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Rushed is hardly can expressed it as people noted. And looking at the op... I'm afraid that instead of dedicating all remainging episodes to volume 3 they may also cramp some of volume 4 in there >_>
Baka_Ultimate said: Rushed is hardly can expressed it as people noted. And looking at the op... I'm afraid that instead of dedicating all remainging episodes to volume 3 they may also cramp some of volume 4 in there >_>
Smudy said: So what exactly were Shalltear, Gobas and the maid doing here? I must have missed the explanation, i was at least confused.
Otherwise, seems like Shalltear fell in the hands of mind control :/
Sebas, but anyway,
sebas and epsilon are on an information gathering mission, while shaltear is on a mission to gain martial arts and magic casters that have skills not originating from yggdrasil, they did explain this, but it was in passing so i can't blame you for missing it.
And yeah, mind control, well kind of, probably more closer to brainwashing.
Smudy said: So what exactly were Shalltear, Gobas and the maid doing here? I must have missed the explanation, i was at least confused.
You must have missed reading the novel then. Beacuase they cut it off completely as much as a lot of other stuff in this episode. It have whole 2 damn chapters cramped in it.
Smudy said: So what exactly were Shalltear, Gobas and the maid doing here? I must have missed the explanation, i was at least confused.
Otherwise, seems like Shalltear fell in the hands of mind control :/
They did kinda explain it I think but basically it was this
"Before heading to Re-Lantier, Ainz gave Sebastian the order to 'capture humans who know martial arts or magic, but do so for criminals that won't pose a problem even if they disappear.' So as part of the plan, Sebastian and Solution played the role of a rich wilful daughter and the butler who had to clean up her mess, waiting patiently for a fish like Zach to bite.
Shalltear's task was to use this fish to haul in the school of fish following behind.
"That is impossible, I wouldn't put in so much effort. Ainz-sama said it would be fine to turn them into slaves after sucking them dry, but we absolutely have to catch them. But, investigating one by one would take a lot of time, so just suck them all dry.”[/quote]and That Zack guy was hired to transport them,however sebas and the guys already knew that he was part of the mercenaries who trap nobles like that by offering their services, then rob and kill them on the way to their destination.However the ones who got tricked, as we saw were actually the merc's.
Baka_Ultimate said: Rushed is hardly can expressed it as people noted. And looking at the op... I'm afraid that instead of dedicating all remainging episodes to volume 3 they may also cramp some of volume 4 in there >_>
Smudy said: So what exactly were Shalltear, Gobas and the maid doing here? I must have missed the explanation, i was at least confused.
Otherwise, seems like Shalltear fell in the hands of mind control :/
In Episode 5 Shalltear left with Sebas to go on a mission.
While Sebas and Solution (the maid) are basically roleplaying a daughter of a rich noble and her butler to establish ties within the kingdom to merchants and stuff in order to gain intel, Shalltear was ordered to capture humans that can go missing (outcast/criminals/mercenarys) with special talents and martial arts.
They basically trick a group of mercenarys which offers carriage trips in order to rob and kidnap noble.
Well and you saw what actually happens if shalltear is ordered to capture someone....
Seems there was some rushing going by the comments here, which is kinda disappointing given how well they've paced everything prior to this. Was anything signficant skipped though?
The animation was pretty poor as well. Shalltear's other form (whatever the hell THAT was) and her fight with Brain in particular were very poor. Still a pretty good episode though, especially with how interesting things are becoming. I'm hoping Ains has to fight Shalltear so we can see him fight someone who is close to, or even on, his level of power.
Also, that scene of the guy getting killed by boobs is one of the most disturbing things I have seen in a while, though that whole sequence was extremely violent (and, of course, censored).
MC's guildmates were pretty messed up to come up with a monster like that. Other players could be traumatized by something like that in a VR environment. Episodes are over way too fast. Once again, it's a huge shame they didn't make into OVAs with longer episodes and more time to work on it.
vaikepois said: well.. Shalltear disappointed me in this episode.. an OP vampire transformed form is some sort of savage beast.. that is braindead weakling...
vaikepois said: well.. Shalltear disappointed me in this episode.. an OP vampire transformed form is some sort of savage beast.. that is braindead weakling...
le sad...
That was just frenzy too bad they didn't explain it. She's very strong, especially vs Ainz who she directly counters, also she barely used any abilities this ep and with her divine class equipment she's a beast.
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The previous Episodes were good so far and nothing of too much importance was left out or changed, but Jesus, WTF was Ep. 10!?
Sebas was supposed to pay for evereryone after Solutions behaviour to show how rich they are but thats just minor.
After their carriage got attacked the episode was just a mess. They don't explain what Shalltear is doing. I remember one of the Vampirebrides was supposed to be caught in a beartrap and some other things. In contrast to what was supposed to happen, here the bride was just thrown against a wall. Brain is just portrayed wierdly. His past and current motives are nonexistant, the fight was a joke, him suddenly tearing up was bizarre, too. Then there is Shalltears new Form which looks idiotic. Her mouth was supposed to open up to her ears with teeth protruding partially outwards. There is even an illustration of her looks! The whole process of her loosing control was displayed badly. Her last fight was completely different in the novel and she was NOT supposed to use her lance at that point.
