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Oct 25, 2015 10:40 AM
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Aeonenleben said:

Oh yeah.
I waited for the "it is just to subtle for you to notice card..."
The vegetable dance, the mecha chase, the mecha slapstick.
Now that you mention it i can see all the development put into the characters...


Wow, well ok then. Clearly this isn't an anime for you to enjoy and I don't think what I or anyone else says will change your mind on that. Which is a shame because I don't believe it's nearly as bad as you're making it out to be but to each their own.
 
Oct 25, 2015 10:45 AM

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Why was there a camera in the scarecrow

and damn Felia is such a child, I wish she had more intellect and was slightly older than a 3 year old
 
Oct 25, 2015 10:46 AM
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Why is everyone getting so mad over dancing vegetables?


Cause apparently amusing content is the latest addition to the list of random stuff that triggers people on the internet.
 
Oct 25, 2015 10:46 AM

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I finally get it. First half of this episode made me realize it's a modern show for little children. It's colourful, disgustingly stupid, things move and make noise, "characters" are annoying and make faces. And shit happens. You sit your kid in front of it and have 24 min for yourself. And then it grows to be a moron.

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People just can't appreciate characterization and light hearted moments these days
Characterization? You call that characterization? This show doesn't even have characters to begin with. Only walking cliches and plot devices. Kicking a pile of dirt is more of a characterization than whatever this show is doing.
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Oct 25, 2015 10:53 AM

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-1 to angry fanboys

this is boring stuff.........

dropped
 
Oct 25, 2015 10:55 AM

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I really like the part where Felia made the vegetables danced!
Fan of Kirito X Asuna pairing.

 
Oct 25, 2015 10:59 AM
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-1 to angry fanboys

this is boring stuff.........

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I don't see how dancing vegetables are "boring" by any definition of the word. But you know, whatever. Thanks for informing us, not like anyone cares.
 
Oct 25, 2015 11:01 AM

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Antanaru said:
Characterization? You call that characterization? This show doesn't even have characters to begin with. Only walking cliches and plot devices. Kicking a pile of dirt is more of a characterization than whatever this show is doing.


At the risk of sounding 2deep4you, are we watching the same show? Would Dirt run away from an arranged marriage? Would Dirt look after a little girl with no memories, who had the mentality of a three year old? Would 2 piles of Dirt, who with no relations to the little girl in their care, take her out into the city, show her a good time, and just generally spoil the little girl? Shogo and Koan may not be anything special, or eye catching, or have the name Kirito and Asuna, but they are doing the best they can for this little girl. They have shown characterization in the way the act towards each other. I'm sorry if it isn't the giant Mecha fight you thought it would be. But to say there are no characters in this show? That's just flat out wrong.
 
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Aeonenleben said:
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But you're wrong, there has been plenty of characterization if you just pay attention. It's just been slow and subtle, but has been happening. We are learning the likes dislikes and even habits of each of the cast, and a lot about the world they live in; if you can't see that, that's on no one but yourself, and complaining that it's a "bad show" because it doesn't spell it out for you to your face and you're unable to catch the subtle development is completely unfair.


Oh yeah.
I waited for the "it is just to subtle for you to notice card..."
The vegetable dance, the mecha chase, the mecha slapstick.
Now that you mention it i can see all the development put into the characters...
And I was waiting for a post just like this one to prove that you're the typical action junkie

They've already shown to you many examples of characterization and just because you didn't see it/care for it that doesn't mean that it wasn't there nor does it mean that it was bad

I swear these days people have such a short attention span that nobody pays attention to anything anymore, yet alone actually thinking long enough to interpret what's going on
 
Oct 25, 2015 11:09 AM

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Antanaru said:
Characterization? You call that characterization? This show doesn't even have characters to begin with. Only walking cliches and plot devices. Kicking a pile of dirt is more of a characterization than whatever this show is doing.


