Akame ga KILL!
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MilviBritannia said: Shangetsu said: Him being able to matter in the story at this point with only a few days of training is pretty much bullshit to begin with. Out of all the way the author could have taken, this was one of the best choice. Not saying it's good, it's just the less worse choice. Or you know...they could have just not stroked Akame's ego in their fight in the previous chapter which made Wave look like a joke....that would have also helped. There would have been no need for a power-up. I mean he didnt have to win, he just had to give some form of resistance. Any power-up wave gets at this point is a bit tacky. I liked Grand Chariot as it was and adding to it will make it a bit too much. They should have made the fight a lot more equal imo....lets face it Akame de-manned and humiliated him. In terms of Mine, she will probably return for the final battle. At least I hope she will be back. I miss her so much :((( Her and Tatsumi deserve to be happy together. Wave is a fisherman, he's not a warrior even though he got a teigu. It's perfectly normal for him to be toyed around by someone who had to learn assassination technique and combat ever since she was young. Wave always was a joke, he always was the kind of character with no real skills that simply relied on pure raw stats to get the job done (and he never really got any job done iirc) |
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| I don't really like the idea of Wave usin 2 teigus but as long as he'll fight Tatsumi I'll be happy. |
| I'm surprised that so many of you saw Akame as being "angry". Imo she is suffering/in pain for having to kill her ex-comrades. To the extent that she has to force her "switch" with almost every kill. I felt bad for her (despite the fact that it was Kurome's pals who were getting chopped to pieces lol). The mangaka is prepping Akame for killing her sister but now with wave getting a second Teigu I wonder if he will interrupt the fight. I'm starting to think that either both Kurome & Wave get away & have their happy ending, or they both die. |
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| Akame is cool in this chapter.. killing all her former comrades. Kurome getting more despair as her friends are dying. Foreshadowing of Wave wielding two teigus and probably do a final battle with Dragon Tatsumi lol. |
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Shangetsu said: MilviBritannia said: Or you know...they could have just not stroked Akame's ego in their fight in the previous chapter which made Wave look like a joke....that would have also helped. There would have been no need for a power-up. I mean he didnt have to win, he just had to give some form of resistance. Any power-up wave gets at this point is a bit tacky. I liked Grand Chariot as it was and adding to it will make it a bit too much. They should have made the fight a lot more equal imo....lets face it Akame de-manned and humiliated him. In terms of Mine, she will probably return for the final battle. At least I hope she will be back. I miss her so much :((( Her and Tatsumi deserve to be happy together. Wave is a fisherman, he's not a warrior even though he got a teigu. It's perfectly normal for him to be toyed around by someone who had to learn assassination technique and combat ever since she was young. Wave always was a joke, he always was the kind of character with no real skills that simply relied on pure raw stats to get the job done (and he never really got any job done iirc) Wave managed to fight 3 of NR at once in the earlier chapters where they all praised his strength. He was also trained by an Imperial of some fairly decent station which led him to join the Navy and later get a spot in Esdeath's squad. He beat Syura in hand to hand combat, and Syura had trained hand to hand all over the world. Even Esdeath said his condition/strength was near perfect. I really doubt that Esdeath would have him on her squad if he wasn't good. So I have to disagree with you. The fight between Akame and Wave should have been more even. The only thing that particular chapter achieved was making Akame look overpowered (which is always dull in any Anime) and will now lead to Wave using two Teigus which is blah. I get that Akame is one of the mains and needs to be strong etc, but that chapter was a bit too orientated on making her look powerful. We all already knew she was. |
hoopla123 said: Please please please god dammit don't kill wave. please please please make him turn into a rebel or atleast the guy who settles between both sides please please and if mine dies in the end i'm going down with her due to dehydration from my tears. also, akame is hot |
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manbot95 said: Tbh in terms of raw power Wave is far above Akame but like Esdeath said he has a weak mind and Akame used that against Wave as Wave was attacking blindly instead of using Stradgey and Akame straight up said if Wave even got one hit on her it would be fatal Well he did land a clean shot when they were trying to infiltrate the capital and that didn't seem to do much other than phase Akame for a second. Yes she played with his head however, that was after she already had an upper hand. |
