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Aug 21, 2016 2:47 PM

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Idk I think I just outgrew it... I used to LOVE ecchi genre when I was in my teens.
Im 21 now and ecchi just doesn't stimulate me like it did before. A
show that has a plot completely driven by panty shots just bores me now. It seems so... shallow. I dont hate it, I just dont need it.
Aug 21, 2016 3:14 PM

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br4dl3yb34r said:
So true art has to be offensive? That's utter nonsense. Yeah a lot of good art is meant to challenge the viewer, but being offensive for the sake of being offensive doesn't make something inherently good. That's just sensationalist crap. Wow pedophilia, so edgy. That means it must be good right? Ridiculous. Leave it to anime fans to twist a bunch of fan service for pedos into "true art." This is why anime gets a bad rap.

Yh it is just so sad that most shows don't use ecchi in full advantage without going to far......

Bdw did you quote me at one point? I got a message about it and I can't find the comment of that.
Aug 21, 2016 3:20 PM

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There's nothing good about it, you can't fap to it because it's just shitty cock teasing and hentai exists for that reason.

And the shows suck because ecchi scenes take up way too much screentime which doesn't add anything to the story or fleshing out characters. The characters are usually inherently bland.

In short, ecchi is cancer.
This is almost word for word what I was going to say. A cock tease that drags out like hell with no substance. Some like Golden Boy are still very much worth the watch because of the humor and work put in but they're a rare breed.
Aug 21, 2016 3:39 PM
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Bourmegar said:
br4dl3yb34r said:
So true art has to be offensive? That's utter nonsense. Yeah a lot of good art is meant to challenge the viewer, but being offensive for the sake of being offensive doesn't make something inherently good. That's just sensationalist crap. Wow pedophilia, so edgy. That means it must be good right? Ridiculous. Leave it to anime fans to twist a bunch of fan service for pedos into "true art." This is why anime gets a bad rap.

Yh it is just so sad that most shows don't use ecchi in full advantage without going to far......

Bdw did you quote me at one point? I got a message about it and I can't find the comment of that.


Yeah sort of. I'm kind of new at this and I didn't want to quote a huge entire block of text and I kind of messed it up. I was trying to reply to an exchange you and flannan had.
Aug 21, 2016 3:52 PM

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br4dl3yb34r said:
Bourmegar said:

Yh it is just so sad that most shows don't use ecchi in full advantage without going to far......

Bdw did you quote me at one point? I got a message about it and I can't find the comment of that.


Yeah sort of. I'm kind of new at this and I didn't want to quote a huge entire block of text and I kind of messed it up. I was trying to reply to an exchange you and flannan had.

And then you accidentally removed my part to I see xd

A prepubescent girl Seducing a reacher is just to wrong.....
Aug 21, 2016 3:57 PM

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Because its boring to watch, I'd prefer to watch Hentai then instead.
Aug 21, 2016 4:06 PM
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Bourmegar said:
br4dl3yb34r said:


Yeah sort of. I'm kind of new at this and I didn't want to quote a huge entire block of text and I kind of messed it up. I was trying to reply to an exchange you and flannan had.

And then you accidentally removed my part to I see xd

A prepubescent girl Seducing a reacher is just to wrong.....


For me its not the fact that its too wrong. Anime depicts a lot of things that are wrong or in a moral gray area (and that premise is NOT in a moral gray area, grown men fucking little girls is fucked). Its the idea that people could think its anything more than fan service and wish fulfillment for pedophiles.
Aug 21, 2016 4:19 PM

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Easy cause all the do is show boobs and pants of the female characters. Not that I have problem with it but it annoys me when the show isn't focused on the story itself but on the female human body. Also the story is usually bland or boring or cliche. The MC usually is overpowered for no apparent reason or is the only one who can (insert ability here) to save the world. Female characters are there just to be saved by the MC. Not to mention the idiotic comedy that some have. *They are not all the same, some are actually good the majority though is shit*
A Story will always come to it's end. The thing is, will you move on after it's over?
Aug 22, 2016 12:42 AM

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br4dl3yb34r said:
So true art has to be offensive? That's utter nonsense. Yeah a lot of good art is meant to challenge the viewer, but being offensive for the sake of being offensive doesn't make something inherently good. That's just sensationalist crap. Wow pedophilia, so edgy. That means it must be good right? Ridiculous. Leave it to anime fans to twist a bunch of fan service for pedos into "true art." This is why anime gets a bad rap.

