| 'cause moralfaggotry is a new tendency + pseudo-cult wannabes. just enjoy your stuff without worrying about another people like me and have fun! |
| Oh, a necro? Sure why not. Ot. It's not really that hated, compared to fujobait. |
| I think it's because they can't watch it on public places. Just like on my situation. T_T |
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| My issue with it is that it makes me feel strange. I have little sisters that i want to get into Anime culture but dont let them as there are so many damn ecchi's and fanservice BS. |
| Who is this "Samurai who smells of Sunflowers"? -Jin, Samurai Champloo |
| Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. I do think that it shouldn't be abolished completely, because variety is the key and there is definitely a market for it. Unfortunately, we, as a western audience, are not the target, so whatever we might think about it, it won't really matter. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
Djaga said: 'cause moralfaggotry is a new tendency + pseudo-cult wannabes. just enjoy your stuff without worrying about another people like me and have fun! This Because they're prudes |
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sjo said: Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. That reasoning could honestly apply to several different genres. And if someone is watching a ecchi show expecting to be mind blown or expecting something thought provoking, then they're the ones at fault, as most shows with ecchi as a main genre aren't trying to be either in the first place. |
| People pick at low-hanging fruit in order to try and justify to themselves that they're smart, I guess. I still think it's retarded that people are like "where's muh philosophical and thought provoking sturry?" when what's on the tin is pretty much panty shots and tits That's like buying a bag of chips and wondering why you're not getting a 5 star meal or something Ah well, Ecchi is gr8 and Ecchi fans are glorious master race. |
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Paul said: sjo said: Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. That reasoning could honestly apply to several different genres. And if someone is watching a ecchi show expecting to be mind blown or expecting something thought provoking, then they're the ones at fault, as most shows with ecchi as a main genre aren't trying to be either in the first place. People will say anything to defend mediocrity, won't they? |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
| People's tolerance for sexual implications varies wildly. Some people are ok seeing full frontal nudity and some aren't even comfortable seeing a little underwear. Welcome to MAL. |
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sjo said: Paul said: That reasoning could honestly apply to several different genres. And if someone is watching a ecchi show expecting to be mind blown or expecting something thought provoking, then they're the ones at fault, as most shows with ecchi as a main genre aren't trying to be either in the first place. People will say anything to defend mediocrity, won't they? Pretty sure people will say anything to defend their opinion as well, even if it doesn't result in much or back anything up. |
| I don't hate it. I just don't enjoy it. The most important thing in anime for me is its plot and characters, and in ecchi genres, the ecchi factor usually tends to overshadow the plot and character development. What I expect from anime is not only fun but also something satisfying, something that examines human nature and explores life in general. Ecchi genre tends to focus more on fun than content, and when I watch it, it makes me feel like I'm killing my time on something that gives my soul no satisfaction, it doesn't improve my persoective in any way. It is the same with comedy. If it just makes you laugh and kill time, I don't enjoy it much. I do love comedies that makes you laugh and think at the same, though. So, nothing personal for ecchi. |
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| The problem with ecchi is not the ecchi itself but rather how writers and etc use it and that quite allot of ecchi's have Fundamental issues because of other elements not working right. Paul said: sjo said: Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. That reasoning could honestly apply to several different genres. And if someone is watching a ecchi show expecting to be mind blown or expecting something thought provoking, then they're the ones at fault, as most shows with ecchi as a main genre aren't trying to be either in the first place. But even Shows who aren't trying to be thought provoking or mind blowing Can be good through Good characters and overal excecution like Jojo or Nichijou for examples. |
Lisbon said: People pick at low-hanging fruit in order to try and justify to themselves that they're smart, I guess. I still think it's retarded that people are like "where's muh philosophical and thought provoking sturry?" when what's on the tin is pretty much panty shots and tits That's like buying a bag of chips and wondering why you're not getting a 5 star meal or something Ah well, Ecchi is gr8 and Ecchi fans are glorious master race. Ironic to be criticising the same attitude you're having, lol. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
| No one can hate the godly genre of ecchi. |
 "The sun is my enemy, but the moon has been good to me." |
