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Feb 22, 2008 4:43 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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THE BEST EPISODE OF THIS YEAR AND WHOLE KAIJI.
HE IS _INSANE_. _REALLY!_
 
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Feb 22, 2008 6:37 PM

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LOL I'll say :)

Candidate for MOST FUCKED UP TWIST IN AN ANIME EVER
My favourite episode so far for me, and the most whacked out, craziest episode I have seen in a long, long time - this episode is beyond superlatives
 
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Feb 23, 2008 2:45 PM

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ya this episode had the greatest twist ever making kaiji the greatest show ever D:


I loved that I had no idea at all what kaiji did till it was revealed
 
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Feb 23, 2008 6:07 PM

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"Mimi ga... Mimi ga nai!"

Bodily disfiguration (like main character death) is a rarity in anime, which makes it all the more striking how cool this was. It was obvious, in retrospect, that this entire arc was written towards this end, but nobody saw it coming. I, too, had no idea as to what Kaiji did until he took the towel off. After that ... well, even Tonegawa and the Yakuza were shocked.

Personally, the best part of this scene will come in the later episodes, when Kaiji has to deal with the absence of his left ear (e.g. for the rest of his life). This just became a work of art independent of the psychological tension which made Akagi. My respect for Kaiji as a character just went up a level. I've now seen that he's not only willing to fight for survival, but to make very real sacrifices for the sake of his pride (and that of Ishida and Sahara). Probably the best wounded warrior in anime.
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Feb 23, 2008 8:39 PM

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I've got to be honest, with the cliffhanger episode 19 left me with, I could'nt just wait for Triad to take their time and sub it. And, I think I've done the right thing.

The moment Kaiji got out of the restroom with the towel on his head, simply made me think what had he done with the huge mirror shard, for it to bleed that profusely, I initially thought he had pierced his head and made a huge scratch on the side of his head. My jaw simply dropped when there was no evidence of his ear. The reaction of those around Kaiji was just like what you'd expect from normal people. Kaiji has now officially raised to the level of Akagi.

Also, that let me wishing for subs to fully understand it all. : <

Best episode ever, hands down. And got a slight boost from 9 to 10 in my ranking. God, the world needs more shows like these ones.

Edit: After watching the subs, Tonegawa got royally owned this time around, now for Episode 21 and see what Kaiji is planning to do.
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Feb 24, 2008 4:47 PM

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FUCK YES! YOU ARE THE BEST ANIME EVER!
Holy crap that was epic! This episode went by WAAAAAAYYY too fast. Didn't see the ear cutting comming really. But DAMN was is awesome! Are they gonna top this? I actually think they are!
 
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Feb 24, 2008 5:04 PM

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HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

Beyond my expectations. Fabulous episode.

 
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Feb 24, 2008 5:07 PM

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I had a smile in my face for half the episode. That was when i didn't know that Kaiji didn't have his ear anymore. When it was revealed Kaiji completely tore of his ear, my jaw dropped. Then my smile came back and i was maniacally laughing for the rest of the episode. I'm stunned at the amount of madness and badassness Kaiji just displayed. I can't imagine the pain he went through to take that thing off...
Kaiji is now at the same level as Akagi, if not higher. This episode made me shiver as much as the last episode of Akagi.

Guess i'm not the only one who raised their rating of this show to 10...
Damn, i hope the last few episodes of the show remains that awesome.
 
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Feb 24, 2008 5:46 PM
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OMG!! i did not see that coming.. wow i was just stunned.
 
Feb 24, 2008 6:25 PM

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Did they really not wonder why he was bleeding?


 
Feb 24, 2008 7:10 PM

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Holy crap !!
Sugoi !!
I would whould've thought that kaiji was going to rip off his ear !!
One fo the best episodes so far. Just losing to the episode of the end of the Jan Ken "saga".

Can't w8 to see what is his next strategy!
 
Feb 24, 2008 8:43 PM

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Looks like he's using his blood to mark up the cards for the final round. I can't wait to see how this works out.



