of his kindness and the apparent sister complex he had nothing going for him. The OVAs showed his caring side and how even he could love someone. Then we got the end of the OVA series S2 which showed us that Hei gets depressed and bitter or even disgustingly ruthless at times. Now he really does seem like a contractor with all the qualities of a human. Both the good and bad ones. A lot of people don't like "hobo" portrayal of Hei but it really just added another (much needed) layer to his character. Seeing him downing alcohol like that actually made his mood apparent for once. As for the ending, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. Things happened way too fast. Definitely needed to be a 24 ep or even a 15 ep season. It seems like July and Suou died, but I wouldn't really say that's happened literally. Shion did say he set all of it up for her, so I doubt he was trying to led her to her end like that. This could just be my wishful fanboy thinking side that adores Suou and doesn't want to call her "dead", but I'm thinking that her "soul" just (or whatever technical term the show will use for it) left her body to live in that alternate "happy" world that Shion created, and the empty shell. It was mentioned at the end that july was with her too, so it makes me wonder exactly what was the criteria for getting sent there. Maybe all contractors and dolls who got their souls sucked out izanami ended up there? No clue. Then there's that male Yin who I want to say has to do with Shion's cloning...it's all a giant brain teaser. The only thing I can say that I certainly liked about the ending is that It makes me sure that we'll get another season. ^^ |
Zango said: While the ending was a bit confusing, after sleeping on it, I've kinda worked it out in my head. This is my opinion on the matter. Careful, spoiler alerts. As stated before in the series, the Gate is where dreams come true, with a price. Shion was not Izanagi, he was simply a contractor that needed Izanami's and the Gate's power to see his dream come true. The new Earth, where his sister could live happily. The price of the wish was his life. If I recall correctly, it was said once in the first season that Pai, or whatever Hei's sister's name was, was indeed Izanagi. And since her powers or soul, are locked inside of Hei, that would make him Izanagi. But, instead of things going like the Mikata documents said they would, Yin allowed Hei to kill her. On a side note, I think he was finally able to bring himself to kill her because Suou basically slowly died in his arms because of Yin. And to explain the male Yin, the evil side of Yin could have forced Shion to make a copy of her since, she basically knew that Hei was going to kill her along with the nice Yin. Or Shion did it willingly, for whatever reason. And the defect of the copy was that it was a boy copy. And my thoughts pertaining to the part where Hei is walking with a presumably dead Yin: He could be walking her to the new world that was created. That is what I see to be most logical but, I would prefer that he was just taking her to her final resting place, at one of the stars, and he himself would then move on to the new Earth. This is because I was a sucker for SuouxHei, haha. In my mind Suou made the second season enjoyable and bearable to watch, mostly because I was rooting for her the whole series..... just to see her die slowly at the end [Insert sad face]. Now, don't get me wrong, their age difference is pretty large but, I mean look at the world they are living in, it is all fucked up to hell anyway. If being with a guy that is possibly 10 years older than her, why not? If it will make her happy then go for it. Not like much else in their world was going to bring any joy. this is what someone said after watching the OVA (chronologically thats last) thse might be spoilers if you didnt watch the OVA yet Sinamon said: Here's my take on the end of season 2 (in light of the OVA's) with regards to Hei and Yin (don't read if you hate SPOILERS!!) 1.) Yin's alter/supra ego is Izanami 2.) Shion's alter/supra ego is Izanagi 3.) Izanami, mythologically speaking, is like the god/being of destruction. As we have seen, all Izanami pretty much does is kill or cause chaos (many bodies in her wake) 4.) Izanagi, mythologically speaking, is like the god/being of creation. As we have seen, Shion is able to create copies of people as well as a new earth (!!!) 5.) The two must meld together and become one again (for some greater purpose/fulfillment of prophesy. Maybe they were whole at one point in time and the appearance of The Gate was a result of the sundering of the two halves (this has been a huge theme in literature and film i.e. The Dark Crystal). 6.) Hei has always said, regardless of the prophesy and other some such, that his goal was to kill Izanami...he never said he was going to kill Yin. He wants to destroy that which separated him from Yin. When he says that he's going to kill her, HER is in quotes ("her"). 