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Oct 22, 2018 8:36 PM

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phs_togusa said:
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Go on, tell me how garbage monster and berserk are

OT: Clannad


Naoki Urasawa's Monster is WAY too fucking slow for its own good and consistently breaks one's suspension of disbelief, which ultimately defeats the so-called "realism" it's hailed for. Tell me how a fugitive with wanted posters plastered everywhere is able to walk around in broad daylight without so much as a fucking disguise and STILL remain on the run from the law. Tell me how Tenma is able to operate on people without sterilised equipment and the person manages to make a full recovery. Tell me how Dr. Becker is able to maintain his certification despite effectively being treated as the manga's "angel of death." It may not be abject garbage, but it's still overrated to high heaven and certainly NOT deserving of infinite praise.

Berserk is dead and Kentaro Miura killed it. GAA Berserk at this point in time only encapsulates less than 1/4th of the manga's story and yet somehow, the (admittedly) masterful storytelling of a protracted flashback arc is enough to garner praise of a manga which at this point in time, has been absolute rubbish for the last 13-something years of its publication? The manga may still have its high points, but the storytelling is meandering to a screeching halt as the combination of hiatuses plus random plot elements being shoehorned in (i.e. the fucking Sea God arc, 10 fucking years on a boat, magic seals suppressing the powers of the brand of sacrifice, Farnese and Schierke effectively being no better than harem additions, etc) more or less ensure that anything meaningful from the manga at this point in time (i.e. Griffith's kingdom) won't be impactful in the long run.

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OT: Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Insert Kircheis.meme here.


god, I've pretty much dropped berserk at this point. Which is insane because I truly loved the golden age arc and I really enjoyed the two after that as well. But I read a few volumes into the millennium empire arc and my god, shockingly bad. What happened to my realistic, philosophical medieval drama? This is just a completely basic shounen with an embarrassingly terrible cast of side characters and a lot of pointless rape. Granted the art is beautiful but the story is just a vacuum. Truly some X Files season 8 level disappointment.

ot watched the first three episodes of spice and wolf recently and found them.truly terrible. Granted I only saw the first three episodes so can't speak for the rest of the series but yeh petty unimpressive stuff
Oct 24, 2018 4:48 PM
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simonephone said:

god, I've pretty much dropped berserk at this point. Which is insane because I truly loved the golden age arc and I really enjoyed the two after that as well. But I read a few volumes into the millennium empire arc and my god, shockingly bad. What happened to my realistic, philosophical medieval drama? This is just a completely basic shounen with an embarrassingly terrible cast of side characters and a lot of pointless rape. Granted the art is beautiful but the story is just a vacuum. Truly some X Files season 8 level disappointment.

ot watched the first three episodes of spice and wolf recently and found them.truly terrible. Granted I only saw the first three episodes so can't speak for the rest of the series but yeh petty unimpressive stuff


The Falcon of the Millennium Empire arc was honestly the best arc in recent memory largely because it DIDN'T focus on Guts, Casca, et al and put GRIFFITH of all people into the spotlight. Make of that what you will.
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Oct 25, 2018 5:41 AM

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phs_togusa said:
simonephone said:

god, I've pretty much dropped berserk at this point. Which is insane because I truly loved the golden age arc and I really enjoyed the two after that as well. But I read a few volumes into the millennium empire arc and my god, shockingly bad. What happened to my realistic, philosophical medieval drama? This is just a completely basic shounen with an embarrassingly terrible cast of side characters and a lot of pointless rape. Granted the art is beautiful but the story is just a vacuum. Truly some X Files season 8 level disappointment.

ot watched the first three episodes of spice and wolf recently and found them.truly terrible. Granted I only saw the first three episodes so can't speak for the rest of the series but yeh petty unimpressive stuff


The Falcon of the Millennium Empire arc was honestly the best arc in recent memory largely because it DIDN'T focus on Guts, Casca, et al and put GRIFFITH of all people into the spotlight. Make of that what you will.


well I guess I'll have to read more of if cause so far all I've got to see is Guts hanging out with stupid children and saving a town from rape goblins. Im talking about like volumes 22 to 26, haven't enjoyed any of this series since volume 21. I just stopped reading it for a while cause it's just been sooooo disappointing
Nov 13, 2018 4:59 PM

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- Attack on Titans
-Boku no Hero academia
-Tokyo Ghoul (The first anime was and is still praised by a lot of people, I guess it counts)
-S;G 0 (A shitty cashgrab sequel for an anime that didn't need it)
-Elfen Lied

And that's all
May 12, 2019 11:42 PM
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Devil May Cry 5 - a huge fan of series, despised the fanfic level of writing, terrible level design and third of the game being boss stages as well as V getting really stale after the first playthrough).

