| Sometimes I feel like death (or rape scene) can be a cheap way for someone to "feel" because it is overused and the easiest way for someone to feel sad for the characters. Just like every trope and cliches, it's good if done properly. I just wish more anime wouldn't rely only on those tactics. That's just my two cents tho. |
| It's almost as if death is a sad thing. |
| only if : >excecuted right >actually give a sense >proper use of death flag >actually needed >nice building |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Almost everything is cliches anyways, but it depends on how they use it. |
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Valaskjalf said: It's almost as if death is a sad thing. |
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absentminded said: only if : >excecuted right >actually give a sense >proper use of death flag >actually needed >nice building This right here^ Code Geass |
| Franco's death is sad now look what happened to Spain and its separatists |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| I always wondered what if one day, I became so used to these death feels, that I don't mourn for anyone anymore. Just a joke. |
Your taste in Anime is shit. Because you can't differentiate between what's good and bad. How sad. |
| The best 'feels' I felt is in Colorful, and in Fight Club, when Brad Pitt was shaved |
| Over 150,000 people die a day it was bound to happen in anime at some point. As for rape I don't think I have watched any anime that took it that far. |
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| Apparently it can put a shit anime on the 13th spot in top anime. |
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ExTamplier said: Anything sad is at least an 8.Apparently it can put a shit anime on the 13th spot in top anime. |
incisorr said: i love it when people start acting like some neutral almighty unbiased godly judge and they even believe their own shit, suddenly its not their thoughts and opinions anymore but the righteous justice god way, they are unbiased, non-subjective, they just are! To be honest, everyone is like this quite often, me included, but i don't forget myself and i still post a lot of personal shit which is what forums are made for , if they didn't want us to have our own style and posts it would be an article instead a forum thread. |
NekkoArc said: Mars of Destruction made me sad, why is is not the top spot?ExTamplier said: Anything sad is at least an 8.Apparently it can put a shit anime on the 13th spot in top anime. |
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ExTamplier said: It made you sad. You =/= everyone else.NekkoArc said: Mars of Destruction made me sad, why is is not the top spot?Anything sad is at least an 8. |
Your taste in Anime is shit. Because you can't differentiate between what's good and bad. How sad. |
ExTamplier said: I was about to correct you and say that Charlotte is not 13. Whoops!Apparently it can put a shit anime on the 13th spot in top anime. |
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Grisaille said: If it didn't make someone sad for wasting his time, he has problems.ExTamplier said: It made you sad. You =/= everyone else.Mars of Destruction made me sad, why is is not the top spot? |
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Ratohnhaketon said: ftfyExTamplier said: I was about to correct you and say that Angel Beats is not 13. Whoops!Apparently it can put a shit anime on the 13th spot in top anime. |
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| Melodramatic bullshit faggotery |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I don't feel sad for the character that died. I just feel pusses at the author for choosing the easy way and ruining the experience. |
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| I hate it when death is used for pure dramatic effect. I need the death to have some sort of meaning. It needs either to conclude the dying character's arc, or to have a meaningful effect on another's development. Digimon Tamers got it right. It features a character death that is used to explore depression and grief. In Charlotte, a character dies but it has no bearings on the story. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: I hate it when death is used for pure dramatic effect. I need the death to have some sort of meaning. It needs either to conclude the dying character's arc, or to have a meaningful effect on another's development. Digimon Tamers got it right. It features a character death that is used to explore depression and grief. In Charlotte, a character dies but it has no bearings on the story. No need for meaning, most times I get emotional if someone dies of a sickness, like cancer. That really hits like a truck for me. You can put yourself in that position or compare it to real life. Or if the build-up is done extremely well--> feels, if the character dies then. They just need to get the scene right, you know. Idd on Charlotte, the death scene could be better and prob was that we didn't see the character a lot trough the series. |
Blarey said: absentminded said: only if : >excecuted right >actually give a sense >proper use of death flag >actually needed >nice building This right here^ Code Geass THE OPPOSITE OF Really? Apart from 's hilarious facial expressions, I thought it was handled pretty well. |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| It can be well done and it can be done terribly. But yeah, a shitty death scene that is supposed to feel very dramatic in a forced way is appalling to watch . |
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| Most of them are done horribly or feel tacked on just to drive the story... but sometimes you get something like Ga Rei Zero.... i got some feels from that anime. |
| I hate the rape in Heaven's Feel. It was a cheap method to make Sakura more pitiable. As if she didn't suffer enough in Fate/Zero. |
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| I am rather repulsed criticism of the execution of death scenes. I have no particular love for character's dying and have never felt very much from those sorts of scenes, but I would argue that is even worse and contrived when we speak of death in storytelling as some sort of scheme that plays some sort of higher structural purpose in a narrative. |
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| I agree with TS. I think the death in Code Geass discussed earlier in the thread is a good example of this. Also Akame ga Killl still tries to make some deaths in the series seem emotional. Which I think is retarded and you'll understand once you see the series. Not sure if I should see it as comedy or just as bad but I didn't think it was funny actually so I just saw it as bad. |
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| As long as it's not done in the same fashion that was witnessed in Chaos Dragon, then we're good to go. |
