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Nov 8, 2015 3:40 AM
#101
Nov 8, 2015 3:51 AM
#102
77% ENFP 7% ESFP 5% INFP 2% ENFJ 2% ENTP I always get ENFP in other tests anyway xD |
Nov 8, 2015 4:03 AM
#104
Moog said: I would recommend this test for more accurate results. Why? Because online tests like the 16Personalities one suck. They don't take the cognitive functions--the meat of Jungian typology--into consideration. You can't be 'INTP but almost INTJ', because there is nothing similar about these types at all when it comes to how their brains work. Your responses in OP's test just shifts the percentage bar towards the Perceiving or Judging dichotomy, as if being late to work somehow makes you an INTP instead of INTJ if you're close towards either letter. It makes no sense, because the types are fundamentally different, lol. The test I linked actually relies on the cognitive functions, and I think that you'll find the results to be more accurate. Maybe you'll even get the same type. 76% INTJ 6% ENTJ 4% INTP 3% ENTP 3% INFJ |
Nov 8, 2015 4:14 AM
#105
Moog said: I would recommend this test for more accurate results. Why? Because online tests like the 16Personalities one suck. They don't take the cognitive functions--the meat of Jungian typology--into consideration. You can't be 'INTP but almost INTJ', because there is nothing similar about these types at all when it comes to how their brains work. Your responses in OP's test just shifts the percentage bar towards the Perceiving or Judging dichotomy, as if being late to work somehow makes you an INTP instead of INTJ if you're close towards either letter. It makes no sense, because the types are fundamentally different, lol. The test I linked actually relies on the cognitive functions, and I think that you'll find the results to be more accurate. Maybe you'll even get the same type. It took me 40 questions to get a result. Even I do feel like my personality's all over the place haha. 28% INTJ 14% ISTP 10% ISFP 9% ESTP 9% ISTJ |
"Having someone saying you're okay as you are and being needed by that person... It was nice to have someone like that..." — Taiga Aisaka |
Nov 8, 2015 9:04 AM
#107
Moog said: I don't disagree with anything you've said here. I've read about the functions. I don't think I have any of the 16 personalities. I'll check out the Big Five thing. |
Nov 8, 2015 9:08 AM
#108
i do get different result every time i try this -___- |
Nov 8, 2015 9:25 AM
#109
I don't know about this personality test bs, I'm 100% alpha boss nigga |
Nov 8, 2015 9:33 AM
#110
I had ISTP when I did the Test mentioned in the OP. With the Test mentioned by Moog I have: 45% ISTJ 21% ISTP 10% ISFJ 9% ESTJ 4% INTJ |
Nov 8, 2015 10:43 AM
#111
To Bernkastel: Bernkastel said: @FloatingIdiot, My first impression reading that is like reading a person writing an argument in English justifying why they are actually writing German. Almost all your justifications are more complicated and require even larger leaps of faith than the content they're justifying. To me this is clear evidence of biased introspection. To respond to your analogy, I see where you are coming from, but still think you’re missing something which is probably my fault. Say I’m a native German speaker. I see it more as trying to explain in English because you speak English that I am actually more fluent in German, yet in the process never actually showing you my German. And you consider it a leap of faith to believe I am in fact a native German, a justifiable belief on your end as I haven’t really shown anything to the contrary (fluent German). Just through experience, I’ve learned that my normal way of thinking doesn’t really get through to people, so I have learned different ways to bridge the gap of communication. I become a sort of chameleon, speaking all languages but German if that’s what it takes. In our discussions for example, I saw from the beginning the language you spoke and I know all about you filthy INTJs. In general, if my goal is to be corrective of a belief that is just plain stupid, I will speak in the language of “Te” because that is what people tend to respect the most, and it also makes me look more like the winner of an argument, even if I am not personally satisfied with the line of reasoning I wrote down. Maybe your system of MBTI is actually completely different to how we defined it since you said you have your own theory. In that case maybe you're INTP under your version of MBTI, but under traditional MBTI, I am 100% certain your writing style has nothing in common with INTPs. No, it uses the same functions but just allows for gray areas between all areas of the MBTI dichotomies. The end result of typing should always coincide with the 16 function models, but just allow for a little leeway. I designed it that way intentionally. Your entire response contains zero examples of "pure" introspection or even self-doubt which is what INTP response would be almost entirely comprised of. Go tell any INTP they're 100% not INTP and watch them ponder for years and end up solving the meaning of the universe. Unless people have told you this 100x so you're just reacting out