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Jonny_Mhl said: Well looks like all the Gate ''fights'' will be one-sided until the end. I can't call this a fight, it's a total one-sided massacre and I really hope this change in the next episodes. this helicopters vs pikemen is this interesting? no its just boring where is interesting characters, plot twists, drama, emotions? 5/10, near drop PS reminder for some ecstatic kids - Apocalypse Now is a very dark and antiwar movie |
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MrJc said: kataklism said: and neither are lelei, tuka(kind of) the medic or kuribayashi. yup the only one that is actually crazy about him/ wants his D and to stay by his side is Of course I dont mean it as an actual harem. I was more or less joking. Well the meaning of harem in anime anyway is much different than whats in the dictionary. You can only have two girls liking the mc but lots of female characters and its marketed as a harem. Love hina, ao yori aoshi, hoshizora hdjsidh etc. I know gate is not harem Im not stupid. |
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
| I really love the way that this anime is developing. The fights are boring? It's possible... and?... It's a medieval civilization vs modern technology... What did you expect? It's not a fair fight. Of course. That is the message. Some animes like this, try to create spectacular battles with overpowered magicians or others stupid events to keep people entertained and ruin the anime. This anime try to focus on relations with other countries and new races. And sooner or later with other countries that want to invade this world. The real enemy in this show, are the forces on the other side of the door, EEUU, China... etc. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Have you seen how there were so many corpses in this episode without any trace of blood whatsoever? We are shown from quite a distance and their cloths probably absorbed most of the blood. Remember, dead people hearts stop beating so bleeding basically stops and those died quite fast. And how the people shot by rotary cannons & not even bleeding? We are not shown the corpses of the brigands inside the gate, otherwise we would have seen people missing limbs altogether. I am not asking for gushing blood like in Akame ga Kill or Code Geass, I am asking for at least a trace of blood. I have seen how people got injured many times & they're definitely not as clean as the ones in this episode. You will have to accept that this series does not emphasize the bloodshed, we know it is in there, but you will not see any closeups or pannings of the carnage. |
bibotot said: This episode is the best of the series so far. However, that is not saying much. The part with the helicopters and the song, I thought I was watching one of those movies about the Vietnam War. As a person from Vietnam, I am not too bothered by that. The atmosphere of that scene is great. The actions are quite nice with the SDF just absolutely massacre the brigands like they were nothing. That's what you get for bringing swords and spears against heavy machine guns. And Rory helps too. She is awesome. What I am concerned is that there are many female warriors in this anime, and so far, all the deaths are men. I don't want to raise some sexist discussion here, but I would like if there are females among the brigands just as there are females among the knights. The brigands feel dumb. They already take out one of the Imperial commander, and they are still confined to the area around the gate until morning. And then that leader gives a big talk, which is cheesy and feels like some generic villainy quote. I have no idea why at least a few of them are not running amok around the town, killing and pillaging. I still don't find myself too attached with either the elf or the mage. I hope they get more involved later on. Overall, this episode gets 3.5 out of 5 from me. I don't like previous episodes which consist mostly of build-up and some rather tamed interactions. However, this episode renews my hope with the series. I truly hope it will continue down the right track. all the harpies are females, in the manga some harpies die iirc, but afaik there hasn't been a single female human "common enemy" to be killed in either the manga or anime. |
| Meh 6 eps in and you are already saying this will be shit. Maybe it will but maybe not. For me it's fine the way it is. I've not read the novel but I doubt they will not find some hard enemy to deal with. This is an anime, and the MC is like a lot of MC right there. Someone said that only silly Naruto fan's would like this anime and then says that he wanted some pussy MC instead of this one because he kills people with no mercy. If you haven´t payed attention yet, they only killed those who attacked them and those who attacked the people that they wanted to make a deal with. And by the way he is a soldier, not some 16 year old guy who got some power and is now affraid of some shit. *sigh* this anime doesn´t suck if it doesn´t have your favourite type of MC .. chill out if you don´t like drop it. Now don´t make other people drop it just because this anime doesn´t look like your favourite anime. |
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| OP loli priestess and the Ride of the Valkyries. Great! |
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hinore said: But then that's the original point of Gate: this isn't war, it's just killing baby seals. I doubt that, because if that were true the JSDF would simply roll through the Empire and seize it by force. Nothing remotely like that has happened. They established a base to secure the approach to the Gate, sent out recon parties, and defended their base when attacked. No pursuit of defeated forces (which is a really key indicator). |