1) There are other criteria for true art, but offensiveness is a good measure of truthfulness. If your government wants to ban it, or your parents don't want you to see it, it must be good stuff!

2) There is a dozen other ways in which Kodomo no Jikan is good. It's funny, it's tragic, it has well-done psychology and nice art...
Unlike a textbook, Kodomo no Jikan is a good watch. Which it puts to good use. That's why it's art, not just a revolutionary pamphlet.

3) Do I care about anime's rap? No, I don't. It's mostly fueled by government propaganda, and I hate my government.

4) Twisting things around? It's a lot of fun, actually. But this time, I'm being serious.

Bourmegar said:
A prepubescent girl Seducing a reacher is just to wrong.....

Compared to other stuff that happens in anime? I don't think so.
Ever watched Mirai Nikki? It's a fun show about a girl who murders a lot of people to get the attention of the boy she loves. Oh, and one time she ties him up (for days?) to speed up the process. The girl is the most popular female character on MAL for a while now.

BTW, yes, Rin is a twisted girl, and that's what drives the tragic part of the show!

br4dl3yb34r said:
Its the idea that people could think its anything more than fan service and wish fulfillment for pedophiles.

Yes, this is exactly what I hate about the anti-ecchi crowd. They never allow themselves to think ecchi shows contain anything else but fanservice and wish fulfillment. Which is totally wrong.
Aug 22, 2016 5:53 AM

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cause its not appealing....................
Aug 22, 2016 6:26 AM

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Because many Ecchi anime are basically the same...
And Clichés everywhere, it's basically repetitive and boring to watch...
Aug 22, 2016 7:19 AM

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My issue with it is that it makes me feel strange. I have little sisters that i want to get into Anime culture but dont let them as there are so many damn ecchi's and fanservice BS.
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My issue with it is that it makes me feel strange. I have little sisters that i want to get into Anime culture but dont let them as there are so many damn ecchi's and fanservice BS.


That's what tags are for. Start them off on shoujo anime. They'll probably watch fujoshi shows anyways
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flannan said:
@FullyErect
br4dl3yb34r said:
So true art has to be offensive? That's utter nonsense. Yeah a lot of good art is meant to challenge the viewer, but being offensive for the sake of being offensive doesn't make something inherently good. That's just sensationalist crap. Wow pedophilia, so edgy. That means it must be good right? Ridiculous. Leave it to anime fans to twist a bunch of fan service for pedos into "true art." This is why anime gets a bad rap.

1) There are other criteria for true art, but offensiveness is a good measure of truthfulness. If your government wants to ban it, or your parents don't want you to see it, it must be good stuff!

2) There is a dozen other ways in which Kodomo no Jikan is good. It's funny, it's tragic, it has well-done psychology and nice art...
Unlike a textbook, Kodomo no Jikan is a good watch. Which it puts to good use. That's why it's art, not just a revolutionary pamphlet.

3) Do I care about anime's rap? No, I don't. It's mostly fueled by government propaganda, and I hate my government.

4) Twisting things around? It's a lot of fun, actually. But this time, I'm being serious.

Bourmegar said:
A prepubescent girl Seducing a reacher is just to wrong.....

Compared to other stuff that happens in anime? I don't think so.
Ever watched Mirai Nikki? It's a fun show about a girl who murders a lot of people to get the attention of the boy she loves. Oh, and one time she ties him up (for days?) to speed up the process. The girl is the most popular female character on MAL for a while now.

BTW, yes, Rin is a twisted girl, and that's what drives the tragic part of the show!

br4dl3yb34r said:
Its the idea that people could think its anything more than fan service and wish fulfillment for pedophiles.

Yes, this is exactly what I hate about the anti-ecchi crowd. They never allow themselves to think ecchi shows contain anything else but fanservice and wish fulfillment. Which is totally wrong.

And even Yuno is just a Yandere who is just popular because she is more extreme, for the rest She is just a yandere who carries that show which is not even that good.

