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Why does society condemn change and try to make people follow the status quo?

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Nov 22, 2015 7:39 AM

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It seems that no matter what the day and age is society seems to enjoy a controlled growth, one without the idea of change or revolution, rather new views are often shut out until they can no longer be contained and overflow, similiar to the scientific advancements of the 16th century or perhaps the views that all men are equal duting the enlightenment.
Lately there seems to be an encouragement of new views (Lgbt, black rights, unity amongst nations) but it is also apperant objections to these ideals are as well often shut out quite ironically.

Is it political or part of the human collective that wishes for stability?

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Nov 22, 2015 7:43 AM
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because people are dishonest and want to be diplomatic at the same time.
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Nov 22, 2015 7:45 AM

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No new idea can purely be for the 'good' for a particular society. These 'new ideas' need to be filtered for the best interest of the people and this 'opposition' does exactly that - on the macro-level. However, I do agree that sometimes the orthodox resort to persecution of the unorthodox due to their fear of change and that's wrong. Society will always oppose new ideas and it is justified in doing so. But, if you think that your new idea can bring positive change in the system, then follow the system all up to the point where you've the authority to introduce your ideas with minimal opposition. Forcing your way through can be rough and history's evident that that never works.
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Nov 22, 2015 7:48 AM

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@Genio that last line of yours kinda bugs me, I feel there are plenty of examples where a revolution was the only method to which new ideas could and would have been introduced.
E.g if the French Revolution had never occured then would the world still be largely imperialistic?
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Nov 22, 2015 8:07 AM

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How can a society exists without norms?

Every society has norms. That's what defines it. It's how society functions - because we have a set of norms and we can somehow predict people's actions.

The problem is, morality isn't exactly the norm. We're more tolerant of assholes than of weirdos. There's your problem right there.
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Nov 22, 2015 8:17 AM

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People on top don't like change, because they may not hold onto the same kind of power they had with changes that they didn't chose themselves.
 
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Nov 22, 2015 8:20 AM

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Rocking the boat makes waves.

Human waves tend to get cut down by machinegun fire.

And inspite of claims War doesn't make wealth, it simply transfers it from one party to another.

So Stability on the one hand.

On the other just human nature.

If you invest in something, serve something, make a living or money off of something, you become set in your ways as you get older, and a fresh young face, with fresh ideas is a direct threat to you and yours.
 
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Nov 22, 2015 8:22 AM

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Because the status quo they set is made for the "betterment" of society.
 
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Nov 22, 2015 8:45 AM

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TheConquerer said:
@Genio that last line of yours kinda bugs me, I feel there are plenty of examples where a revolution was the only method to which new ideas could and would have been introduced.
E.g if the French Revolution had never occured then would the world still be largely imperialistic?


A revolution is one thing, a rebellion is another. A revolution is when you have an overwhelming majority on your part. A rebellion is when you're just a minority forcing your way through. For revolution to be successful, condition is to have so many people on your disposal that no one would be left to oppose you after you assume authority. In a rebellion, that is never the case. Even if a rebellion turns out to be successful, there would still be enough people left to oppose you after you come to the throne.

RedArmyShogun said:
Rocking the boat makes waves.

Human waves tend to get cut down by machinegun fire.

And inspite of claims War doesn't make wealth, it simply transfers it from one party to another.

So Stability on the one hand.

On the other just human nature.

If you invest in something, serve something, make a living or money off of something, you become set in your ways as you get older, and a fresh young face, with fresh ideas is a direct threat to you and yours.


Beautiful.
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By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!''
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Nov 22, 2015 9:12 AM

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RedArmyShogun said:
Rocking the boat makes waves.

Human waves tend to get cut down by machinegun fire.

And inspite of claims War doesn't make wealth, it simply transfers it from one party to another.

So Stability on the one hand.

On the other just human nature.

If you invest in something, serve something, make a living or money off of something, you become set in your ways as you get older, and a fresh young face, with fresh ideas is a direct threat to you and yours.
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Nov 22, 2015 9:13 AM
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Nov 22, 2015 9:17 AM

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@Genio ah I think I see, rebellions are almost like an opposite of revolutions in a sense, stability is upset for an unstable view where a revolution usually projects forward a new form of thought and sense.

@Redarmy, that is some thing to think about, very interesting.
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Nov 22, 2015 9:19 AM

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Status quo = profit for the people at the top

Changing the status quo = threatening their lifestyle. Hence change is always condemned.
 
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