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hinore said: Genix said: How is that a good thing?! Why do some people hate fansevice? Now I feel like reading the manga more lol Also, @hinore: Dude, it's called diplomacy. Building good relations with the locals would move more along their agenda. Didn't you see how the public reacted back home in Japan when news about the Fire Drake's slaughtering of the elf village? They pointed fingers at the Army for over use of force. Soldiers don't practice diplomacy when someone is pointing a weapon at your throat. Understand the situation: They left their buddy, their superior officer with the enemy. An enemy that doesn't understand to treat their prisoners well, remember the treaty? Now look at the real world. Would you Leave your buddy with the VC or NVA during Vietnam? How about in Iraq or Afghanistan? How 'diplomatic' are you going to be? How is this situation different? And you can't say they aren't the enemy. Itami told everyone who they were, and given their treatment at swordpoint, it was obvious they didn't know about the treaty. So would you leave your friend with an enemy who didn't know the war was over and hope they didn't torture or outright behead him? As for the overuse of force. The soldier in the protected area won't know that because all news is censored in the battle theatre. One of the lessons learned from Vietnam. For me it would depend on the situation, and the officer. If I trusted him enough to let him make the call, then I'd pull the unit back. If I thought he was an idiot butter bar then hell no. I'll bet you the Sergeant Major pulled back but is keeping those knights under observation. Just remember the difference between a Soldier and a Warrior: to a Warrior his persona achievements are paramount, to a Soldier discipline and the mission are paramount. |
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| I have noticed some posters deploring the actions of the JSDF against the Empire. I find this sadly amusing. Apparently they would rather support the Empire which has demonstrated it deliberately targets unarmed civilians and takes slaves. So far, the JSDF has only targeted armed, attacking soldiers and brigands. I surmise they are stuck in a mindset of Military = Evil and they can't break those chains of thought. |
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| Excellent episode, violence was not spared, as well as the quantity of action, at first thought the anime would present a simple plot and as well as the development, but every episode I'm surprising me, further in this episode also showed a great reference to a mariores scenes of the cinema, I'm increasingly excited to continue watching the anime .. |
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mangamuscle said: Pat_To_Do-List said: Have you seen how there were so many corpses in this episode without any trace of blood whatsoever? We are shown from quite a distance and their cloths probably absorbed most of the blood. Remember, dead people hearts stop beating so bleeding basically stops and those died quite fast. And how the people shot by rotary cannons & not even bleeding? We are not shown the corpses of the brigands inside the gate, otherwise we would have seen people missing limbs altogether. I am not asking for gushing blood like in Akame ga Kill or Code Geass, I am asking for at least a trace of blood. I have seen how people got injured many times & they're definitely not as clean as the ones in this episode. You will have to accept that this series does not emphasize the bloodshed, we know it is in there, but you will not see any closeups or pannings of the carnage. Unfortunately, even their clothes did not have any blood on it. And there's even an up close scene to the corpses, & there's not blood at all. I mean, come on. Do not try to defend this anime too much. Please rewatch it again & see it for yourself how squeaky clean the battlefield was. Even when we were shown the aftermath, there's no blood on any of the corpses. I like this anime so far, but I would not go that far to defend it like you do. The brigands outside the gate were also shot by the rotary cannons, & there's no blood. I understand that, but then try to do a better job at hiding the need for bloodshed. For example, do not show the aftermath of the battle if they really do not want to show blood. And if they do want to show it, then show us some blood. |
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Sakiru said: It would be so much better, with a MC who's afraid but with some military background and wants to protect his country, sent in recognition through the Gate to gather some intel. Not a gigantic army which has no meaning at all, before invading, it's better to see what kind of world you have in front of you... sigh. The idea was so great, and it felt so flat, really I'm disappointed. The anime producers left out a key scene from the first episode. That's misleading people who didn't read the manga. In the manga, the Imperial general shows no doubts, and instead declares victory, far too soon.  Declaring victory, on top of a pile of bodies in front of the Ginza Wako department store. Big mistake. Because that's not in the anime, it's not clear why the JSDF goes in heavy. The JSDF does start by sending scouts, as the JDSF commander mentions before the troops enter the Gate. They report back that there's enemy on the other side. So the JSDF puts the tanks up front, where they belong. It's all downhill for the Imperial Army from then on. |
