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Jun 23, 2008 1:39 PM
#101
I got about halfway through this game and gave up. It was just... well, it was good, but it wasn't amazing like FF7, 8, 9 and 10 were. |
Jun 23, 2008 1:56 PM
#102
It's actually my favourite Final Fantasy. I like that they ditched random battles, and unlike previous games in the series it feels more tactical. The storyline needed some work, but I didn't find it that bad, even if it does rip off Star Wars in many ways. At least the plot revolve around a whiny emo teenager with amnesia again. |
Jun 23, 2008 3:13 PM
#103
It was meh, I havent finished it and I pretty much bought it when it came out. I dont really like the battle system. Turn based for the win IMO. FFXIII is going into Advent Children style battle, so meh, perhaps the *fap* graphics will make me think better of it. |
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Jun 23, 2008 3:42 PM
#104
The_manimator said: FFXIII is going into Advent Children style battle, so meh, perhaps the *fap* graphics will make me think better of it. Advent Children is the movie... unless your talking about Crisis Core or something. |
Jun 23, 2008 4:37 PM
#105
I know its the movie, but you know when they fight its all fast paced and movie like. Well that is what they are planning for FFXIII Fast paced button smashing! |
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Jun 23, 2008 11:45 PM
#106
something i noticed about this game compared to other FF that was very unusual was that it was "easy" most of the other FF i played, summons, magic and techniques or other skills are REQUIRED to even beat common monsters, in this game if you set ur gambits right with enough strength and healing ability you can easily beating the game only using physical attacks and healing... and i did beat the final boss using only physical damage with my weaker party, actually i just set my controler down and walked away for a few minutes and let my gambits do everything, however i did reload the save and am going back to finish off the few hunts i left off which i must say are actaully WAY harder than the final sequence... the story was meh, graphics were great, combat system was iffy had it's strong points and it's flaws, it's better than random battles every 5 seconds, but the gambit system makes the game TOO easy, reminded me a lot of the Lunar battle system. there characters are okay the fact that there is no one main character you have to use all the time is pretty nice... it's still a great game and might as well try out since the newer final fantasy 13 is probably going to have similar battle system |
Jun 24, 2008 12:18 AM
#107
it starts out with alot of promise and a seemingly interesting battle system, but then destroys itself. problems: 1) the main character is annoying and has nothing to do with the story 2) the story is "get artifact a. oh the enemies got it first, in that case get artifact b!" 3) you can power level by putting your controller down and going to get coffee 4) all of the characters level up exactly the same and have all the same skills available and are not unique in any way. 5) you can make it through the game without ever needing to use any magiks, espers, or quickenings (especially if you powerlevel) 6) way too many useless spells, items, and technicks 7) too long and boring strengths: 1) awsome cities 2) good music 3) good battle system concept 4) awsome graphics 5) awsome character design (visual) i think ff13 looks alot better. but i also think that FF has kinda sucked since 10. as a matter of fact, vaan is just a less stupid version of tidus. they are both some of the worst main characters in rpg history imo though. |
Jun 24, 2008 6:50 PM
#108
Jun 25, 2008 4:35 AM
#109
It's not bad Final Fantasy XII hasn't got that much of a story, but still, the new real time action is new for Final Fantasy, and it works !!! Now compared to FFIX or FFX, this game is nothing, not that much mini games or nothing... Only endless amounts of hunter quests. |
Jun 25, 2008 4:51 AM
#110
kanedahelpme said: These were the game's biggest flaws gameplay wise. If there had been any sort of a class system, the whole game would have been a lot more enjoyable. Even something to the lines of "sphere grid" would have been betterproblems: 4) all of the characters level up exactly the same and have all the same skills available and are not unique in any way. 6) way too many useless spells, items, and technicks kanedahelpme said: QFTbut i also think that FF has kinda sucked since 10. as a matter of fact, vaan is just a less stupid version of tidus. they are both some of the worst main characters in rpg history imo though. |