7.) As Izanami draws Izanagi's and July's souls to her, Yin extends herself as a last ditch effort and appears and appeals to Hei to kill her because it's not too late. Though she was not able to keep the awakening from happening like she did initially, she manages to send herself out one last time to Hei 8.) Misaki sees Hei's star shine exponentially brighter in the night sky than ever before. His powers and that of his sister have returned in full force (and then some) and he has taken the meteor shard (either still in pieces from when Izanami broke Shuou's pendant or it formed into a whole piece again after the fact like it did in season one when amber had broken it into pieces but it went back to being whole) to destroy Izunami via Yin's last ditch attempt to save this crazy world. 9.) Hei changes Izanami on a molecular level via Yin’s projection thus preventing the Iza/Iza binding. 10.) Soon after, we hear that another Gate has appeared (the twins call it out) because the actual completion of Izanami and Izanagi was prevented by Hei and Yin. 11.) Thus resulting in the boy we see in the fields. He looks like a boy version of Yin. He is now the new yet incomplete Izanami incarnate signified by the arrival of a new Gate as Yin proper has split from that entity completely and there is no consciousness to hold anything back now. So this kid wakes up and just starts consuming as soon as his eyes open. 12.) During the molecular change, as noted above, Yin and Izanami disconnected as beings totally. Yin was never a shell that remained in that box though that’s what everyone thought. Izanami had just seemingly taken over her wholesale and their entities were tightly intertwined but Yin boldly asserted herself at the last moment to Hei. Once the disconnect occurred, the remnants of Yin returned to her body. 13.) Yin's wish is to be with Hei (she has said this a few times in the OVA's), not for Hei to kill her. In the end, she counted on Hei to know the right time and do what was needed so she didn't need to wish for that. Hei knew what he had to do so she didn't have to waste her wish. Her knowing smile and his knowing smile at the end complimented each other. 14.) Hei is seen carrying Yin’s naked body off. This is clearly the Yin from the box in the room, not Yin that showed herself to Hei moments before. Hei went back to the bldg after the change, disconnected Yin from the tubes and carried her off with him, at last alone together. At some point later, Yin regains consciousness and though it takes a long time, she slowly but surely returns to herself. 15.) Amber, who has seen and knows the future, knows the budding relationship between Hei and Yin (episode 16) so she entrusts Yin to watch over Hei. I doubt she would tell Yin this if Yin was going to die. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!!! They live and are happy together eventually!!!!! Waaaaah!!! well the ending seems a bit too rushed and cliche, but i think they may deserve it. i know i enjoyed this series for sure. |
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| Has a 3rd season been confirmed? |
| Completed. Wish the ending of this story was diffrent. It just seemed like they were in a hurry to finish it and took an easy way out, 7/10 (3/5 this ep) |
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Drazard said: What is this... I don't even... What happened... I'll just assume "happily ever after" and everyone that died is alive now. xDDD :P xD Well actually what happened was izanami(other yin) and izanagi(idk who he is supposed to be) merge and have their son, who in japanese mythology is supposed to bring about the end of the world. That's the kid you saw at the end. Anyways from what I believe, hei gained his powers back and used them to seperate Yin from her alter ego. The ending left a lot of loose ends. The story is supposed to follow japanese mythology but season two doesn't finish the story. And I assume you understood that suo was sent over to shion's "alternate world", along with july. I still don't really understand the part that plays in the story but in the other world suo hints at knowing hei. Even though there are currently no plans for a third season, there needs to be. The ending of season 2 just left a bunch more loose ends and confused mostly everyone. Welcome to the majority of DTB fans lol. Hope that cleared a little up for you! |
| Have watched this for the second time around (and after watching the OVA too) and it makes a lot more sense. It's just one of those series where every bit of dialogue is important and if you blink you miss something that they never bother repeating. And then it's like a jigsaw puzzle at the end were you have to put it all together. I've really liked the character designs, music and atmosphere of all DtB. I do hope they do a 3rd series. I'd love if it were a prequel that could then help us fill in the gaps. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Ok, this season was not so good as the first but it was still interesting!! As for the end, if I hadn't see the Gaiden first, then I would be like ''WT*'', more than now.There are things that we need to learn for the ending since, the last scenes were rashed and we don't now who is Izanagi, what will happen with the kid in the coffin who killed the others, and If Hei kill Yin or no, and of course the last scene with Hei and Yin in his arms!!! I have many theories about what happened, but I want a season 3 or something else to give us the truth about it!! Still for me it was good, and I really hope for a continue to this great anime.. 8/10 |
