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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So... in Magi 3 years = A millennium.
Seems legit. Damn, Sinbad. All dat technology.
From the looks of it, Sinbad next chappy.
Poor Alibaba, lol. I missed his face and his over-exaggerated reactions.

Not sure if allowed to post the pages, so I'll just roughly summarise it:

Alibaba borrows a flying broom stick magic tool from Yunan and makes his way to his destination. He complains that it's far slower than when in Djinn equip(which he can't do cos he doesn't have Amon with him). He remembers what Yunan told him before he left - that the world has change immensely and Sinbad has created a 'utopia'. He lands in Reim and starts walking, to save magoi. In the streets, he sees that the citizens are using magic carpets and magic tools to carry things around and go about everyday life, like it was normal.
He asks an old man for a boat to Partevia(the country where 'Partevia's Sindria Company' are based), to which the old man says that only peasants use ships and boats to move about, calling it 'old fashioned'.
Instead, Alibaba has to go onto what the old man called a 'flying ship'. Alibaba arrives in Partevia, after making weird and comical faces at he ship's speed ofc.
He walks around and sees skyscrapers, elevators/lifts and bright lights even tho it's night time. He uses a lift to get up, where he finally arrives in front of the Sindria Company HQ.
Ofc, per usual, que his reactions to all the high tech.
The last bit of text said
Sinbad… Just what sort of amazing world did he make??


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I'm expecting to see Suit!Sinbad next chapter. Oh the hype.
I have to wonder tho, with the tech and what not, why are they still wearing old-fashioned clothes? 0_0
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mira-nyan said:
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So... in Magi 3 years = A millennium.
Seems legit. Damn, Sinbad. All dat technology.
From the looks of it, Sinbad next chappy.
Poor Alibaba, lol. I missed his face and his over-exaggerated reactions.

Not sure if allowed to post the pages, so I'll just roughly summarise it:

Alibaba borrows a flying broom stick magic tool from Yunan and makes his way to his destination. He complains that it's far slower than when in Djinn equip(which he can't do cos he doesn't have Amon with him). He remembers what Yunan told him before he left - that the world has change immensely and Sinbad has created a 'utopia'. He lands in Reim and starts walking, to save magoi. In the streets, he sees that the citizens are using magic carpets and magic tools to carry things around and go about everyday life, like it was normal.
He asks an old man for a boat to Partevia(the country where 'Partevia's Sindria Company' are based), to which the old man says that only peasants use ships and boats to move about, calling it 'old fashioned'.
Instead, Alibaba has to go onto what the old man called a 'flying ship'. Alibaba arrives in Partevia, after making weird and comical faces at he ship's speed ofc.
He walks around and sees skyscrapers, elevators/lifts and bright lights even tho it's night time. He uses a lift to get up, where he finally arrives in front of the Sindria Company HQ.
Ofc, per usual, que his reactions to all the high tech.
The last bit of text said
Sinbad… Just what sort of amazing world did he make??


Source:


I'm expecting to see Suit!Sinbad next chapter. Oh the hype.
I have to wonder tho, with the tech and what not, why are they still wearing old-fashioned clothes? 0_0


Wow technology has come far ....
 
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I had the exact same reaction as Alibaba lol.....My mind has been blown
 
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Where does they got all this mana ?
looking at the magical tools and facility they use it must be bigger than magnostadt mana facility 2 years ago,

Now they did say about all metal vessel has been confiscated yes ?
i wonder if they use the "Djinn" as the mana source to support all that facility.
 
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Is this the entire chapter? Damn it felt so short.

MeinKaiser said:
Where does they got all this mana ?
looking at the magical tools and facility they use it must be bigger than magnostadt mana facility 2 years ago,

Now they did say about all metal vessel has been confiscated yes ?
i wonder if they use the "Djinn" as the mana source to support all that facility.


Good point, i was asking myself the same thing, since we KNOW that the Utopia of Sinbad will have some type of flaw to generate conflict
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ItalodeM said:


Is this the entire chapter? Damn it felt so short.

MeinKaiser said:
Where does they got all this mana ?
looking at the magical tools and facility they use it must be bigger than magnostadt mana facility 2 years ago,

Now they did say about all metal vessel has been confiscated yes ?
i wonder if they use the "Djinn" as the mana source to support all that facility.


Good point, i was asking myself the same thing, since we KNOW that the Utopia of Sinbad will have some type of flaw to generate conflict


*cough*Terrorists*cough*

You just know that Kogyouku is gonna get introduced as one.
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Magi has gone full scifi.