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Duatizer said: TheBrainintheJar said: I hate it when death is used for pure dramatic effect. I need the death to have some sort of meaning. It needs either to conclude the dying character's arc, or to have a meaningful effect on another's development. Digimon Tamers got it right. It features a character death that is used to explore depression and grief. In Charlotte, a character dies but it has no bearings on the story. No need for meaning, most times I get emotional if someone dies of a sickness, like cancer. That really hits like a truck for me. You can put yourself in that position or compare it to real life. Or if the build-up is done extremely well--> feels, if the character dies then. They just need to get the scene right, you know. Idd on Charlotte, the death scene could be better and prob was that we didn't see the character a lot trough the series. But why give the character cancer, unless it's important to the story? |
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| Not sad: A side character you met two episodes ago gets killed off Sad: A main character that was subtly foreshadowed to die but tries to live life to the fullest, dies in the end while a letter from her is being read by MC ;_; I'm not over that show, btw. |
| If they are done right, they could be real tear jerker moments (many moments from FMA), if they are done bad, is only a cheap trick to make people feel bad (Akame ga Kill). |
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| Killing a character just for the sake of killing a character is dumb as hell. |
| Archie's death hit me too hard |
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| overused in shows that want to be "deep". If you want a deep anime, just think up of a good story and good fucking characters first. Then you can insert a death or two when it actually follows the trqin of thought of your story. |
| Most don't make me care about the character first, so I don't have a high opinion of it due to it being done poorly most of the time from what I've seen. There was one in Naruto that I think was really done right though. It was |
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15poundfish said: TheBrainintheJar said: The reason often is for character development or for exploring themes relating to that tragedy. I think it depends on the person on what they view it as forced or great character development.But why give the character cancer, unless it's important to the story? These are good reasons. If they only got cancer for dramatic effect, that's pretty exploitative. |
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| Well it has to be done right, but I usually get pretty sad when people die |
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absentminded said: only if : >executed right >actually give a sense >proper use of death flag >actually needed >nice building Yes. Like in Ever 17, Heaven's Feel, Steins;Gate(vn), and Danganronpa 2. True zetsubou. |
| Depends on how much you could attach yourself to that character. If it's a character introduced and then dies in the same or next episode it's hard to really have some form of 'feels'. |
| I strongly disagree with the people who unconditionally hate so-called unnecessary deaths. Most importantly, "unnecessary" deaths remind the viewer that their characters aren't as safe as they think, which is important for the edge-of-the-seat aspect that makes any good thriller. Some people complained about the deaths in the Female Titan arc because they barely got to know the characters that got killed, but they served a greater purpose of keeping the thrill in the thriller. I see no proof that their objective was to elicit some sort of strong emotional response. That was one of many events that kept me on the edge of my seat, making Attack on Titan a masterpiece thriller for me. |
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| If you really want meaningless 'deaths' read these shiity books The Hunger Game Trilogy Divergent Trilogy The Maze Runner Series every death in above books did not made me sad infact I was pissed off by them. A Anime is yet to do that for me |
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FloatingIdiot said: Some people complained about the deaths in the Female Titan arc because they barely got to know the characters that got killed, but they served a greater purpose of keeping the thrill in the thriller. I see no proof that their objective was to elicit some sort of strong emotional response. That was one of many events that kept me on the edge of my seat, making Attack on Titan a masterpiece thriller for me. That people have a name. That name is fodder. |
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Illyricus said: FloatingIdiot said: Some people complained about the deaths in the Female Titan arc because they barely got to know the characters that got killed, but they served a greater purpose of keeping the thrill in the thriller. I see no proof that their objective was to elicit some sort of strong emotional response. That was one of many events that kept me on the edge of my seat, making Attack on Titan a masterpiece thriller for me. That people have a name. That name is fodder. They were a step above fodder though, at least as I usually see it used. Fodder just shows how strong the enemy is and doesn't make you worry about the main characters. The way the first season of Attack on Titan dismantles the plot armor of the main characters is unparalleled in anime that I've seen. |
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FloatingIdiot said: Illyricus said: That people have a name. That name is fodder. They were a step above fodder though, at least as I usually see it used. Fodder just shows how strong the enemy is and doesn't make you worry about the main characters. The way the first season of Attack on Titan dismantles the plot armor of the main characters is unparalleled in anime that I've seen. I understand your point. But thing here is that the people that were killed by the Female Titan weren't actually main characters (if you referred to Levi's Squad). They were fodder because they were only cool side characters that were created to demonstrate that being badass isn't the only requirement to survive in the Survey Corps. It demonstrate again the cruel world where the characters lives. Also, their death wasn't even "feely", they didn't die like Akame ga Kill characters when a character is ripped in two by a dog and remembers its life before being eaten with cheesy flashbacks and sad music in the background, they were killed in a quick fashion and without many time to mourn its deaths. |
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Comic_Sans said: Melodramatic bullshit faggotery TheBrainintheJar said: I hate it when death is used for pure dramatic effect. semianonymous said: ...feel tacked on just to drive the story... Illyricus said: ...is only a cheap trick to make people feel bad. HapHazrD said: overused in shows that want to be "deep". If you want a deep anime, just think up of a good story and good fucking characters first. Then you can insert a death or two when it actually follows the train of thought of your story. Dropped Cross Game after episode 1. It's supposed to be a good title but this poisoned the rest of the anime for me. Truly the height of shameless melodramatic tear-trolling. |
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absentminded said: only if : >excecuted right >actually give a sense >proper use of death flag >actually needed >nice building Definitely this ^^^ |
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