| Awesome series, but...What the hell happened? I'm going to have to resort to Wiki for this one... |
| I'm not even going to attempt to question this.... |
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| What a strange ending. I hope there's an S3. I think this season could have been a lot better if they made a full 24 episodes and focused more on Hei as a protagonist. 7/10 (I gave s1 9/10) |
| "We're nothing more than fools and whores with sad highs" |
| Well this series was pretty confusing, and in hindsight the story/plot was pretty stupid. I hate the idea of a "fake" world where some people live in an alternate reality. Makes everything seem pointless. The best part was the development of Suo, Mao, and July. Suo was annoying at first but grew on me after a bit, and she does have a badass sniper rifle. Mao was cool and we finally learned some backstory on his history. But where this season really shined was on the development of July. July grows attached to Suo over time, with his wish to be with her, and then his "smile" at the beginning of the season compared to his smile at the end of the series, really touching. And then episode 7 where Suo rescues July, and July "shows" emotion indirectly, such as pain and fear. The kid hardly talks at all, yet has the best development in the season. July was awesome. Unfortunately Hei and Yin kind of sucked this season. Shame. EDIT: The gaiden cleared up some of the questions. Makes this season better now that I know most of wtf was going on. Not as good as the first season, but still good. 7/10 |
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| Hei never sucks. And even when Hei sucks he doesn't. |
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| WTF ending This serie needs another season 9/10 |
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| Damn I watched Gaiden before this and was all desperate to see Yin becoming happy at last... I want to believe, like Kirihara, that Hei is alive, somewhere with Yin. |
| I finished the series yesterday and hell, I seriously don't know what to say. I mean, I'd already read the reviews about ryuusei no gemini before I started it, so my expectations weren't so high to be honest. I couldn't care less about Suou, that's it. I seriously think that they should have included more scenes involving Hei, and of course, he's look in the beginning and the power-losing thing didn't help me like the series more. I was so very looking forward to a Hei-Kirihara conversation. At least, I wanted more scenes. As some of you have already mentioned, the ending seemed pretty rushed. Also, why 12 episodes? I mean, they really could have made more out of it, couldn't they? Yeah, they gave us the OVA too (btw, I saw these because RNG), but still...The ending of the first season was far more acceptable than these one. Anyway, there's also the fact that Hei seems different. I don't know whether this is because Li-kun no longer exists (in the first season, it was pretty cool to see his double life and how he could be so kind and innocent and after act like a contractor), and that leaved him with only his Contractor side. In addition, losing Yin did cause him some trauma, I guess, and made him more determined and cold-hearted when it came to achieving his aims. Anyway, I'd really, really like a season 3, but am pretty sure there will be none. I was thinking about reading the manga. They say that the second manga (shikkoku no hana, I think it's called) is different from the anime's second season. Can anyone tell me whether it will be more satisfying? |
| Ok so overall I'd say I enjoyed this more than series 1 or at least found it a lot easier to get into. However that ending has kinda pissed me off, sucked big time. Either a 8 or a 9 not sure yet. Next Gaiden...I don't have high expectations to be honest but there'll be more Yin which I look forward too. |
fanhillary said: I LOVED THIS SEASON~ but the ending.... I didn't get it.. D: All I got was... Shion made a new world using his "copying powers". Suou and July now live a happy life in that new world, although Suou doesn't remember Hei. TTATT. Back in the original world, Hei and Yin are wandering around aimlessly and Misaki hasn't heard of him for a while.... I don't understand why there are two Yins and why her hair was cut One of the Yins (The one in black) is Izanami, like a god or something, the OVAs clear that out. Shions wish was that Suou lived happily in the new world he created, so he made a deal with Izanami and she granted his wish. Suou was already dead, so it looks like the only way she could live normaly without carrying around that pendant was in the other world. She feels like something is missing, but it looks like she eventually will meet Hei and July (She was looking at Hei's star) I loved the character of Suou and I would have liked another ending, but that's how things are. The kid in the coffin is the "son" of Izanami and Izanagi, not sure if Izanagi is either Shion or Hei. I guess we'll have to wait until october to Season 3 to clear that. I can just hope that Suou appears in this new season. This was a great season although I think Hei should have had more attention than he did, but he still is awesome and kicks ass xD. |