| I just love the senseless hate that this anime receives. Just because it is different. While i do not wish to compare the two, SAO received the same senseless hate. (I know this will receive a lot of hate because "how can someone like sao"!) Ok, but that is not the point. The point is that i am tired of all of this. Im tired of "This anime is shit" "This anime needs that" "Im dropping this anime" "Everyone who watches this is an idiot" Why cant we all agree that all anime is different? There is no "good" or "bad" anime. There is only different anime. If you dont like a certain anime. Just dont watch it. Nobody should care why you dont like it. Nobody should care that you are dropping it, do you announce to the whole world when you are taking a dump? I for sure dont. These haters cant even understand that this anime isnt about war and fighting only.This is not hellsing or that type of anime where in every episode someones head will go off. This anime focuses on other things. The same haters are the biggest hypocrites i have ever seen posting anywhere. They cry out against the "op" army or the "op" MC of gate. Yet love the same op Mc in Overlord. Well, one last thing for the haters. If your brain doesnt have enough power to understand a plot or a story that isnt spoon fed to you, doesnt mean the story isnt there. Rant over. |
| There is no "Good or "bad" anime. There is only different anime. |
xcess090 said: Actually I'd say this was at least more realistic than certain other anime with mass killings because GATE actually directly shows people die.That was a fun episode even though I wish it was bloodier, it will have a much more intense feel i it was imo. Rory was badass and I can't wait to see what will happen next time. |
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| Too much moe, too less blood compared to manga. dropped |
Manjuu said: xcess090 said: Actually I'd say this was at least more realistic than certain other anime with mass killings because GATE actually directly shows people die.That was a fun episode even though I wish it was bloodier, it will have a much more intense feel i it was imo. Rory was badass and I can't wait to see what will happen next time. Well, you know. If a single human doesnt spill 10 liters of blood then that anime is not violent enough, not realistic enough, nnot bloody enoug, too moe, too disneyfied, etc.... |
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hinore said: Jonny_Mhl said: Well looks like all the Gate ''fights'' will be one-sided until the end. I can't call this a fight, it's a total one-sided massacre and I really hope this change in the next episodes. 3/5 Edit: loled at the choppers theme. You'll be severely disappointed. Modern army vs. Roman army is gonna be a slaughter regardless. But then that's the original point of Gate: this isn't war, it's just killing baby seals. That did not prevent those Romans from trying, though. Their efforts were trounced.  |
Sakiru said: Dextix said: I just love the senseless hate that this anime receives. Just because it is different. While i do not wish to compare the two, SAO received the same senseless hate. (I know this will receive a lot of hate because "how can someone like sao"!) Ok, but that is not the point. The point is that i am tired of all of this. Im tired of "This anime is shit" "This anime needs that" "Im dropping this anime" "Everyone who watches this is an idiot" Why cant we all agree that all anime is different? There is no "good" or "bad" anime. There is only different anime. If you dont like a certain anime. Just dont watch it. Nobody should care why you dont like it. Nobody should care that you are dropping it, do you announce to the whole world when you are taking a dump? I for sure dont. These haters cant even understand that this anime isnt about war and fighting only.This is not hellsing or that type of anime where in every episode someones head will go off. This anime focuses on other things. The same haters are the biggest hypocrites i have ever seen posting anywhere. They cry out against the "op" army or the "op" MC of gate. Yet love the same op Mc in Overlord. Well, one last thing for the haters. If your brain doesnt have enough power to understand a plot or a story that isnt spoon fed to you, doesnt mean the story isnt there. Rant over. Go watch Log Horizon and you'll see that SAO is not well-written, they fucked up the LN and made a big harem with a little to none explanations of the mechanics of the game. And Kirito is the OP MC which passes through the whole game by himself although it's supposed to be colaborative, just because well... it's the MC. And the little touch of incest is great too. Overlord as I explained, is not based on some stupid MC fan of lolis with no brain at all, who complains in every episode that he wouldn't like to be there, in case we had forgotten. Overlord is a well-written LN, because each character is fully developed and doesn't follow some stupid stereotype. The MC is a mastermind who weighs every decision before acting, although he has the power to slaughter the whole country. This anime is weak on many points, and on top of that it displays too much fanservice. Maybe the manga is better, but I don't want to lose my time to read that. For your information, i have watched both. And you cant compare them. They are completely different. The only share a premise, and that is it. The meat inside the packet is completely different, doesnt mean that one is better than another, they just taste differently. Also about the solo part. I found that "critique" to be funny. My whole mmorpg carrer i was a lone wolf. I soloed everything, even 4 man dungeons.. It is possible. It aint easy, but possible. The only time i grouped up