of reflex, your response style is the complete opposite of what you would expect from an INTP. Your entire response is external justification, i.e., the thinking style that is noticeably absent in all INTP writing. Well the flaw with using that as judging criteria is that: a) I never held the belief that I was “100% INTP”, or actually anything close to that, in the first place b) I was already self-aware that I probably came off as INTJ to you, and also had an understanding of why, which actually is almost completely in line with what you have expressed As for the reflex thing, this topic has actually come up quite a bit in real time conversations, and nobody has ever believed I were INTJ. I tend to be dismissive of the idea because I have been historically successful in spotting INTJs from a mile away by the “English” they speak, which I can tell isn’t my native language. But then again if you assume I am INTP, I guess it is conceivable that a fellow INTP could do the same to me on MAL, which would be an incorrect conclusion in that case, so I am willing to admit my INTJ-dar has some flaws if I am to also believe that I am not one. It's impossible to just learn cognitive functions like that and make them your base. If you could simply do that, then changing conversation style should be a piece of cake for everyone. The reality is that it is extraordinarily hard and taxing. There is one unique style of thinking/conversation any individual always default to. I agree that it is taxing to speak in “Te-speak”. I’ve mentioned multiple times in CD even, that I don’t even like to argue to an objective and wish other people would do it for me. But when I see that viewpoint is missing or improperly represented, I will step up. Learning cognitive functions? I look at it more as learning communication styles. While I also don’t see any reason to believe that everyone can only use certain cognitive functions, and that I have sort of developed “Te” simply through written communication using Te-speak, I can read anyone’s definition of Ti and relate to it a ton more. I guess this whole MBTI topic has been brought up so many times to me that I have reached the point where nothing anybody says really seems new to me anymore. And it almost sounds like you think INTJs don't enjoy theoretical endeavors. I didn't read tons of philosophy books in middle school because a teacher forced me to. The difference is in the message extracted, and your arguments closely resemble NTJ logic. Not really. It’s just going off of what you said, the “mental masturbation” stuff. I actually don’t like reading philosophy books much at all, instead preferring to talk about topics with other people, just based on how we derive our views organically, rather than adopting someone else’s views. It may be a bit of a weakness as I am missing out on some interesting stuff, but books aren’t interactive FloatingIdiot said: They’re all one letter away from guess what! As many have pointed out, 1 letter changes everything. The closest type to INTJ in thinking methodology is actually ESFP, they're mirrors, two sides of the same coin. INTJ and INTP have one of the largest differences in the entirety of MBTI, they're essentially opposites in every way. I just wanted to see what you would say, lol. |
HalkenburgNov 8, 2015 10:48 AM
Nov 8, 2015 8:38 PM
#112
@Bernkastel You're making so many generalizations that really make the criteria for INTP so narrow that almost nobody would fit it. Like, about winning arguments for example. Nobody wants to lose an argument, INTPs included. I don't even care about winning arguments for the sake thereof. I just care that the logically correct ideas win out in the end and paving the road for logical discourse. That is why I commonly criticize both "teams" in the middle of an argument. It's the quality of ideas I care about and the effects that their spread creates. I understand why MBTI types are supposed to exist, but reasoning "feedback loops" just aren't as simple in reality as the cognitive function system would make one think, and humans use many different kinds of loops. I know I do when I'm reasoning something out. I guess I place the highest value on my internal logic adding up, so that is why I would identify as INTP first and foremost, but I often get overwhelmed by what most would consider "Fi". I actually feel the most similar in temperament to NFP types in general, but I completely lose them on certain topics. If you can't understand the "speaking different language" thing, that's fine but I know I do it. I even have basically different personalities in all the Internet places I visit. I adapt my persona to fit what interests me in a community. Here, I'm really just fascinated by the groupthink and lack of logical grounding, so my persona tends to be more outwardly confrontational and challenging, and observing how my comments shape discourse. |
Nov 8, 2015 11:35 PM
#113
