| #qualitythread |
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ExTamplier said: so, you are on which side?#qualitythread |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| I think they are. But I'm a socially stunted shut in, so... |
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absentminded said: A little bit of both.ExTamplier said: so, you are on which side?#qualitythread |
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| Short answer: yes. |
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| 2D>3D Even real life people who have goddess tier beauty like Kanna Hashimoto and Nana Mizuki usually can't beat their 2D likenesses. |
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| This woulda made an interesting poll. I would guess 2D would be an outright winner on MAL. I don't know about 'technically' more appealing, it's the technical bit they lose out on - Can you enjoy a nice cup of tea made by your Waifu? But yes, for what it's worth, fantasy is going to win out over reality every time, probably. |
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| No. If you probably knew how the inside of a vagina felt you wouldn't come up with this sh!t |
| Of course they are |
| "Appealing"...well, everyone loves realism, the problem is determining what should be realistic and how it should be realistic. We find anime/cartoon characters beautiful because we accept their styles. If anime/cartoon were real, they would be disturbing. Anime/cartoon characters are beautiful because of its art style, we accept its surrealism. We need to "convert" them into real people in order to find them beautiful in the real world. Realistic characters are beautiful not only in their own universe but others too (2D, 3D and reality). In contrast, realistic characters can't be as moe/kawaii/cute/loli/ecchi as some people want them to be. They have to be realistic enough to not be a "monster".But, they still can be tender, warm, funny, passionate...there are a lot of feelings moe/kawaii/ecchi/loli doesn't explore. |
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bakanonbaka said: This woulda made an interesting poll. I would guess 2D would be an outright winner on MAL. I don't know about 'technically' more appealing, it's the technical bit they lose out on - Can you enjoy a nice cup of tea made by your Waifu? But yes, for what it's worth, fantasy is going to win out over reality every time, probably. And this is why this could have been an interesting discussion. This is actually the first time - but I'm new, and not looking into every topic - that I am somewhat disappointed by MAL community, wasting this could-actually-be-interesting topic to "let's-spam-the-hell-out-of-it". :( DuskSunDawn said: ... I am not sure what exactly you wanted to get across (very late night here), but appreciate it anyway as as an attempt to actually discuss this, and provide examples and such. :thumbsup: ------------------ on topic - first thing that came to my mind was WALL-E and EVA/ EVE. Those are not anime, but 3d, and to me they are very appealing. I'd go as far and say WALL-E is as much the legitimate 28th century successor (moe version :D) to Donald Duck as EVE/ EVA is the legitimate 28th century successor to (Core Design's) Lara Croft (3d herself, yet very oldschool 3d). And yet both are much more than just that - and totally adorable. Just in case you don't know WALL-E/ EVA (EVE) This is one of my preferred desktop backgrounds : EVE (reminding me of "oldschool" Lara) shoot first, ask question later! :D [spoiler]  [spoiler] |
BannoBunka_snorkOct 31, 2015 9:49 PM
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| I don't think there's anything inherently more appealing about fictional or real life characters. I personally do like anime characters better on the whole but it varies greatly with how much I like the art style... I generally don't find IRL people attractive that other people seem to think are hot (especially when it comes to things like the Top 100 Sexiest Men lists, the vast majority of them are just bleh to me; I'm more likely to find women and androgynous-looking people attractive though). I've also heard some folks say that there are personality traits that they like in anime characters that they would hate in people IRL. |
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| No. |
| Obviously. They're drawn to be bombshells and have a personality as well. Unless you're a 7/10 in real, they're better. |
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DuskSunDawn said: "Appealing"...well, everyone loves realism, the problem is determining what should be realistic and how it should be realistic. We find anime/cartoon characters beautiful because we accept their styles. If anime/cartoon were real, they would be disturbing. Anime/cartoon characters are beautiful because of its art style, we accept its surrealism. We need to "convert" them into real people in order to find them beautiful in the real world. Realistic characters are beautiful not only in their own universe but others too (2D, 3D and reality). In contrast, realistic characters can't be as moe/kawaii/cute/loli/ecchi as some people want them to be. They have to be realistic enough to not be a "monster".But, they still can be tender, warm, funny, passionate...there are a lot of feelings moe/kawaii/ecchi/loli doesn't explore. They look disgusting exactly because they were converted. If they were given physical form exactly as they look in anime, then I am pretty sure people would prefer them. UnhappyRefrain said: Yeah, I don't get some people's taste. Maybe, anime just raises your standards. The littlest of flaws or differences will annoy you.I generally don't find IRL people attractive that other people seem to think are hot (especially when it comes to things like the Top 100 Sexiest Men lists, the vast majority of them are just bleh to me; However, I do still find some people attractive. I think I've come across 3 10/10s in my entire life and a few 9s. It's just rare to find that perfect person. Extreme3708 said: No. If you probably knew how the inside of a vagina felt you wouldn't come up with this sh!t Once again, it's a question purely of physical appearance. lol |
