| I've been thinking about it lately. Then suddenly this question pops-op on my mind... |
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| Define ghost and God. |
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| Ghosts aren't real lol Not sure about God though I mean something made the world right? |
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TKotarou said: Ghosts aren't real lol You can't prove that tho. |
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| The ghosts are God |
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| I don't believe in ghosts. I don't believe in God. There perhaps may be a god, but not God. Maybe an anime god. Lel... |
| Now I see the secret of the making of the best persons. It is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth. -Walt Whitman A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein |
Temoze said: have you seen any?TKotarou said: Ghosts aren't real lol You can't prove that tho. |
Temoze said: TKotarou said: Ghosts aren't real lol You can't prove that tho. Prove that they're real. |
| Who says ghosts are real? |
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TKotarou said: Temoze said: have you seen any?You can't prove that tho. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. |
| Now I see the secret of the making of the best persons. It is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth. -Walt Whitman A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein |
TKotarou said: Temoze said: have you seen any?You can't prove that tho. What makes you think that they should be in the specter of colors visible for human eye? Lazy said: Temoze said: You can't prove that tho. Prove that they're real. Did i claimed that they are real? Both of your responses are nonsensical, you just imply things. |
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DejWo said: Muslims originated from Africa so god is blackYes,and he is a muslim. |
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mochabearkawaii said: DejWo said: Muslims originated from Africa so god is blackYes,and he is a muslim. Theoretically we could imply that people originated in Africa, then imply that we all are black. |
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Temoze said: Lazy said: Prove that they're real. Did i claimed that they are real? Both of your responses are nonsensical, you just imply things. And you saying that it can't be proven wasn't an implication ? |
Temoze said: My niggamochabearkawaii said: Muslims originated from Africa so god is black Theoretically we could imply that people originated in Africa, then imply that we all are black. |
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| Ghosts will just be echo's left from the past of maybe residual spirit energy still with enough conscious to be able really simple awareness/communication but I doubt they're whole spirits more like left over energy with enough imprinted on it to seem intelligent. Or they're demons, obviously. |
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Lazy said: And you saying that it can't be proven wasn't an implication ? How is that implication? Do you know any method to in fact disprove ghost existence? It's a fact that this question is outside science, at least at this point of time, so we can't disprove it in any way. |
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| But ghosts are explicitly against the Bible. I'm bad with quotations but I remember it clearly says they're no such thing as apparitions on the earth. There is only heaven or hell for the dead. |
Pacifica_Ocean said: Ghosts will just be echo's left from the past of maybe residual spirit energy still with enough conscious to be able really simply awareness/communication. Or they're demons, obviously. I like the first part of your statement, tho you mistaken at second, Ghost is a spirit with origin from material life form, demon or to be more precise daemon is spirit with non material origin. |
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bombslayer said: But ghosts are explicitly against the Bible. I'm bad with quotations but I remember it clearly says they're no such thing as apparitions on the earth. There is only heaven or hell for the dead. Unless its just residual spirit energy or recordings in natural minerals. I doubt there's actually human spirits roaming because the world would be jam packed with ghosts. I think haunted locations are just natural recorders thanks to minerals or the landscape. Recording the past. Temoze said: I like the first part of your statement, tho you mistaken at second, Ghost is a spirit with origin from material life form, demon or to be more precise daemon is spirit with non material origin. I mean they're often mistaken for spirits. Some place can house or trap a demon which could trick unwary people by preying on their ideas of spirits to better draw in a host. Taking the form of children often calling out, is a common trick. |
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bombslayer said: But ghosts are explicitly against the Bible. I'm bad with quotations but I remember it clearly says they're no such thing as apparitions on the earth. There is only heaven or hell for the dead. Bible is metaphorical tho heaven and hell are states, also there are purgatory. We could say that it's in the same place as earth but in different dimension, than it's not in earth as we understand it. Also god doesn't imply Christian understatement of it. Pacifica_Ocean + As i see you have some knowledge of occult. Thanks for clearing up the meaning of your previous post. :) |