Bernkastel said: @FloatingIdiot, They are observations that are key to INTP character that are almost always true. It is not true in all cases, but in your case you violate them essentially 100% of the time. This means as a logical person I would have to type you as anti-INTP. I've asked 2 confirmed INTPs today to read your text, and neither of them find it even remotely relatable. As one of them put it "[your probability of being INTP is] maybe zero percent". He told me to ask you the question: Which part of your personality does not fit INTP? I tend to only preoccupy myself with issues that have personal or moral significance, or a sociological impact. Versus an INTP stereotype, I feel like I am more empathetic and sensitive in general. I relate to the functions Ni slightly more than Si, and Fi a lot more than Fe. I have a strong distaste for analytical methods which over-generalize and remove the human element. I feel a bit out of place in online INTP community because they seem like a bunch of robots. There are a number of areas where I don’t feel like the stereotypical INTP. There are more areas though, where I don’t feel like the stereotypical INTJ, INFP, ENTP, ISTP, etc. I guess the best way of putting it is if INTP is a disease, I would probably have a moderate case of it. If types are genetic though, I would be an IxTJ as both of my parents are clearly that type. However, I've always perceived things quite a bit different from them. I have always been a lot more scatterbrained and creative, and seen as having an attention deficit. Like I also said, you don't really see my true character at all on these forums, and I do have a better idea of my own character than other people do simply from observing a basically fake persona. |
HalkenburgNov 9, 2015 1:58 AM
Nov 8, 2015 11:56 PM
#114
wow. so many INTP here. |
INTP (Ne) A hound, begging for scraps at the emperor's table |
Nov 9, 2015 1:38 AM
#115
What is your type,Bern? MBTI,not women. |
Nov 9, 2015 2:06 AM
#116
Bernkastel said: DejWo said: What is your type,Bern? MBTI,not women. I dunno, you tell me :D ESFJ? |
Nov 9, 2015 2:15 AM
#117
INTJ-A. |
Nov 9, 2015 3:00 AM
#118
Nov 9, 2015 4:09 AM
#119
Nov 9, 2015 4:40 AM
#120
92% INTP 3% INFP 1% ENTP 1% INTJ 1% ISTP SHIIIIIT SHIIIIIITT |
Nov 9, 2015 4:50 AM
#121
EminemVEVO said: I'll check out the Big Five thing. Very high openness and conscientiousness, very low extraversion, neuroticism and agreeableness. |
Nov 9, 2015 9:33 AM
#122
Nov 9, 2015 10:16 AM
#123
EminemVEVO said: EminemVEVO said: I'll check out the Big Five thing. Very high openness and conscientiousness, very low extraversion, neuroticism and agreeableness. If you're very high in openness, INTJ is probably a better fit than ISTJ. |
Nov 9, 2015 10:31 AM
#124
FloatingIdiot said: EminemVEVO said: EminemVEVO said: I'll check out the Big Five thing. Very high openness and conscientiousness, very low extraversion, neuroticism and agreeableness. If you're very high in openness, INTJ is probably a better fit than ISTJ. That's what I figured, but I get different MBTI results from different websites. |
Nov 9, 2015 10:56 AM
#125
ENFJ |
Nov 9, 2015 11:13 AM
#126
EminemVEVO said: EminemVEVO said: I'll check out the Big Five thing. Very high openness and conscientiousness, very low extraversion, neuroticism and agreeableness. Nice! I actually know about a 'Big 5' personality test that gives you some comprehensive information and statistics based on your scores, if you're more curious about this stuff. I'm not sure about its validity, but it's a fun test with supposed scientific backing (the Big 5 system is the only personality trait system with real credibility in psychology). Reading the result pages are particularly interesting. Test. |
MoogNov 9, 2015 11:34 AM
Nov 9, 2015 11:15 AM
#127
INTP-T The true god race |
Nov 9, 2015 11:22 AM
#128
Moog said: EminemVEVO said: EminemVEVO said: I'll check out the Big Five thing. Very high openness and conscientiousness, very low extraversion, neuroticism and agreeableness. Nice! I actually know about a 'Big 5' personality test that gives you some comprehensive information and statistics based on your scores, if you're more curious about this stuff. I'm not sure about its validity, but it's a fun test with supposed scientific backing (the Big 5 system is the only personality trait system with real basis in psychology). Reading the result pages are particularly interesting. Test. Your Personality Type is The Prodigy (RIOGD) Prodigies are emotionally reactive, which means that they experience their emotions strongly and can be very passionate., however also have a higher tendency to experience emotions such as anxiety, anger and depression. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Prodigy can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Prodigy enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a healthy skepticism of the motives of others, and a belief in justice and being self made, sometimes the Prodigy can come across as guarded or intimidating. However the Prodigy generally has good self discipline and is recognized as being able to plan and think ahead. Neuroticism 53 Extraversion 39 Openness to Experience 92 Agreeableness 11 Conscientiousness 53 Well,it was interesting. I completed the entire test,btw. |
Nov 9, 2015 11:34 AM
#130
