| I understand if someone is an Atheist and defends their views or argues with a religious person when in discussion and I get the idea of wanting religion to leave them alone but why do some go looking for the religious just to spout either mockery or hate. It makes no sense with the leave me alone attitude. Ive seen people on sites and in religious gathering and even online say reviews for the Quran or bible on amazon where people just post mocking things entirely useless for the review itself. Or they'll go to sites for religious types and troll. Or shout things when they see say like a bible group or something. Then you also have those Anti Christian shootings two that I can recall recently with that college n church shootings. Basically if you really want to be left alone to live your way why don't you offer the same thing. Or better yet even if you disagree with something don't seek it out just to be a dick. |
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| Religious people do the same thing. It is not exclusive to athiests. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find someone from some group that doesn't troll the opposition. Singling out Athiests makes you look intellectually dishonest. |
Wensbane said: ^ Also it might partially be along the lines of feeling progressive or superior. "Lol, you believe in a genie in the sky? Go back to the 12th century."I assume it's because you are such easy targets. Nothing simpler than "triggering" a religious person. |
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PoeticJustice said: ^Religious people do the same thing. It is not exclusive to athiests. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find someone from some group that doesn't troll the opposition. Singling out Athiests makes you look intellectually dishonest. |
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| That's human instinct. Demonizing your opponents is a good way to get the 'stupid' people in your lobby. Goes for both religious and the non-religious people. My concern with all this is that when people try to, somehow, prove that X religion is violent or whatnot. Now, I understand if their intentions are solely theological - but they're not. They're 'political'. People somehow try to prove their political inclinations by distorting theology for their benefits as if one has to play ANY role in the other's existence. Take this new age schtick of 'criticizing Islam' that Islam is violent or has violent passages that incites the terrorist. For fuck's fucking sake, those violent passages were there since the day Quran was compiled, no terrorist was born then. How fucking blind do you have to be to not notice? Fuck ignorance. |
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PoeticJustice said: Religious people do the same thing. It is not exclusive to athiests. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find someone from some group that doesn't troll the opposition. Singling out Athiests makes you look intellectually dishonest. Nothing dishonest about it. If someone wishes to focus on the other half of it they're free to make a thread. however seen as we here on mal have discussed at great length the "failings of religion" seen as mocking religion threads seem to be the norm, that it would actually be more in line with originality to see from the other side for a change. This thread is specifically about Atheists that target the religious. That half was the focus today. If I wished to discuss a football team for example im not under obligation to mention and talk about all of them if I wish to focus on a specific one. We know why the religious might target none believers for conversion or to denounce them as sinners. I want to know why those in the Atheist community which is basically just lacking a religious belief seek out the believers to combat. Unlike the religious that haggle you they seem to have no real goal yet can commit acts of even violence for it. If everyone just wants religion to leave them alone why bother seeking it out at all. Why do some lunatics shoot up colleges targeting Christians, why does not believing in a religion make people actually angry at those who think differently. What triggers such opposition even those who have never been annoyed or approached by a preacher seem to want to be aggressive or confrontational against anything religious. I'm sure we have all seen it at one point or done it. |
SpooksNov 20, 2015 11:27 AM
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Pacifica_Ocean said: Nothing dishonest about it. If someone wishes to focus on the other half of it they're free to make a thread. however seen as we here on mal have discussed at great length the "failings of religion" seen as mocking religion threads seem to be the norm, that it would actually be more in line with originality to see from the other side for a change. This thread is specifically about Atheists that target the religious. That half was the focus today. If I wished to discuss a football team for example im not under obligation to mention and talk about all of them if I wish to focus on a specific one. We know why the religious might target none believers for conversion or to denounce them as sinners. I want to know why those in the Atheist community which is basically just lacking a religious belief seek out the believers to combat. Unlike the religious that haggle you they seem to have no real goal yet can commit acts of even violence for it. If everyone just wants religion to leave them alone why bother seeking it out at all. Why do some lunatics shoot up colleges targeting Christians, why does not believing in a religion make people actually angry at those who think differently. What triggers such opposition even those who have never been annoyed or approached by a preacher seem to want to be aggressive or confrontational against anything religious. I'm sure we have all seen it at one point or done it. Sometimes people want validation for their ideological beliefs so they take out on others. Others have had bad experiences with Christians/Muslims/Jews, so they aim their frustration on the forums etc. There are a multitude of reasons as to why, but you would have to look on an individual basis. |