Besides, only a few Ecchi shows are more than just Fanservice or use Fanservice well to tell something.
Like Shimoneta (although it is not that good) Stabbing at Japans Cencorship culture,
or Food Wars Food gasms.
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flannan said:
@FullyErect
br4dl3yb34r said:
So true art has to be offensive? That's utter nonsense. Yeah a lot of good art is meant to challenge the viewer, but being offensive for the sake of being offensive doesn't make something inherently good. That's just sensationalist crap. Wow pedophilia, so edgy. That means it must be good right? Ridiculous. Leave it to anime fans to twist a bunch of fan service for pedos into "true art." This is why anime gets a bad rap.

1) There are other criteria for true art, but offensiveness is a good measure of truthfulness. If your government wants to ban it, or your parents don't want you to see it, it must be good stuff!

2) There is a dozen other ways in which Kodomo no Jikan is good. It's funny, it's tragic, it has well-done psychology and nice art...
Unlike a textbook, Kodomo no Jikan is a good watch. Which it puts to good use. That's why it's art, not just a revolutionary pamphlet.

3) Do I care about anime's rap? No, I don't. It's mostly fueled by government propaganda, and I hate my government.

4) Twisting things around? It's a lot of fun, actually. But this time, I'm being serious.

Bourmegar said:
A prepubescent girl Seducing a reacher is just to wrong.....

Compared to other stuff that happens in anime? I don't think so.
Ever watched Mirai Nikki? It's a fun show about a girl who murders a lot of people to get the attention of the boy she loves. Oh, and one time she ties him up (for days?) to speed up the process. The girl is the most popular female character on MAL for a while now.

BTW, yes, Rin is a twisted girl, and that's what drives the tragic part of the show!

br4dl3yb34r said:
Its the idea that people could think its anything more than fan service and wish fulfillment for pedophiles.

Yes, this is exactly what I hate about the anti-ecchi crowd. They never allow themselves to think ecchi shows contain anything else but fanservice and wish fulfillment. Which is totally wrong.


Again you're equating edginess and offensiveness with quality, and the correlation just isn't there. After finding out you live in Russia I do now have a better understanding of where you're coming from though. I find our differences in philosophy quite interesting. American media that tries to be edgy and offensive for the sake of being edgy and offensive is generally not very good, so that's where I'm coming from.

Yes I'm sure there is more to some Echi shows than fan service and wish fulfillment, but those are the cornerstones of the genre. Without them, they are no longer that genre, so you could say the genre is defined by those things. Nobody watches for the story. Imo its just time that could be better spent watching actual porn or an actual good show. Hell, you'd have time for both if you didn't waste time on Echi.
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br4dl3yb34r said:
Again you're equating edginess and offensiveness with quality, and the correlation just isn't there.

Quality is unrelated to artsiness and trueness.
Quality is craftsmanship - you put in more time, effort and money, and you get out more quality. Anime and manga could have more quality if not for capitalist system that encourages them to work fast, and produce minimum quality that still sells well.
Artsiness is what you seek to achieve. Do you shed light on the downtrodden? Do you seek to make as much money as possible? Do you seek to give shape to your won dreams?
The more noble your goals, the truer your art. Perfectly true piece of art will topple tyrants, solve misunderstandings and in general make the world a better place.

br4dl3yb34r said:
After finding out you live in Russia I do now have a better understanding of where you're coming from though. I find our differences in philosophy quite interesting. American media that tries to be edgy and offensive for the sake of being edgy and offensive is generally not very good, so that's where I'm coming from.

In Russia, there are pop musicians that sing songs on TV and radio. Some of them are even good at what they're doing. But when you gather around a fire with a guitar, you sing different kind of songs. The kind of songs one can buy in a shop or download from internet, but would not be broadcast on a state-controlled channel. Why are we listening to them? Because they're "true". That's the way I see it.
I've heard them called "three chords and a truth" for their technical simplicity.

br4dl3yb34r said:
Yes I'm sure there is more to some Echi shows than fan service and wish fulfillment, but those are the cornerstones of the genre. Without them, they are no longer that genre, so you could say the genre is defined by those things. Nobody watches for the story.

I disagree. Non-ecchi aspects of ecchi anime are perfectly enjoyable both with ecchi and without them. Dog Days would have worked if attacks depleted HP bars overhead instead of clothing. But it's even better with ablative clothes.