with someone was in the big events, bigget than 4 player ones, because even i couldnt handle them. Also there are many op MC's out there, and for some reason kirito receivesthe most hate. And again, the critisism of MC of gate. Look, you may not like hes an otaku, but hes a pretty good guy. He doesnt complain, he does his duty. Also, overlord no matter how much i like it, doesnt have the best development or the most original characters. Even momonga himself is a discount Lelouch. Also, i like how everyone compares gate and overlord and says that Overlord is better because hes smart and thinks ahbout everything and treat gate people as merciless killers when they also think about their actions and do not act stupidly. And that fanservice, i laughed. The only thing in this episode that can be treated as fanservice is where our favoritte waifu litterally came from the deaths. But that is just her character. I find it funny that people find gate "fanservicy" when overlord also has its scenes with fanservice and even legends like Code geass had them, even more of them. |
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| First post on this show just because I loved the episode so much. Was literally just sitting on Crunchyroll waiting for this to become available. It was just great, loved seeing the characters interacting, especially Kuribayashi and Rory. They had such great chemistry together I'd love to see them team up again in the future. Finally gave her something badass to do. The ending was a bit silly though. I realise they have to make the JSDF finally be on the back foot but it feels more like an excuse to have him get caught by sexy knights than a real plot twist. Kuribayashi is definitely the best girl though. Not looking forwards to the next episode as much as I was looking forwards to this episode after 5, but still hopefully it'll be good and we get to see some more of Pina. ...also, those ringlets. |
Dextix said: And that fanservice, i laughed. The only thing in this episode that can be treated as fanservice is where our favoritte waifu litterally came from the deaths. But that is just her character. I find it funny that people find gate "fanservicy" when overlord also has its scenes with fanservice and even legends like Code geass had them, even more of them. To be fair, most people don't know what fanservice is. As someone who just finished watching Strike Witches and then started watching this, there is really no fanservice in this anime. Rory nearly came at the deaths but you saw nothing. The manga itself had full upskirt shots of her during combat, this does not. Kuribayashi in the manga and LN has huge tits for no apparent reason, in this they are really toned down. In the manga she had a low cut tactical vest to show off her tits whilst in this she dresses like the men. People just like to complain and it's sad to see that. Like the people who whine that this doesn't have much blood... I don't know why that somehow makes it worse for you, and this is coming from someone who is fine with lots of blood in anime. The anime is fun, the characters are great, people just like to complain and think they're the true anime fans and anyone not like them isn't a 'true fan'. |
konatachan80 said: Nah, it would be quite silly to inadvertently break the treaty just after signing it (although that has happened many times in real life), so he tried to minimize the scuffle until those knights get the update from the "horse's mouth". Hah, well, he could've just stayed in the car or fired a shot in the air. Getting out and walking right up to them was just the writer wanting to get their character caught. For all he knew they would have killed him immediately, so he hardly deliberately got himself caught to make friends. The other soldiers just leaving him was a bit silly too. Can't say I'd see someone like Chuka or Rory who are obsessed with him, just letting him get kidnapped at sword tip, or a hot head like Kuri just watching casually. Just felt a bit overly silly when they could've made it more realistic. |
Dextix said: Manjuu said: Actually I'd say this was at least more realistic than certain other anime with mass killings because GATE actually directly shows people die. Well, you know. If a single human doesnt spill 10 liters of blood then that anime is not violent enough, not realistic enough, nnot bloody enoug, too moe, too disneyfied, etc.... why does everyone in the world -not only on internet- think only in extremes? it's not "no blood" or "mortal kombat-style blood" you know, there could be "proper amount of blood" as well. |
kataklism said: why does everyone in the world -not only on internet- think only in extremes? it's not "no blood" or "mortal kombat-style blood" you know, there could be "proper amount of blood" as well. Pretty much. I was happy with the amount of blood shown. Just the weird alpha mentality of some anime fans, where everything has to be dark, gritty or bloody just to make them watch it. Like people who write off entire genres of anime as "too moe" or "for kids". But hey, they're the ones losing out, not us. |
| Heck yeah !!!!Dem otherworlders be like "DAFUQ is dat giant metal bird ??????!!!!!" and i'm like ,"U dumbasses don't stand a chance against modern warfare " |