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| Damn op you a genius |
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| I've seen a Ghost before. He locked some pointless thread in MAL. |
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| God is real because if you don't choose to believe in God you'll be forced to. I'd rather choose, I think. |
CaelidesuNov 20, 2015 10:28 AM
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
Temoze said: bombslayer said: But ghosts are explicitly against the Bible. I'm bad with quotations but I remember it clearly says they're no such thing as apparitions on the earth. There is only heaven or hell for the dead. Bible is metaphorical tho heaven and hell are states, also there are purgatory. We could say that it's in the same place as earth but in different dimension, than it's not in earth as we understand it. From what I was taught, purgatory was never mentioned in Christianity. It's just another idea man inserts into religion. It even fails in a logical point of view. You already had enough chances in real life? Why would He give you another? |
| Ghosts are more likely than God, so not necessarily. |
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Usagi said: Ghosts are more likely than God, so not necessarily. Neither is more likely than the other - from a strictly empirical approach. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| No, God is not necessary for such things to exist. You're mind has been polluted by Abrahamic religions and not expanded beyond to other concepts. |
bombslayer said: What if your good and bad deeds matches each other then where you should be send? Tho i do not now whatever it's mentioned in Christianity, well to be more precise I'm not sure, it might be somewhere in Bible put out metaphorically or something. Tho it also might be as you say just to avoid the question i raised. I might look into it later today if i will have enough time. |
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geniobastardo said: Usagi said: Ghosts are more likely than God, so not necessarily. Neither is more likely than the other - from a strictly empirical approach. Wrong. The existence of God brings an incredible, if not infinite amount of complexity to empirical theories, since God is all-knowing, infinitely powerful, everywhere, all good, etc. It is bullshit. To say that ghosts exist, the most important thing you would have to do is reject the principle that only physical objects can interact with each other, and that the soul can interact with physical objects as well. http://www.iep.utm.edu/descmind/#H5 |
Temoze said: bombslayer said: What if your good and bad deeds matches each other then where you should be send? Tho i do not now whatever it's mentioned in Christianity, well to be more precise I'm not sure, it might be somewhere in Bible put out metaphorically or something. Tho it also might be as you say just to avoid the question i raised. I might look into it later today if i will have enough time. He doesn't count your sins. You don't even know the simple requirement for heaven is faith alone. |
| I personally don't believe that either are real. When we die we simply stop existing. There are some animals where a single life of their species is so insignificant that they have thousands of offspring in hopes that some will survive long enough to reproduce. If heaven is real then it would be filled with starving children from Africa, baby turtles, and arthropods. If we were to see ghosts then chances are they were be in one of those groups. There were also probably be a lot of Chinese and Indian ghosts. Ghosts are restricted to their home country (at least not in the lore I've read, not that it's "cannon" anyway), so we probably wouldn't see that many American ghosts. |
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Temoze said: Define ghost and God. Well, you see, Ghosts are spirits that are wandering somewhere and God is the maker of the Earth... Okay, um... Let me rephrase that. You see, some people don't believe in God because they are atheist. And I didn't read the bible (because it is a very thick book full of deep words and things like that) so I don't know if there's a history about that is related anything about the spirit wandering around. Also, as I watch movies or TV shows (especially "Ghost Hunters"), Ghosts' weakness are related to any Christian accessories such as the crucifix and the holy waters. So, when people hate religion, they also saying that God is not real so is demons and things like that. But, what if those who don't believe in God saw a wandering spirit passed by... Are they still believing in God now and it's religion? |
If God exists, then he should try extending my deadline right now! ~ Kobayashi, Kobayashi-san chi no Maid Dragon - Episode 12 |