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Imo its just time that could be better spent watching actual porn or an actual good show. Hell, you'd have time for both if you didn't waste time on Echi.

The trick is, there is no "actual good show" I can watch instead of some specific ecchi show. There is only one show with the plot of Kodomo no Jikan - it's Kodomo no Jikan.
And even if there is one, I would rather watch Kodomo no Jikan anyway, because I'm not a snob, and I'm not afraid of watching the same show another time.
And anybody who doesn't watch Kodomo no Jikan, or watches Kodomo no Jikan just ogling the girls' panties, is losing out on enjoying other parts of the show.

P.S. Also, your "just watch porn" argument is weak in the first place, and it has been refuted a thousand times already.
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flannan said:
br4dl3yb34r said:
Again you're equating edginess and offensiveness with quality, and the correlation just isn't there.

Quality is unrelated to artsiness and trueness.
Quality is craftsmanship - you put in more time, effort and money, and you get out more quality. Anime and manga could have more quality if not for capitalist system that encourages them to work fast, and produce minimum quality that still sells well.
Artsiness is what you seek to achieve. Do you shed light on the downtrodden? Do you seek to make as much money as possible? Do you seek to give shape to your won dreams?
The more noble your goals, the truer your art. Perfectly true piece of art will topple tyrants, solve misunderstandings and in general make the world a better place.

When I say quality I just mean something that's good (which is obviously subjective) I'm not talking about the individual aspects that comprise it. You say quality is unrelated to artsiness and truthfulness, and I agree a piece of shit can be true, but quality is one of the most important components of good art. Also all your talk about noble ideals is nice, but truth in fiction is subjective. You say a true piece of art can make the world better but, by that logic it can also make the world worse. As they say "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

br4dl3yb34r said:
After finding out you live in Russia I do now have a better understanding of where you're coming from though. I find our differences in philosophy quite interesting. American media that tries to be edgy and offensive for the sake of being edgy and offensive is generally not very good, so that's where I'm coming from.

In Russia, there are pop musicians that sing songs on TV and radio. Some of them are even good at what they're doing. But when you gather around a fire with a guitar, you sing different kind of songs. The kind of songs one can buy in a shop or download from internet, but would not be broadcast on a state-controlled channel. Why are we listening to them? Because they're "true". That's the way I see it.
I've heard them called "three chords and a truth" for their technical simplicity.

We're on the same page on this one.

br4dl3yb34r said:
Yes I'm sure there is more to some Echi shows than fan service and wish fulfillment, but those are the cornerstones of the genre. Without them, they are no longer that genre, so you could say the genre is defined by those things. Nobody watches for the story.

I disagree. Non-ecchi aspects of ecchi anime are perfectly enjoyable both with ecchi and without them. Dog Days would have worked if attacks depleted HP bars overhead instead of clothing. But it's even better with ablative clothes.

The Echi genre is defined by perverted bullshit. You take out the perverted bullshit, and its no longer Echi. That's the point I was making here. Whether its enjoyable or not has nothing to do with it.

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Imo its just time that could be better spent watching actual porn or an actual good show. Hell, you'd have time for both if you didn't waste time on Echi.

The trick is, there is no "actual good show" I can watch instead of some specific ecchi show. There is only one show with the plot of Kodomo no Jikan - it's Kodomo no Jikan.
And even if there is one, I would rather watch Kodomo no Jikan anyway, because I'm not a snob, and I'm not afraid of watching the same show another time.
And anybody who doesn't watch Kodomo no Jikan, or watches Kodomo no Jikan just ogling the girls' panties, is losing out on enjoying other parts of the show.

Yes there are actual good shows. So many of them that its hard to keep track of all of them, which is why I joined this site. But if you think that you want to watch a little girl do sexual shit that's fine, but you can't expect nobody to judge you for it then (and don't give me that crap about not judging people, everyone judges everyone, whether they're willing to admit it or not)

P.S. Also, your "just watch porn" argument is weak in the first place, and it has been refuted a thousand times already.


It just doesn't make sense to me to spend that amount of time watching softcore porn with "story" mixed in. And I'm not searching through the board for a refutation of this argument, so if you could be so kind?
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Damn, messed up the quote mechanic again.
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br4dl3yb34r said:
It just doesn't make sense to me to spend that amount of time watching softcore porn with "story" mixed in. And I'm not searching through the board for a refutation of this argument, so if you could be so kind?

