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Nov 7, 2015 5:29 PM
#51
DejWo said: we're not filthy INTJs.FloatingIdiot said: Anna_Cats said: 40% INTJ 31% INTP the rest don't matter I always test as INTP, so this is probably due to the fact that there were less questions and I skipped the ones I couldn't decide on right away. That test seems to be biased against INTP for whatever reason. Or you are actually INTJs/different type,lol. Which could be further confirmed by your post floating. At least,in your case. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:30 PM
#52
Anna_Cats said: DejWo said: we're not filthy INTJs.FloatingIdiot said: Anna_Cats said: 40% INTJ 31% INTP the rest don't matter I always test as INTP, so this is probably due to the fact that there were less questions and I skipped the ones I couldn't decide on right away. That test seems to be biased against INTP for whatever reason. Or you are actually INTJs/different type,lol. Which could be further confirmed by your post floating. At least,in your case. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:31 PM
#53
DejWo said: FloatingIdiot said: Anna_Cats said: 40% INTJ 31% INTP the rest don't matter I always test as INTP, so this is probably due to the fact that there were less questions and I skipped the ones I couldn't decide on right away. That test seems to be biased against INTP for whatever reason. Or you are actually INTJs/different type,lol. Which could be further confirmed by your post floating. At least,in your case. Explain this one please. I've long believed myself to be about 70% INTP 30% INFP. I don't really buy the "everyone is one of 16 types" idea though. Also, yes I'm definitely not a filthy INTJ, but that didn't even show up as a percentage. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:32 PM
#54
Nov 7, 2015 5:33 PM
#56
FloatingIdiot said: DejWo said: FloatingIdiot said: Anna_Cats said: 40% INTJ 31% INTP the rest don't matter I always test as INTP, so this is probably due to the fact that there were less questions and I skipped the ones I couldn't decide on right away. That test seems to be biased against INTP for whatever reason. Or you are actually INTJs/different type,lol. Which could be further confirmed by your post floating. At least,in your case. Explain this one please. I've long believed myself to be about 70% INTP 30% INFP. I don't really buy the "everyone is one of 16 types" idea though. MBTI is about which functions you use for processing information. You are not really 70% this type and 30% that. Your behaviour may be similar to the stereotype of that type,but that does not mean you process information that way. If I had to use an analogy,different personality types are like different algorithms. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:36 PM
#57
DejWo said: MBTI is about which functions you use for processing information. You are not really 70% this type and 30% that. Your behaviour may be similar to the stereotype of that type,but that does not mean you process information that way. If I had to use an analogy,different personality types are like different algorithms. Show me the proof that "everyone either uses this combination of algorithms or that combination of algorithms" and I will buy the theory. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:36 PM
#58
I'm considered INFP for the regular MBTI test and Moog's. I'm surprised I wasn't close to ISFP though on Moog's, I use to score as ISFP and I still think I'm quite like that. |
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Nov 7, 2015 5:37 PM
#59
FloatingIdiot said: DejWo said: MBTI is about which functions you use for processing information. You are not really 70% this type and 30% that. Your behaviour may be similar to the stereotype of that type,but that does not mean you process information that way. If I had to use an analogy,different personality types are like different algorithms. Show me the proof that "everyone either uses this combination of algorithms or that combination of algorithms" and I will buy the theory. lol,what proof do you want from psychology? Will I take brain apart or something? Only way to gain information is via observation. But if you assume to know better than psychologist,sure,go on. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:38 PM
#60
infp |
Nov 7, 2015 5:39 PM
#61
