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Aug 10, 2015 7:38 AM
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The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?
Aug 10, 2015 7:45 AM
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"Scientist" is a very broad term, and doesn't reveal much about the people behind those experiments. It's quite likely that it refers to an organisation of researchers that are obsessed with power users. It's an anime, sometimes real-life logic doesn't apply at all.
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Aug 10, 2015 7:45 AM
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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?

If our governments were really experimenting on humans (like they did plenty of times in the past), they would do everything they can in order to keep it a secret. They certainly wouldn't tell you or human rights organizations about it.
Aug 10, 2015 8:19 AM
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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?


no one would complain if no one knows or they could bribe them
Aug 10, 2015 8:40 AM
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kurikinton said:
bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?


no one would complain if no one knows or they could bribe them

Since they go to a school that aims to overlook teens with powers and protect them, it definitely isn't unknown in Charlotte's world that "scientists" are experimenting on humans, though.
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Aug 10, 2015 8:42 AM
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Gravis said:
kurikinton said:


no one would complain if no one knows or they could bribe them

Since they go to a school that aims to overlook teens with powers and protect them, it definitely isn't unknown in Charlotte's world that "scientists" are experimenting on humans, though.

Let's wait until the show finishes before talking about this, many people have already predicted that the school isn't actually safe and there's a conspiracy going on.
Aug 12, 2015 5:57 PM
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I'm a scientist. I can assure you that scientists are like most people, and most of us (the scientific community) see animal experimentation as an unfortunate but necessary circumstance. There are strict regulations regarding animal experimentation so that lab specimens will not experience unnecessary or severe pain, and so that resources could be used efficiently and for good purpose. You need proper documentation to prove that usage of these animals could be beneficial in the long term, and that these animals will be treated ethically. Human experimentation, like animal experimentation, is pretty broad. Hundreds of people sign up to be test subjects annually, and the probability of experiencing long-term harm is generally negligible. When the general populace thinks of human experimentation, they are thinking of lethal human experimentation, which is a criminal offense here in the United States (unsure about other countries), which goes against scientific ethics. If a scientist is performing lethal (or dangerous) human experimentation, he/she does not speak for the scientific community as a whole.
Aug 13, 2015 4:32 AM
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Most animes similar to Charlotte tend to put the 'scientists' as the "villainous' people.
But they do seem evil, as they're experimenting on children just because they can use a special ability.
Aug 13, 2015 7:05 AM
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Lollo36 said:
Gravis said:

Since they go to a school that aims to overlook teens with powers and protect them, it definitely isn't unknown in Charlotte's world that "scientists" are experimenting on humans, though.

Let's wait until the show finishes before talking about this, many people have already predicted that the school isn't actually safe and there's a conspiracy going on.


I wouldn't be too surprise if Jun Maeda went that route
Aug 13, 2015 11:01 AM

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Westren Governments have done MUCH worse things that involved scientists than what goes on in this anime
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toyall123 said:
I'm a scientist. I can assure you that scientists are like most people, and most of us (the scientific community) see animal experimentation as an unfortunate but necessary circumstance. There are strict regulations regarding animal experimentation so that lab specimens will not experience unnecessary or severe pain, and so that resources could be used efficiently and for good purpose. You need proper documentation to prove that usage of these animals could be beneficial in the long term, and that these animals will be treated ethically. Human experimentation, like animal experimentation, is pretty broad. Hundreds of people sign up to be test subjects annually, and the probability of experiencing long-term harm is generally negligible. When the general populace thinks of human experimentation, they are thinking of lethal human experimentation, which is a criminal offense here in the United States (unsure about other countries), which goes against scientific ethics. If a scientist is performing lethal (or dangerous) human experimentation, he/she does not speak for the scientific community as a whole.


The series imply that these experiments are detrimental to the children with power, as seen with Nao's brother who is driven to insanity. As far as I am informed, lethal experiments only happen on prisoners if the scientists and the jailers can get away with it. Having children as guinea pigs is messed up. I hope to see whatever organization it is brought down or exposed to justice in the end.
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davinci12 said:
Westren Governments have done MUCH worse things that involved scientists than what goes on in this anime


That is in the past. If anything, the crazy Nazi experiments are exaggerated. China and North Korea don't care, because of obvious reasons, but I think Japan should be more conscious about human rights than that.
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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?


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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?

As a scientist I think the whole thing would be brought down pretty fast. Yes experiments are done on live animals, but what we learn from that can be quite useful.
Aug 14, 2015 5:06 AM
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Personally I say while not all scientist are evil some of them are pure evil. They are sneaking and love hiding things from the public.
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If killing animals for the sake scientific research considered evil/not evil, what about for satisfy human hunger?

*Vegans wins*
Aug 14, 2015 7:11 PM

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Illegal capture and experimentation by scientists is common in fiction where those with special powers exist, like Charlotte. The reason that there is no massive outcry here is simple - it is done secretly, without the knowledge of the general public.

In response to the question in the title, of course not all scientists are evil. However, there are certainly those who lack proper morals or adherence to the established ethics of science. This is not only the case in the anime, but also in real life. There are numerous recorded cases of scientists in the past committing horrible atrocities and breaking laws simply for the sake of their desire for knowledge or results by any means necessary.