1) Most ecchi isn't so much "softcore porn" as it is "romantic comedy".
Note that some shows, sometimes called "borderline hentai", really are softcore porn, like this season's Masou Gakuen HxH.

2) I spend most of my life in an environment where there is too few women. I like my entertainment to include a lot of them to compensate. Even better if it has some ecchi to underline that.
I think I realized it when I was watching Naruto, and noticed how there is always only one girl per 2 boys there, and that it bothered me.

3) Story takes a while to become interesting. In the meantime, and whenever the story needs a break, spice things up with fanservice!
Come for the fanservice/cute girls, stay for the [whatever the show is good at].
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Because most ecchi anime have really shitty to average story and characters. Ecchi is made to sell DVDs to otaku, not to tell a good story.
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flannan said:
br4dl3yb34r said:
It just doesn't make sense to me to spend that amount of time watching softcore porn with "story" mixed in. And I'm not searching through the board for a refutation of this argument, so if you could be so kind?

1) Most ecchi isn't so much "softcore porn" as it is "romantic comedy".
Note that some shows, sometimes called "borderline hentai", really are softcore porn, like this season's Masou Gakuen HxH.

2) I spend most of my life in an environment where there is too few women. I like my entertainment to include a lot of them to compensate. Even better if it has some ecchi to underline that.
I think I realized it when I was watching Naruto, and noticed how there is always only one girl per 2 boys there, and that it bothered me.

3) Story takes a while to become interesting. In the meantime, and whenever the story needs a break, spice things up with fanservice!
Come for the fanservice/cute girls, stay for the [whatever the show is good at].


2). The real problem was not that there weren't enough but rather how unimportant they were in comparison to the male Characters.

3) first of, story can be interesting pretty fast if done well and if they have to use Fanservice just to hide their flawsw then it means that it is just bad.
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I actually hate it when people complain about an anime because of ecchi stuff in it. ECCHI = HEALTHY HENTAI LOL
A retard is trying to prove his point, thanks.
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Bourmegar said:
flannan said:

1) Most ecchi isn't so much "softcore porn" as it is "romantic comedy".
Note that some shows, sometimes called "borderline hentai", really are softcore porn, like this season's Masou Gakuen HxH.

2) I spend most of my life in an environment where there is too few women. I like my entertainment to include a lot of them to compensate. Even better if it has some ecchi to underline that.
I think I realized it when I was watching Naruto, and noticed how there is always only one girl per 2 boys there, and that it bothered me.

3) Story takes a while to become interesting. In the meantime, and whenever the story needs a break, spice things up with fanservice!
Come for the fanservice/cute girls, stay for the [whatever the show is good at].


2). The real problem was not that there weren't enough but rather how unimportant they were in comparison to the male Characters.

3) first of, story can be interesting pretty fast if done well and if they have to use Fanservice just to hide their flawsw then it means that it is just bad.

2) It varies by anime. A lot.
Some ecchi anime don't have male characters anywhere near important roles. Others have one guy (who might be important/interesting, and might be an abstract concept of a male) and a whole lot of females. Some are more balanced.
In a typical romantic-comedy ecchi, girls are the content, and are as important as it gets. Battle harem risks male MC taking all the glory, but it doesn't always happens like that (for example, Omamori Himari has the female lead take the center stage). And shows about all-female teams, naturally, have the main girls do everything.

3) Some stories work well to become interesting in an episode or two. Some don't. All of them would have more chances with good "advertising".
Also, I don't really care about the flaws of the story. I care about its strengths.
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flannan said:
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2). The real problem was not that there weren't enough but rather how unimportant they were in comparison to the male Characters.

3) first of, story can be interesting pretty fast if done well and if they have to use Fanservice just to hide their flawsw then it means that it is just bad.

2) It varies by anime. A lot.
Some ecchi anime don't have male characters anywhere near important roles. Others have one guy (who might be important/interesting, and might be an abstract concept of a male) and a whole lot of females. Some are more balanced.
In a typical romantic-comedy ecchi, girls are the content, and are as important as it gets. Battle harem risks male MC taking all the glory, but it doesn't always happens like that (for example, Omamori Himari has the female lead take the center stage). And shows about all-female teams, naturally, have the main girls do everything.