| I really think this should have been another 24 episode season instead of the 12/16(counting gaiden). The ending was really rushed and although a lot of the stuff is cliched and should be obvious, it still doesn't explain a lot of things. I understand the new world being made and Shion wishing for Suou to be dumped in the new world, the godchild eventually bringing the apocalypse, and Misaki and those peeps forming the new "syndicate" but what the hell happened to Hei? He's just walking around with a husk? Carrying a dead body around? I love the premise of this whole entire series but some of the crap that happened is pretty nonsensical. |
| The chip in my mind, it summons me. I gave my life to your machines. |
| The ending wasnt really that good :( |
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LeaT said: Anyway, I primarily joined these forums to rant about how sorely disappointed I was over the series. Someone already posted that season 2 lacked everything which made season 1 great, which is primarily the noir feeling, and I totally agree... I didn't want to put the rest of this entire post here, but I totally agree with this. Is it me or did this season feel more like a fanfiction? Insert a new character who's a young female as the protagonist, has creepy shippy subtext with the main character of the last season who has a personality makeover into an asshole, journeys with a character brought back from the dead with little explanation, etc.... And speaking of Hei and Mao, I have to agree with others at how I didn't really like how they handled some of the existing characters. Hobo Hei did show us a more vulnerable Hei but I just didn't like how he was regulated to a supporting character most of the time, because it was really supposed to be Suou's story. I did like Suou, but I wasn't as invested in her character tbh. And Mao turned out to be there for just comic relief; I mean, yeah, he did have those moments in the first season but he was more of a well-rounded character. Can't say much on Yin since she didn't appear much, but I enjoyed her development in Gaiden as well as July's development in this season, which was probably one of its highlights. His growing emotions and attachments were so adorable! And I might be in the minority about this, but I actually really loved Section 3 and I wanted to see more from them. They did kind of stayed flat, but I did like what we did see-Yoko as a cheerful and innocent girl who does have a bit of a mad scientist side to her, Genma as this nonchalant pervert who nonetheless is more brutal and sinister than he seems, and Mina, who is as curt and cold as most Contractors are but showed a degree of protectiveness despite that, and interestingly enough served as an antagonistic counterpart to Hei. And well, I felt like they could have done more with Misaki but that was one of my feelings about the first season as well. If only they were all fleshed out more! I thought they were fun to watch anyways. But yeah, this ending. It was really confusing at first, but it's not incomprehensible, just vague? Maybe it's just me, but it seemed to stretch limits even for its own universe. Shion created an entire copy of the earth? Oh um. Okay! Additionally, I'm still left with more questions than answers, and it's still very open-ended. I usually wouldn't have a problem with that, but there are some questions from last season that I still haven't gotten any more clues to figure out! Anyways. Despite my ranting and my rating of this season, I still found it very enjoyable to watch. The action and the audio are still top notch and...well, it's Darker Than Black. I'm not really one of those fans who ask for more. The way I see it, why mess with a good thing? But if a third season can bring back the feel of the first as well as give us more hints about this universe, I'm all for it. |
| I'm glad I knew that the second season was controversial, otherwise it would have been a huge disappointment, but this way I managed to enjoy the good bits. A very rushed and open ended finale, I didn't like it too much, though I'm glad Suou got her happy end 3/5. 6/10 for it as a whole, not as good as the first season, but still a decent watch. |
| I was actually enjoying this season quite a bit, but this ending totally ruined my feeling for the show. Sigh. |
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| Not as bad as people made it out to be but that ending was pretty bad, season 3 when. |
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