So, is Windows 7 still the best OS ever? (Working_Designs, we get it. You like Linux more. :P)

Noboru said:
Funny because I've been using W10 since release day and I am yet to see a single ad or malfunctioning GPU driver.

lupadim said:


... And I have been using Windows 10 for over 4 months in the Windows 10 Insider preview.

You probably did not hear of the epic fuck up which was the Windows 10 GeForce Driver 353.54, which not only broke SLI but also multimonitor setups:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/25/windows-10-automatic-update-problems/

And you couldn't roll back to a previous driver - because 353.54 just installed itself over it via Windows Update, and you could not stop it.

They fixed it in short order, but this just proves how important it is to disable the automatic updating.

I myself have Win10 Pro, therefore I can defer updates, but I pity those with the regular version.

rheumat said:

It's the forced aspect that people have issue with.

lupadim said:
Bah, I understand now why the virtual media industry overall (anime, videogame, OS...) started being so casual and tasteless since 2007. They have to please millions of casuals that start saying "OH. MY. GOD. WINDOWS 10 BREAKS YOUR DRIVERS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT RELEASED ONE MALFUNCTIONING DRIVER ONCE! FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY SOMEONE PLEASE KILL BILL GATES AND LET'S ALL SWITCH TO LINUX!"

Noboru said:
Everyone makes Mistakes, that's not the Issue. The Issue is that you are forced to install every Update, regardless of whether you want it or not.

lupadim said:
Very well, I hope you enjoy having a computer that doesn't have the meaningful security updates and thus is vulnerable to hacker attacks. Yes, they did screw up with the driver thing, but it'll never happen again.

Noboru said:
Secondly, why should I do some Registry Changes and PowerShell Commands for something that used to work flawlessly until W8.1?

Thirdly, People are complaining about losing Control over their OS.

lupadim said:
You can choose between fixing a problem in two minutes and using a great OS or switching to a terrible OS and having to bear it for years.

And how is there any loss of control over the OS? You still have absolute control as long as you know how to use the tools they provide you (registry editing, command prompt using, etc).

Noboru said:
Windows 8.1 is already great enough for me, as there won't be anything available within the next few Years that I would need (native) USB 3.1 Support for, which is the only Reason I would consider switching to Windows 10 for.

Alright, then please be so kind and provide a Guide. Tell me, whether you'd still be able to manually choose the Updates you want and hide the Updates you don't want to have. The only Thing I've found so far was a Microsoft Update for hiding Updates, although the Question remains, whether the hidden Updates remain hidden forever or whether you're forced to install them at one Point.

Noboru said:
Sorry, but I'm not just going to download something from somewhere mentioned in a Paste.
At least come up with Guides from credible Sites.

Noboru said:
This also doesn't answer my Question on what your Workaround actually does and whether it is truly the same as having manual Updates with the Option to indefinitely defer Updates.

Noboru said:
edit: btw: I don't need to be spoon-fed

Noboru said:
A Screenshot linked in a Paste is not trustworthy imho. I don't know about you, but for me, at least something which is directly linked and contains the respective Instructions and/or Reg Files and/or Tools separately is much more trustworthy.

Both Statements aren't contradicting, since I'm not asking for a Guide for Dummies, but rather from where you got your Sources or respectively: whether there are credible Postings and/or (Blog) Reports dealing with it.

Final URL after redirects:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fembed_iframe.php%3Fi%3D96CTQ6LB&l=1

worldeditor11 said:
Best in terms of what?

The only reason why 7 stays and considered the best because users are unwilling to change the UI. No, it is not because of performance since 8 and 10 beat 7 by a mile with Linux based OSs even more. 7 is not exactly more stable either comparing to those two. No, don't ever use "but muh privacy" as a counter argument since this dates back to Vista (or XP) and all current popular browsers like Chrome and Firefox are known for data mining from users. Heck, if you are paranoid about other people knowing which porn site you use, just cut off your ISP since they too, know as much as your browser does about your fetishes.

Noboru said:
Really now? A Link redirecting to the "let me google that for you" Service instead of directly explaining that you got it from 4Chan (which seems to be the most-likely Source)?


At least with what I mentioned for Windows 8/8.1, you could find Sources on trust-worthy Sites such as answers.microsoft.com or social.technet.microsoft.com.

laidellent said:
I still use Windows 7

#Windows 7 master race

lupadim said:
Oh yes, Microsoft will totally teach you how to disable features that they want to keep enabled.

Salvatia said:
if only combine win 7 ui with win 8 performance for ultimate window os

Noboru said:
Microsoft maybe not, but at least a Site dedicated to Windows Operating System or at the very least to Computers.

lupadim said:
And the worst part is that you are the only one who is losing on all the improvements that Windows 10 brought to the world.