At the risk of sounding 2deep4you, are we watching the same show? Would Dirt run away from an arranged marriage? Would Dirt look after a little girl with no memories, who had the mentality of a three year old? Would 2 piles of Dirt, who with no relations to the little girl in their care, take her out into the city, show her a good time, and just generally spoil the little girl? Shogo and Koan may not be anything special, or eye catching, or have the name Kirito and Asuna, but they are doing the best they can for this little girl. They have shown characterization in the way the act towards each other. I'm sorry if it isn't the giant Mecha fight you thought it would be. But to say there are no characters in this show? That's just flat out wrong.
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Oct 25, 2015 11:42 AM

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NeoRevan said:
Antanaru said:
Characterization? You call that characterization? This show doesn't even have characters to begin with. Only walking cliches and plot devices. Kicking a pile of dirt is more of a characterization than whatever this show is doing.


At the risk of sounding 2deep4you, are we watching the same show? Would Dirt run away from an arranged marriage? Would Dirt look after a little girl with no memories, who had the mentality of a three year old? Would 2 piles of Dirt, who with no relations to the little girl in their care, take her out into the city, show her a good time, and just generally spoil the little girl? Shogo and Koan may not be anything special, or eye catching, or have the name Kirito and Asuna, but they are doing the best they can for this little girl. They have shown characterization in the way the act towards each other. I'm sorry if it isn't the giant Mecha fight you thought it would be. But to say there are no characters in this show? That's just flat out wrong.


I think your both underestimating dirt . It could do all that and better. Hell dirt would do it all in 2 episodes and waste less of my time.
 
Oct 25, 2015 11:45 AM

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I just watched the episode and it's almost hilarious watching people get so angry over dancing vegetables and a little bit of SOL in the show. Every week people find new reasons to drop this show. I enjoyed the episode and had a great time watching dumb dancing vegetables and everyone having a barbecue.

Despite people complaining of a lack of characterization, I had the opposite feelings this week. We found out why Sougo is so interested in his rock hobby and what drives him. We watched Felia experience new emotions and feelings when separated from Sougo and how that can affect her powers. Like I was saying with episode 3, they do a great job of slowly building up how the powers work and the just the world in general. I'd love more information about the ambitions of the antagonists and hopefully we get that next week.

The show is average fun and I'm enjoying it for what it is. Keep on hatin'

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Oct 25, 2015 11:47 AM

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@NeoRevan How can you know what I thought this show will be?

Case in point. Dirt wouldn't do that and they are not doing it either. What you mentioned wasn't characters doing something, it was standard scenes happening for writer's convenience. It was "stills from a city" scene, "random villain" scene. "kid being silly" scene, "working in a caffe" scene, "girl running away for some reason" scene.

There's no motivation for character's actions shown, hell there's no logic in what they are "doing". Last episode you have a cardboard villain chase the retard and now they are letting her show off her powers in front of customers. They are not reflecting on what is happening, they are not making any decisions, it's just shit happening.

Typhoon is coming so there's place for more acting stupid and pretty much all that is going on works like that. Something is happening so you can have a retard be stupid or stone be a comic relief, have some blushing, have something fall and be "funny", have a bad guy be bad, have something twirl, shine and make noise so kid in front of the screen is occupied.

If you're content with writers showing you the oldest tricks in the book and asking after every one "hey, do you recognize that, what a jolly good fun we have, right?" then good for you (I guess). But don't be surprised that people are calling bullshit. Don't expect them to enjoy something as half assed as this.

After seeing a certain number of series shows like that just annoy you. And not because they are doing the same thing. It's because they are doing it poorly. It's like having someone tell you the same simple joke and messing up the punchline over and over again.

As I said, it's a dumb kid's series for a Saturday morning. Don't try to make it more than it actually is.
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Oct 25, 2015 11:48 AM
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There was a lot of weird moment.
It's not bad and horrible like people says but it's still was the worst episode imo. (and not just because of the dancing vegetables. ._.)
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Oct 25, 2015 12:01 PM

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They. Let. Her. Use. Her. Powers. Like. This ?
Okay, all the characters are dumbass, it's official. This anime is so stupid.
 