 
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Now I'm just waiting for my mechs. I loved this chapter mostly cause one of my favorite anime genres is sci-fi and my reaction was the same as Alibaba's I mean I knew the world was going to be different, but not THAT different.
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Lol how long is 3 years in the Magi world? Pretty crazy technology jump there.

Sinbad next chapter? I hope so. Hope Alibaba gets his metal vessel just in case shit hits the fan.
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Wow, that was pretty gutsy of Ohtaka. To be honest though, I feel kind of betrayed. One of the reasons I loved Magi so much was because if helped fill the severe lack of historical action-fantasy type manga out there ): The difference in aesthetics is going to bug the hell out of me, with a futuristic dys/utopia Sindria Co building and a Victorian-steampunk airship while everything else still remains in 800 CE. Not sure how this will play out.
 
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Wow, that was pretty gutsy of Ohtaka. To be honest though, I feel kind of betrayed. One of the reasons I loved Magi so much was because if helped fill the severe lack of historical action-fantasy type manga out there ): The difference in aesthetics is going to bug the hell out of me, with a futuristic dys/utopia Sindria Co building and a Victorian-steampunk airship while everything else still remains in 800 CE. Not sure how this will play out.


yeah i'm not a big fan of it as well, the cellphone type of thing bugged me a lot but i'm just way too curious to see what happened so i'm ignoring it for now
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ItalodeM said:
alicieux said:
Wow, that was pretty gutsy of Ohtaka. To be honest though, I feel kind of betrayed. One of the reasons I loved Magi so much was because if helped fill the severe lack of historical action-fantasy type manga out there ): The difference in aesthetics is going to bug the hell out of me, with a futuristic dys/utopia Sindria Co building and a Victorian-steampunk airship while everything else still remains in 800 CE. Not sure how this will play out.


yeah i'm not a big fan of it as well, the cellphone type of thing bugged me a lot but i'm just way too curious to see what happened so i'm ignoring it for now




There was a cellphone?
 
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>Shell
>Electronic phone

Pick one, lol. It's a magic tool, not a phone made from science-technology. I like what she did there, actually.
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Nov 4, 2015 12:52 PM

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We Sci-fi now O_o
 
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>Shell
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Pic one, lol. It's a magic tool, not a phone made from science-technology. I like what she did there, actually.


And where exactly i said "eletronic phone", OF COURSE it IS a magic tool, BUT it is basically the "cellphone" of this world
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ItalodeM said:
mira-nyan said:


>Shell
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Pic one, lol. It's a magic tool, not a phone made from science-technology. I like what she did there, actually.


And where exactly i said "eletronic phone", OF COURSE it IS a magic tool, BUT it is basically the "cellphone" of this world


Cellphone = Mobile phona = Electronic phone.

Doesn't take a genius. Makes more sense now that you've explained it.
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Nov 4, 2015 7:08 PM

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I was not entirely expecting the Sindria Trading Company Headquarters to look like that LOL

If I was Alibaba, I'd have a similar reaction at first glance too.
 
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That escalated quickly.


My reaction...
 
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Quite the industralisation magi has undergone haha

pretty trippy actually, I would be as surprised as alibaba with airships and flying carpets everywhere




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They've evolved more in 3 years than us in 100 years. :s
 
Nov 4, 2015 11:19 PM

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Did Sinbad start using Mako Reactors?
 
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Pretty impressive to see the country evolved in such a short time
 
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Next chapter, Magi is invaded by the Harusame pirates and forbid swords, so Alibaba is going to use a wooden sword in order to establish his own yorouzuya. First he will get a small guy as main partner and then a strong redhair girl

Wtff!!! This is bullshit! Someome said in last chapter that timeskips are a perfect way to ruin a good manga, so much knowleadge...
 
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my boy sinbad has changed the fucking world :)
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Nov 5, 2015 1:23 AM
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LMAO, my face completely synced with Alibaba's throughout the whole chapter. XD

Technology, bitches!
 
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Mind blown lol. Hope the explanation will be good.
Keep on moving forward
 
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The technological advances are insane! WTF
 
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Where would Alibaba, Morgianna and Hakuryuu possibly be? And we don't know anything about the whereabouts of Kouen and co.either... I mean, did they escape?
I'm seriously worried about the metal vessels though.
 
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So Magi went from old arabic to full Sci-Fi crap.. don't like where this is going.
 
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Not even 100 years wisdom prepares you for all that technology...
Anyways, I'm glad to see Alibaba's personality hasn't lost the silliness, but I do hope to see some sort of development in his character. Guess the meeting with Sinbad will be a chance to gauge that.
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Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
 
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What kinda shittery was that lol.