Noboru said:
Okay, now you've got me interested. Please tell me about the Improvements I would seriously miss. I'm all Ears.

lupadim said:
No you're not, but whatever, this is my last attempt at punching a wall.

lupadim said:
No you're not, but whatever, this is my last attempt at punching a wall.

Windows 10 has superior performance especially when it comes down to games, photo/movie editing and things of the sort. It allows more customization than 7/8, has cohesive design (unlike 8), presents a superior search system, provides superior file management, has DirectX 12 (one of the major improvements), notifications, workspace management (another great feature), task view, Cortana, Microsoft Edge, security improvements, universal apps for Microsoft systems, the new action center, Continuum, HoloLens support, revamped Command Prompt, several little improvements such as being able to pin the recycle bin on the taskbar, improved Windows Explorer, new keyboard shortcuts, file history in file properties, the fact that W10 is the last OS made by Microsoft and will now receive updates regularly, and much more.

Noboru said:
Despite how it sounds, I've been being serious here.

Well, I can easily imagine that Windows 10 could have a slightly better Performance when it comes down to Games, however, improving the Hardware is still better unless you can provide me with convincing Test Results that could really justify the Jump to Windows 10.
Mind you, I'm neither a Gamer, not do I edit Photos/Movies other than very seldom.

What Customization? Does it have Aero for Windows Frames included again, does it have the "Show Desktop" Button visible or are you only referring to the new Startmenu? If that's the Case, I couldn't care less about that, since I'm using Classic Shell to get the compact-sized one from Windows 7 back.

Cortana, Microsoft Edge, Continuum, HoloLens and the Apps have never really interested me. Okay, maybe HoloLens a little, but until it comes out with the Games I would want to use it for, it takes a few Years.
The Virtual Desktops are working fine enough with a Third Party Application, maybe the Task-View could be a little interesting, however, I'm fine enough with holding Alt + switching with Tab or having the Mouse hover over the respective Application in the Taskbar.

I'm more than fine with the current Notification System, I don't really need the Powershell, I couldn't care less about pinning the Recycle Bin on the Taskbar, the Search System is already fine enough if you index your Files and/or use an alternative Program, the Windows 8(.0) Explorer is fine as it is with easy Access to show/hide hidden Files, but still keeping the classic Drives/Folder Arrangement, because there's no Reason to change something that has been already proven as successful.

What is the superior File Management and what are the Security Improvements you're talking about?

Did I forget something? Keyboard Shortcuts are slightly interesting, as I've found the Windowsbutton+X (Menu with Shortcuts) in Windows 8.X and the Windowsbutton + S (global Search in Windows 8.1). File History only acts as an additional, internal Backup. I don't rely too much on it and especially not for something, for which I would need anything but the most up-to-date Version, for which I don't have any Problems to navigate to the respective "FileHistory" Folder.

Windows 10 being the last OS is questionable, considering they had planned it for Windows 8 already, but didn't proceed. It's hard to imagine that in 5-10 Years, People are willing to spend Money on something without the fixed 10 Years Support consisting of 5 Years Mainstream/Feature Support and 5 Years extended Security Support (10 Years Security Support wholly).

Cnon said:
yeah yeah use the cortana to say hi to the nsa.

lupadim said:
Okay I changed my mind, don't use Windows 10. Your incapability to use Google would make you struggle a lot with such non-user-friendly OS.

hitokiri1859 said:
Windows 7 is about the best I wouldnt recomend using windows xp anymore not to mention you'll have trouble getting it to read more then 4gbs of ram so if your gaming and your game requires more well your screwed o.o But I use the ultimate version because i hated all the junk they would install like microsoft plus or w/e that shit was. I don't see any reason to upgrade to windows 10.

Kurt_Irving said:
It's not the best and it's a bit too bloated. Ubuntu is the fastest and most reliable OS that I've used so far. It won't be long til Win 7 gets outdated, but it is a mediocre OS. If you can't use Ubuntu, then you have the mental capacity of a popsicle stick.

NiN10d0h said:

This is the thing I don't really like about Linux users. :/

hitokiri1859 said:
The only disappointing thing is you would have no choice but to upgrade to windows 10 if you want direct x 12 and that's really not a good reason to be forced to upgrade to that in my oppinion. You can't have direct x12 on linux either. It was like nvidia teamed up with microsoft to screw everyone out of options.

Lucumo said:
Nah, Windows 98 and XP (with updates) were definitely better. Windows 7 easily beats Vista and everything afterwards though.