 
Feb 24, 2008 9:03 PM

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Shits awesome, though I kinda figured he'd cut off his ear when he picked up the glass shard. Still, how he acted like he lost was priceless.

I need the next episode nao.
 
Feb 24, 2008 9:08 PM

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that was amazing
the episode passed by soooo quickly.... wow

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Feb 24, 2008 9:27 PM

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Wow, this episode was amazing... I thought he just cut himself enough to throw off the sensors, not chopping off his whole ear and making some poor guy hold it (!). Completely insane.

Despite all his boasts and attitude, Tonegawa clearly doesn't understand the symbolism of the Emperor and Slave. Something tells me he will pay dearly as a result...
 
Feb 24, 2008 10:04 PM

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Wow, I swear I had my jaw dropped for a good portion of this episode. Kaiji is now officially insane enough to hold his own against Akagi. As badass as Akagi was, he never chopped off his own ear! I don't know how they could possibly top this episode, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them try.
 
Feb 24, 2008 10:33 PM

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Wow, that was definitely the best episode of Kaiji in a long time. Just when I was starting to be disappointed with the arc, Kaiji throws another crazy twist into the mix.
 
Feb 24, 2008 11:21 PM

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Wow, this episode was off the charts!! Kaiji is such a noble individual in that even when he is cutting his own ear off he is still thinking about his fallen friends. Now it is more apparent then ever why I named Kaiji the best show of last year and also named Kaiji (the character) the best character of last year.

I wonder how pissed off the chairman will get if Tonegawa loses the last round to Kaiji?
 
Feb 25, 2008 1:13 AM

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Many bricks were shat. This was so awesome.
 
Feb 25, 2008 2:19 AM

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Oh wow, Kaiji for Saigar. He's actually ruining Tonegawa's life. Best episode since 13-14.

Oh wait...

Only 6 left ;_;

I DEMAND second and third season.

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Wow, I swear I had my jaw dropped for a good portion of this episode. Kaiji is now officially insane enough to hold his own against Akagi. As badass as Akagi was, he never chopped off his own ear! I don't know how they could possibly top this episode, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them try.

Akagi did throw away his blood just to gamble some more...
 
Feb 25, 2008 2:41 AM
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God damn, that was epic! Kaiji is kickass.

I thought it was kinda weird when they showed that guy sitting alone in the bathroom, but I didn't think too much about it. Then after Tonegawa noticed the meters were acting weird, it struck me "Kaiji couldn't have..." But he could and god it was awesome. I'm loving this show more and more. Now I'm hoping Kaiji will crush Tonegawa completely in the next ep. :D
 
Feb 25, 2008 2:46 AM

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I am proud to say that I knew what happened at the same time as Tonegawa made the realization. Only barely before it was revealed though.

This episode definitely kicked the series up a notch for me. I enjoyed restricted janken. Didn't enjoy the steal beams too much. Needless to say, cutting off your ear is pretty badass.

I can kind of, sort of see where Kaiji is going with the last bet.



Or at least that's how I think it'll go.
 
Feb 25, 2008 4:19 AM

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DAMN. I am speechless. Definitely one of the best anime moments of all time for me.
 
Feb 25, 2008 4:35 AM

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ARGH I WANT 21.
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Feb 25, 2008 8:42 AM

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One of the best episodes so far. I am so excited for 21!!
 
Feb 25, 2008 9:24 AM

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Woah, that was some unexpecting shit.

Kaiji has reached a whole new level of awesome.
 
Feb 25, 2008 9:38 AM
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Like everybody else, I'm quite susprised as well!
DAMN!! KAIJI IS EPIC!!

Cut off you own ear. Oh man.. Can't wait for ep 21.
 
Feb 25, 2008 9:53 AM

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that was pretty amazing
i never expected something like that O.O
 
Feb 25, 2008 11:16 AM

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So epic that I had to watch it twice.

 
Feb 25, 2008 11:31 AM

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8GaugeBrett said:
Looks like he's using his blood to mark up the cards for the final round. I can't wait to see how this works out.


