| One Piece is the best HxH is second Try to finish the Arlong-arc(39 ep) if you don´t like it until then it´s most likely just not your cup of tea |
geralt said: HxH 2011 is too inconsistent for it to be considered the best. If it remained as good as the phantom troupe, I'd agree, but in reality it has too many lows. When even its most praised arc starts with an undewhelming 25 episodes or so, it cant match up to other contenders which were solid all the way thtough. This. One Piece, FMA and Rurouni Kenshin are better for me, while I'd put Naruto (with a little edge over), AoT and Magi on par with it. They are more consistent. One Piece offers a wider variety of interesting characters and locations. OP and FMA have more intricate plots and the events allow for greater circumstances. All 3 provide a wider variety of emotions, from some of the funniest stuff in anime to some of the saddest. |
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| You wont find better writing then the Chimera ant arc especially within WSJ |
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Squirtroll said: Yes Naruto, and exaggerations don't help much. It is like 45% filler but even with that holding it back I'd say it's still overall better than HxH which hasn't had nearly the same amount and quality of highs as Naruto has had even just counting Naruto's first series which is almost half filler.IntroverTurtle said: Yes and having better worlds, stories, characters, etc does. I can understand One Piece but Naruto? ROFLMAO. Naruto is like 75% filler and when you get a real episode, half of it is flashbacks. |
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| nope. im at episode 40 atm and it's good , but not great. can't understand all those 10/10s. personally i still think the filler-cleaned version of bleach is the best (long running) shounen (from my list). the genre is all about awesome fights and i haven't seen a better one than ichigo vs ulquiorra gave bleach a 7,5 and i think that's fair Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
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Valourtore said: Naruto is good for most part until after the death of the First Hokage; the story seems to dilute and their powers get more and more absurd over time. Then again it's been a while (5 years) and I would maybe give it another go... = Naruto has been bad since timeskip HxH has easy to pickout flaws, but it's still great. The election arc is amazing even though greed island is still "Meh". One Piece has been consistent for 800 chapters so that's pretty nice. Haven't read/watched much, but JoJo's pretty nice too. I'm still reading part 5, so only time will tell if it keeps up it's consistency. Naruto filler brings it really really down, but even without it it's still been awful since the pain arc. Which was what, 6 years ago? Yeah. Candor said: doesn't erase the fact that it's the best written arc in WSJ to date. The content of the Chimera Ant arc almost had the writing of a legitimate novel not a shitty shounen jump manga, whether in its storytelling, themes, or how things started/concluded. It just happened to be in WSJ. There exist people who like Chimera Ant? O.O? I'm not alone! idk about best written arc in wsj though, aside from greed island it's the worst of the series lol But it's still pretty good. The election arc is like...ten times better alone though. |
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| I'm struggling to finish HxH.. thats third time I'm giving it a try :( |
Valourtore said: pufonD said: I'm struggling to finish HxH.. thats third time I'm giving it a try :( =0 Where are you now? Tossing a lifesaver overboard. Episode 27 or so ? |
Valourtore said: pufonD said: Episode 27 or so ? I personally find the Chimera Ant arc to be the hallmark of HxH...and that arc is missing from the first adaptation... Still, are you anywhere close to the Phantom Troupe arc yet (you will know)? People seem to agree that this arc is when HxH truly begins to shine. Nah, I believe last time I watched it Gon was being beaten the shit out of him by that Ninja guy which made my eyes roll through most of the episode |
| There is nothing close to HXH in terms of world building and shounen type as i see fit if there is any feel free to recommend me something but it is also one of the show's with so many questions yet so few episodes while BIG shounen like fairytail,Naruto get's all the filler's they want and their mangaka isn't ill and have many material what a cruel world we live in why does the good one's die first? |
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| It isn't the best but it's better than One Piece, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Bleach and others. However I like FMA more |
lxlicybulletlxl said: What? Are you going to tell me that OP's fights are better than FMAB's?the fight scenes are possibly the worst of any anime I've ever watched |