I had a feeling they would rush the end because Cocytus was shown with the Lizardmen as his opponents but dear god wtf was that episode today?
I hope they rushed this Episode because Brain won't be important until later and to have the last 3 Episodes at a decent quality.
If you think that they are going to get to Cocytus and the lizardmen, you're completely adorable. If you don't know what happens in the light novel and you feel like talking just for the sake of it, don't bother. From now on 3 episodes is perfect for the rest of the volume.
Annuvin said: Almost the whole 3rd volume in 1 episode. I guess they will somehow manage to fit volume 4 in the last 2 episodes too.
Oh well, I knew this wouldn't end well.
I honestly doubt that lol.That was kinda like an advertisment, same sort of thing was shown in the madan no ou's OP about future volumes which they didn't adapt.(that anime was adapted terribly if I may add).
Annuvin said: Almost the whole 3rd volume in 1 episode. I guess they will somehow manage to fit volume 4 in the last 2 episodes too.
Oh well, I knew this wouldn't end well.
What the hell are you talking about? This wasn't almost the whole volume it was two chapters
danieltortoisee said: Seems there was some rushing going by the comments here, which is kinda disappointing given how well they've paced everything prior to this. Was anything signficant skipped though?
I can't really remember that they skipped anything too big. A thing to mention though is that all the unique looking characters have a long fully fetched out backstory (like the carriage rider with the red suit or brain) that ofcourse wasn't possible to adapt.
I'm not really happy about how the guardians and their relationships are shown.
A really small scene but imo important dialogue (that probably got cut in favor of the eroge-voice actor talk) is in the carriage where sebas states his concerns that shalltear might not be suited for capturing people because of her bloodlust.
Since ainz gave that job to shalltear she warns him that she would kill him if he would ever seriously challenge a decision of a supreme being.
Later when shalltear has her fun with the mercenarys sebas leaves the scene since he kinda despises slaughterfests.
Same with episode 8 on the cementary where in the LN ainz actually orders the summoned undeads to hunt and kill any adventurer that approaches the cementary to snatch fame.
Or when Shalltear finds out there is an escape tunnel (she actually enslaved one of the mercenarys and questioned him and thought there wasn't one- not to important though) she is already super frightened and furious which lead to her fucking up with the adventurer group. And at the point where she unleashes the hounds she is not just "Oh i'll get scolded" while smiling but fucking desperate.
Many of these little things just say so much more about the actual characters than some of the longer dialogue that madhouse decides to take wordly.
danieltortoisee said: Also, that scene of the guy getting killed by boobs is one of the most disturbing things I have seen in a while, though that whole sequence was extremely violent (and, of course, censored).
Solution (best meido) is a slime and has afterwards a little chit-chat about her preferences when it comes to dissolving people alive. (Zach the carriage dude is supposed to still make it for 2 full days)
Not exactly happy about her expression. She is actually described as a small child looking forward to her birthday present when it comes to humans.
Annuvin said: Do you people seriously believe that? If they stick to this pace they can get the whole Pandora Actor scene to 5 minutes and dedicate the rest of the episode to the fight.
Obviously they won't, that was the whole point of getting this part out out of the way.(unless anime original lololol)
Pretty enjoyable episode. The sudden fast pacing of the episode from the usual slow pacing of the previous episode made me feel a bit awkward whilst watching this episode.
Also, it seems like Madhouse took out some points from the novel while making this episode. For example:
-sebas met a Noble and had a brief conversation with him.
-the conversation between shalltear and sebas in the carriage was a bit longer in the novel
-In the novel, sebas personality was explained in greater detail.
-Zach's past was explained in the novel
-The 'meeting' between Zach and Solution during the massacre was longer in the novel
-There was a short conversation between shalltear and Solution about their hobby after they massacre zach's group
-A certain creature was created after the massacre to serve Shalltear, albeit a short one
-The duel between brain, shalltear and her vampire brides was a bit longer in the novel.
-The short hair women(who met ainz and got the red potion from him) actually survived. Shalltear put her among the pleasure women in the mercenary camp.
Zetara said: Pretty enjoyable episode. The sudden fast pacing of the episode from the usual slow pacing of the previous episode made me feel a bit awkward whilst watching this episode.
Also, it seems like Madhouse took out some points from the novel while making this episode. For example:
-sebas met a Noble and had a brief conversation with him.
-the conversation between shalltear and sebas in the carriage was a bit longer in the novel
-In the novel, sebas personality was explained in greater detail.
-Zach's past was explained in the novel
-The 'meeting' between Zach and Solution during the massacre was longer in the novel
-There was a short conversation between shalltear and Solution about their hobby after they massacre zach's group
-A certain creature was created after the massacre to serve Shalltear, albeit a short one
-The duel between brain, shalltear and her vampire brides was a bit longer in the novel.
-The short hair women(who met ainz and got the red potion from him) actually survived. Shalltear put her among the pleasure women in the mercenary camp.
