One Piece Chapter 809 Discussion

alter00 said:
Dat color page, they are so fucking cool. :D Best color page ever.
1 billion is just too much for Jack if we consider his power, but I think his cruelty take that much bounty, but for now he is so weak for 1 billion and for Kiado's right-hand man. Anyways, we will see.

LitzSabr said:


Jack being kaido's right hand man was apparently a mistranslation because in the viz, he has been caleed one of kaido's top 3 guys but we're not sure if he's the right hand man or not.

Drake1000 said:
Yeah of course he dozes off when he's about to tell us something interesting, great.
1 Billion Berry right hand mad man of Kaido and one of the "3 calamities" is ridiculed by a cat and a dog. Are you fucking kidding me Oda? show Jack some love and don't turn him into a joke, start throwing some actual feats.

Sasaki-Ken said:

Luffy is a beast here in this cover.
Robin looking sexy as always

G_Spark233 said:
Really nice colour page.

One billion? Holy shit!

Isterio said:


This can be bait, I doubt it, it can be that the soldier just exxagerated.
Also we clearly know bounty isn´t based on powerlevels.
He´s shown to be a major asshole so he probably earned it the same way kid did.

ichii_1 said:
LOL jack's bounty is obviously inflated XD
Just like kidd's bounty was high cause he killed everyone, so is jack's.
He also went human form at the end, but we can't tell if he's awakened or not if he or someone else doesn't tell us cause a zoan's awakening doesn't affect the surroundings :(

Break next week :'(

Isterio said:


This can be bait, I doubt it, it can be that the soldier just exxagerated.
Also we clearly know bounty isn´t based on powerlevels.
He´s shown to be a major asshole so he probably earned it the same way kid did.

ashfrliebert said:
That's the point. Luffy beats people double his bounty all the time(Crocodile), it's not necessarily a power level indicator, it's a danger indicator. And Jack is known to destroy things, so it's fitting. That's why Kidd goes his bounty.

I'd say it's mostly used beyond just saying that he's dangerous and destroys things and that's he's just really strong, but it's double Ace's(also commander of Yonko and even moreso son of really famous pirate) so it kinda seems disproportionate lol. But it make sense if it wasn't inflated(when was a bounty ever), but it's probably pointless to use it as a power indicator.

Sasaki-Ken said:
but we havent seen Jack do anything yet. You speculate too early. Next chapter lets see what he can do

ziggy_Z said:
1.) I bet the farm the reason the Dukes hate each other is 'cause one's a Shanks fan while the other is a Mihawk fan. The real hatred began when Shanks lost his arm.

2.) Who the fuck is the WG expecting to go after billion berri bounties? The notorious bounty hunters in the Colosseum were scrubs. The only ones who'd stand a chance are top tier Marines and Yonko subordinates, and I'm pretty sure they're not even allowed to attack a Yonko's right hand. That's just absurd.

HalibelTheEspada said:
That's pretty funny with the reason for their feud, though I don't think that's it.

Good point on the bounties thing. But I'm sure they realize there aren't many who could do it alone, but that's where things like alliances come in hand; such as Kidd, Hawkins, and Apoo's alliance... not to mention I'm sure for most people that might take them on, it still works out in their favor if they fail.

Also, what do you mean by they aren't allowed to attack a Yonkou's right hand?

ziggy_Z said:
Do pirates even get paid the bounty? Highly doubt it. So sure a pirate alliance can do it, but... they get trolled since there's no way the Marines would pay them.

What I mean is that if they attack a Yonko's top dog, then that's pretty much a set-up for war with said Emperor. I don't mean that they're prohibited from going after one of them, just it's ill-advised.

alter00 said:
Dat color page, they are so fucking cool. :D Best color page ever.
1 billion is just too much for Jack if we consider his power, but I think his cruelty take that much bounty, but for now he is so weak for 1 billion and for Kiado's right-hand man. Anyways, we will see.

Isterio said:
This arc has the potential to be pure awesomeness, there is so much going on I just hope it doesnt go the Shitrosa route where so much stuff was set up and took forever to conclude in an underwhelming manner.