3) Some stories work well to become interesting in an episode or two. Some don't. All of them would have more chances with good "advertising".
Also, I don't really care about the flaws of the story. I care about its strengths.


2) well I was Solely Talking about Naruto though. although that might be caused by the mangaka who isn't good at making Female characters.

3) yh some shows (Gintama being a big example of this) take time to get better but don't use such things as fanservice, they just get up steam later. and the add Fanservice just to keep attention is not a good idea because they can rather spend time on making the story and characters better instead (except if the show is full on ecchi). I only care about flaws when they start outnumbering the strengths
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Bourmegar said:
flannan said:

2) It varies by anime. A lot.
Some ecchi anime don't have male characters anywhere near important roles. Others have one guy (who might be important/interesting, and might be an abstract concept of a male) and a whole lot of females. Some are more balanced.
In a typical romantic-comedy ecchi, girls are the content, and are as important as it gets. Battle harem risks male MC taking all the glory, but it doesn't always happens like that (for example, Omamori Himari has the female lead take the center stage). And shows about all-female teams, naturally, have the main girls do everything.

3) Some stories work well to become interesting in an episode or two. Some don't. All of them would have more chances with good "advertising".
Also, I don't really care about the flaws of the story. I care about its strengths.


2) well I was Solely Talking about Naruto though. although that might be caused by the mangaka who isn't good at making Female characters.

3) yh some shows (Gintama being a big example of this) take time to get better but don't use such things as fanservice, they just get up steam later. and the add Fanservice just to keep attention is not a good idea because they can rather spend time on making the story and characters better instead (except if the show is full on ecchi). I only care about flaws when they start outnumbering the strengths

2) Yes, that part of Naruto was pretty bad. The author seems to be averse to female vs male battles (Shikamaru is one of the few who did it, because his fighting style doesn't involve him actually hitting the girl).

3) Yes, I know that. On the other hand, Mahou Sensei Negima is an ecchi anime from the start, and a magical battle manga only after about volume 3. And Dog Days undresses a girl only after they've shown us the cool non-lethal warfare.
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flannan said:
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2) well I was Solely Talking about Naruto though. although that might be caused by the mangaka who isn't good at making Female characters.

3) yh some shows (Gintama being a big example of this) take time to get better but don't use such things as fanservice, they just get up steam later. and the add Fanservice just to keep attention is not a good idea because they can rather spend time on making the story and characters better instead (except if the show is full on ecchi). I only care about flaws when they start outnumbering the strengths

2) Yes, that part of Naruto was pretty bad. The author seems to be averse to female vs male battles (Shikamaru is one of the few who did it, because his fighting style doesn't involve him actually hitting the girl).

3) Yes, I know that. On the other hand, Mahou Sensei Negima is an ecchi anime from the start, and a magical battle manga only after about volume 3. And Dog Days undresses a girl only after they've shown us the cool non-lethal warfare.


2) well to be Honest, I find that pretty sexist, The ladies don't fight often or getting their butt kicked in Naruto. That is very insulting towards women tbh.
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My guess is that it's so close to being basically porn. Some think it's just about lewd stuff end of story. I haven't watched allot of Ecchi but sometimes they have just as good plots as a ordinary anime! Sometimes better to my surprise. Boils down a persons preference.
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Many people don't tend to enjoy it ad main plot, cause that means there's no plot.


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The answer of this question is relatively simple.The reason is because people think ecchi animes are meaningless.

Most people think that fanservice are just distracting and disturbing.Yes,I do admit that this is the truth.However,I have seen some animes use fanservice as their setting and character development,which I think it's very unique and wise.

For instance,Yosuga no sora is a kind of show that uses ecchi scenes to push the character development forward or use them as a happy ending and it's definitely more reasonable and non-distracting.