Jun 25, 2008 4:58 AM
#111
Vegreaper said: kanedahelpme said: These were the game's biggest flaws gameplay wise. If there had been any sort of a class system, the whole game would have been a lot more enjoyable. Even something to the lines of "sphere grid" would have been betterproblems: 4) all of the characters level up exactly the same and have all the same skills available and are not unique in any way. 6) way too many useless spells, items, and technicks They should have kept the leveling system of Final Fantasy X, now that was an epic system, you get one sort of character (fighter, thief, healer,...) but once you max out there skills and such, you could go for more classes through the sphere grid. If there where spells/technicks you didn't want, you could just skip them. Best system I have ever seen... |
Jul 1, 2008 5:48 PM
#112
i think its medium, i saw other games that where worse............final fantasy 3 was quite weird.......and to tell the true, i think that tactics advance was far better than any other game of the series, so i think its neither bad or good |
Jul 2, 2008 2:16 AM
#113
Got half way through before dropping it, very forgettable, boring world, and even more stale characters.The "main" lead Vaan was a joke.Gameplay? I had enough of it in FFXI. Worst FF for me. |
Jul 2, 2008 3:23 PM
#114
Maybe the worst, with 9 and 8 in my opinion, I can't decide wich... The story was so boring, the characters set up was so stupid and gameplay, oh gawd...too awful |
Jul 4, 2008 1:19 PM
#115
Aug 12, 2008 1:18 PM
#116
In short, Story sucked Characters sucked Battle system OWNED Optional bosses OWNED Hunting quests Owned (Vaan's gay) |
Jul 24, 2009 10:41 PM
#117
I did enjoyed Final fantasy XII Pros - Great Voice Acting that is even better than its original language. - Superb Music that fits perfectly in every environment of the game - Rich background. When I played Final Fantasy XII, I felt as if a stepped into another world with its own history, society, customs, and values such as religion, mythology, architecture, speech patterns, clothing, etc. The Clan Bestiary is even like a scientific journal that record every monster by their taxonomy ( Genus and species). -Beautiful environments - Interesting side quest. It was side quest like the hunts and rare game that help me leveled up and gain money so easily in the game. - New Battle system. I find it interesting and rather refreshing to try Cons -Not much a in depth character driven storyline that affects the entire main cast Especially Vaan and Penelo, whom are pretty much have no important role in the storyline. - Weak Espers. God I hate these things. They were more powerful as bosses you have to fight agaisnt than actual summons. I never even use a single one in battle and I just collect them for the sake of having them -Uninteresting Main villain. Vayne Solidor seems more like a corrupt politician than a real final fantasy villain like Doctor Cid or the Judges. -Need of a Guide. Honesty, their was never a Final Fantasy that require me to go on the internet so many times to look for stuff like the zodiac spear, items to make weapons, etc. |
Jul 25, 2009 9:21 AM
#119
Dig up relics in a desert, not a forum. |
Jul 25, 2009 10:54 AM
#120
Darkeiko said: Wrong. I died horribly. You basically have to level your arse off failing at recognizing a game's focal point =/= terrible |
Jul 25, 2009 12:10 PM
#121
Probably the best FF yet, what I noticed about hardcore final fantasy fans, If it isn't the same generic, cliche, boring crap it hasn't been for the last 20 years they won't like it. Final Fantasy fans want 30 spin off characters of cloud, a battle system that hasn't change in 20 so years and same sappy love story over and over again. Finally we get a Final Fantasy that breaks away from the clone army hive mind and is actually amazing and they hate it. |
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Jul 25, 2009 5:08 PM
#122
Jigero said: Except the story was suffering from a major identity crisis as I saw it. It did try to implement more political intrigues and elements like you see in FFT, but the ludicrous decision to not make Basch the main character after all and throw in some useless brats to appease the demography and then turning it all into a dungeon crawler with sometimes questionable goals behind every turn made it seem like they couldn't decide whether to make it like all the others before it or turn it into something new.Probably the best FF yet, what I noticed about hardcore final fantasy fans, If it isn't the same generic, cliche, boring crap it hasn't been for the last 20 years they won't like it. Final Fantasy fans want 30 spin off characters of cloud, a battle system that hasn't change in 20 so years and same sappy love story over and over again. Finally we get a Final Fantasy that breaks away from the clone army hive mind and is actually amazing and they hate it. If they had only emphasized more on Basch and Ashe's roles as leading figures of the resistance and relied more on political twists like adding in that Rozarrian Empire into the fray and giving the player some control over how events played out rather than standard RPG fare, it could have been brilliant. |