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ThatDarnIrishMan said: kataklism said: why does everyone in the world -not only on internet- think only in extremes? it's not "no blood" or "mortal kombat-style blood" you know, there could be "proper amount of blood" as well. Pretty much. I was happy with the amount of blood shown. Just the weird alpha mentality of some anime fans, where everything has to be dark, gritty or bloody just to make them watch it. Like people who write off entire genres of anime as "too moe" or "for kids". But hey, they're the ones losing out, not us. personal opinion, but i too think there wasn't enough blood. like, literally there wasn't blood, i didn't see a single drop of red liquid in the whole anime, i don't ask guts(i don't like seeing them anyway) just... blood, it feels like watching mediaset's one piece here. yes, the original one piece had more blood than this, and i am talking about blood, the fluid, not about gore. |
| [quote=konatachan80 To someone that's never seen a gun (and what it can do) that would mean? loud noise? But yes, it was a silly move.. then again, he's a bit goofy. Most of the girls see him as their savior/rescuer, and Rory sees him like an interesting man. Not to mention, Rory always seem curious about what he'll do in different situations. Kuri (if you meant the one I talked about in the post above), well, she follows orders. Basically, if he says "jump", they'll probably ask "how high"..but for different reasons.[/quote] A loud noise still makes animals run. They don't know what it is. And when they have heard of the weapons and what they did to their armies, they'd be scared. I get you're trying to defend the scene, but it's plain silly. You say the girls see him as a saviour, which means they would want to help him when he's likely to be killed. Rory finds him interesting, yes, but she's unlikely to let him just get killed. Kuri also doesn't follow orders, that's kinda her bit. She's hot headed and charges into combat as shown in Episode 6, especially to defend her comrades. She charged in to defend Rory, so it's likely she'd do that even faster for someone she knows like Itama. So yeah, still highly doubt they'd be like "Nevermind, he asked us to leave, let's leave him to die." The point in my other post about her having huge breasts for no apparent reason is it doesn't really do anything for the character apart from add sex appeal. Naturally having large breasts is fine, when it's stuck in an anime and she has her vest tailored to make the tits look even bigger, it gets to the point where it's obvious what it was intended for. Just like the Strike Witches not wearing trousers. It's just an obvious choice for sex appeal. In the LN she is meant to have a small frame but big boobs. In the manga she has quite a sturdy frame with even bigger boobs. Anime she is a normal woman with larger than average breasts for her size that aren't drawn attention to because she's always in full uniform. I really disagree that Gate only has "a few drops". I remember blood in it quite frequently, especially in this most recent episode. Honestly, I'm fine without there being tonnes of blood in it. Anime with lots of blood honestly don't tend to do that well or get remembered that fondly because they just go for "OMFG SO SHOCKING" route which many people get bored with quickly and it limits the potential viewing demographic when it really isn't very important to the story, such as Muv Luv: Alternative, Deadman Wonderland, Elfen Lied, Claymore, etc. One of the few that broke this rule was Attack on Titan and I'm not really sure why. I like most of the anime I mentioned above, happy with blood and such but I really can't pretend that I'm upset that they made it less gory for the anime. They do that with quite a few anime, even things like Deadman Wonderland, Claymore, etc. They often tone down the gore and violence since when you show a still picture of something, it is rarely as tasteless or violent as it happening in motion. |
kataklism said: personal opinion, but i too think there wasn't enough blood. like, literally there wasn't blood, i didn't see a single drop of red liquid in the whole anime, i don't ask guts(i don't like seeing them anyway) just... blood, it feels like watching mediaset's one piece here. yes, the original one piece had more blood than this, and i am talking about blood, the fluid, not about gore. To be fair, your eyes were closed then or you were watching a different anime. There was blood in it. That is simply a fact. Maybe you had some weird censored version (if that even exists) but I watched it on Crunchyroll and there was certainly blood. Go back and watch it again. There were charred bodies after the dragon attack, blood coated Itama when he killed the guy during the initial attack, dragon got shredded by heli in first ep (not blood but shredded skin), orcs shredded in gunfire defending civilians, blood on the horse that got shot defending Leilei, blood when AA shot down dragon over the base, blood splatters when people were cut with swords in the opening attack, blood when the Lion dude was injured, blood on Kuribayashi's bayonet after she stabbed the huge guy,Rory had blood on her face after killing the captain of the guard, etc. So... yeah... sorry, but you're just wrong. It really is as simple as that. Those are just the blood splatters I remember without going back to see the show, so I'm sure there are probably more than that. Too many people are used to over the top tv shows or movies, where someone getting shot by a small calibre pistol causes a splash of blood or a pink mist. It just doesn't happen. Shooting someone who is wearing platemail with a small calibre weapon will likely only puncture one side and even if it went straight through, the armour or heavy clothing would keep most of the blood in. Everyone just wants over the top blood nowadays which in itself is probably more unrealistic than less blood. But that last bit is just my personal opinion on what I view as more realistic. The blood scenes in the anime bit is just fact. |
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