MilviBritannia said: Wave managed to fight 3 of NR at once in the earlier chapters where they all praised his strength. He was also trained by an Imperial of some fairly decent station which led him to join the Navy and later get a spot in Esdeath's squad. He beat Syura in hand to hand combat, and Syura had trained hand to hand all over the world. Even Esdeath said his condition/strength was near perfect. I really doubt that Esdeath would have him on her squad if he wasn't good. So I have to disagree with you. The fight between Akame and Wave should have been more even. The only thing that particular chapter achieved was making Akame look overpowered (which is always dull in any Anime) and will now lead to Wave using two Teigus which is blah. I get that Akame is one of the mains and needs to be strong etc, but that chapter was a bit too orientated on making her look powerful. We all already knew she was. The thing is, we've never seen a serious fight with Akame before Wave's, like an opponent who can stand against her toe to toe(not including Esdeath and Budou because they're clearly above her)every single opponent of her dies in the next panel as soon as she get serious, so it's very hard to see how strong Akame actually is. Wave is another one who barely had any chance to show his true potential, he always get toss out in the start of a battle and the only thing he achieved was beating Syura, now as much as Syura was praised to have trained in the entire world, his character was so blant it wasn't even funny, aside from being cocky what else we've got from him, absolutely nothing, it's like the author gave up on and just decided to kill him, so I'm not even sure if the guy was actually strong probably a little bit stronger than Leone and that's it. I understand what you're saying, but because we're talking about Akame here it's really hard to see if it was actually bullshit or not, hell she might even be the closest one to Esdeath since the author is always mentioning how strong/dangerous Akame is. Also, because we don't know anything about Wave's past aside from what you already said and got a lot of Akame's on Zero manga it really is hard to see if Wave is even close to her. It looks like Takahiro will finally focus on Wave from now on so I guess we just gotta wait for the best. I think Wave's power-up is going to be something similar to Tatsumi's, since Incursio is Grand Chariot's prototype it would only make sense for it's buff to be similar and even better. |
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-ZET- said: The thing is, we've never seen a serious fight with Akame before Wave's, like an opponent who can stand against her toe to toe(not including Esdeath and Budou because they're clearly above her)every single opponent of her dies in the next panel as soon as she get serious, so it's very hard to see how strong Akame actually is. Wave is another one who barely had any chance to show his true potential, he always get toss out in the start of a battle and the only thing he achieved was beating Syura, now as much as Syura was praised to have trained in the entire world, his character was so blant it wasn't even funny, aside from being cocky what else we've got from him, absolutely nothing, it's like the author gave up on and just decided to kill him, so I'm not even sure if the guy was actually strong probably a little bit stronger than Leone and that's it. I understand what you're saying, but because we're talking about Akame here it's really hard to see if it was actually bullshit or not, hell she might even be the closest one to Esdeath since the author is always mentioning how strong/dangerous Akame is. Also, because we don't know anything about Wave's past aside from what you already said and got a lot of Akame's on Zero manga it really is hard to see if Wave is even close to her. It looks like Takahiro will finally focus on Wave from now on so I guess we just gotta wait for the best. I think Wave's power-up is going to be something similar to Tatsumi's, since Incursio is Grand Chariot's prototype it would only make sense for it's buff to be similar and even better. Yeah you're right Wave probably hasn't received the attention he deserves in the Manga imo and yes we don't know the extent of his training or strength but we do get an occasional sliver here and there. Like I said I doubt Esdeath would praise him if he wasn't up to snuff. The 3 NR members referred to him as a force of nature I think...or something in that ball park. I don't actually think that he is stronger than Akame, as you pointed out probably only 2 or 3 characters are (I'd argue the evolved incursio Tatsumi trumps her along with Esdeath and Budou). I just really dislike the idea of 2 teigu on Wave and would have preferred the author made that fight closer so as to avoid a need for that kind of power up. More training, an evolution of Grand Chariot, fine but another teigu...? I just don't see it. Still this is not the end of the world. Who knows maybe they come up with something really cool...but I wont hold my breath. Oh and before anyone comes to call me a Wave fanboy, you re probably right, however I prefer Tatsumi and Mine to him...and he's tied with Bulat for 3rd place x) |