Extreme3708 said: No. If you probably knew how the inside of a vagina felt you wouldn't come up with this sh!t Foolishness, mai waifu is above such carnal desires. |
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sadpwner said: Fintan said: That's true, but there's too many things that 2D doesn't offer. Even something as simple as holding hands or a hug, that already would overpower them not being flawless like anime characters. I am talking purely about physical appearance so that's irrelevant in this topic. Well.... You didn't make it clear at all that it was ONLY about their "physical" appearance(pretty shallow OP...) You said their "appeal", and are even arguing in other comments about how if they were transferred into real life just as they are in anime "most would prefer them".... Yet what i said is irrelevant... I don't even agree that their physical appearance is better. If we're comparing good looking characters with good looking people... That's the fair way to do it, you can't compare ugly or even average people with great looking characters, you'd have to compare them to the ugly-average anime characters... Eye's Overall |
FintanNov 1, 2015 6:46 AM
Fintan said: sadpwner said: I am talking purely about physical appearance so that's irrelevant in this topic. Well.... You didn't make it clear at all that it was ONLY about their "physical" appearance(pretty shallow OP...) You said their "appeal", and are even arguing in other comments about how if they were transferred into real life just as they are in anime "most would prefer them".... Yet what i said is irrelevant... I don't even agree that their physical appearance is better. If we're comparing good looking characters with good looking people... That's the fair way to do it, you can't compare ugly or even average people with great looking characters, you'd have to compare them to the ugly-average anime characters... Eye's Overall OP isn't asking what you'd prefer he's asking what's more attractive and honestly, i enjoy looking at this  much more than at this  |
omfgplzstopNov 1, 2015 7:31 AM
Rinth said: Every opinion is not equal. Some opinions are simply made out of shit. nasuverse > your favorite anime |
| not really. I mean, I'm not attracted to 2D in the slightest. |
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omfgplzstop said: Fintan said: Well.... You didn't make it clear at all that it was ONLY about their "physical" appearance(pretty shallow OP...) You said their "appeal", and are even arguing in other comments about how if they were transferred into real life just as they are in anime "most would prefer them".... Yet what i said is irrelevant... I don't even agree that their physical appearance is better. If we're comparing good looking characters with good looking people... That's the fair way to do it, you can't compare ugly or even average people with great looking characters, you'd have to compare them to the ugly-average anime characters... Eye's Overall OP isn't asking what you'd prefer he's asking what's more attractive and honestly, i enjoy looking at this "OP isn't asking what you'd prefer he's asking what's more attractive"..... I answered both... I think you guys fapping to cartoons is starting hurt your brains. Also, again, it said what's more appealing... I find real girls more appealing... For all the reasons I mentioned and many more. I think most of you choose "2d>3d" because it allows you to say you like little girls without quite as much uproar... I made it clear, I prefer the look of real eyes to huge cartoony eyes. Especially if we're talking about what's attractive/sexy.  Real is always more attractive. Do you only fap to hentai/anime? That's seriously weird in my opinion. |
i'd like to see 3d girls top this tbh I find both attractive. Both have their upsides. The real one, ofc, being well, real. |
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| Well...yeah. No fucking shit. They're drawn to be attractive. If they weren't I and other people wouldn't be able to fap to them (hentai). |
OneTrueEmiya said: i'd like to see 3d girls top this tbh I find both attractive. Both have their upsides. The real one, ofc, being well, real. She's fine but she's no Aoko Aozaki |
Kruzy said: hahahahahahaCabron said: Can't penetrate it m8. Implying that people here have a chance with 3D. mayukachan said: finally, a woman admits the truthichii_1 said: true. the cock is the most important aspect in a man after all2d won't dump you for a bigger cock. ichii_1 said: let me introduce you to the world of NTR2d won't dump you for a bigger cock. |
| Hm. I wonder do I misunderstand the word "appealing" in itself, or is it that OP misused it and should instead have used sth. along the line of "hot" ? |
| *darn, using my right hand is off-limits for a while. Typing with my left hand only is ... eww.* |
Fintan said: sadpwner said: I am talking purely about physical appearance so that's irrelevant in this topic. Well.... You didn't make it clear at all that it was ONLY about their "physical" appearance(pretty shallow OP...) You said their "appeal", and are even arguing in other comments about how if they were transferred into real life just as they are in anime "most would prefer them".... Yet what i said is irrelevant... I don't even agree that their physical appearance is better. If we're comparing good looking characters with good looking people... That's the fair way to do it, you can't compare ugly or even average people with great looking characters, you'd have to compare them to the ugly-average anime characters... Eye's Overall Preferred anime for the eye's images. For the overall images, kind of disliked both. You hate large cartoonish anime eyes but not all anime characters have eyes like that lol. When you compare the best anime characters with the best people, anime characters either look better or the same. People can look ugly due to a plethora of reasons such as positioning, age and mood while anime characters are unchanging unless the composers deliberately made them ugly. |