Inb4 he finds Sinbad in full suit n tie outfit saying like have a seat Alibaba while watching outside from his office.

Not liking this start tbh.
 
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I lol'd after seeing all those people taking a magic carpet ride. It really is a whole new world. <3
 
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i liked this when it was MAGICAL , i know that they run everything with magoi but still , now magoi is no different that electricity !!
and is it just me or did Alibaba imagine that Aladdin would have boobs ,when he was thinking how his friend would look like , are those boobs on Aladdin ? looool
 
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the fuck

suddenly going full sci-fi mode? o.o

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well.. it's the final arc after all. so nothing like going off the rail with your story when you're at the end stretch.. right? lol. smh tbh.
 
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and is it just me or did Alibaba imagine that Aladdin would have boobs ,when he was thinking how his friend would look like , are those boobs on Aladdin ? looool

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Sarrora said:
and is it just me or did Alibaba imagine that Aladdin would have boobs ,when he was thinking how his friend would look like , are those boobs on Aladdin ? looool

That's Morgiana


Pretty much, you need to remember that although 3 years passed, for Alibaba it's been over a hundred of years since he last saw them.

Also I can't help but believe that most of this technology come from the Alma Toran era. It always seemed more prosperous than Magi's world. This means that Sinbad is using David's knowledge to accelerate the growth of the world.
Sinbad probably think he can control the world but I'm pretty sure the reason why Alladin and co disappeared is because they think it'll eventually end like Alma Toran did.
 
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Classic Alibaba...his reactions are pure gold xD

It's crazy how much has change in just THREE years, i guess only a man like Sinbad could pull something like that.

I don't know what Shinobu has in store for us but i'm enjoying the ride haha.
 
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Araneae said:

That's Morgiana


Pretty much, you need to remember that although 3 years passed, for Alibaba it's been over a hundred of years since he last saw them.

Also I can't help but believe that most of this technology come from the Alma Toran era. It always seemed more prosperous than Magi's world. This means that Sinbad is using David's knowledge to accelerate the growth of the world.


He used Magnostadt as the base/foundation of all this. Tho Alma Toran was probably a part of it.


Sinbad probably think he can control the world but I'm pretty sure the reason why Alladin and co disappeared is because they think it'll eventually end like Alma Toran did.

He doesn't want to control the world; he just wants a world with no wars. Making it more advanced is just a stepping stone.
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Ugh. Not liking these developments too much.
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mira-nyan said:
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Pretty much, you need to remember that although 3 years passed, for Alibaba it's been over a hundred of years since he last saw them.

Also I can't help but believe that most of this technology come from the Alma Toran era. It always seemed more prosperous than Magi's world. This means that Sinbad is using David's knowledge to accelerate the growth of the world.


He used Magnostadt as the base/foundation of all this. Tho Alma Toran was probably a part of it.


Sinbad probably think he can control the world but I'm pretty sure the reason why Alladin and co disappeared is because they think it'll eventually end like Alma Toran did.

He doesn't want to control the world; he just wants a world with no wars. Making it more advanced is just a stepping stone.


In the end that's controlling people, he wants to impose his view about how the world should be unto everyone and anyone disagreeing with it is an enemy that must be removed.

Sinbad always was the type of character to control others for his own ideal.
 
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I'm hoping it was all a dream LOL
 
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LOL all these people hating and I'm just like "I can dig it" XD
 
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In the end that's controlling people, he wants to impose his view about how the world should be unto everyone and anyone disagreeing with it is an enemy that must be removed.


Well, no. His dream is actually quite mainstream. As you can see, he has not imposed his ideal from everyone. Aladdin said it himself; if he stayed near Sinbad too long, he'd be N A T U R A L L Y drawn to him and W A N T to follow him.
The way you've completely understood such an important character is baffling. Hakuryuu himself started a war, in which Sinbad joined. He stopped the war, without having too many casualties - everyone else wanted the least amount of casualties too - and Kouen wasn't even killed. Hakuryuu started a war and did Sinbad dispose of him? No.

There, you paragraph is moot. You clearly don't understand a grey character. -_-




Sinbad always was the type of character to control others for his own ideal.

Nope, not at all.
If you're talking about Zepar, then still no. He only got to see what she saw - and could only take over her body for a few seconds, in which all he could do was speak to Alibaba, with no evil intentions.
Ofc, his methods are questionable - tricking someone that obviously has feelings for him is underhanded, but if you read Sinbad no Bouken, you'd understand why he does that.
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alicieux said:
Wow, that was pretty gutsy of Ohtaka. To be honest though, I feel kind of betrayed. One of the reasons I loved Magi so much was because if helped fill the severe lack of historical action-fantasy type manga out there ): The difference in aesthetics is going to bug the hell out of me, with a futuristic dys/utopia Sindria Co building and a Victorian-steampunk airship while everything else still remains in 800 CE. Not sure how this will play out.