-ZET- said: MilviBritannia said: Wave managed to fight 3 of NR at once in the earlier chapters where they all praised his strength. He was also trained by an Imperial of some fairly decent station which led him to join the Navy and later get a spot in Esdeath's squad. He beat Syura in hand to hand combat, and Syura had trained hand to hand all over the world. Even Esdeath said his condition/strength was near perfect. I really doubt that Esdeath would have him on her squad if he wasn't good. So I have to disagree with you. The fight between Akame and Wave should have been more even. The only thing that particular chapter achieved was making Akame look overpowered (which is always dull in any Anime) and will now lead to Wave using two Teigus which is blah. I get that Akame is one of the mains and needs to be strong etc, but that chapter was a bit too orientated on making her look powerful. We all already knew she was. The thing is, we've never seen a serious fight with Akame before Wave's, like an opponent who can stand against her toe to toe(not including Esdeath and Budou because they're clearly above her)every single opponent of her dies in the next panel as soon as she get serious, so it's very hard to see how strong Akame actually is. Wave is another one who barely had any chance to show his true potential, he always get toss out in the start of a battle and the only thing he achieved was beating Syura, now as much as Syura was praised to have trained in the entire world, his character was so blant it wasn't even funny, aside from being cocky what else we've got from him, absolutely nothing, it's like the author gave up on and just decided to kill him, so I'm not even sure if the guy was actually strong probably a little bit stronger than Leone and that's it. I understand what you're saying, but because we're talking about Akame here it's really hard to see if it was actually bullshit or not, hell she might even be the closest one to Esdeath since the author is always mentioning how strong/dangerous Akame is. Also, because we don't know anything about Wave's past aside from what you already said and got a lot of Akame's on Zero manga it really is hard to see if Wave is even close to her. It looks like Takahiro will finally focus on Wave from now on so I guess we just gotta wait for the best. I think Wave's power-up is going to be something similar to Tatsumi's, since Incursio is Grand Chariot's prototype it would only make sense for it's buff to be similar and even better. Akame is mentioning as dangerous only thanks to Murasame (again in this scan), not her strenght. This teigu and the fact she's not dumb by thinking during the fights = decent opponent. The one who is closest to Esdeath level is clearly Tatsumi since he got his power up. It's shown and proved during Coliseum arc, and even during the beginning of this final arc against Cosmina, where Akame was incapable to fight her because Murasame was ineffective, and left Tatsumi take care of Cosmina because he was the only one to be able to kill her in NR. Akame is not overpowered ( I believe there won't be an incoherent power-up like in anime), She just fights weak, low-minded (Wave) or stupid and arrogant opponents who don't care of Murasame. |
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| I felt really bad for Akame Kurome and Wave here.. Also is it just me or is it just painful to see Ran being used by Kurome? I always get reminded of his death.. Sigh the art was awesome, Akame was beast, and the set-up was good. BTW reading this chapter with this on is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w8GK4BugOw |
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manbot95 said: Here is a direct manga qutoe "on the flip side, Akame...Knew that a single blow taken would end in a disastrous outcome." Yeah thats great and all but it already happened, and you can check (since I am not sure I can put links here) Chapter 41 page 18 where he lands a clean shot on her. She goes flying and all but is back a few slides later with minor bruises. So the outcome wasn't that disastrous I guess. toncue12 said: Akame is mentioning as dangerous only thanks to Murasame (again in this scan), not her strenght. This teigu and the fact she's not dumb by thinking during the fights = decent opponent. The one who is closest to Esdeath level is clearly Tatsumi since he got his power up. It's shown and proved during Coliseum arc, and even during the beginning of this final arc against Cosmina, where Akame was incapable to fight her because Murasame was ineffective, and left Tatsumi take care of Cosmina because he was the only one to be able to kill her in NR. Akame is not overpowered ( I believe there won't be an incoherent power-up like in anime), She just fights weak, low-minded (Wave) or stupid and arrogant opponents who don't care of Murasame. You mean the same weak Wave who fought Akame, Mine and Lubbock 1v3? :P I'll grant you he's easily distracted on an emotional level but Wave is far from weak. |