Oct 25, 2015 12:16 PM

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What. The. Fuck.

That vegetable dancing crap is literally one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in any anime ever. Also, what kind of brain-dead fuckwits go to school in a goddamn typhoon? Oh wait, they only went cos the script told them to so that the magic kid with the mental age of a 2 year old could get kidnapped by the lame, crappy generic villains. Seriously, why should I care about villains who think breaking plant pots makes them edgy? And can that stupid rock snake thing just stop existing? It's so fucking annoying.

Is this really the show that had two really solid first episodes with interesting plot and mecha stuff? Cos everything since has been absolute shite.
 
Oct 25, 2015 12:33 PM

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I lost my shit during that weird vegetable dance but other than that, it was an alright episode. It could've been better but still its not as horrible as people are making this out to be.
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Oct 25, 2015 12:36 PM

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dancing veggies/10

I laughed my ass off
 
Oct 25, 2015 12:38 PM

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Score dropping lower each episode. It's starting to feel a lot like Classroom Crisis which was a failure until the end; at least CC had a more interesting setting and concept.

There's a difference between a slow paced story for dramatic effect/characterization and a lack of urgency regarding everything in an anime, even the delay between spoken lines. This anime is definitely the latter and that's not a good thing. It hasn't made us care about the lackluster characters at all; it doesn't even feel suspenseful or dramatic that Felia was kidnapped, instead provoking the response of "oh, okay."

I want to know how much of this episode's budget was wasted on animating vegetables. Seriously?
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Oct 25, 2015 12:48 PM

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I bet vegetarians loved this episode...
 
Oct 25, 2015 12:52 PM

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oh come on now!!! dancing vegetables and firework bbq fuck you just fuck you
 
Oct 25, 2015 12:53 PM

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An episode for everyone. Vegetable dancers was the best part. Although that Felia use their powers to do everything that beats me is going to cause more problems than benefits. Finally some action which extends after the episode.

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Oct 25, 2015 12:53 PM

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I liked this episode, don't really see why people are getting mad about vegetables. Don't take things so seriously!
 
Oct 25, 2015 1:02 PM

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What are they doing with this show? Dancing vegetables, really?
Dropped.
 
Oct 25, 2015 1:03 PM

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lol at autists getting mad at dancing vegetables
 
Oct 25, 2015 1:03 PM
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Aeonenleben said:
I want to punch whoever wrote this shit...
May he never ever get his hands on an original work again.
So much wasted potential, it really hurts me watching this shipwreck sink.

"Hey we have only 12 episodes for this and we fucked up ep3 pretty hard. What do we do to get story and characters rolling again?"
"How about filling 10min with vegetables and shitty sfx?"
"sounds good."

Just saw that the script writer worked on Code Geass and couldn't figure out how he could go so wrong. But it turns out he only did some of CG and don't have any other good stuff. And they let him do some original stuff EPIC FAIL

Edit: Also, how dumb am I to keep watching it? I just see some favorable review ob this and keep hoping it might have potential. But no more, never watching it again.
 
Oct 25, 2015 1:59 PM

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THE ENDING WAS VERY............PREDICTABLE!!!
I've seen many scene like that in anime.
but i hope the next episode gonna be better than this one.

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don't really see why people are getting mad about vegetables. Don't take things so seriously!


the vegetables in this episode was the stupid thing i have ever see but, many people dropped just because of the vegetables? LOL!

Edit: Holy Shit! i just saw the previous post and i think this is already the worst anime of the season(because of dancing vegetables) . i will still keep on watching though. curious about what will happen.
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Oct 25, 2015 2:21 PM

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Why is everyone getting so mad over dancing vegetables?

Do you even ask why?
 
Oct 25, 2015 2:29 PM

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Its sad that this show is better at slice of life then at its serious moments, despite the former never being advertised at all.