Your Personality Type Is The Designer (RIOGS) Designers are emotionally reactive, which means that they experience their emotions strongly and can be very passionate., however also have a higher tendency to experience emotions such as anxiety, anger and depression. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Designer can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Designer enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a healthy skepticism of the motives of others, and a belief in justice and being self made, sometimes the Designer can come across as guarded or intimidating. However the Designer has a refreshing impulsiveness about them, they tend to dislike too many rules and regulations and can be casual and whimsical. You rarely get angry and it takes a lot to make you angry, however you experience panic, confusion, and helplessness when under pressure or stress. You are not prone to spells of energetic high spirits. Generally you are not considered to be an emotional person, however you are aware of and in touch with your emotions. You dislike confrontations and are perfectly willing to compromise or to deny your own needs in order to get along with others, however you generally see others as selfish, devious, and sometimes potentially dangerous. You take your time when making decisions and will deliberate on all the possible consequences and alternatives. The second part is extremely true for me. |
HalkenburgNov 9, 2015 11:38 AM
Nov 9, 2015 11:34 AM
#131
Agreeableness 1 Conscientiousness 77 The others are around 20. |
Nov 9, 2015 11:37 AM
#132
Nov 9, 2015 11:39 AM
#133
Typical INTP score. :P Although they would generally score higher on openness. |
Nov 9, 2015 11:39 AM
#134
I got a solid 8 on Agreeableness, if that's what you're talking about. Oh wait, I beat you on Friendliness with a 4 :) |
Nov 9, 2015 11:48 AM
#136
are they talking to me just now? I heard "agreeableness" if scores low, then big chances that the person is rule breaker, therefore they can change course of current trends. |
INTP (Ne) A hound, begging for scraps at the emperor's table |
Nov 9, 2015 11:53 AM
#137
33% INTJ 23% INTP 11% INFJ 10% ENTP 8% INFP wtf is this? |
Nov 9, 2015 11:55 AM
#138
INFP! |
Nov 9, 2015 11:59 AM
#139
Akihiko86 said: I heard "agreeableness" if scores low, then big chances that the person is rule breaker, therefore they can change course of current trends. Good. Death to Clannad. |
Nov 9, 2015 12:07 PM
#140
Nov 9, 2015 12:24 PM
#142
The Few,The Proud and The Megalomaniacs = INTJ |
Nov 9, 2015 12:30 PM
#143
Moog said: I actually know about a 'Big 5' personality test that gives you some comprehensive information and statistics based on your scores, if you're more curious about this stuff. I'm not sure about its validity, but it's a fun test with supposed scientific backing (the Big 5 system is the only personality trait system with real credibility in psychology). Reading the result pages are particularly interesting. Test. Your Personality Type Is The Healer (BIOAS) Healers are emotionally balanced, which means that they are less prone to depression and are able to cope well with feelings of anxiety, anger and vulnerability. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Healer can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Healer enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a sense of social responsibility and a general trust in others, Healers are often seen as sincere and generous. However the Healer has a refreshing impulsiveness about them, they tend to dislike too many rules and regulations and can be casual and whimsical. And you? What results did you get, Dr. Bob Moog? |
Nov 9, 2015 2:26 PM
#144
Cartox said: And you? What results did you get, Dr. Bob Moog? Hehe, I sense a fellow music enthusiast. I just took the test myself: Neuroticism: 80 Extraversion: 21 Openness to Experience: 85 Agreeableness: 17 Conscientousness: 6 Your Personality Type is The Designer (RIOGS) Designers are emotionally reactive, which means that they experience their emotions strongly and can be very passionate., however also have a higher tendency to experience emotions such as anxiety, anger and depression. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Designer can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Designer enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a healthy skepticism of the motives of others, and a belief in justice and being self made, sometimes the Designer can come across as guarded or intimidating. However the Designer has a refreshing impulsiveness about them, they tend to dislike too many rules and regulations and can be casual and whimsical. More Moog traits: |
Nov 9, 2015 4:31 PM
#145
