| I hate abortion, and I wish that people didn't get them. With that said, I can't get pregnant; the legality of abortion should be debated between those who can. |
| People would attempt abortions or they'd have back alley abortion clinics no matter what, so personally having it legal is the safest and most logical thing to do. |
aikaflip said: I hate abortion, and I wish that people didn't get them. With that said, I can't get pregnant; the legality of abortion should be debated between those who can. I'm surprised you're so pro-life. You come off as one of those intelligent people who understand life isn't a blessing. |
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| of course. people should have rights over their own body all of you being like "yes only in case of rape" need to shut the fuck up |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| It is legal here. I don't see why it shouldn't be tbh. |
TheBrainintheJar said: aikaflip said: I hate abortion, and I wish that people didn't get them. With that said, I can't get pregnant; the legality of abortion should be debated between those who can. I'm surprised you're so pro-life. You come off as one of those intelligent people who understand life isn't a blessing. i think they're actually pro-choice, just anti-abortions |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
kawaiiyuris said: TheBrainintheJar said: I'm surprised you're so pro-life. You come off as one of those intelligent people who understand life isn't a blessing. i think they're actually pro-choice, just anti-abortions I meant 'pro-life' as in, Aikaflip seems to consider life to have a positive value. I lean towareds antinatalism - I don't think life is a good thing, in and of itself. |
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coromandel said: Zazie122 said: Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is a shitty person. |
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| I have no issue with it, but I don't understand why the people who are for it argue from the perspective of it not being murder. It is very clearly murder in the same way that stepping on a spider or swatting a fly is murder. Either way, TheBrainintheJar said: I lean towareds antinatalism - I don't think life is a good thing, in and of itself. |
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GodAndTheBear said: kawaiiyuris said: all of you being like "yes only in case of rape" need to shut the fuck up Ahh, the "sanctimonious tumblr kid temper tantrum" school of debate, i see you've mastered it Nice counter argument. /sarcasm |
mayukachan said: GodAndTheBear said: Ahh, the "sanctimonious tumblr kid temper tantrum" school of debate, i see you've mastered it Nice counter argument. /sarcasm implying there was an argument in the first place. It was literally just a person telling everyone to shut the fuck up... |
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| I'm pro-choice. It's a matter of choice for the one pregnant, so my opinion on whether they should keep it or get rid of it is no one's business but their own. Plus, Fintan said: People would attempt abortions or they'd have back alley abortion clinics no matter what, so personally having it legal is the safest and most logical thing to do. |
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magsticker said: I'm pro-choice. It's a matter of choice for the one pregnant, so my opinion on whether they should keep it or get rid of it is no one's business but their own. it's still technically murder. That argument doesn't really make much sense. Fintan said: People would attempt abortions or they'd have back alley abortion clinics no matter what, so personally having it legal is the safest and most logical thing to do. this one does though. Good job fintan, couldn't have put it better. |
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| Only in case of rape, danger to mother and/or child's health (including incest), and anything I'm forgetting. If you know you can't afford to properly raise a child you should avoid pregnancy at all costs, so simply don't have sex when you know a pregnancy would be detrimental to you and your child. |
Ravioli_Ravioli said: magsticker said: I'm pro-choice. It's a matter of choice for the one pregnant, so my opinion on whether they should keep it or get rid of it is no one's business but their own. it's still technically murder. That argument doesn't really make much sense. Didn't say it wasn't. |
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RyanEnsign said: simply don't have sex when you know a pregnancy would be detrimental to you and your child. don't have sex in general lol because even condoms aren't surefire nor are pills. it's like 1 percent if you use pills, i read |
mayukachan said: Well, only if you really never, ever want to have children. I'd like to at SOME point so if I had the means to raise a child and it happened accidentally, at that point I would probably just keep the child.RyanEnsign said: simply don't have sex when you know a pregnancy would be detrimental to you and your child. don't have sex in general lol because even condoms aren't surefire nor are pills. it's like 1 percent if you use pills, i read |
| Legal in but with limits of excluding late term except special exceptions and regulations of procedural methods. |
RyanEnsign said: i don't think i can raise a child until i have a job that earns 60k per year.. lolmayukachan said: Well, only if you really never, ever want to have children. I'd like to at SOME point so if I had the means to raise a child and it happened accidentally, at that point I would probably just keep the child.don't have sex in general lol because even condoms aren't surefire nor are pills. it's like 1 percent if you use pills, i read so i guess i won't have sex until then |
| When you talk to real, living, breathing abortion survivors, this very idea makes your stomach twist in pain. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: You must be joking. Even if not any botched procedure is due to poor medical training which is the kind of thing that happens from the outlawing of abortion or lack of medical regulations.When you talk to real, living, breathing abortion survivors, this very idea makes your stomach twist in pain. |
traed said: Joking...about what? Are you about to imply these people are make believe? lolMAL, when something escapes arm-chair internet philosophy that doesn't require 1st hand experience, it becomes inconceivable.Ratohnhaketon said: You must be joking. Even if not any botched procedure is due to poor medical training which is the kind of thing that happens from the outlawing of abortion or lack of medical regulations.When you talk to real, living, breathing abortion survivors, this very idea makes your stomach twist in pain. |