Attack on Titan - insanely repetative, color pallet of every shade of crap you can imagine, abuses cliffhangers and long term plot secrets too much

FMA Brotherhood - Now listen me out on this one, I have only seen a few episodes and my opinion can easily change, but compared to the 2003 version, the directing and animation were ultra bland and it lacked any type of soul. It is on my - to give a second chance list

Higashi no Eden - some of the blandest and most boring stuff I've seen. How can the protags be this boring, it's inhuman.

May 27, 2019 7:55 PM
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AOT (Season 2 specifically). The first season started off good then entered a steady decline, but S2 was just a complete incoherent mess!
May 27, 2019 7:59 PM
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Wait Koe no Katachi was pretty trash. Watched the film and thought that it sucked but there was probably a good book behind it. Reading manga now, pretty good. Film though was just dumb I thought
Apr 5, 2020 8:43 AM

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That tennis anime "the stars align" it is such a trash show, it has its ups here and there but every character for the exception of 1 are just utter trash, and one is literally a gary stu but muh diversity calls this anime the second coming of jesus, the anime never progresses the sub stories it creates other than the MC and his friend, really, those 12 episodes felt like wasting my time. And the way they portray the problems is just unrealistic for a show that presents itself as something that is going to be realistic because of the problems it shows, but at the end is just tumblr level of character building.

Also your name because the characters are shit, the worse part is that i can't give it a worse grade because i enjoyed the movie's art because of how impressive it is and kind of got me invested into it till the characters never really progressed enough for them to build a relationship, i don't even remember the names of the characters from that movie which is kinda fitting because they had nothing special to be remembered.
Apr 6, 2020 6:42 PM
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SassyBryan said:
First post here, so hello!

Just list things you can't stand that receive boundless amounts of praise:
1) Gurren Lagann- Absolute garbage. I can't find anything good about this
2) Clannad/AS- Why are these popular? Maybe because people are easily entertained by things that play with emotions, who knows?

edit: Deleted Monster and Cowboy Beop


What you feel about Clannad is kind of how I feel about a few Key anime adaptations in general. They often feel very emotionally manipulative and contrived, and the characters have these really annoying quirks that are supposed to be endearing and cute, but I just find them to be annoying.
Apr 8, 2020 3:32 PM

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Honey_Flash said:
What you feel about Clannad is kind of how I feel about a few Key anime adaptations in general. They often feel very emotionally manipulative and contrived, and the characters have these really annoying quirks that are supposed to be endearing and cute, but I just find them to be annoying.


Nice to see folks exactly feeling like me when it comes to Nakige in general. The MC mostly comes off as a fuccboi, whereas the female parts act and sound like 6 years old simps on 17 years old bodies. When you break it apart, it's very off putting. It's the kind of thing making me feel slimy after I watch it, as it passes off as psychodrama torturing porn overall. It being on the top 50 of MAL is one of the biggest anomaly there is.
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The usual garbage shit that gets praised because a bunch of 14 years old kids that only watched that one anime and think its the best thing ever Like Mha,SAO, and prbly Jojo but I think jojo is pretty alright but the fans are the dumb ones
May 14, 2020 11:53 AM

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So i dislike "Evangelion", i hate it with passion. Never disliked an anime like this one.
I dislike "Clannad",
I also hate all "harem" anime & excessive/gratuitous fanservice (ecchi).
"Tokyo Ghoul" was meh but it was bearable, just boring.
but the biggest disappointment was "Attack On Titan" wasted my time watching S1.
I didn't like "Elfen Lied" but the OST was great. The premise had potential but the anime turned out to be trash.

"No Game No Lie" is sh*t. Sorry i ain't sorry. It's the worst. I don't know why ppl like that incest-ish garbage. It's a really lame romcom. Full of stereotypes and lame clichés, same goes to "Stein's Gate". It was pretentious, they tried so hard but it was meh. Tried to watch it twice, but i really disliked how the characters were portrayed. They seemed uni-dimensional. They ruined a great sci-fi concept with lame writing.

Now my inner-kid is happy for ranting about lame-a** anime xD

May 28, 2020 12:59 PM
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A Silent Voice - I hate it for how overly dramatic it is and how it inserts humour in the most incongruous ways (the mom leaning in horizontally from behind the door was so WTF in that one scene). I hate it even more for how it had moments and passages that were actually good. Not that I can remember them.

Steins;Gate - well, I don't hate the anime, I just found it boring and uninteresting, but I hate the fact that I can't say that without being downvoted into oblivion, even when I frame it as absolutely my personal opinion.
Nov 29, 2020 1:59 AM

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I don't necessary hate it but if I had to choose one it would be Cowboy Bebop. Not only did I find the show way overhyped, the rabid fanbase that will literally take a bullet for the series make me despise it more and more with each lousy defense presented.
Dec 28, 2020 8:03 AM

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anime that i hate with a fiery passion:

- serial experiments LAME
- texhnolyze
- and also a little bit crayon shin-chan
Mar 16, 2021 1:51 AM

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Hanzatsu92 said:
So i dislike "Evangelion", i hate it with passion. Never disliked an anime like this one.
I dislike "Clannad",
I also hate all "harem" anime & excessive/gratuitous fanservice (ecchi).
"Tokyo Ghoul" was meh but it was bearable, just boring.
but the biggest disappointment was "Attack On Titan" wasted my time watching S1.
I didn't like "Elfen Lied" but the OST was great. The premise had potential but the anime turned out to be trash.