The red haired woman also survived in this epsisode?
It did feel rushed but by no means was this episode bad, in fact I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the blu ray and all that extra blood and chaos..
And come on, we finally see the BEST GIRL AGAIN and she totally flips out about the Love that was thrown her way and that made the episode that much better..
Whaou, It was so fast-paced I don't get nearly anything what's going one in this episode..
Mind control, by what? By the old priestress light dragon spell?
I think I rather prefer the slow-pacing of the old episodes. :(
Balong said: Whaou, It was so fast-paced I don't get nearly anything what's going one in this episode..
Mind control, by what? By the old priestress light dragon spell?
I think I rather prefer the slow-pacing of the old episodes. :(
This is in case anyone wants to know what happened in the end a little more clearly.
"It looked like a one-piece dress for women with a deep slit down the side and a round collar.
The color was a silvery white, with the image of a five-clawed dragon soaring to the skies stitched in gold thread.
In Ainz’s world, it was something called a Cheongsam.
However, the face of the woman in the dress was wrinkled with age. Her exposed legs reminded one of burdocks or dried potatoes. The clothes did not fit with her appearance. It was to the point that one would want to narrow their eyes; to the point that Shalltear looked away.
But that was to be the last small feeling of incongruity.
Everything could have been changed by the smallest of whims.
If Ainz hadn’t captured Nigan, if Ainz hadn’t countered the Slane Theocracy’s information magic so strongly, if the theocracy hadn’t made the mistake of believing ‘the Dragon King of Calamity has resurrected’, if Shalltear hadn’t been distracted— everything would have changed. However, the fact that so many ifs coincided, in other words, meant that it was inevitable.
The name of the dress was ‘Bewitching Calamity, Kei Seke Koku’.
An item left behind by the God who saved mankind, the subject of their worship. It held a power that even Shalltear did not possess.
—shudder
Even as the highest level Floor Guardian of the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick, Shalltear’s body trembled. It was a warning, almost like a sixth sense.
With her instincts setting off alarm bells, Shalltear moved her eyes and fixed it on the old woman.
This was a human whom she had to kill, no matter what.
Hit with this realization, Shalltear began to move towards her. The man with the spear blocked her way.
“Move!”
Shalltear smacked him in earnest. A normal human’s weak body would have been torn to pieces, but the man was simply blown away and did not die. Not only that, he still retained his fighting spirit.
Shalltear concentrated on the old woman as the focal point and cast her spell.
“「Mass Hold Species」!”
A number of them had their movements constricted. The reason Shalltear tied them down was because she deemed them to be more than enough to make up for her previous failure.
As the thought passed through her mind, Shalltear’s heart became overlapped in white.
The feeling of a portion of her mind falling away. She didn’t know what it was. And when the truth of what was happening dawned on her, an enormous shock passed through her and even the undead Shalltear trembled in fear.
Mind control.
She, an undead with absolute immunity to mind control effects, was having her mind dominated. Shalltear furiously filled her heart, now almost dyed in white, with hatred. As her head swarmed with the countless thoughts of the worst case scenario—
“KUUAAAAAAHHH!!”
—she screamed and resisted, blood pouring down her eyes. This mind control that was trying to dirty her, the Floor Guardian of the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick, she resisted.
But as if ignoring Shalltear’s desperate struggle, her consciousness continued to be dyed white. She did not even have the luxury of using her teleportation magic. Losing her focus for even an instant would immediately render her completely under the spell’s effect.
Shalltear used her class skill and created a ‘Purifying Javelin’.
A huge javelin imbued with divine energy was still capable of dealing significant damage even if the user had an evil alignment. More importantly, throwing it while using additional MP gave it the effect of never missing its mark.
Shalltear, while resisting with all the strength in her body, glared at the old woman who had cast the spell that was dirtying her.
Her eyes did not even reflect the huge, mirror-like shield of the man blocking her path as a threat.
Then— she threw.
The javelin flew from her hand like it had a will of its own.
It was an attack strengthened by every skill that she could scrounge up from her fading consciousness.
Its aim true, the attack that looked like a flash of light penetrated the man blocking its way along with his shield and struck the old woman.
The two humans throwing up blood, the commotion in the group; this was the last vision of the world that Shalltear saw."
Episode was so rushed it was impossible to enjoy. The fights were supposed to be much longer and bloodier. At the pace they're going I won't be surprised if next episode will finish volume 3 and they'll try to cram volume 4 in the last 2 episodes.
It's obvious that they rushed some things but this was by no means a bad episode at all
The brutality was more than real here and I can't even imagine how it was in the novel considering that it's even more brutal lol and I felt a little bad for those humans xD
Shaltear in her true for looks so fucking disgusting lol like wtf.....The blonde maid was hot as fuck though and I actually wish that I was that guy that she absorbed because that is a wonderful way to die xD
I'm guessing that Shaltear is being brainwashed somehow because there is no way in hell that she'd turn on her precious Ainz and let Albedo (her reaction to the love thing was funny lol) win so I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next