DejWo said: FloatingIdiot said: Show me the proof that "everyone either uses this combination of algorithms or that combination of algorithms" and I will buy the theory. lol,what proof do you want from psychology? Will I take brain apart or something? Only way to gain information is via observation. But if you assume to know better than psychologist,sure,go on. If you are going to defer to experts on the subject, the modern psychology consensus is against MBTI and cognitive functions models. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:41 PM
#62
FloatingIdiot said: DejWo said: FloatingIdiot said: Show me the proof that "everyone either uses this combination of algorithms or that combination of algorithms" and I will buy the theory. lol,what proof do you want from psychology? Will I take brain apart or something? Only way to gain information is via observation. But if you assume to know better than psychologist,sure,go on. If you are going to defer to experts on the subject, the modern psychology consensus is against MBTI and cognitive functions models. Well,could be,for all I know. |
Nov 7, 2015 5:53 PM
#63
(INFP-T) |
Nov 7, 2015 6:04 PM
#64
INTJ-A I don't get it. Oh well GG. |
Nov 7, 2015 6:08 PM
#65
Moog said: I would recommend this test 47% ESTJ 14% ENTJ 11% ESFJ 7% ISTP 6% ISTJ |
FragMentizedNov 8, 2015 10:20 AM
Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
Nov 7, 2015 6:40 PM
#66
Nov 7, 2015 8:56 PM
#67
ISFJ |
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Nov 7, 2015 9:02 PM
#68
On that new test I scored. 96% ENFP 1% ENFJ 1% ENTP 1% INFP 0% ENTJ |
Nov 7, 2015 9:16 PM
#69
Results from OP's test: (Protagonist) ENFJ-A And Moog's test: 40% ENFJ 37% ESFJ 5% ESFP 4% ENFP 3% ENTJ |
Nov 7, 2015 9:18 PM
#70
Personality tests are pretty fucking stupid and non-consequential. What's the personality type for stubbornness again? |
Nov 7, 2015 9:22 PM
#72
Bernkastel said: What's big 5? is that another personality test like MBTI?khunter said: Personality tests are pretty fucking stupid and non-consequential. What's the personality type for stubbornness again? Openness to experience axis on Big5? |
Nov 7, 2015 9:28 PM
#73
first stuff i was enfp-t Extraverted – 16%, Intuitive – 48%, Feeling – 16%, Prospecting – 48%, Turbulent – 24% second one i was 85% INFP 7% ENFP 3% INTP 2% ENTP 1% INFJ khunter said: Personality tests are pretty fucking stupid and non-consequential. What's the personality type for stubbornness again? intj |
Nov 7, 2015 9:29 PM
#74
Bernkastel said: hmm, I'm going to try this.Dawn said: Bernkastel said: khunter said: Personality tests are pretty fucking stupid and non-consequential. What's the personality type for stubbornness again? Openness to experience axis on Big5? Yup, except Big5 tries to be empirical so it does have predictive value but each of the axis has a true good/bad. So in Big5 you can actually have a superior personality. The 5 axis are: Agreeableness - High = better Openness to experience - High = better Neuroticism - Low = better Extraversion - Debatable? High generally accepted as better Conscientiousness - High = better |
Nov 7, 2015 9:31 PM
#75
Bernkastel said: I think all of those are debatable on what is better. At least as far as the far end of things. Pretty much all the high or low ends of those have problems associated with them. Some more or less than others though.The 5 axis are: Agreeableness - High = better Openness to experience - High = better Neuroticism - Low = better Extraversion - Debatable? High generally accepted as better Conscientiousness - High = better |
Nov 7, 2015 9:36 PM
#76
Bernkastel said: If we discount the theory then all of this is moot. If we take the theory seriously, I can tell you with 100% certainty you do not resemble INTPs at all. What then? The only other type that would make some sense is INFP and I'm not dominated by feeling. |
Nov 7, 2015 9:37 PM
#77
Nov 7, 2015 9:38 PM
#78
on that test I scored like this. I hope this isnt derailing because it's still my "personality types" OP! |
Nov 7, 2015 9:43 PM
#79
Nov 7, 2015 9:45 PM
#80
Bernkastel said: You misunderstood. I did not say that they could be the total opposite as what is debatable. What I said is that there is a certain point where it no longer is good. So saying high/low is good is just a generalization that overlooks the far end of that spectrum. Where that point is can be debated.traed said: Bernkastel said: The 5 axis are: Agreeableness - High = better Openness to experience - High = better Neuroticism - Low = better Extraversion - Debatable? High generally accepted as better Conscientiousness - High = better I don't think there's a good argument that having high neuroticism (emotional instability), low openness (stubborn and close minded), low agreeableness or low conscientiousness (organization, self discipline) could be good. Maybe in really niche cases? |