Best episode of the series thus far (Though most episodes of any anime still would top Episode 3's shit factor), but it still doesn't excuse the poor writing when it actually gets serious. We're in the first third into the series and they haven't explained a damn thing. Mainly, the whole background behind Felia. All that's really happened with her is that she's shown to have characteristics associated with autistic people, and that she has psychic powers. Cool and all, but why the do villains want her so damn badly? What was life like back on her home planet? Is there any reason why she has limited vocabulary?

And sure, you may say it'll probably be explained later, but the first third is where they should've put this information, not half way through like I'm expecting, if they decide to bother that is. In my opinion, this would've been BETTER as a slice of life comedy, it would not have been special, but it'd at least entertain me the whole way through.

(Though I do have to say the neckbeard posters getting triggered at dancing vegetables makes me laugh)
 
Oct 25, 2015 2:51 PM

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Poor Do Mon telling them about his first love but they dont care and ignore him like wow guys that man just opened his heart for you and you just walk away..
Animation was decent but nothing special and Felia is still cute af.
I personally liked the Disney-type CG animated floating dancing vegetables.
Phew I never thought I would ever say this sentence!

So is anyone able to tell me what this is?

Is it a boy with a femine face and hair and really trained packs? Is it a girl with a very maskuline voice and body? We´ll never know
 
Oct 25, 2015 3:05 PM

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When veggies were all dancing and shit, i thought i was watching a Disney movie or smth. Great episode tho, we've got some action at the end.
 
Oct 25, 2015 3:40 PM

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This would have been better if it was about Sogo and Kaon running away from the arranged marriage lmao. Hopefully next week's episode will improve. Those dancing vegetables were so beauty and the beast material.
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Oct 25, 2015 4:24 PM

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I'm personally getting completely bored by this series right now. Might come back when it all finishes and watch it all in one go to give it a final judgement
 
Oct 25, 2015 4:48 PM

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It just get interesting...
So what can Sogo do against big shot military commander...
I don't like the guy with Gus, what was his name agin? Screw him just ganna called him fucker.
 
Oct 25, 2015 5:07 PM

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First 3/4 of the episode was meh. That dancing vegetables was like a poor and short version of Flubber's Mambo ROFL. The last scene got a little bit of my interest. We'll see...
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Well, nothing interesting happened during the first half, unlike the second half. Still enjoyed it nonetheless, just hope they won't waste too much time on it again in future episodes - that nothing happened. Still enjoyed this episode. But look at all that hate though, lol. Maybe this episode's the worst so far, but hating a show for just that feels out of place somehow. Lol.

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Why is everyone getting so mad over dancing vegetables?


Yep, this.

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What are they doing with this show? Dancing vegetables, really?
Dropped.


Lmfao.
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got confused for a moment, what was up with the disney like movie moment of the vegetables dancing?....
 
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Man the writing is entertaining by now in its completely disjointed toddler-level coincidence, happenstance and unintentional non-sequitor.

Now it feels more like a kids' show. I'll treat it as one and keep watching, because I had some good laughs this episode.

Kids ignoring Do Mon's story -> rude much?

Do Mon was never intending to fix the roof until the typhoon, lol

Random camera in a scarecrow

"We connected to a camera pointed directly at what we're looking for, but we're too stupid to pinpoint its location!"

Psychotic murderer calling a pedo "creepy". I guess, lol

"Quick, let's think of a way to disable Felia's powers and separate her from Moura in time for the bad guys to appear."
"Let's... Give her a temper tantrum and attach a piece of Moura to her to passively cancel her power?"
"But have we ever explained how any of this shit works?"
"Okay let's start thinking about episode 5"
*throws dart at storyboard randomizer*

This writing is comedy gold, it's so bad that it's good. And I've never used that term about an anime since Another.

THIS is what a guilty pleasure looks like!
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The salt is real in here. She's a child, what do you expect her to do with her magic powers? Raise the dead?

It seems Felia can sense danger, hence why she asked Sogo to stay. Felia and Chamon are clearly intertwined, yet people are finding a way to complain about it like it's some forced thing. It's not, no matter how you twist it.