cool test Your Personality Type Is The Healer (BIOAS) Healers are emotionally balanced, which means that they are less prone to depression and are able to cope well with feelings of anxiety, anger and vulnerability. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Healer can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Healer enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a sense of social responsibility and a general trust in others, Healers are often seen as sincere and generous. However the Healer has a refreshing impulsiveness about them, they tend to dislike too many rules and regulations and can be casual and whimsical. Neuroticism: 26 Extraversion: 22 Openness to Experience: 95 Agreeableness: 64 Conscientiousness: 19 You are a calm person who is considered almost fearless by some, however you often resist any cravings or urges that you have, but sometimes you give in. You tend to feel overwhelmed by, and therefore actively avoid, large crowds. You often need privacy and time for yourself. Generally you are not considered to be an emotional person, however you are aware of and in touch with your emotions. You see no need for pretence or manipulation when dealing with others and are therefore candid, frank and sincere. People find it relatively easy to relate to you, however you will help others if they are in need. If people ask for too much of your time you feel that they are imposing on you. You have a strong sense of duty and obligation, and feel a moral obligation to do the right thing. |
MurauNov 9, 2015 4:42 PM
Nov 10, 2015 1:35 AM
#146
Moog said: Test. Your Personality Type Is The Teacher (BEOAD) Teachers are emotionally balanced, which means that they are less prone to depression and are able to cope well with feelings of anxiety, anger and vulnerability. With a good sense of social awareness, they tend to be outgoing and enthusiastic, with a tendency in groups to talk and assert themselves. The Teacher enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a sense of social responsibility and a general trust in others, Teachers are often seen as sincere and generous. However the Teacher generally has good self discipline and is recognized as being able to plan and think ahead. 4.65% of people are Teachers You are a calm person who is considered almost fearless by some, however you very rarely feel depressed and are usually in a good frame of mind. You enjoy some excitment and risk taking in your life. You prefer facts over fantasy and are more interested in what is happening in the real word. You are tender hearted and compassionate, feeling the pain of others vicariously and are easily moved to pity, however you believe that a certain amount of deception in social relationships is necessary. You are guarded in new relationships and less willing to openly reveal the whole truth about yourself. Neuroticism. You strive hard to achieve excellence. Your drive to be recognized as successful keeps you on track toward your lofty goals. You often have a strong sense of direction in life, but may sometimes be too single-minded and obsessed with your work. Extraversion. Openness To Experience. Agreeableness. Conscientiousness. |
Nov 10, 2015 3:08 AM
#147
Bernkastel said: Your Personality Type Is The Prodigy (RIOGD) Prodigies are emotionally reactive, which means that they experience their emotions strongly and can be very passionate., however also have a higher tendency to experience emotions such as anxiety, anger and depression. Due to their independence and reserve, sometimes the Prodigy can be perceived as arrogant or unfriendly, however this is merely because they don't require the same level of social stimulation or interaction that others may seek. The Prodigy enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a healthy skepticism of the motives of others, and a belief in justice and being self made, sometimes the Prodigy can come across as guarded or intimidating. However the Prodigy generally has good self discipline and is recognized as being able to plan and think ahead. What's the point of this? It's literally 5 sentences that describe each of the 5 axis each lol. Every personality profile is made of 5 of the 10 global sentences. Since it gives no additional information compared to the questions you answered, my verdict is that this personality classification is pointless. But you typed as "Prodigy" so that ought to make you happy. |
Nov 10, 2015 3:14 AM
#148
Bernkastel said: DejWo said: But you typed as "Prodigy" so that ought to make you happy. Rewards have diminishing returns right? Prodigy is a boring adjective, I'd rather be insulted. Why not just argue here on MAL or 4Chan then? :P |
Nov 10, 2015 3:21 AM
#149
So many cool tests! on that new one I scored. Your Personality Type Is The Teacher (BEOAD) Teachers are emotionally balanced, which means that they are less prone to depression and are able to cope well with feelings of anxiety, anger and vulnerability. With a good sense of social awareness, they tend to be outgoing and enthusiastic, with a tendency in groups to talk and assert themselves. The Teacher enjoys a good balance between the real world and fantasy, they are mostly aware of and in touch with their emotions. Being open-minded to new and unusual ideas helps them to interact with the world. With a sense of social responsibility and a general trust in others, Teachers are often seen as sincere and generous. However the Teacher generally has good self discipline and is recognized as being able to plan and think ahead. |
Nov 10, 2015 3:23 AM
#150
Apparently I have depression. |
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