Nov 7, 2015 9:46 PM
#81
Bernkastel said: FloatingIdiot said: Bernkastel said: If we discount the theory then all of this is moot. If we take the theory seriously, I can tell you with 100% certainty you do not resemble INTPs at all. What then? The only other type that would make some sense is INFP and I'm not dominated by feeling. Until I see someone in person I'm skeptical of how they're really like. From just your writing though, I would say INTJ is the most likely, and INTP isn't even second... or third. Care to explain a bit? What would be second and third? I've always felt most similar to other INTPs, and at odds with how INTJs see things. |
Nov 7, 2015 9:50 PM
#82
60% ISTP 14% INTP 8% ISTJ 3% ENTP 3% ESTP |
Nov 7, 2015 9:54 PM
#83
Moog's test isn't working for me. What does "the operation timed out" mean anyway? |
Nov 7, 2015 10:36 PM
#85
Salvatia said: infj am search for famous infj like me wtf dis result |
Nov 7, 2015 10:39 PM
#86
Salvatia said: don't worry. there's a nazi for every personality type.Salvatia said: infj am search for famous infj like me wtf dis result [img]http://i.imgur.com/ACFhwd2.jpg[img] |
Nov 7, 2015 10:45 PM
#87
Bernkastel said: I was originally going to comment on this part, but, no. This is correct. Criticism of the applicability of the theory will rarely ever be a serious point they consider, more emphasis will be put on introspection for the internal consistency of the system. Bernkastel said: Well to be clear, it's not that an INTP would "ignore" you, in the negative sense (which you probably aren't implying, but again, as clarity). As long as such an argument was intuitively reasonable, an INTP would simply be content to agree and not reply because it's not necessary. And you know... it's kinda' embarrassing to write a one liner reply for the sake of it. If I wrote a serious practical critique on MBTI, an INTP will almost always ignore me and simply not reply. There is also a similar case though where an INTP would choose not to reply within a recent period of time, mull over the argument, and then decide if a reply was necessary (moreso on, as noted, issues of consistency). And even then, proceed not bother because of sheer laziness. |
Nov 7, 2015 10:46 PM
#88
INTJ-A "Architect" Role: Analyst Strategy: Confident Individualism Introverted 66% Thinking 28% Initiative 30% Judging 54% Assertive 48% Right.. XD |
Brandon0493Nov 7, 2015 10:59 PM
Nov 7, 2015 10:48 PM
#89
Dawn said: mine is awful ; - ;on that test I scored like this. I hope this isnt derailing because it's still my "personality types" OP! |
Nov 7, 2015 11:48 PM
#90
Moog said: I would recommend this test for more accurate results. Why? Because online tests like the 16Personalities one suck. They don't take the cognitive functions--the meat of Jungian typology--into consideration. You can't be 'INTP but almost INTJ', because there is nothing similar about these types at all when it comes to how their brains work. Your responses in OP's test just shifts the percentage bar towards the Perceiving or Judging dichotomy, as if being late to work somehow makes you an INTP instead of INTJ if you're close towards either letter. It makes no sense, because the types are fundamentally different, lol. The test I linked actually relies on the cognitive functions, and I think that you'll find the results to be more accurate. Maybe you'll even get the same type. Reading about the cognitive functions is probably more helpful than taking tests. I got ISTJ for some reason, the dominant function is Si and I don't agree with that at all. This "16 personalities" thing is a load of bollocks imo. |
EminemNov 8, 2015 12:17 AM
Nov 8, 2015 12:16 AM
#91
Nov 8, 2015 12:34 AM
#93
To Bernkastel: Well, that sheds some light on why you’d think that way. And honestly when I asked you, I guessed you would say INTJ, so I guess if I were to type myself based on (recent) forum activity I’d come up with the same thing. Bernkastel said: FloatingIdiot said: Care to explain a bit? What would be second and third? I've always felt most similar to other INTPs, and at odds with how INTJs see things. Your arguments are exactly how INTJs put out their point. Immediately when Dej pointed out that your interpretation of MBTI is outside normal, you immediately bring up pragmatic concerns and skepticism to the original system. Your argument style is very Te. Ti arguments are much more axiomatic and rarely give disproportional