Life is empty without anime

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It's often just a huge distraction from the whole plotline and man it's just so cringy looking at such unrealistic proportions like cmon bro.
Like, the only show I tolerate with "ecchi" vibes is Kill La Kill since it's not really intended to be jack off material ya feel me.
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rebornnora said:
I admit, i love those genre's. however, from time to time, i read this comments from different anime websites and some have hate comments about a specific ecchi anime like Highschool dxd, one salty person saying people who view this anime is nothing but perverts, caring about the boobs instead of the plot. well, say what you will, i love these kind of anime and i dont care if there is a plot, i don't see your lost. just don't watch it if you hate it. but why do they hate? whats your guys opinion?


As much as I like kink you'd want to watch something not wasting time going through the motions. Even when the show you are watching is openly about sexuality and steals the camera for kink or whatever dumb shit, even when you don't care about anything you are watching and the show is minimal substance to begin with, you can see this is more about a japanese relic of ancient times where wifi wasn't around every corner of every hole and piracy wasn't even a thing, so at best it can be something interesting and that doesn't happen much at all, at worst it's something people keep hidden and won't ever leave them with anything at the end of every single episode.
It's mostly a thing that exists because, while not being a culprit or anything, animes in general have low standarts beyond art styles and welcome anything to make things interesting in the slightest like, you know, crazy hair and whatever and a lot of people have to actively dig the depths of internet to stick to whoever develops good stuff.
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When it's comes to ecchi there's two side

1. the haters who complain and slut shame the female chactecters

2. The people who love the ecchi genre
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cuz we just need the plot, not the service!

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rebornnora said:
I admit, i love those genre's. however, from time to time, i read this comments from different anime websites and some have hate comments about a specific ecchi anime like Highschool dxd, one salty person saying people who view this anime is nothing but perverts, caring about the boobs instead of the plot. well, say what you will, i love these kind of anime and i dont care if there is a plot, i don't see your lost. just don't watch it if you hate it. but why do they hate? whats your guys opinion?


Wait, who is 'EVERYONE'? As far as I know, ecchi genre tend to be popular with (horny) straight guys. Heck, you can see the rating of No Game No Life, Highschool of the Dead, High School DxD, etc etc. They are very popular here. 456,771 MAL user completed No Game no Life!


The one that normally dislike ecchi genre are women. And no straight women want to watch DD cup being shoved down to their face every 5 minutes. Of course there's many awesome female character in ecchi, but most of them spend 80% their time chasing men so eehhh

Don't get me wrong. I don't hate ecchi. I watch show like Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, High School of The Dead, etc et c. But then again I'm a huge fan of action and horror. Unless the story really entertain me, I rarely want to watch them
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Because there exists another gender —called 'female'— outside of the anime universe. Surprise? Women do not like seeing their gender being objectified, and yes; for us these characters do come across as a walking set of breasts.

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they just act like saints :D hahahha

I love ecchi,

I start from shounen to seinen
seinen to psychological
psychological to horror
horror to romance
romance to slice of life
slice of life to harem
harem to ecchi


The world is cruel, ugly and pitiful. Let's watch anime and make it colorful
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Um, ecchi Isn't a real genre for starters(it exists for the same reason as Blood and Gor, except is even more damaging), the only reason such exists, is because the author/studio wants such to sell, without the need to actually put effort into making it good.

It's always to replace quality, it in no way, shape or form, can even be used as a supplement either, It's that damaging.

It completely ruins any scene its in, and royally destroys any integrity the characters might have had, if not for the ecchi scene.
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DoctorSexy said:
When it's comes to ecchi there's two side

1. the haters who complain and slut shame the female chactecters

2. The people who love the ecchi genre



We don't need to keep this sides stuff up tho:/ everyone or most people likes kink, which comes in all kinds, not just fanservice or ecchi or whatever, but it's often not relevant and stupid and ugly, monogataris are mixed bags but at least those shows are openly about sexuality and one episode can leave you with something even if it's pretentious clichè pep talk or whatever,
It wouldn't be wrong to say people "bandwagon" sides in threads but that's an argument feeding itself when the animes are the actual thing to talk about.
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Well, from my point of view, it is the equivalent of watching porn. Disgusting.
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They don't understand the beauty of ecchi. In my opinion ecchi adds more to the plot and development of characters. usually making it more comical.
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Lol all these insults and convoluted arguments defending a crap genre

Shit characters
Shit writing
Shit plot
Trying to be something more but fails
Forced romance
Forced situations where there would be fanservice
Copy paste everything