Well, in a sense the Magi manga DID play out the historical-fiction genre, and simply put, it has gone full circle:
olden times (separate Empires) - three superpowers (Reim, Kou, Seven Seas Alliance) - state-of-the-art magitek and a global economy (International Trade)
 
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LOL all these people hating and I'm just like "I can dig it" XD


Magitek-punk, hell yeah!
 
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In the end that's controlling people, he wants to impose his view about how the world should be unto everyone and anyone disagreeing with it is an enemy that must be removed.


Well, no. His dream is actually quite mainstream. As you can see, he has not imposed his ideal from everyone. Aladdin said it himself; if he stayed near Sinbad too long, he'd be N A T U R A L L Y drawn to him and W A N T to follow him.
The way you've completely understood such an important character is baffling. Hakuryuu himself started a war, in which Sinbad joined. He stopped the war, without having too many casualties - everyone else wanted the least amount of casualties too - and Kouen wasn't even killed. Hakuryuu started a war and did Sinbad dispose of him? No.

There, you paragraph is moot. You clearly don't understand a grey character. -_-




Sinbad always was the type of character to control others for his own ideal.

Nope, not at all.
If you're talking about Zepar, then still no. He only got to see what she saw - and could only take over her body for a few seconds, in which all he could do was speak to Alibaba, with no evil intentions.
Ofc, his methods are questionable - tricking someone that obviously has feelings for him is underhanded, but if you read Sinbad no Bouken, you'd understand why he does that.


Actually what is baffling is that you think that because something is right or done with right intention then it is good and that the end justify the means.
You said it yourself, he has a tendency to draw people near him. He does not control people with power, he control them with love.
He manipulate people by making them think they are doing it by their own belief but they are dancing in his palm.

I read Sinbad no Bouken and it seems you understood absolutely nothing from the Madaura arc, you only see what's on the surface without caring about what's happening deep down. This whole situation is a rehearsal of when Sinbad filled the slaves with hopes, nourished their desire to be free only so they would revolt, crush his enemy and made him free.

Sinbad seem nice. He probably have good intentions deeps down but he's the same as what he despises and that's why he's fallen. He always thought he was the center of the world, that everything moved according to his will and that in the end he would never lose. That's not without reason since the world is actually moving by his will since he's an individual that has been chosen by the rukh. He's probably the human who was the closest to Solomon or even Ill Ilah before they reached the status of a god.

Now that Alibaba has come back, I wonder about that.
 
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Actually what is baffling is that you think that because something is right or done with right intention then it is good and that the end justify the means.


I'm not. And you may not even have gotten my point.


You said it yourself, he has a tendency to draw people near him. He does not control people with power, he control them with love.


Haha, hilarious. No. That, sir/miss, is called C H A R I S M A. It doesn't need love, or hatred, or even a relationship. That's his natural charisma that wants people to n a t u r a l l y become his ally or chase his ambition with him.


He manipulate people by making them think they are doing it by their own belief but they are dancing in his palm.


Nope.

I read Sinbad no Bouken and it seems you understood absolutely nothing from the Madaura arc,

My point is based on that, tho.


you only see what's on the surface without caring about what's happening deep down.


Well, no. If I only saw the surface, I wouldn't consider him a grey character, now would I?


This whole situation is a rehearsal of when Sinbad filled the slaves with hopes, nourished their desire to be free only so they would revolt, crush his enemy and made him free.


Nope, he didn't fill them with hope, he broke their hope. He admits it himself that, like Madaura, he broke their spirit and rebuilt it in his own way.
Wow, so you don't think he genuinely wanted to free them?
Even tho we know that he hates slavery and doesn't want poor kids to be shipped and become like Fatima?
Seriously, dude, I don't know what to tell you.
He did what he did, as it killed two birds with one stone - he's free, the kids are free. He now owns them and released them as slaves.
Jesus Christ, you sure put him in the dark light, don't you? Ofc, the latest arc is the arc he loses his chivalric and straightforward-head-first methods of achieving his dreams, but he's not outright murdering, pillaging, e.t.c to gain his wish.
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Oh god damn, industrialization hit them hard, holy crap.
Even the United States never went through this big of an industrialization or a modernization at that, especially in just THREE YEARS!
 
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