MilviBritanniaSep 30, 2015 5:12 AM
MilviBritannia said: manbot95 said: Here is a direct manga qutoe "on the flip side, Akame...Knew that a single blow taken would end in a disastrous outcome." Yeah thats great and all but it already happened, and you can check (since I am not sure I can put links here) Chapter 41 page 18 where he lands a clean shot on her. She goes flying and all but is back a few slides later with minor bruises. So the outcome wasn't that disastrous I guess. toncue12 said: Akame is mentioning as dangerous only thanks to Murasame (again in this scan), not her strenght. This teigu and the fact she's not dumb by thinking during the fights = decent opponent. The one who is closest to Esdeath level is clearly Tatsumi since he got his power up. It's shown and proved during Coliseum arc, and even during the beginning of this final arc against Cosmina, where Akame was incapable to fight her because Murasame was ineffective, and left Tatsumi take care of Cosmina because he was the only one to be able to kill her in NR. Akame is not overpowered ( I believe there won't be an incoherent power-up like in anime), She just fights weak, low-minded (Wave) or stupid and arrogant opponents who don't care of Murasame. You mean the same weak Wave who fought Akame, Mine and Lubbock 1v3? :P I'll grant you he's easily distracted on an emotional level but Wave is far from weak. I don't classify him in "weak", but in "low-minded". Sure, Wave is strong. |
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toncue12 said: Akame is mentioning as dangerous only thanks to Murasame (again in this scan), not her strenght. This teigu and the fact she's not dumb by thinking during the fights = decent opponent. The one who is closest to Esdeath level is clearly Tatsumi since he got his power up. It's shown and proved during Coliseum arc, and even during the beginning of this final arc against Cosmina, where Akame was incapable to fight her because Murasame was ineffective, and left Tatsumi take care of Cosmina because he was the only one to be able to kill her in NR. Akame is not overpowered ( I believe there won't be an incoherent power-up like in anime), She just fights weak, low-minded (Wave) or stupid and arrogant opponents who don't care of Murasame. I don't think Akame is only dangerous because of Murasame, we all saw how easily Esdeath handled that by only putting a piece of ice in front of the blade, sure Tatsumi is stronger than Akame right now and he'll probably be the one to face Esdeath still if it's that easy for Esdeath to handle Akame who previously was the biggest threat in NR then we're all doomed, since I don't think Tatsumi can solo Esdeath, sure he landed a blow in her but that was because she wasn't takng him serious, next time it won't happen that easily. IMO, thinking that Murasame is all that Akame has is the same way that everyone thought Wave was going to easily handle Akame in their fight because Grand Chariot > Murasame, everyone just puts Teigus in mind when talking to battles but in reality there's a lot more things to consider here, not to mention the fact that we still haven't seen Akame's trump card. Also I just remembered, the author already made 2 events to clearly show that Akame DOESN'T RELY on Murasame, the battle against Dorothea's puppets and now the battle against Wave, she uses more than just the teigu. I'm not sure about it but in almost ALL of Akame's fight the author always show her nalyzes during the fights and I don't think he does that to other characters except maybe Esdeath and Tatsumi, it does look like he gives more attention to Akame which is why I can't help but think there's something special about her. And she wasn't incapable to fight Cosmina because of Murasame being unaffected but Izou just a appeared in front of her at the time and later the Dorotheas puppets, if she was left to fight Cosmina it would be similar to what she did to Wave I guess. |
Thrall said: WhiteWolfEyes21 said: This is why I don't see how anybody can be excited for Akame vs Kurome. If they fight one on one, uninterrupted, this fight is not to be competitive. I hope you didn't underestimate kurome here. I have to agree with him though. Not that I want Akame vs Kurome to be a let down but the build up regarding Akame's strength and abilities makes people believe that she will roflstomp Kurome. I mean Kurome and the assassins got held off by a couple of Night Raid members whilst Akame solo'd the other part of the assassin unit without breaking a sweat. I like Akame, I always have but I still don't like the stroking of her ego and her current state where she comes across as much stronger than the opposition (except Esdeath). Stuff like this is the reason I dropped Fairy Tail....watching Natsu wreck enemies 5 times his power with one punch was just too much. |