To Love Ru isn't clever in anyway.. It's generic harem #2001

High school DxD is another generic harem

People use insults to others who dislike them hating harems are pathetic.. Not to mention people defending them are just contradicting themselves.. First they say it's better than hentai because it has a plot yet dismisses that same argument when people say "the plot is shit" then it's followed by "it's a harem it's only for fanservice" lol my god. Generic is the main problem because it has either shit substance or none whatsoever. Then they want to say other genres are generic to try and take the heat off(pathetic) we aren't expecting Monster level of writing just decent writing which most don't have
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Hesohandsome said:
They don't understand the beauty of ecchi. In my opinion ecchi adds more to the plot and development of characters. usually making it more comical.
Hesohandsome said:
They don't understand the beauty of ecchi. In my opinion ecchi adds more to the plot and development of characters. usually making it more comical.


Lol wut... God I hope this is a joke because if not you're one of the main reasons the genre is really bad
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It's stupid to me. They try too hard with the panties in your face situation. That's the very reason I could not get through the first episode of High School Girls back then. I didn't realize it was of that genre at the time but when I read more about it, I realized it is not for me.
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Like I said it makes it more comical, meaning more people get hurt, meaning i like. Don't push your opinions.
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The only strength of ecchi that I found is it make comedic events funnier because of the absurdity. Its rare to find a good story in a ecchi title and most of the time the same title would be better of if it removed those elements. Bakemonogatari is a good example of an ecchi series that would be better without the ecchi elements.
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The only strength of ecchi that I found is it make comedic events funnier because of the absurdity. Its rare to find a good story in a ecchi title and most of the time the same title would be better of if it removed those elements. Bakemonogatari is a good example of an ecchi series that would be better without the ecchi elements.


So would be every monogatari, but they are still shows dealing with sexuality and nise used the camera to imply it's the girls to make use of kink and sexuality to get their respective stances across. Also I agree about the comedic potential because the premises are so stupid.
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The joy of the ecchi genre is the very thing that makes it so despised. The purpose of ecchi is to be a c*cktease. And that's what I enjoy it for.

But for most people, it's an 'all' or 'none' kind of deal. If they want sexualization, they'll go for porn. If not porn, they'll just take something moderate or lower in the fanservice category.

Ecchi also has a habit of being very self aware, and I do love it for being self-aware in a funny way. From HOTD's 600mph Breast Rave Party to DxD's trolling of the 'chivalrous pervert' MC, it can be enjoyable. Yet with that said, being self-aware does not automatically equate to quality, and for people looking for something of substance, self-awareness typically is counted as a mark against rather then towards.

It's a taste not all will enjoy. It's like the 'moderate' in hotsauce. Most people either prefer mild or none, and then there are those who want the full blast.
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Rebornna, has it ever dawned upon you that you've been asking the same question for a year?

You have NEVER accepted any answer/explanation to this question, it's time to give it up.
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It's funny this thread is frequently repeated. You won't convert anyone into ecchi lover because you lack arguments.
Ecchi is super popular hence just to suppress excitement voices strong hateful voices are necessary otherwise ecchi will be the only genre.
I don't like ecchi so...
If look only for boobs then stop pretending hentai is calling for you.
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rebornnora said:
say what you will, i love these kind of anime and i dont care if there is a plot, i don't see your lost. just don't watch it if you hate it. but why do they hate? whats your guys opinion

People hate it because they feel like they lost time. They would rather spend their time watching something that they enjoy and clearly they don't enjoy ecchi; hence, they don't watch that genre anymore.


People will insult each other to justify their actions.
"They are -insert insult here- because they like ecchi."
"They are -insert insult here- because they don't like ecchi."
If you love ecchi so much, then why do you wonder why others hate it? Just worry about yourself instead of what others think about it. Enjoy the world you live in while other people who have different opinions will enjoy the world that they live in.
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Because it's being overused to the point people are sick of it. Unfortunately the market in the anime industry thrives on sex appeal and Waifu material. When they shoe horn lesbian subtext and forced booby grabs in an all girl cast slice of life comedy, then it will more likely sell. Anime is a business. The focus way too much on the ecchi scenes rather than working on the characters.

If you think sex appeal makes a character better than don't you think that is pretty shallow? People just want better handled anime rather then seeing the same crap every season.
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