Furthermore, as abhorrent as it may be, I don't think the idea of humans with special abilities being experimented on in secret is implausible in the least. The world can be a terrible place, especially to those with as much potential to be exploited as these kids with superpowers would be if they were real. When I thought about Yuu's ability to possess, for instance, its propensity towards assassination immediately came to mind. Imagine if the government could kill anyone they wanted to by simply possessing their bodyguard for 5 seconds and shooting them. Imagine a soldier on a battlefield with Misa's fire ability, except able to wield it on a massive scale? I'd be willing to bet some people would kill to harness these powers, let alone experiment on children.
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bibotot said:
davinci12 said:
Westren Governments have done MUCH worse things that involved scientists than what goes on in this anime


That is in the past. If anything, the crazy Nazi experiments are exaggerated. China and North Korea don't care, because of obvious reasons, but I think Japan should be more conscious about human rights than that.


lol thats what they want you to think
Aug 14, 2015 9:49 PM

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davinci12 said:
bibotot said:


That is in the past. If anything, the crazy Nazi experiments are exaggerated. China and North Korea don't care, because of obvious reasons, but I think Japan should be more conscious about human rights than that.


lol thats what they want you to think


Considering what the governments of some western countries have done and in some cases continue to do to prisoners (I'm looking at you CIA), I would say they are definitely still capable of terrible things. If anything, they are probably just better at hiding them.
Aug 15, 2015 4:13 PM

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I would say no, In the op there is one of the subtle words 'vaccine', and by the look of episode 6 when the unknown girl shows the guard the id, Im sure that they work for an organisation that might possibly be the scientists who are finding a cure for the teenagers who process powers. Just like the author saids "the anime will betray you in a good way", or maybe he means ayumi is brought bk to live later on.
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They might end up being extremists with good intentions.
Maybe they were willing to test on Nao and more so her brother to find a cure and would stop at nothing even if it ended up destroying their test subject.
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Some just don't know when to stop and blame their inhuman actions on the saying 'It's all in the name of science.'
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Illegal capture and experimentation by scientists is common in fiction where those with special powers exist, like Charlotte. The reason that there is no massive outcry here is simple - it is done secretly, without the knowledge of the general public.

In response to the question in the title, of course not all scientists are evil. However, there are certainly those who lack proper morals or adherence to the established ethics of science. This is not only the case in the anime, but also in real life. There are numerous recorded cases of scientists in the past committing horrible atrocities and breaking laws simply for the sake of their desire for knowledge or results by any means necessary.

Furthermore, as abhorrent as it may be, I don't think the idea of humans with special abilities being experimented on in secret is implausible in the least. The world can be a terrible place, especially to those with as much potential to be exploited as these kids with superpowers would be if they were real. When I thought about Yuu's ability to possess, for instance, its propensity towards assassination immediately came to mind. Imagine if the government could kill anyone they wanted to by simply possessing their bodyguard for 5 seconds and shooting them. Imagine a soldier on a battlefield with Misa's fire ability, except able to wield it on a massive scale? I'd be willing to bet some people would kill to harness these powers, let alone experiment on children.
Excuse me? The simple answer is ill8minati

ty for explaining i wasn't sure for a 3 seconds
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I would say no, In the op there is one of the subtle words 'vaccine', and by the look of episode 6 when the unknown girl shows the guard the id, Im sure that they work for an organisation that might possibly be the scientists who are finding a cure for the teenagers who process powers. Just like the author saids "the anime will betray you in a good way", or maybe he means ayumi is brought bk to live later on.


Go back and watch episode 2.
Aug 30, 2015 7:05 PM

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Ever heard of 'Unit 731'?

Also, what the German scientist did to jewish prisioners during ww2.

Yeah, not all scientist are good people.
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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?


is this a joke? go look at world war 2 what the japanese did to koreans and chinese with scientific experiments and what germans did to jews.

Im not talking about mass killings im talking about all sorts of fucked up experiments that were performed.

Reality is 10 times worse than anything portrayed in Charlotte...

Stop watching anime when you are clearly uneducated about the world you live in and probably should focus on that until you catch up.
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bibotot said:
The anime mentions that people with power are experimented on. But in real life, you see people objecting even to experiments on live animals and prisoners. How is it that these scientists can do so on innocent humans like that? Human rights organization will bring them down immediately.

What are your thoughts on this?


is this a joke? go look at world war 2 what the japanese did to koreans and chinese with scientific experiments and what germans did to jews.

Im not talking about mass killings im talking about all sorts of fucked up experiments that were performed.

Reality is 10 times worse than anything portrayed in Charlotte...

Stop watching anime when you are clearly uneducated about the world you live in and probably should focus on that until you catch up.


I agree with this guy ^^^

On another note, thanks to what mostly the Germans did to the jews, experiments on the human body, after the war we learned so much about our own bodies as to how long we can last in cold water and other examples. It was bad indeed what they did to those people but on a slightly good note like I said, we learned a lot from it.
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Aug 31, 2015 4:37 PM

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Watch Dark Matters Twisted But True, you will get the point.

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