Bourmegar said: Paul said: That reasoning could honestly apply to several different genres. And if someone is watching a ecchi show expecting to be mind blown or expecting something thought provoking, then they're the ones at fault, as most shows with ecchi as a main genre aren't trying to be either in the first place. But even Shows who aren't trying to be thought provoking or mind blowing Can be good through Good characters and overal excecution like Jojo or Nichijou for examples. I'm not really sure what you mean saying that. I never said shows that aren't mind blowing or through provoking are bad if that's what you're trying to say. That's what the guy I quoted is saying. |
Paul said: Bourmegar said: But even Shows who aren't trying to be thought provoking or mind blowing Can be good through Good characters and overal excecution like Jojo or Nichijou for examples. I'm not really sure what you mean saying that. I never said shows that aren't mind blowing or through provoking are bad if that's what you're trying to say. That's what the guy I quoted is saying. Well I stand Corrected then..... sorry I thought you where Defending ecchi by saying that they weren't supposed to be deep or Mindblowing |
Selenium_Thorium said: yh Don't blame the Genre, Blame the writers insteadNo one can hate the godly genre of ecchi. |
Bourmegar said: Paul said: I'm not really sure what you mean saying that. I never said shows that aren't mind blowing or through provoking are bad if that's what you're trying to say. That's what the guy I quoted is saying. Well I stand Corrected then..... sorry I thought you where Defending ecchi by saying that they weren't supposed to be deep or Mindblowing Now it's not making any sense cause that is what I'm saying, but I'm not saying they "weren't suppose to be" I'm saying most aren't trying to be to begin with. And you're sayin shows that aren't either of the two can still be good while using non-ecchi show examples, which is why I said that makes no sense cause I never said anything about being bad or good let alone about other genres. |
| As a guy that loves tits and ass (especially ass), i can't stand the very existence of the ecchi genre. I get that ecchi/fanservice anime is supposed to be a somewhat safer version of hentai, minus the penetration of course, just to arouse it's viewers. Here's my issue though, it's when an ecchi anime does all that and nothing else. While there are the naughty bits we can all drool over, is there anything else that'll keep us entertained? Story?: either non existent or laughably half assed Characters?: Bland and duller than a butter knife cut out carbon copies of every anime character archetype ever made, that or the irritating and unlikeable meter is cranked up to 100 and then the show becomes a chore to stomach. And that's why i just don't like most ecchi/fanservice anime, they're just not that entertaining to me. Sure there's poon drawn and animated in perfect detail, but if there's nothing else for me to grasp on when the story and character's suck, why bother? |
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Nico- said: Djaga said: 'cause moralfaggotry is a new tendency + pseudo-cult wannabes. just enjoy your stuff without worrying about another people like me and have fun! Funny how the so-called moralfags are willing to go out of their way to praise hentai but trash ecchi all the while claiming themselves to be prudes. Yh these Moralfags don't judge things properly then |
Paul said: Bourmegar said: Well I stand Corrected then..... sorry I thought you where Defending ecchi by saying that they weren't supposed to be deep or Mindblowing Now it's not making any sense cause that is what I'm saying, but I'm not saying they "weren't suppose to be" I'm saying most aren't trying to be to begin with. And you're sayin shows that aren't either of the two can still be good while using non-ecchi show examples, which is why I said that makes no sense cause I never said anything about being bad or good let alone about other genres. Guess I missunderstood it all then..... sorry |
| Because its not their favs and they need to bash on an easy target. |
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| Bump a rebornna thread, good idea. Why do people care so much about what other people like and hate? |
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rebornnora said: I admit, i love those genre's. however, from time to time, i read this comments from different anime websites and some have hate comments about a specific ecchi anime like Highschool dxd, one salty person saying people who view this anime is nothing but perverts, caring about the boobs instead of the plot. well, say what you will, i love these kind of anime and i dont care if there is a plot, i don't see your lost. just don't watch it if you hate it. but why do they hate? whats your guys opinion? so what you're saying is that those people are absolutely right, you don't care about plot and just watch it for the boobs. What's hating about that? I'd understand it if you felt offended because you watched it for different reasons, but why does the truth you yourself admitted to qualify as 'hating'? If anyone sounds salty here it's you. Salty that your motivations are so transparent and not shared by everyone with a dick. Get over it. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I feel like people who like ecchi should just admit that they enjoy something base and just move on. Nobody actually judges you for indulging in looking at tight panties and over sized areolas. |
| guh... we keep reviving these threads... anyway.... i don't care about defending "the shows" i care about defending the usage of ecchi in general.... i agree that many of the shows are copy paste, so when people hate on for example, battle harems, its more about them all being extremely similar, so i don't really have problem with that, for me its the: "ecchi ruins anime" "its only there for basement dwelling losers" "its only there cause it makes money" "it kills the mood" "its too distracting" shit, that i find annoying so yea, pointing out things like how many battle harems all have the same recycled tropes and "shitty main characters" is not my issue, cause i agree. however theres plenty of ecchi heavy shows or shows with a decent amount that are not copy paste. and as someone who doesn't give a shit about story, the fanservice being the selling point is not an issue to me, cause im going to want it whether or not its the selling point and whether or not the show has an amazing story but ofc the whole "all the shows are the same" argument can be said about many genres |