consideration to practicality over logical consistency. My root skepticism is for it not being able to categorize reality, in that I find it easy to produce counterexamples that void its legitimacy. I guess it is ultimately a pragmatic concern though. I actually have my own function model + MBTI-ish scale that I developed which I think reconciles my biggest issues with the common interpretation, but it exists only in my head because I’ve always been too lazy to explain it to anyone. You are most commonly found debating in threads discussing MBTI, IQ, intelligence/genius or intellectual anime topics. You push your points very firmly, and have a high tendency to only yield against evidence and practical concerns, at the expense of system consistency. This is a very rare compromise to make for INTPs, in fact, INTPs is the only intellectual type that is known to immediately back down from direct confrontation. The fact that you're one of the most confronting members on CD right now is strong evidence against INTP. I wonder what makes you think I don’t prioritize system consistency. Like in the gender war threads, my focus is always on keeping both sides in line against inconsistency rather than promoting a specific view that is practical. And I almost always take the role of skeptic rather than promoter when it comes to systems and labels like "genius" for example, a word I particularly despise without a number of conditions. I feel like I’m only confrontational in certain cases, and they all involve issues which actually have an impact on the world. I guess this makes me a pragmatist. Although if I find someone’s perspective either interesting, or bordering on hypocrisy, I do play devil’s advocate quite a bit. That is why I needle people so much about their love of NGE when they pretend thematic depth is important to them. Well I guess the other reason is I like having a community that is able to think for themselves, and having a bunch of sheep trying to look intelligent by their anime favorites just bothers me. Maybe a good case study of my more pragmatic side would be my posts in that “Violence” thread because they show a weakness. My brain underwent multiple BSODs after reading most of the posts I was responding to, and thus I lost my cool a bit there and posted a bunch of stuff which was both condescending and disjointed. This was my frustration showing through because there was such an overflow of bad thinking in each post. I felt compelled to respond for the sole sake of not granting any implied legitimacy to the ill-formed views that were being expressed, even though it was something I didn’t feel like doing at all. I actually hate conflicts but the one thing I hate more than them are bad ideas and bad thinking going unchallenged. In my mind, I'm taking a reluctant role even if it may look like it's something I love doing. INTPs are more likely to be found debating mental masturbation topics, such as discrete vs continuous spectrum, rather than have focus on practical application of intellectual subjects such as application or validity of psychometric tests. In fact, INTPs only circlejerk when discussing MBTI. Criticism of the applicability of the theory will rarely ever be a serious point they consider, more emphasis will be put on introspection for the internal consistency of the system. If I wrote a serious practical critique on MBTI, an INTP will almost always ignore me and simply not reply. I think I’ve basically learned “Te”, or from my perspective: translating my thoughts into a language which can more easily be understood. I realize that I don’t think in ways that can easily be shared and output (which seems like clear Ti to me), but I also realize the importance of being able to do so. Back when I had to write literary essays, I would basically just write in chunks as I thought of them and then attach the chunks. Even now I’m going back and forth between each paragraph as I think of how to best articulate what I’m on about. I find posting a lot more mentally exhausting than simply thinking something through. Having a whole lot of creative thoughts and doing nothing with them is also a common theme in my life. I would actually love to be a prolific musician or writer in my free time but I get so lazy and then end up just wasting my time in a place like MAL. About mental masturbation type stuff: pure mathematics courses and upper level philosophy were probably my favorite courses I took in my entire education, but I really don’t have any interest discussing topics like these on MAL