"No Game No Lie" is sh*t. Sorry i ain't sorry. It's the worst. I don't know why ppl like that incest-ish garbage. It's a really lame romcom. Full of stereotypes and lame clichés, same goes to "Stein's Gate". It was pretentious, they tried so hard but it was meh. Tried to watch it twice, but i really disliked how the characters were portrayed. They seemed uni-dimensional. They ruined a great sci-fi concept with lame writing.

Now my inner-kid is happy for ranting about lame-a** anime xD



Half of those aren't even close to being critically acclaimed. This isn't a "list anime you dislike" thread
Mar 16, 2021 4:57 PM

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@JeanTitor
Hmm so you're saying Evangelion, Elfen Lied and Attack On Titan, Clannad, Tokyo Ghoul (1st S) and Stein's Gate aren't critically acclaimed?
Except maybe for "No game No Life" which i added to the list due to its sheer popularity among anime fans worldwide and topping the isekai genre.

I mean you can read about it online. Look at their rotten tomatoes score. See how many people universally bought their copies/their high sales figures, how many people have written positive reviews about them, how many lists they've topped, how many anime critics have theorized about them, praised them, wrote articles and disserations about them, the awards they've won/were nominated for, and the overall popularity they have among anime fans and the "elitists".

So either you're being intentionally dismissive or plain misinformed.
Either way, you do NOT get to tell me what to post on this thread, just because you don't agree with it.
Mar 16, 2021 6:09 PM

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@JeanTitor
Hmm so you're saying Evangelion, Elfen Lied and Attack On Titan, Clannad, Tokyo Ghoul (1st S) and Stein's Gate aren't critically acclaimed?
Except maybe for "No game No Life" which i added to the list due to its sheer popularity among anime fans worldwide and topping the isekai genre.

I mean you can read about it online. Look at their rotten tomatoes score. See how many people universally bought their copies/their high sales figures, how many people have written positive reviews about them, how many lists they've topped, how many anime critics have theorized about them, praised them, wrote articles and disserations about them, the awards they've won/were nominated for, and the overall popularity they have among anime fans and the "elitists".

So either you're being intentionally dismissive or plain misinformed.
Either way, you do NOT get to tell me what to post on this thread, just because you don't agree with it.


I said "Half of those aren't even close to being critically acclaimed."
You listed six shows: Elfen Lied, No Game No Life, Tokyo Ghoul, AoT, Steins;Gate, and Clannad.

Tokyo Ghoul is ranked #827. Tokyo Ghouls' top four reviews have an average rating of 5.0
Elfen Lied, which is almost universally lambasted is ranked #1381, with its top fours reviews averaging out to a rating of 6.25.
For reference, mainstream shounen such as Dragon Ball, Naruto, Naruto Shippuden, MHA, etc. are all ranked somewhat to significantly higher.

Of the anime you listed, only two are actually critically acclaimed (AoT, SG). Two are widely regarded as trash and undeserving of their popularity (EL, TG). Clannad is mid — perhaps you're conflating it with the After Story; even though they are placed hundreds apart. NGNL is mid on MAL, but critically hated. Its score seems to be artificially inflated, maybe due to ecchi fans. There are some shows which are ranked low but celebrated by critics, but these aren't. For a specific reference, you could check the Anime Relations lists on critic clubs, such as Metacritic for MAL or Critics and Connoisseurs.

You don't seem to understand that "critically acclaimed" doesn't mean "relatively popular."
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@JeanTitor
(You don't seem to understand that "critically acclaimed" doesn't mean "relatively popular.")

It's ironic... Then he proceeds to list "mainsteam shounen as placed higher" and his "literary critically universally correct" references by listing "popular" MAL lists and "ranks" weeb "critics" and reviews related to MAL and score on MAL and more edgy teen "Connoisseurs" clubs on MAL (which has a dozen or two users on MAL that represents the finest "authors" the medium has ever known)...

If Evangelion, Elfen Lied & Clannad are not critically acclaimed then i don't know which anime ever will be. You're clearly either an edgy user swayed by popular opinion, a plain ol' delusional biased or simply dismissive.
If you think that only AOT and SG are critically acclaimed.. (figures! because they are among the "popular" hyped anime in MAL you rely your "connoisseur" statement on). Then that leads me to think you're simply projecting.

BTW, since it didn't seem to get through... What i post on here is none of your business. If you're not the one who opened up the discussion, and you find it personally irrelevant to the topic at hand or "hors-sujet". Then feel free to report it & spare me your haughty cringe-worthy attitude. BYE!
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