Mmhm, he used Tonegawa's bitch out by the old man as a rouse. I'm wondering if he played a switch-a-roo and both of those are Citizen cards? Kaiji knows that Tonegawa saw the blood drop. Certainly makes for more interesting game play.

Absolutely brilliant episode! Going to be sad when this is all over.
 
Feb 25, 2008 12:21 PM

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The moment kaiji came out, I knew he took off his ear. I just knew it. But it was fun anyways
 
Feb 25, 2008 12:49 PM
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Fucking epic, best episode yet. I'd given the series 10 some time ago, now there's no way I'll ever change it back. Can't wait for the rest of the series, wonder if anything can top this.
 
Feb 25, 2008 4:10 PM

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DAMN. I am speechless. Definitely one of the best anime moments of all time for me.
 
Feb 25, 2008 5:04 PM

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I'm pretty sure the Yakuza have ways of dealing with operatives who loose 11,000+ yen.

Tonegawa's life is over. Even if Kaiji's trick backfires and Tonegawa wins it all back, the Chairman has clearly seen the end of his uses.
 
Feb 25, 2008 6:35 PM

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he cut off his f'ing ear and stabbed it through some Kaiji fanboy's hand...wtf!
 
Feb 26, 2008 1:03 AM
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Woah!

Awesome move there, simply amazing.

When I saw the guy in th bathroom I actually though he'd ripped off his ear and stuck the device on that other guy, assuring him that he would win. And the reason he freaked out before opening was because he made a mistake and doomed the other guy.

But luckily none of that :D

At least I got the Van Gogh part :D
 
Feb 26, 2008 6:54 AM
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Wow I never saw that coming. I never liked Kaiji's constant crying through many of the episodes but damn it, I can't help but to really repect the guy after this episode. Taking his own ear to win that gamble was pretty damn hardcore.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
 
Feb 26, 2008 1:49 PM

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WOOOOOOOOWWWW. Awesome. thats about all I can say for now.
 
Feb 26, 2008 3:49 PM

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Damn i wish i didnt see that coming. It was still very good, but when you know whats gonna happen, its just not the same.
 
Feb 27, 2008 2:25 AM

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39 of 40 people rated episode for 5 of 5

:| it was really freakin amazing
 
Feb 27, 2008 12:19 PM

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Tim "The Toolman" Taylor and Kaiji have much more in common than we could have ever imagined:

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Feb 27, 2008 8:51 PM

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Kaiji has got balls.

I cannot imagine myself cutting off my ear.
 
Feb 28, 2008 3:06 PM
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Ah, too bad this was predictable. From the moment Tonegawa looked at his watch for the first time after Kaiji returned from the bathroom, I knew what he did. I first couldn't believe it but then i was sure. Sucked that I was able to guess this but I still enjoyed the episode.

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Mar 27, 2008 8:37 AM

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This episode was so goooood!
The moment everyone found out Kaiji cut his ear off, I was like "OMFG!" =P
It was one of the biggest twists I've seen in a while.
 
Oct 27, 2008 9:29 AM

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KAIJI IS OFFICIALLY BATSHIT INSANE
 
Feb 8, 2009 4:59 PM

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THAT WAS FUCKING CRAAAAAAAAAAAZY
 
Jun 4, 2009 1:02 AM
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I never would have thought that we would cut off his ear. He has balls.
 
Jul 19, 2009 9:09 AM

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Best anime episode ever
 
Dec 14, 2009 8:40 AM

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Don't tell me he's trying to bait Tonegawa with the blood he spilled on his cards? That would be too obvious.
And this episode was too predictable as well, the moment he returned from the bathroom with the towel covering his ear I knew what he had done... and Tonegawa did the same mistake Kaiji was doing thus far, he flaunted the certainty of his victory to the viewer and explained why it was so... aka a 99% indicator that he was going down. One question I have though is this... when did those cripples get Wolverine's healing factor? And another is when did they become Kaiji's friends?
 
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i think getting shocked then fall of the bridge and die.. is a bigger lost than losing a ear for 9mill...just saying...
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