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Yudina said: I feel like people who like ecchi should just admit that they enjoy something base and just move on. Nobody actually judges you for indulging in looking at tight panties and over sized areolas. What I hate the most about anti-ecchi crowd is that they claim that ecchi anime has no other strong points besides ecchi. They would never see the heartwarming friendship of Strike Witches, the social commentary of Kodomo no Jikan, the superpowered fighting of Dog Days or Mahou Sensei Negima, the horror of Isuka... They aren't even fun people who appreciate comedy! If somebody doesn't laugh, it's is just wrong, in my opinion. Lisbon said: I still think it's retarded that people are like "where's muh philosophical and thought provoking sturry?" when what's on the tin is pretty much panty shots and tits The problem is, add some bouncing tits or a pantyshot to a show, and they would lose track of all the philosophy and thought! Have you ever seen Musaigen Phantom World praised for its philosophy? And it doesn't even count as ecchi! Nico- said: Funny how the so-called moralfags are willing to go out of their way to praise hentai but trash ecchi all the while claiming themselves to be prudes. Indeed. I still think that's because they are ruled over by their genitalia, and don't have a healthy approach to sexuality. sjo said: Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. This is an unfair generalization. Are characters from Highschool of the Dead really the same as Haganai? Or is the plot the same? Or the themes? I don't know what it takes to provoke your thoughts or blow your mind (Majikoi was one to make me think), but ecchi anime definitely have soul. br4dl3yb34r said: Because its softcore porn. Either watch porn or watch art, not something that does a half-assed job of both. Of the anime I have watched, the one most deserving to be called true art is Kodomo no Jikan. |
| Just gaybois who can't appreciate a good fap hates ecchi. |
| I think its because its leaking its way into every anime out there. Its to the point where many people won't even look at a show once an ecchi scene pops up. This was also with the big Tsundere hate going on a few years back. |
| I`m not here to look at a piece of art and critically review through my imaginary lens. I`m here to get my dick out and enjoy life. |
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| I wouldn't say everyone, there are a lot of people though. Ecchi anime tend to be repetitive. That's a big reason why. Another one would be that they dislike teases, they want more !111 That's why hentai and doujins exist |
| "Because people don't have wings.. We look for ways to fly." |
| Because eccchi is the reason we don't have high quality hentai anime :3 |
| I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken. |
| Everyone hating the ecchi genre? Ecchi Squad, Ecchi/Harem, Harem&Ecchi Club are among the clubs with the most members. At least, on MAL, ecchi is loved. Other sites don't hate only ecchis, but anime. |
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flannan said: Yudina said: I feel like people who like ecchi should just admit that they enjoy something base and just move on. Nobody actually judges you for indulging in looking at tight panties and over sized areolas. What I hate the most about anti-ecchi crowd is that they claim that ecchi anime has no other strong points besides ecchi. They would never see the heartwarming friendship of Strike Witches, the social commentary of Kodomo no Jikan, the superpowered fighting of Dog Days or Mahou Sensei Negima, the horror of Isuka... They aren't even fun people who appreciate comedy! If somebody doesn't laugh, it's is just wrong, in my opinion. Lisbon said: I still think it's retarded that people are like "where's muh philosophical and thought provoking sturry?" when what's on the tin is pretty much panty shots and tits The problem is, add some bouncing tits or a pantyshot to a show, and they would lose track of all the philosophy and thought! Have you ever seen Musaigen Phantom World praised for its philosophy? And it doesn't even count as ecchi! Nico- said: Funny how the so-called moralfags are willing to go out of their way to praise hentai but trash ecchi all the while claiming themselves to be prudes. Indeed. I still think that's because they are ruled over by their genitalia, and don't have a healthy approach to sexuality. sjo said: Because they are all the same, they employ the same tiresome cliches and tropes, there's no variation, the characters are never interesting, there's no soul, nothing mindblowing, nothing thought-provoking. And once you've seen what anime can really do, you don't really want to go back to something of that sort. This is an unfair generalization. Are characters from Highschool of the Dead really the same as Haganai? Or is the plot the same? Or the themes? I don't know what it takes to provoke your thoughts or blow your mind (Majikoi was one to make me think), but ecchi anime definitely have soul. br4dl3yb34r said: Because its softcore porn. Either watch porn or watch art, not something that does a half-assed job of both. Of the anime I have watched, the one most deserving to be called true art is Kodomo no Jikan. Ppl just see Other issues in these shows and just blame fanservice for them. I haven't seen a anti Food wars crowd nor an anti Prison school crowd and both have quite some Fanservice in them. |
