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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Seriously, cute mini Zoro is cute. :) But yay he's taken a step closer to becoming world's strongest swordsmasn. :) |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Zoro is awesome. |
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| Good heavens Zoro is epic. For all the flaws this show has, sometimes they're able to perfectly translate Oda-sensei's epicosity from the page to the screen and this is one of those eps. "What are you gonna cut next, diamond?" "Naw, that'd just be a waste of diamond." SO PINP. |
| Definitely one of my favorite one piece episodes, at least it's in my top 10, the fight, both characters and the dialogue... it was all epic. |
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| I just find it funny that Zoro can only do what he wants to do when he's at the brink of death :P This episode was so entertaining. Zoro sure knows how to have a brutal yet epic fight. |
| Zoro's battle was the best out of them all. I just hate how they forget Luffy for so many episodes. Now we have to wait for the return of Luffy! (Ok, they haven't said that yet... But there can't be One Piece without Luffy can there?) |
| Zoro's probably the strongest next to Luffy. I'm impressed. 5/5 |
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| Zoro's shishou is so cool ^_^ |
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| definitely epic! |
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| Omg Zoro is so cool, I love his fights! It was really nice to see him "power up" through the battle but I don't like it he always get cut up so much :( I mean can't he win (even once) without losing like half of his blood? :( |
| Zoro is the best tank ever!)) |
reaght said: zoro is probably the only one of the straw hats who could have defeaten Das Bones Yeah that's probably true, I mean who else could cut steel? |
| okay zoro is seriously too cool. he had me cracking up at his wit, wincing at him tanking through all the injuries, and inwardly whooping at his epic swordsmanship. at the same time. |
| I didn't really get how Zoro was able to cut steel, he's now able to sense stuff better but....yeah lol Zoro seems actually more powerful than Luffy at this point. |
| So how did he cut steel? But epic fight is epic :D So many episode without Luffy! |
shinki7 said: So how did he cut steel? He's Zoro, no other explanation is needed! |
| his tactic was pretty confusing... but my baby won the battle in one badass way c: |
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| -Zoro is Officially my Number 1 Swordsman Character <3 |
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| Zoro's epicness as usual. I loved this bunch of individual fights a lot. The ending has some awful Engrish, though. |
| I've still got goosebumps. That was so epic! - Hey, how's it going, Zoro? - Same ol', same ol', throwing buildings at the bad guys. And is it against Zoro's code of honour to fight while not being half-dead? 5/5 |
| It was pretty epic. Throwing buildings at the enemy :P And he can cut steel... I bet there will be someone with a diamond skin devil fruit! |
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GodotCoffee said: I didn't really get how Zoro was able to cut steel, he's now able to sense stuff better but....yeah lol Zoro seems actually more powerful than Luffy at this point. I've been thinking this for most of the series. I mean yeah, he is only a more powerful opponent because he's using swords, but then again, Luffy is using a devil fruit. So nevermind. If you took away all weapons and devil fruit, Sanji would probably be the most powerful fighter of the crew (minus the fact that they haxed this episode by showing Zoro holding a chunk of a building). Anyway, Ironically enough, Zoro seems to be durable than Luffy half the time. Weird. But yeah, I don't like how they're displaying Zoro to be physically powerful. Shouldn't that should be Chopper's specialty when it comes to fighting? I mean, give Chopper something unique. He can analyze, but it seems that every crew member except Luffy can. Either way, this battle didn't entertain me much. Outcome was overly expected, and the thrown in flashbacks made it "meh". Glad to see Zoro has suddenly haxed himself to be even stronger. We need to see more Luffy now. This whole dry streak of not seeing him is annoying me... |
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shinki7 said: So how did he cut steel? But epic fight is epic :D So many episode without Luffy! I'm guessing that being able to hear the breath of all things is similar to the mystic eyes of death perception. Basically how the eyes of death work, is that the person who has them, can see the weaknesses of all things (they appear as lines that the person can trace). With Zoro he can hear or "sense" it I guess. |
| I understood it as imposing your will into the sword. He can swing it as hard as he wants but if he doesn't will it to cut the leaf/paper then it won't cut it, but if he wills the sword to cut through steel he can do it. I'm not sure how that translates into feeling the breath or whatever of the objects or cutting through nothing. |
| How is this even a good battle? Zoro was getting beaten up for almost the entire time (his opponent was more impressive) and then he had a flashback and gained some sort of knowledge and can cut steel? lolok. Super lame. The other battles were much better. |
| Zoro is simply EPIC! |
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| Zoro the best! |
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kenshin_sama said: +1shinki7 said: So how did he cut steel? He's Zoro, no other explanation is needed! |
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| zoro ftw. hes my favourite male character |