for a bunch of reasons. I also hate playing the lecturer unless there is a moral or social issue involved, in which ignorance affects the world in a noticeable way. This could be an example of my pragmatism, but I think it’s more just a case of me not being entertained by discussing things which I already understand fully. In that .99~ thread, I really just wanted to interpret the question a certain way because it’s something that I’ve never actually seen addressed as a topic. That being that contrary to common belief, significant figures aren’t all that determine a rounded number’s resolution. It’s just something I don’t remember seeing in a textbook so I thought I’d bring up that angle just because. I know how misleading online interactions can be so just take this as a grain of salt, but top 3: 1. INTJ 2. ENTP 3. ISTP They’re all one letter away from guess what! |
HalkenburgNov 8, 2015 12:40 AM
Nov 8, 2015 1:31 AM
#95
Always been an INFJ Just did the test that was posted on this thread anyways. 38% INFJ, 21% ENFJ, 13% INTJ Sounds pretty accurate |
ClawdsNov 8, 2015 1:42 AM
Nov 8, 2015 2:15 AM
#96
Okay, so I did this test to compare the result with others I did before. I got ... INTP xD Personality: INTP ("The Logician") Variant: Turbulent Role: Analyst Strategy: Constant Improvement - Mind - Introverted 74% - Energy - Observant 72% - Nature - Thinking 28% - Tactics - Prospecting 62% - Identity - Turbulent 33% http://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality Not sure which between INTP and INTJ I got the most at various tests, but I relate more to the INTP one. I do wonder what this Identity thingy means, I haven't seen it before. |
NyarlathothepNov 8, 2015 3:34 AM
Nov 8, 2015 2:32 AM
#97
I get INTP on these tests every time I take them. Not sure why I keep taking them. 45% INTP 24% INFP 12% ISTP 6% ENFP 6% ENTP |
MooncakeNov 8, 2015 2:37 AM
Nov 8, 2015 3:18 AM
#99
Nov 8, 2015 3:40 AM
#100
EminemVEVO said: Moog said: I would recommend this test for more accurate results. Why? Because online tests like the 16Personalities one suck. They don't take the cognitive functions--the meat of Jungian typology--into consideration. You can't be 'INTP but almost INTJ', because there is nothing similar about these types at all when it comes to how their brains work. Your responses in OP's test just shifts the percentage bar towards the Perceiving or Judging dichotomy, as if being late to work somehow makes you an INTP instead of INTJ if you're close towards either letter. It makes no sense, because the types are fundamentally different, lol. The test I linked actually relies on the cognitive functions, and I think that you'll find the results to be more accurate. Maybe you'll even get the same type. Reading about the cognitive functions is probably more helpful than taking tests. I got ISTJ for some reason, the dominant function is Si and I don't agree with that at all. This "16 personalities" thing is a load of bollocks imo. It is much more helpful to read about the cognitive functions. I don't think that any test is capable of being as accurate as your own conclusions if you've actually studied the system thoroughly. Most people don't have the time or interest to read into the underlying mechanics of the MBTI, so it's easy to understand why they are content with these tests, though. I also think it's stupid when these same people discredit the theory and brush it off as inaccurate without having any idea of how it works. Most people that complain are the ones that are taking these 16Personalities tests anyway, and complain that the results are inaccurate, but they probably don't realise that they might just be delusional and incapable of analysing their own behaviour, and thus provide answers that don't really reflect their true personality. That's not really an easy thing to do, though. I don't have any issues with people criticizing it, but at least provide some real arguments, and not some half-assed bullshittery that you pulled out of your ass. I'm pretty skeptic myself when it comes to MBTI, but at least I've done enough research to understand what its flaws are. The Big Five personality trait system is just as, if not, more interesting, imo. That being said, I still think the MBTI can be heaps of fun, and provide some insight into your personality if you enjoy reading about that stuff. I don't really think that the test is capable of telling you stuff about yourself that you didn't already know, though. |
MoogNov 8, 2015 3:55 AM
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