Thrall said: MilviBritannia said: I have to agree with him though. Not that I want Akame vs Kurome to be a let down but the build up regarding Akame's strength and abilities makes people believe that she will roflstomp Kurome. Seems to me you like to forget the fact she fought equally with the whole night raid. yes, chelsea's attack weakened her drastically, but let's just wait with this "roflstomp" bullshit. First of all why are you mad? I'm just saying what I think. Secondly, if you are referring to when she summoned her puppets, that wasn't really her vs NR. it was her summoning puppets to fight night raid which mainly got wrecked. All she did was take a shot at Leone when she wasn't really looking. I doubt Akame would give her a chance to summon puppets if she were serious anyway. This 1v1 should be nothing but a sword fight which, with the way things stand now, I can't really see Akame losing. But then the author has the ability to surprise so who knows? ^^ |
MilviBritanniaSep 30, 2015 8:20 AM
| Akame was still one of the empire's top assassin before she even got Murasame. If we remove any Teigu power and judge character on combat skill alone I wouldn't be surprised if Akame was at the very top. I still stand on my point that it was normal for Akame to beat the fuck out of Wave |
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Shangetsu said: Akame was still one of the empire's top assassin before she even got Murasame. If we remove any Teigu power and judge character on combat skill alone I wouldn't be surprised if Akame was at the very top. I still stand on my point that it was normal for Akame to beat the fuck out of Wave Without Teigu's maybe but not in the current state of things. If Esdeath could block her attacks with ice, she certainly shouldn't be able to cut through Grand Chariot that easily. That fight should never have been so one sided. |
-ZET- said: toncue12 said: Akame is mentioning as dangerous only thanks to Murasame (again in this scan), not her strenght. This teigu and the fact she's not dumb by thinking during the fights = decent opponent. The one who is closest to Esdeath level is clearly Tatsumi since he got his power up. It's shown and proved during Coliseum arc, and even during the beginning of this final arc against Cosmina, where Akame was incapable to fight her because Murasame was ineffective, and left Tatsumi take care of Cosmina because he was the only one to be able to kill her in NR. Akame is not overpowered ( I believe there won't be an incoherent power-up like in anime), She just fights weak, low-minded (Wave) or stupid and arrogant opponents who don't care of Murasame. I don't think Akame is only dangerous because of Murasame, we all saw how easily Esdeath handled that by only putting a piece of ice in front of the blade, sure Tatsumi is stronger than Akame right now and he'll probably be the one to face Esdeath still if it's that easy for Esdeath to handle Akame who previously was the biggest threat in NR then we're all doomed, since I don't think Tatsumi can solo Esdeath, sure he landed a blow in her but that was because she wasn't takng him serious, next time it won't happen that easily. IMO, thinking that Murasame is all that Akame has is the same way that everyone thought Wave was going to easily handle Akame in their fight because Grand Chariot > Murasame, everyone just puts Teigus in mind when talking to battles but in reality there's a lot more things to consider here, not to mention the fact that we still haven't seen Akame's trump card. Also I just remembered, the author already made 2 events to clearly show that Akame DOESN'T RELY on Murasame, the battle against Dorothea's puppets and now the battle against Wave, she uses more than just the teigu. I'm not sure about it but in almost ALL of Akame's fight the author always show her nalyzes during the fights and I don't think he does that to other characters except maybe Esdeath and Tatsumi, it does look like he gives more attention to Akame which is why I can't help but think there's something special about her. And she wasn't incapable to fight Cosmina because of Murasame being unaffected but Izou just a appeared in front of her at the time and later the Dorotheas puppets, if she was left to fight Cosmina it would be similar to what she did to Wave I guess. I've never said there was only her teigu. However, the only other thing to be considered with her is, as I said : "she's not dumb by thinking during the fights". She has no more capacities or tools. It was always like that. I've never said Tatsumi will be solo against Esdeath. He has absolutely no chance to win.... Esdeath is as Madara in AgK. Nobody can overcome her alone. And there isn't a Hashirama here. And if we stay on a "déjà vu" shonen ideology like "the protagonist defeats the antagonist because that's the way it is", it will be disappointing... a poor-writing demonstration in 2015. It's cheesy, isn't it? You quote 2 events which show that Akame doesn't only rely on Murasame, but in the same way, we can quote many more events which prove the opposite since the beggining. |