dissipatedNov 1, 2015 6:25 PM
Largething said: When you compare the best anime characters with the best people, anime characters either look better or the same. People can look ugly due to a plethora of reasons such as positioning, age and mood while anime characters are unchanging unless the composers deliberately made them ugly. Which is a flaw of animation. Sterile, static sameness should not be ideal--just like people can look funny at the wrong angles, fictional characters should too. It's more relatable and fun. And this isn't just a male thing, I think there's also something sexually dysfunctional about women who expect men to look like androgynous 15 year old boyband members for eternity. It's creepy. Problem is they can look flawed if the composer chooses to. 2D characters are the manifestations of our desires. They our determined purely by us and there is no limitation. Hate something? Change it. Want something? Make it. If the composer chooses to, a character with 0 flaws can be produced. From appearance to personality, it can all be perfect. The easiest comparison is photoshop. By taking photos of people they are being converted into 2D images. Then once they are photoshoped, their appearance is no longer real similarly to animated characters. Which do you think looks better? The photoshopped one of course. Given that most models and actors are photoshopped to look better, that is accepting that they are flawed and can be improved. However, the moment a flaw is detected, it is evident that their appearance is inferior to that of the animated as animated characters have no flaws. |
Fintan said: Yes, because 2d censors things I don't want to see or draws it so it looks decentDo you only fap to hentai/anime? That's seriously weird in my opinion. |
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bakanonbaka said: I don't know about 'technically' more appealing, it's the technical bit they lose out on - Can you enjoy a nice cup of tea made by your Waifu? Can you enjoy a nice cup of tea made by your IRL girlfriend? Largething said: I have a theory the modern anime art style resonates with autistic people because they have difficulty grasping emotions/empathy, and GIANT FACIAL FEATURES makes it a lot more obvious when characters are feeling or expressing anything. And you never really get a full range of expressions like in 80s anime or Disney (where bug eyes probably came from), they're either happy or sad or mad. Easy to grasp for the developmentally stunted. Can I take this part to "What is it that you enjoy in Anime/LN/Manga and you can't find it elsewhere?" thread? actually having readable facial expressions and emotions is one of the best things in anime that we lack IRL. |
GodAndTheBear said: No, I prefer my three dimensional GF to anime girls whose faces look like mutant wall plugs Anime character designs actually creep me out these days, there's something uncanny valley about them. I have a theory the modern anime art style resonates with autistic people because they have difficulty grasping emotions/empathy, and GIANT FACIAL FEATURES makes it a lot more obvious when characters are feeling or expressing anything. And you never really get a full range of expressions like in 80s anime or Disney (where bug eyes probably came from), they're either happy or sad or mad. Easy to grasp for the developmentally stunted. Nonsense, Complete bollocks nonsense you sound like another old fart giving it big shits about the good ol' days The range of expression in the majority of modern anime is nothing short of breathtaking. If you cannot see that then there is something wrong with you, not the anime. |
You have really bad taste :( She's a 4/10, I'd rather throw myself against a wall. |
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GodAndTheBear said: wow thanksAnd this isn't just a male thing, I think there's also something sexually dysfunctional about women who expect men to look like androgynous 15 year old boyband members for eternity. It's creepy. |
ichii_1 said: she is more than 4/10. Looks cute.You have really bad taste :( She's a 4/10, I'd rather throw myself against a wall. |
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ichii_1 said: She kinda looks hungover and creepy in this photo.You have really bad taste :( She's a 4/10, I'd rather throw myself against a wall. |
| The only 3D I everyone needs. |
ExTemplarNov 8, 2015 8:41 PM
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I've had "crushes" on "bishies" when I was a young girl (whole reason why I like Fushigi Yuugi). --- Then I discovered Kdrama.... or Kpop Boy Bands..... Creating perfect human bodies is also possible in 3D as well. It's called plastic surgery haha. I'll take Jinwoon over any 2D guy. :) Of course this is just ranking men on sex appeal and not on if they're good people, kind, smart, have any common interests, know how to treat a girl, etc. But my god, korean men are sexy (and yes I know they want nothing to do with my fat white american self) lol lol. I'm a huge Jinwoon fan girl though. :) He has shown me the light 3D > 2D always. :) Charming innocent smile, so much charisma.... until he takes off his shirt.... then he's just smokin'  |
| I agree, that drunk girl looked pretty below average. galimx said: No, real meat is better. You will see some day, try to move out of your room once. Didn't know you had a food fetish.  |
| They are drawn to be attractive so (maybe) yeah |
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| You guys only realized this now ? Shame on you. |
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