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PoeticJustice said: Sometimes people want validation for their ideological beliefs so they take out on others. Others have had bad experiences with Christians/Muslims/Jews, so they aim their frustration on the forums etc. There are a multitude of reasons as to why, but you would have to look on an individual basis. And yet it also seems to have a collective power. As if Atheism is a religion in on itself and therefor conflictive with other religions. That would be whats is required to make the whole thing make sense. It seems very much the same as two incompatible religions taking shots. Its not enough to live and let live the opposing ideology has to be cancelled out. I know what its like raised an atheist I took part myself, mocking the religious and yet I can't remember totally why or my reasoning. All I know is that simply been an atheist gave me cause to mock the religious. Now I cringe just like why? why bother others because of it. Makes no sense to me now. |
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Pacifica_Ocean said: PoeticJustice said: Sometimes people want validation for their ideological beliefs so they take out on others. Others have had bad experiences with Christians/Muslims/Jews, so they aim their frustration on the forums etc. There are a multitude of reasons as to why, but you would have to look on an individual basis. And yet it also seems to have a collective power. As if Atheism is a religion in on itself and therefor conflictive with other religions. That would be whats is required to make the whole thing make sense. It seems very much the same as two incompatible religions taking shots. Its not enough to live and let live the opposing ideology has to be cancelled out. I know what its like raised an atheist I took part myself, mocking the religious and yet I can't remember totally why or my reasoning. All I know is that simply been an atheist gave me cause to mock the religious. Now I cringe just like why? why bother others because of it. Makes no sense to me now. You matured and you realized that there is no point to doing that. The hive mind mentality is dangerous because like you said, Athiests have gathered as a collective and have begun ostracizing religious people. But what they don't understand is, that they have become like religious people in the process. If religion is going to effect legislature, laws or treatment of certain people then you should be able to speak out. But making fun of them doesn't really do anything. |
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| I'd say this, and any mocking or offensive attitude in general, has to do with the general environment of cynicism and how easy is it to make yourself look like an asshole at the internet by increasing the volume of your speech a little. Then again, exceptions that take it further are everywhere but that's precisely the reason why this thread doesn't feel right, they can -and do- happen in any direction. PoeticJustice said: Religious people do the same thing. It is not exclusive to athiests. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find someone from some group that doesn't troll the opposition. Singling out Athiests makes you look intellectually dishonest. I'm agreeing too much with you today, please talk about School days or something :( |
jal90Nov 20, 2015 12:00 PM
| idk but it's pathetic |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Starchaser187 said: I guess you're referring to atheists on the internet. They're the ones that are insecure pricks. Most don't give a Shrek not just the internet in public as well im sure we've witnessed it sometime or other and now with the whole terrorist thing we're probably going to see a lot more er militant atheists out there. Just recently a Muslim woman was pushed against a moving train whilst waiting for it by some guy, she didn't have anything to do with the terrorists yet she had a lot of facial injuries to show for merely following her religion and been a certain race. i just wonder if the backlash against religion is going to spread to all religions leading to a new oppression movement of atheism. I doubt anyone wants it to reach a point where you can be open to abuse just for walking the street showing any kind of religious iconography but in many places walking with a Quran or a bible just invokes open season. |
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| I'm not going to pretend to know, but my theory is that they're insecure, and/or want to feel "right" or "superior" about something, so they choose a target, and decide to mock and berate them. This kind of behaviour isn't limited to atheists and religious people of course. |
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SnugglyWhuggly said: I'm not going to pretend to know, but my theory is that they're insecure, and/or want to feel "right" or "superior" about something, so they choose a target, and decide to mock and berate them. This kind of behaviour isn't limited to atheists and religious people of course. +1 |
| There are may good answers already, so I'll just add: "such is life." |
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| I think that a lot of these people are just insecure cretins that pride themselves on their 'forward-thinking' ways, and reject everything that doesn't align with their narrow-minded views. Maybe they're upset because their parents forced them to go to church when they were kids or something. I guess it's sort of rebellious, and it helps that there are plenty of other atheists that will pat their backs. It's important to be vocal about it, so that everyone can notice how superior they are. 'Muh rationality' in a nutshell. It's pretty moronic. I think it's fairly normal that people openly shun and criticize other ideas and perspectives that they don't share or agree with, which is sort of a defensive action, I suppose. It's also an immature and childish one. This isn't restricted to atheists, though. Lots of people do it to some degree or another, religious people included. Seeing things from multiple perspectives, and being mature about it, isn't something that comes natural to most people. |