pufonD said: I'm struggling to finish HxH.. thats third time I'm giving it a try :( If you are watching the first adaptation, just drop it. It's one of the most boring I've watched and 1 of the only 2 anime I've dropped. The 2011 version is way better. Also, the start is slow, one of the slowest in anime, but since you've watched most of it in the 99 version, you can just start from where you left off. Granted your complaint about the beating never goes away. If you don't mind un-specific spoilers Also, the arcs that get the most praise are Yorknew which is pretty close to where you are. Just a really short arc considered the worst, then another short one considered okay to go through. Greed Island is also pretty boring, but the arc after that is pretty controversial. You may love it or hate it depending on what you look for. All in all, a lot of the praise comes from people who think it's so much different from other shounen (it's really not, but different = good for them), and mostly from the 2 arcs I mentioned. The second one gets a lot of praise for a specific character, so you can look out for that too. Namaywa said: There is nothing close to HXH in terms of world building and shounen type as i see fit if there is any feel free to recommend me something but it is also one of the show's with so many questions yet so few episodes while BIG shounen like fairytail,Naruto get's all the filler's they want and their mangaka isn't ill and have many material what a cruel world we live in why does the good one's die first? Actually, I find HxH to be one of the most disappointing when it comes to worldbuilding. It promises a lot and delivers little. Many of the locations they go to are unexplored or just replicas of typical settings with little to distinguish them. We see little of native creatures, customs or even many organizations. It also doesn't have nearly as much of a mystery aspect to defining events of the world or history of characters. Naruto is much better in that regard. FMA and One Piece are the best when it comes to shounen worldbuilding though. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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FloatingIdiot said: HxH isn't really a battle shounen. It's written mostly to a shounen demographic but the focus isn't on battles. That's why I see comparing it to stuff like YYH as apples and oranges. Personally, HxH is my favorite anime and don't really think I like the battle shounen genre. The focus of battle shonen is never(usually) primarily on the battles itself, but what leads up to it. And IIRC, HXH has battles pretty much every arc. One Piece is about pirates not martial artists, but uh, I would personally classify it as battle shonen. Is battles a primary element? Is it shonen? It's battle shonen. Hunter x Hunter has a battle system. It's a battle shonen posterboy. |
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| HxH 2011 is like 99% of the (badly paced) LN adaptions out there, and 1999 is the Rokka of Hunter x Hunter anime, not in term of perfect 1 for 1 adaption, but a good example of good pacing. I guess that's why Rokka and HxH 1999 couldn't survive this generation. Bleh. lxlicybulletlxl said: Don't get your hope up, the final 'arc' was pretty bad.FMA:B must finish amazingly, because I'm nearly 50 episodes in and I have absolutely no idea how it could be placed in the same category as a One Piece, for example. It's surely subjective in many ways, but there's very little emotional depth to me, the fight scenes are possibly the worst of any anime I've ever watched (which admittedly isn't a huge array), the story is OK (not great), and the 'verse itself isn't really that amazing. I'm still only like 300-400 episodes into One Piece as well, but from what I've seen of that it's lightyears ahead of Brotherhood, in my own opinion. What exactly makes it so highly rated? |
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| Maybe? The series' high point was yorkshin, but it never really matched that arc again. Chimera ant arc was close, but felt dragged out at times, had random characters, and underwhelming fights. Shippuden post Hidan and Kakuzu arc is also great, but being plauged with terrible filler, incompetent directors/team, and a slow start makes it easy for people to ignore it's great qualities. Naruto's saving grace from this is the characters, villians, fights, and story progression, which it does better than bleach, op, fairy tail, and even HxH at times though, so it has that going for it. Brotherhood is also as good as HxH. YYH is the best shonen ever though tbh. |
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| Shounen is not limited to: One Piece, Full Metall Alchemist, Fairy Tail, Bleach, Dragon Ball, D Gray Man or Hunter X Hunter. There exist: Slam Dunk, Hajime No Ipo, Trigun, Beta X, Saint Seiya, Yuyu Hakusho, and Mahou Sensei Negima (The manga at the half part is exelent) Also if Sakura Card Captor (shoujo) would be shounen, would kik HxH ass. We should consider shojo as well because it is for girls of the same age as shounen |
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| I love one pice, but it just isn't as good as FamB or HxH. I think they're the best shonen animes, but HxH is better in my opinion. |
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| FMA 2003 series is better. Better cast of characters, more depth and philosophy and a surprisingly mature atmosphere, especially for a shonen anime. Though HxH is still a solid shonen. I've seen a bit of One Piece and it's mediocre at best. Worldbuilding is good if nothing else. |
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| It's great, but the arcs were a hit or miss for me quite often. |