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| Should be legal if: If people don't want to have a baby. Why? You dont need know. Nobody (especially men, not including trans men, unless its some special case like they were raped by them & don't want the baby) shouldn't have a say on whether or not they should get an abortion, because its not their body. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Wait to dodge any points I brought up.traed said: Joking...about what? Are you about to imply these people are make believe? lolMAL, when something escapes arm-chair internet philosophy that doesn't require 1st hand experience, it becomes inconceivable.You must be joking. Even if not any botched procedure is due to poor medical training which is the kind of thing that happens from the outlawing of abortion or lack of medical regulations. |
traed said: Frankly I'm not interested in debating this topic to begin with.Ratohnhaketon said: Wait to dodge any points I brought up.Joking...about what? Are you about to imply these people are make believe? lolMAL, when something escapes arm-chair internet philosophy that doesn't require 1st hand experience, it becomes inconceivable. |
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Ravioli_Ravioli said: I have no issue with it, but I don't understand why the people who are for it argue from the perspective of it not being murder. It is very clearly murder in the same way that stepping on a spider or swatting a fly is murder. Either way, TheBrainintheJar said: I lean towareds antinatalism - I don't think life is a good thing, in and of itself. Eating eggs is murder |
Ratohnhaketon said: Of course you're not. rankly I'm not interested in debating this topic to begin with. Guess what im a time travel assassination survivor. A time traveller tried to stop me from being conceived. |
TheBrainintheJar said: thatso yes it shud be legalIf a woman wants an abortion, she gets it. No reason for her to go through pains for a child she doesn't want. This overrides the request of the man if he wants to keep the child. He doesn't have to go through the whole birth thing. If he doesn't want to abort then he doesn't have to pay (Unless the woman has no means, and then he needs to contribute). If a man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't, he doesn't have to support the kid. |
Ravioli_Ravioli said: I have no issue with it, but I don't understand why the people who are for it argue from the perspective of it not being murder. It is very clearly murder in the same way that stepping on a spider or swatting a fly is murder. Either way, TheBrainintheJar said: I lean towareds antinatalism - I don't think life is a good thing, in and of itself. Is killing a suicidal person when he asks you murder? |
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JD2411 said: Where is the logic behind making them pay though? If they have a kid because they were too poor to pay for an abortion that would be more costly for tax payers than if they got an abortion paid for. Im not saying they necessarily should be paid for by the government but I am just saying there is a flaw to that logic in any country that does have services for poor people.yes but you have to pay unless you were raped |
| Obvious answer is obvious YES |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| This is why we need to eliminate self greed this is promoting selfish greed Thanks, Machiavelli |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| Ya the option needs to at least be available, whether someone wants to use the option should be up to personal choice. |
| Yes, what people whose actions will never affect me do with their bodies is not my nor anyone else's decision. In parenting classes, it is stressed that parents wait until they are ready, so why should we punish people with an entirely new human being if something happened and they couldn't wait until they're ready. The child shouldn't have to be born into a less than optimal position because the parents weren't ready too. However, I do think the cut off date should be before the age of viability. If the mother's past that point, she needs to be informed of her other options so she (and the father too if he's present) can make the best decision she(/they) can. |
robotical said: Yes, what people whose actions will never affect me do with their bodies is not my nor anyone else's decision. In parenting classes, it is stressed that parents wait until they are ready, so why should we punish people with an entirely new human being if something happened and they couldn't wait until they're ready. The child shouldn't have to be born into a less than optimal position because the parents weren't ready too. However, I do think the cut off date should be before the age of viability. If the mother's past that point, she needs to be informed of her other options so she (and the father too if he's present) can make the best decision she(/they) can. Why? |
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| I haven't been checking out the MAL forums for the past 2 days, and I'm too lazy to catch up on all the replies in this thread now, so I'll just interject by throwing my own opinion on this in here: I think abortion should be legal. Even if it's made illegal, people will still be getting abortions done illegally, which could arguably be more dodgy than getting them done by licensed doctors. Protection doesn't always work, condoms break, the pill sometimes fails, and if a person didn't intend to have a baby, I see no problem in getting the foetus terminated before it grows into an actual baby. I think it's a lot worse for children who are unwanted to be born into this world, than simply terminating them before they have a chance to suffer. Then of course you also have problems with the foetus, a high probability of the mother dying during childbirth, the parents not being financially stable enough to care for a baby, etc. There's plenty of reasons why abortion should be legal. |
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| Here's something that shouldn't be legal. *unzips* |
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Zippidy-Zip-Two said: aren't you originalHere's something that shouldn't be legal. *unzips* |
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| I'd love to see the genocide of the unborn but not if it empowers females :-( Jk |
| Of course. For those who say It shouldn't: you are not the one who are going to have the child. And some people just can't take the responsibility. Also, in some countries some people just don't have access to protection or even information about it. I live in Brazil and some of my country regions are really poor, teens there just don't have access to information about prevention and a lot of poor women die because of illegal abortion. Its the fifth cause of women's death here. The rich just pay the clandestine medics to abort and the poor die. Its so obvious that it should be legal. Also, just because it is illegal it doesn't mean that people won't do it. At least let them do it in a secure way, it's a health issue. |
DejWo said: You mean,like aborting a match in DOTA or LoL? Aborting an unborn fetus. |
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SnugglyWhuggly said: DejWo said: You mean,like aborting a match in DOTA or LoL? Aborting an unborn fetus. Oh.  |
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