Idiots_on_MAL said: I`m not here to look at a piece of art and critically review through my imaginary lens. I`m here to get my dick out and enjoy life. I think I'm in love with you after reading this |
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flannan said: All those qualities literally have nothing to do with liking ecchi content specifically; those are just natural story telling qualities that can and do exist anywhere. If you are watching ecchi, you are pulling out your dick or putting your hand in your pants and moaning like a voyeur stumbling upon a near sex experience.Yudina said: I feel like people who like ecchi should just admit that they enjoy something base and just move on. Nobody actually judges you for indulging in looking at tight panties and over sized areolas. What I hate the most about anti-ecchi crowd is that they claim that ecchi anime has no other strong points besides ecchi. They would never see the heartwarming friendship of Strike Witches, the social commentary of Kodomo no Jikan, the superpowered fighting of Dog Days or Mahou Sensei Negima, the horror of Isuka... They aren't even fun people who appreciate comedy! If somebody doesn't laugh, it's is just wrong, in my opinion. And there is nothing wrong with that. |
Yudina said: flannan said: All those qualities literally have nothing to do with liking ecchi content specifically; those are just natural story telling qualities that can and do exist anywhere. If you are watching ecchi, you are pulling out your dick or putting your hand in your pants and moaning like a voyeur stumbling upon a near sex experience.What I hate the most about anti-ecchi crowd is that they claim that ecchi anime has no other strong points besides ecchi. They would never see the heartwarming friendship of Strike Witches, the social commentary of Kodomo no Jikan, the superpowered fighting of Dog Days or Mahou Sensei Negima, the horror of Isuka... They aren't even fun people who appreciate comedy! If somebody doesn't laugh, it's is just wrong, in my opinion. I assure you, that's not the way I'm watching ecchi. Although sometimes I take a break for hentai when watching especially ecchi anime. All those things exist in ecchi, and I enjoy them with some stimulating nudity and other sexy stuff. It's not much different from the concept of comic relief. |
flannan said: "I watch it for the deep and engaging plot".Yudina said: All those qualities literally have nothing to do with liking ecchi content specifically; those are just natural story telling qualities that can and do exist anywhere. If you are watching ecchi, you are pulling out your dick or putting your hand in your pants and moaning like a voyeur stumbling upon a near sex experience. I assure you, that's not the way I'm watching ecchi. Although sometimes I take a break for hentai when watching especially ecchi anime. All those things exist in ecchi, and I enjoy them with some stimulating nudity and other sexy stuff. It's not much different from the concept of comic relief. |
Aure0linAug 21, 2016 12:24 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
FullyErect said: flannan said: "I watch it for the deep and engaging plot".I assure you, that's not the way I'm watching ecchi. Although sometimes I take a break for hentai when watching especially ecchi anime. All those things exist in ecchi, and I enjoy them with some stimulating nudity and other sexy stuff. It's not much different from the concept of comic relief. 1) There can be no discussion if we outright disbelieve each other. 2) The exact reasons vary, but this I can tell for sure - a fighting anime/manga is a lot better when it has clothing damage and nudity instead of wounds and blood. Blood is for edgelords and prudes. |
flannan said: FullyErect said: "I watch it for the deep and engaging plot". 1) There can be no discussion if we outright disbelieve each other. 2) The exact reasons vary, but this I can tell for sure - a fighting anime/manga is a lot better when it has clothing damage and nudity instead of wounds and blood. Blood is for edgelords and prudes. Blood and gore are for edgelords but that doesn't mean clothing damage and nudity aren't for pervs. Watching a show that happens to have ecchi is different from watching ecchi for the ecchi. |
Aure0linAug 21, 2016 1:01 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
XJoker said: maybe because it's full of bullshit , i mean what's the point from waching naked bodies I can think of a few :^) it's okay to like or dislike ecchi but just don't be a dick about it guys |
br4dl3yb34r said: flannan said: Of the anime I have watched, the one most deserving to be called true art is Kodomo no Jikan. If the most artistic anime you have seen is about a prepubescent girl seducing her teacher you need to watch better anime, or reevaluate what art is. There are many other anime that might deserve to be called "art" more. But that one is the one which deserves the title of "true art". Why is it? It is offensive. True art shouldn't languish in polite topics. It should challenge society. |
| Back in my time, ecchi was pretty fine, the related animes actually got some plot. Nowadays, the sexual-related scenes seem to be too much forced up, what turns it pretty unsatisfactory and very boring to watch. That's just my opinion. |
You might call others better artists, but Frank is the one which deserves the title of "true artist". Why is it? He is offensive. True artists shouldn't languish in polite topics. They should challenge society. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
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