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| HXH is easily the best shounen anime out there, but I don't even consider it a shounen. Most people said that the begging is boring while they were running through the tunnel and shit, but nope. I was loving the series when I saw that little green fucker named gon catch that big ass fish. I'm like this right here is going to be the best shounen ever. The you got that one fat ass trying to poison the rookies, like what the fuck lol "RUUUUKIE CRUSHER" Then You saw Gon's undying spirit while that ninja was giving him an ass beating that his dad never was able to give him. Like ging be the worst fucking father. Bitch straight up abandoned his son. Like Gon was lucky though. If he had a good father he wouldn't be able to relate with Gohan. Then that boy you love named Gon who was innocent as shit become friends with a fucking child psychopath, and by the end of the series become so fucked up in the head all Gon could think of was ripping that genderless puppet looking ass cat's head off. |
| I'm not sure if it is the best but it is definitely a top-tier shounen. It is up there with FMAB. However I rate FMAB higher perhaps because it is a completed story and it is as if the mangaka wrote the manga with a complete story already in mind (if that makes sense) so everything was tied up very nicely. I personally also like One Piece but am very aware it is not the best shounen or even one of the best- it is just something I enjoy. Gintama is also IMO an excellent shounen but it is not for those who crave constant action. |
| Lolnope. Obvious FMA:B is the goat of Shonen is obvious. |
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| hunter x hunter 1999 : easily best shounen out there in the second place : fma & the hxh 2011 and why is the 90s version is better ? it because Kazuhiro Furuhashi |
| Gintama's great. But it's 60% comedy and 40% action |
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Sparteh said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnt5zE-Cu1A Here is your reasonHxH - the WORST SHOUNEN I HAVE EVER SEEN! I will never understand why does it have this high rating. NEVER |
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| When people compare worldbuilding in HxH to others like Naruto or OP, keep in mind how much less space HxH has had to work with. It has 351 chapters to Naruto's 700 and OP's 800+. Imo, OP's world building didnt get particularly noticeable until you reach around Enies Lobby and start seeing more of the marines and World Government. For Naruto, that wasnt until far into the time skip when you see significantly more of the other villages (you saw the Sand a bit in the Chunin exams but that was it). In contrast, HxH has had many less chapters which is one reason its worldbuilding may appear less than the others. Imo, its fine since its characters and focus shines better overall. I think one other big plus HxH has over other battle shonens is the intelligence it approaches its battles with. Unlike shows like Naruto or Bleach where characters straight out explain abilities and powers, HxH makes keeping powers a secret, deductions, and strategies prebattle far more important and meaningful. And it has less pure "willpower" moments like OP where the characters win with their tenacity and determination and more to do with cleverness. I think thats why I like it more as a battle shonen. Some people have brought up other shows like FMA/Brotherhood. Imo, this one is better with some fights and clever in some ways, but I have always found HxH to be the more intelligent series. FMA isnt unintelligent in some of its approaches and villains and ways of defeating them, but HxH's nen and calculating battles are much cooler and enjoyable to watch for me. I also personally thought FMA could try to be a tad philosophical/preachy with some themes, whereas I didnt feel that with HxH. It didnt get as preachy as Naruto at least. But yes, I see HxH as the best shonen. Its cast and varied story are great too IMO. You get everything from a video game arc to a monster exterminating arc, etc. |
| No, I don't think so. Even if I ignore the Chimera ant arc, it still only really has Yorkshin that stands out. I like the other arcs except Greed Island, but they are good not brilliant or amazing. The area the show doesn't succeed at from my perspective is the characters. I don't find the main cast great, the most interesting characters in the show are mysterious characters that feel they will never be explored well enough, like Hisoka and the Zoldycks. I find Gon's character inconsistent and it's really hard to root for him, he just rubs me the wrong way way before the CA arc happened. Killua is the best one, and while I liked his development, his character is too dependent on Gon. It would be interesting to see his character now if the manga currently continues it's run. I was never able to be emotionally invested in the series like other shounen. The series doesn't feel like it has a ''heart'' for me. Only thing that I really care about is it's story and that came to a halt with the CA arc. |
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| HxH wouldn't even make my top 10 best shounen. |
| Wow, and back in 2014 is was supposed to be the holy grail of anime. Give it time and peoples mind change, no joke. |
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