MoogNov 20, 2015 3:15 PM
Griffith said: Brain washed people are easy targets. +19.3 |
| Religious people often do the same, and have the same sense of superiority, though I would imagine Atheists do it much more, or at least are more verbal about it. Regardless, people are always trying to "convert" the other person. This really does not just apply with religion either. |
PoeticJustice said: I've noticed militant atheism seems to be a growing trend. It's not enough to not believe, some of them congregate and start trying to jam the whole "nothing happens when you die" and "there is no god" thing down people's throats.Religious people do the same thing. It is not exclusive to athiests. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find someone from some group that doesn't troll the opposition. Singling out Athiests makes you look intellectually dishonest. |
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| cuz they got nothing better to do & just wannabe assholes. they are no better than the religious ppl who try to force their religion on others. |
| Says the same guy bashing an entire religion based on the actions of .0001% (or less) of those that follow that religion. I think the better question here is why can't the kettle see when it is calling the pot black? |
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| In a dictatorship the leader in power can have control over religious ruling of the land. In a democracy any religion in the majority has control over the whole. It is more difficult to attack the political beliefs people have when they have their religion constantly backing it up. So some people take to attacking the religion as a whole in attempt to end the political beliefs. That is not to say that all have a legitimate reason in doing such things. Some people just do it to inflate their own ego. I think in general people are more against the Evangelically religious who try to spread their religion than they are against those who are humble and quietly religious which gets more respect. |
| Atheists basically still adhere to all the bibles teachings, why do they do that if they don't believe in god and everything he stands for? fear. |
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ichii_1 said: Christians don't even adhere to many of the "bible's teachings". Going to have to call BS on that one.Atheists basically still adhere to all the bibles teachings, why do they do that if they don't believe in god and everything he stands for? fear. |
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Pirating_Ninja said: Says the same guy bashing an entire religion based on the actions of .0001% (or less) of those that follow that religion. I think the better question here is why can't the kettle see when it is calling the pot black? lol, I was thinking the same thing myself to be brutally honest when I saw who the OP was. |
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| The Bible adheres to Gilgamesh's teachings. Bow down. |
AltairiusNov 20, 2015 3:42 PM
| Because they get their kicks from offending people and the religious are generally the easiest to offend. |
ichii_1 said: Atheists basically still adhere to all the bibles teachings, why do they do that if they don't believe in god and everything he stands for? fear. Atheists have morals not because of the bible, and no, your statement is incorrect. |
Carto738 said: Because religion is for pussies who are too scared to die and want to believe there is something after death. The ammount of bullshit in that statement is too high well nothing to expect from an atheist. |
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| Militant atheists are just social rejects who wants to bash these educated religious people the problem is these militant atheists are united for a stupid cause; To make themselves superior. Religious people are divided bcoz of culture, and even the religious divisions itself. |
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| Atheism is connected to rationality and intelligence. Even if atheism is the most rational conclusion, you can still reach it via fallacious thinking. But feeling smart is fun, and mocking stupidity makes you feel smarter. Stupid people who cling to atheism to feel rational will do that. It's a way for them to feel smarter. A flat-earther can be more logical than a spherical-earther. Don't mock opposite views - challenge and address them. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Atheism is connected to rationality and intelligence. Even if atheism is the most rational conclusion. What are you basing that on? |
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geniobastardo said: TheBrainintheJar said: Atheism is connected to rationality and intelligence. Even if atheism is the most rational conclusion. What are you basing that on? Its kind of simple philosphy to not believe in something thats not observable, has no evidence of its existence, and is something impossible to prove. |
LionCake said: geniobastardo said: What are you basing that on? Its kind of simple philosphy to not believe in something thats not observable, has no evidence of its existence, and is something impossible to prove. That's an empiricist's approach, not a rationalist's. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Atheism is connected to rationality and intelligence. Even if atheism is the most rational conclusion, you can still reach it via fallacious thinking. But feeling smart is fun, and mocking stupidity makes you feel smarter. Stupid people who cling to atheism to feel rational will do that. It's a way for them to feel smarter. A flat-earther can be more logical than a spherical-earther. Don't mock opposite views - challenge and address them. I really like the way you put that, to me, having an opinion I agree with isnt whats really important. Its WHY you believe in something. WHY you have an opinion. |
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