| The lack of appreciation for this episode astounds me. TripleSRank said: Whoa, Zoro. That's definitely my favorite fight of his so far. I liked the tie-in to his past and especially the focus on his internal experience. That's not something we see often in One Piece. At the edge of death, everything becomes silent save for his heartbeat, and it is at this point that he discovered how to perceive the "essence" of different elements. Very cool. This is the first straight-up fight that Zoro has had so much trouble with, excluding Mihawk. Buggy was literally immune to cutting; he fought Buggy's henchman wounded; he didn't have all of his swords when he fought the Mewban Brothers; he was wounded when fighting Hachi... Mr. 1 is the first man to nearly defeat Zoro when Zoro was at no inherent disadvantage (again, not counting Mihawk). Also, this is the first major improvement in technique that we've seen from Zoro so far. He's a bit better than a charging bull now. For those wondering how he cut steel... TripleSRank said: "The strongest blade is the one which has the power to protect what you wish to protect, and to cut what you wish to cut. A sword that harms everything it touches is, to me, not a sword at all." In other words, he's telling Zoro to look at his sword as an extension of his will. He used paper to illustrate because paper is something that could be cut easily- but, since he doesn't want to cut the paper, no amount of swinging at it will indeed cut it. Part of this is coming back to technique versus power. Zoro has always focused on power, yet no amount of power can defeat technique. That is why he could never defeat Kunia, and that is why he is almost hopelessly outclassed by Mihawk, who possesses both. (That actually makes me question what Mihawk meant when he said he possessed the strongest blade in the world: There may be a double meaning.) Zoro had to stop focusing on power and "charging" to notice the "life" in everything around him. If he cannot perceive the life, then he cannot take said life (which is to say, he cannot cut it). It is no coincidence that he learned to cut steel with a one-sword technique. He needs to be able to use his sword as an extension of his will, rather than merely swinging it. I'm not sure if my explanation made any more sense, but that's how I understood it. On another note, this development (like many others) is very interesting in hindsight. For those wondering what makes this development interesting in the long run (major spoilers): |
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| Great episode! The build up to that final slash was fenomenal, nice flashback too. |
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| Holy shit that was cool! Zoro continues to be my favorite character of the bunch. |
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Zore getting power becoming stronger EPIC |
| Badass Zoro is so badass as usual!! |
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| That was pretty awesome. Zoro always gets so wrecked in his battles though...all that blood loss! Was definitely weird seeing him wreck someone with just one sword drawn though. |
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| DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN ZORO! |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Zoro is officialy a cheater, first he takes like 0 HP from the boss with each hit, then he levels up in the middle of the battle and then one-hit kills the boss. I CALL HACKS |
| The plot armor is strong in this arc for the Strawhats like dam, I think Zoro is badass but come on now. He was clearly out for the count after Mr. 1's attack on him while he couldn't defend himself. |
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| I think plot armor has to be in context to the character. Someone like Zoro has constantly shown that his endurance and resolve allows his flesh body to take much more than steel could. Or in the case of Arlong, much more than something that much superior to a human could. In both cases these superior bodied creatures were scared when they saw how long Zoro could go on. I distinctly remember Arlong being scared as hell when he saw that Zoro was fighting him to the degree he was with the Mihawk wound nearly cutting him in half. When he noticed he knew that he had to kill Zoro right then cause he did not want to deal with him at full strength. A fight like Nami's where to win she got a weapon that was never seen before right before it, Ms. Doublefinger went completely easy on her and didn't try to kill her or defend against her in a serious way the whole fight is much more plot armor, or perhaps convenience than something like Zoro pertaining to what he's been characterized as. The second he got up and dodged those rocks I knew there was no 2nd episode in this fight, I knew for a fact Mr.1 was going to be cut up in one slash. Zoro is husbando. I loved this fight honestly. The banter between both Mr.1 and Zoro having some form of respect and rivalry that ended with Mr.1 happily accepting his loss and chuckling at Zoro's remark about cutting a diamond being a waste was a delight. The one thing that bothered me was that I didn't fully understand what he had learned that gave him the ability to win, but upon reading @TripleSRank's amazing post I'm absolutely happy with everything that occurred. He learned a lesson on technique and willpower rather than raw strength and resolve. It partially came out due to him being so near death that everything slowed down and he was able to realize. That's awesome and it's probably one of the most beneficial things he's learned all anime. Although I still prefer Usopp and Choppers fight this one is easily the second best in this arc so far and one of the best overall(even if it was a little too anime for my taste with the cutting buildings and all lol). Great new ED. "SHINING RAY, FIND A BRAAAANNND NEW WAY~" |
| Now the prime focus is gonna be to stop Crocodile,Nami Usopp Sanji their fight is done but Zoro's fight tho I recon he's gonna surpass and go on another level yo. |
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| The injuries Zoro suffered throughout the duration of this fight were horrendous. Having a whole building crumble over him, getting his stomach sliced around a hundred times by a drill made out of blades in addition to the other cuts in his body... As sturdy as he is, I hope that he won't have to exert himself any further than that. I'll chalk up his sudden mastery of finding the rhythm of things as a case of showing unparalled concentration. |
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| That was hype as fuck. This is why Zoro is one of my favorites |
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