I don't quite understand why people are coming in here expecting some realistic thing. It's under fantasy, and is about a little girl found in a crystal. And a little rock that turns into a robot. I'm not exactly sure what kind of expectations you had, but clearly you had the wrong ones. This show does have a few problems like story progression and pace, but the end of this episode marked a turn in the story. The complaints would be legitimate if they were still screwing around at episode 5.

Patience is obviously required for this show, but who has patience for a story when you just want your instant gratification with giant robots punching each other until one explodes?
 
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Why was there a camera in the scarecrow

Tactical Scarecrows man, crazy future shit.
 
Oct 25, 2015 8:37 PM

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I called it! Already said this looks like one of those anime where the story is going nowhere. Not happy about being right about this of course but man this was quite a dissappointment for me actually... I expected more from this series. Maybe I'm bad for saying this but, at least Felia got kidnapped... maybe there will be some action the next episodes.
 
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Shokugeki said:
Why was there a camera in the scarecrow

Tactical Scarecrows man, crazy future shit.


Everything is a robot in the future
 
Oct 25, 2015 9:07 PM
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There's a difference between a slow paced story for dramatic effect/characterization and a lack of urgency regarding everything in an anime, even the delay between spoken lines. This anime is definitely the latter and that's not a good thing. It hasn't made us care about the lackluster characters at all; it doesn't even feel suspenseful or dramatic that Felia was kidnapped, instead provoking the response of "oh, okay."

I agree with this, I don't find the characters relatable or even interesting at all. They've been quite one dimensional, imo, there's simply no depth to them so far. No depth within first 2 episodes out of 12, okay, I understand. None within 4 is alarming, it's a third way through the season already. I don't consider these last two episodes to be characterization episodes.

I've probably said this before, but I like SoL moments, even in anime that has a plot, but the SoL moments must be significant in some way, and these weren't. Gargantia was sort of like this, with slice of life episodes for the most of the series, and they were really good since the content was also for worldbuilding, there were interesting interactions between characters, and relationships growing. But Comet Lucifer does almost none of that, the slice of life moments we saw in this episode is almost no different from the previous two, the same character interactions and learning nothing new of the world. I don't mean by anything drastically changing in the characters or the interactions between them, but this isn't a true slice of life, so I hold it accountable for better usage of its time, meaning something should change; we should learn something about them or the characters should be learning something. There's been other reoccurring characters like the antagonists, at the very least, we could've learned something about them.

Also, people saying that this is an anime for kids, I would disagree. Brave Beats is a children's anime running this season and so far it's been far more entertaining than this, despite being more absurd in the eyes of older audiences. I bet kids would have a better time watching BB than Comet Lucifer.
 
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Also, people saying that this is an anime for kids, I would disagree. Brave Beats is a children's anime running this season and so far it's been far more entertaining than this, despite being more absurd in the eyes of older audiences. I bet kids would have a better time watching BB than Comet Lucifer.


Well if this show is designed for teens and a young adults then it fails on nearly every level of story telling so far.
 
Oct 26, 2015 12:46 AM

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The end of Felia's party T______T
 
Oct 26, 2015 1:11 AM

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I didn't know vegetables could make someone drop an anime....
 
Oct 26, 2015 4:36 AM
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Aww, a cliffhanger! :(
Worried about Felia!
 
Oct 26, 2015 4:41 AM
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vegetables part was fun... not sure if it was necessary, but it does reflect her feelings at that point. Wasn't expecting her to get abducted at the end so easily. And poor Moura got rekt. Hope its okay.




 
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NeoRevan said:
Tokoya said:
People just can't appreciate characterization and light hearted moments these days


I know, I loved the times when it was just a mother, father, and their daughter. Sorta. Don't really see that a lot these days. It was... refreshing. A nice way to start my Sunday Morning.

^This

I was enjoying the family interaction and character building. I just want to see the Kaon X Sougo ship sail while Felia plays the role of daughter. Could care less about mecha at this point.
 
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Lol did I just watch a Disney animation? Dancing plants?

This is a very slow episode, I'd say a fanservice episode without any service because Felia is the main point sell probably.

 
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