Oda has us by the balls and he knows this but he´s the king of trolling.

There is some hints how strong the minks are and it makes alot of more sense, if they were befriending Shanks they may actually be on the level of his subordinates.

Really unsure how to feel about the bounty reveal. I doubt it´s bait, however bounties were always an indicator on powerlevels and one Billion is off the charts, that´s like sick. Just hoping that Jack gives us the satisfaction Pica never managed to show us.

Hiroyuuki said:


People seem to forget that he was able to sink multiple war ships while he attacked a fleet with an Admiral and a damn ex Fleet Admiral (and that old woman on top of it). Just because those 2 dukes can stand their own against Jack doesn't mean Jack is weak.. What makes you think those dukes are weak?? they even sailed the seas during Shanks's early days it seems.

It's the other way around ppl, Jack's crew ain't weak, it's the Minks that are freaking strong. You all are just too focussed on the classic Oda story where the town/island's people are always weak like fodder. This time they ain't weak, just get used to that.

For the bounty, euhm... he is Jack.. Protected by a yonkou in the 1st place (that alone increases your bounty i bet), on top of that, we know bounties don't increase easily above... 300m was it? How did it increase so much? Because he just destroys for fun and doesn't care who he faces, he'll attack it like a wild beast, which makes him a dangerous man. Above 300m, we can't just assume that a huge gap between the 2 bounty holders means that the bigger bounty holder is stronger. It mostly reffers to their threat to the people and WG. For example: Ace had a 550m bounty. Knowing this, I wouldn't be surpriced to see Shanks his top men only having a bounty under Jack's bounty (as we can all assume that the Red-Hair Pirates are no savages and only a threat to the WG, not to innocent ppl).

So don't be too surpriced that Shanks his bounty will probably be lower than Kaido's bounty, just because of the way they are alone already.

Drake1000 said:
Yeah of course he dozes off when he's about to tell us something interesting, great.
1 Billion Berry right hand mad man of Kaido and one of the "3 calamities" is ridiculed by a cat and a dog. Are you fucking kidding me Oda? show Jack some love and don't turn him into a joke, start throwing some actual feats.
So far we've seen nothing but jobbing from this man.

Hiroyuuki said:


People seem to forget that he was able to sink multiple war ships while he attacked a fleet with an Admiral and a damn ex Fleet Admiral (and that old woman on top of it). Just because those 2 dukes can stand their own against Jack doesn't mean Jack is weak.. What makes you think those dukes are weak?? they even sailed the seas during Shanks's early days it seems.

It's the other way around ppl, Jack's crew ain't weak, it's the Minks that are freaking strong. You all are just too focussed on the classic Oda story where the town/island's people are always weak like fodder. This time they ain't weak, just get used to that.

For the bounty, euhm... he is Jack.. Protected by a yonkou in the 1st place (that alone increases your bounty i bet), on top of that, we know bounties don't increase easily above... 300m was it? How did it increase so much? Because he just destroys for fun and doesn't care who he faces, he'll attack it like a wild beast, which makes him a dangerous man. Above 300m, we can't just assume that a huge gap between the 2 bounty holders means that the bigger bounty holder is stronger. It mostly reffers to their threat to the people and WG. For example: Ace had a 550m bounty. Knowing this, I wouldn't be surpriced to see Shanks his top men only having a bounty under Jack's bounty (as we can all assume that the Red-Hair Pirates are no savages and only a threat to the WG, not to innocent ppl).

So don't be too surpriced that Shanks his bounty will probably be lower than Kaido's bounty, just because of the way they are alone already.

The10tailedwolf said:
He then leaves to capture Doflamingo, after news reaches of Doflamingo's defeat at the hands of SH --> which means no more Smiles for Kaido's men, which doffy must answer for. And I wouldn't be surprised if Jack already has doffy in his custody by now... the guy saw 4 navy admiral warships, and didn't bat an eye, didn't even give it a second thought...

THE THREAT IS REAL

ichii_1 said:
I hope they show's jack aka axe hand morgan's face next chapter XD
Jack might be undercover for doflamingo in kaido's crew, they calls doffy "lord" and jack fits with doffy's card theme.