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toncue12 said: I've never said Tatsumi will be solo against Esdeath. He has absolutely no chance to win.... Esdeath is as Madara in AgK. Nobody can overcome her alone. Potential Naruto spoilers Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details, especially with another series. |
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Exayda said: toncue12 said: I've never said Tatsumi will be solo against Esdeath. He has absolutely no chance to win.... Esdeath is as Madara in AgK. Nobody can overcome her alone. Potential Naruto spoilers Naruto spoilers Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details, especially with another series. |
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cklemar said: When is Mine coming back????!!!! :'( again.... Akame bad ass as ever..... Probably by the ending of the manga. Damn I wish she came back sooner. |
DarK-LaW said: cklemar said: When is Mine coming back????!!!! :'( again.... Akame bad ass as ever..... Probably by the ending of the manga. Damn I wish she came back sooner. Mine is love, Mine is life! hope she will be back soon :) toncue12 said: Exayda said: Potential Naruto spoilers Naruto spoilers Naruto spoilers Back to AkG and the idea of Tatsumi vs Esdeath, frankly we don't actually know the extent of either of their powers. Tatsumi's tyrant transformation is largely unexplored and may be far more powerful than we know if he goes berserk but then Esdeath seems to have a new trump card so we can't say for sure. I don't think he will be the one to kill her though because despite their differences he still seems to have a soft spot for her and finds it difficult to fight her all out, except in the event in which she would be the verge of killing someone dear to him, imo. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details, especially with another series. |
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Jvd2000 said: Everyone seems to forget that Suzuka is also still around. For a non teigu user a good accomplishment. She is still around long after her original team was wiped out, we have seen the entire demise of wild hunt and half of the original Jeagers have also kicked the bucket. And as an added accomplishment surviving the wrath of Esdeath while trying to rape Tatsumi.. For normal canon fodder she is doing well and she might have her own boost after learned some alchemy from Dorothea.. The writer would not have kept her alive without having some larger plans She would be the oponent of Leone in the final arc. At least that is what I believe. |
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DarK-LaW said: cklemar said: When is Mine coming back????!!!! :'( again.... Akame bad ass as ever..... Probably by the ending of the manga. Damn I wish she came back sooner. Hope she comes back never |
| Probably nobody cares about what I was to post, but with the release of volume 3 in USA, it was revealed that Takahiro actually do the backstory of the Three Beasts: It's a bit irrelevant, but it makes me curious why Takahiro gave a backstory to characters whose only function in the story was to kill Bulat. |
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| Akame has gone ballistic mode :P Please don't tell me Kurome's end is near :( |
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Vox_Populi said: This manga has turned into a parody of itself. It's been that way every since Justice got killed by Mine |
| Annnnd Wave gets to wield two Teigus now! Wow! Absolutely fantastic. |
| I'm starting to dislike where this story is going, once Tatsumi dies I'm rating this manga a 1. You give him all this story development just to give him death flags, Akame is literally the only one I see walking away from the final confrontation. |
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kenzhou4 said: I'm starting to dislike where this story is going, once Tatsumi dies I'm rating this manga a 1. You give him all this story development just to give him death flags, Akame is literally the only one I see walking away from the final confrontation. I'll do the opposite. Tatsumi has been such a disappointment. Akame being the sole survivor is the best ending |
Darklight0303 said: kenzhou4 said: I'm starting to dislike where this story is going, once Tatsumi dies I'm rating this manga a 1. You give him all this story development just to give him death flags, Akame is literally the only one I see walking away from the final confrontation. I'll do the opposite. Tatsumi has been such a disappointment. Wave being the sole survivor is the best ending Fixed. |
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