ImTheJuggernaut said: If they saw a spirit wander past and they don't believe in spirits then they must be really high. If people already believe in something then they want it to exist so it is more likely for them to see it when it isn't actually there. If they don't believe in it then it takes a lot more for them to actually see it.Temoze said: Define ghost and God. Well, you see, Ghosts are spirits that are wandering somewhere and God is the maker of the Earth... Okay, um... Let me rephrase that. You see, some people don't believe in God because they are atheist. And I didn't read the bible (because it is a very thick book full of deep words and things like that) so I don't know if there's a history about that is related anything about the spirit wandering around. Also, as I watch movies or TV shows (especially "Ghost Hunters"), Ghosts' weakness are related to any Christian accessories such as the crucifix and the holy waters. So, when people hate religion, they also saying that God is not real so is demons and things like that. But, what if those who don't believe in God saw a wandering spirit passed by... Are they still believing in God now and it's religion? |
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bombslayer said: Temoze said: What if your good and bad deeds matches each other then where you should be send? Tho i do not now whatever it's mentioned in Christianity, well to be more precise I'm not sure, it might be somewhere in Bible put out metaphorically or something. Tho it also might be as you say just to avoid the question i raised. I might look into it later today if i will have enough time. He doesn't count your sins. You don't even know the simple requirement for heaven is faith alone. Yeah well when it says that even sinners only have to repent at the end to be accepted into heaven they don't just mean like a murderer can say he repents and boom into heaven. I think it doesn't me speak it but literally as a soul truly repent so even if you repent your sins at the end if your soul doesn't mean it you truly don't give yourself then it probably won't even work. God will know if those who have sinned really throughout everything that they are that they repent and accept faith truly entirely into themselves at the end. True acceptance of the otherside beyond life and higher power is common in quite a few things around the world. A lot of monks believed to truly ascend not just christian monks but Buddhist too that you had to be truly willing to give yourself over entirely on faith. If you like, like creepy stuff read up on the self mummifying monks creepy as. |
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ImTheJuggernaut said: Temoze said: Define ghost and God. Well, you see, Ghosts are spirits that are wandering somewhere and God is the maker of the Earth... Okay, um... Let me rephrase that. You see, some people don't believe in God because they are atheist. And I didn't read the bible (because it is a very thick book full of deep words and things like that) so I don't know if there's a history about that is related anything about the spirit wandering around. Also, as I watch movies or TV shows (especially "Ghost Hunters"), Ghosts' weakness are related to any Christian accessories such as the crucifix and the holy waters. So, when people hate religion, they also saying that God is not real so is demons and things like that. But, what if those who don't believe in God saw a wandering spirit passed by... Are they still believing in God now and it's religion? It all depends on what people perceive as God. There's a lot of different beliefs out there Monotheism, Pantheism, Panentheism, Agnosticism, Atheism. Some fringe scientist argue "ghost" or an apparition may be real using the Laws of Thermodynamics as support. Something that interacts with a object or person; that show signs of intelligence I believe would be classified as a daemon. |
SolidShadowNov 20, 2015 11:08 PM
| Which god are we talking about? I believe in ~20 gods. |
Chiki said: geniobastardo said: Neither is more likely than the other - from a strictly empirical approach. Wrong. The existence of God brings an incredible, if not infinite amount of complexity to empirical theories, since God is all-knowing, infinitely powerful, everywhere, all good, etc. It is bullshit. To say that ghosts exist, the most important thing you would have to do is reject the principle that only physical objects can interact with each other, and that the soul can interact with physical objects as well. http://www.iep.utm.edu/descmind/#H5 ^dis nigga doesn't know the meaning of 'empirical'. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| No. You cannot state explicitly state that the existence of ghosts, means that there is a God. There is a universe out there full of so many possibilities that it would be dishonest to make that your conclusion. Also, which God are you talking about? There are thousands of Gods across cultures. |
PoeticJustice said: No. You cannot state explicitly state that the existence of ghosts, means that there is a God. There is a universe out there full of so many possibilities that it would be dishonest to make that your conclusion. Also, which God are you talking about? There are thousands of Gods across cultures. The Christian God... Or maybe some Gods in different beliefs... |
If God exists, then he should try extending my deadline right now! ~ Kobayashi, Kobayashi-san chi no Maid Dragon - Episode 12 |
SnugglyWhuggly said: No. |
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| Not if you are a Buddhist. |
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