Jul 25, 2009 5:58 PM
#123
It was alright. It wasn't worth the 3 year wait, but it was still pretty good. |
Jul 25, 2009 6:33 PM
#124
wow it's been a while since I seen this topic. 0_o My view still stands since early 2008. Some good ideas with rather mixed execution. |
Jul 25, 2009 6:50 PM
#125
Probably my least favourite of the 3d games, its ok but I just couldnt force myself to finish it after getting really bored 50 hours in and I havent picked it up since. |
Jul 25, 2009 7:04 PM
#126
anyways, xii is up there as one of my faves, the story's a piece of turd and convoluted as hell but everything else was bloody great. and for the record, the gambit system is just a three dimensional version of the turn based system. anyone who prefers pressing the same buttons over and over again while their character stands there posing in front of the monster over gambits is stupid. |
Jul 25, 2009 7:09 PM
#127
FFXII? I am about 9 hours into the game.. The gameplay is kind of like Monster Hunter when it comes to grinding. The good thing is unlike Monster Hunter, you won't lose stamina for running in the desert or icy mountains, while weapons do not rust no matter how many times you use it. I don't really like it as that the monster targetting doesn't work like Monster Hunter as that you have to wait for a period of time after making an attack as opposed to attacking whenever you like. In other words, the battle system combines the original FF turn-based system with Monster Hunter's. Story is pretty good if you like Lord of the Rings as that it focuses primarily on European medieval politics and war which is what I don't like. Some of the characters look like they came from the Dragon Quest series as that not all the races are humans but at the same time, they are humanoids. The protagonist is definitely too young and seems out of place. Why is the kid getting dragged into an intense clash of multiple sides with multiple causes? Makes little sense. The other characters are okay and suits the story well. In fact, I think Basch should have become the protagonist while Ashe plays the female lead. Oh well.. The graphics and audio are awesome, streaming CG and most towns are huge with the exception of the few camps scattered across the battlefield, otherwise known as the large map in most FF games. The soundtrack is pretty good, even though its not what I like but most people would find it appealing. Customization is okay, nothing too spectacular. The controls are different than most games but you can get used to it after awhile, not much of a problem. It is the last FF game on the PS2 and also the latest available FF game for consoles. Generally, I would rate this game with a very high score but I don't like it and I rarely play it. 9 hours into the game but that was like a few weeks ago.. |
Jul 25, 2009 8:01 PM
#128
I've played like 15 hours atm and ye, this games very different. - The story seems good this far, but its hard to say for me atm. - characters are terrible, really. they just threw a gang of guys togheter and voila, we got ourself a party. balthier is the only character i like, he makes me laugh. - Graphics are bloody brilliant. as good as it gets on a ps2 i guess. - license board NEEDS TO GO. if ff13 is like that i'll seriously demand a refund. - combat was ok i guess. random encounters could have stayed imo, but this is fine to. Guess it made the game more "smooth" as the screen dont crack every 5 seconds. the gambit system was weird, just not my style perhaps? the summons sucked balls and the quickenings were just weird too. also swapping characters in combat was a pain, but maybe im doing it wrong, cus i cant really beliave it can be this bad.. but ye, i dont think this game is for me so ill probably be dropping it pretty soon. ill just play a little more to see where the story is going.. |
Jul 27, 2009 12:22 AM
#129
Hated trying to get Danjuro. XO I actually liked the farming/grinding aspect of this game. The gameplay was a breath of fresh air although I wouldn't mind a more traditional FF gameplay either. The graphics were amazing. Specially the cities. I liked the backstory; however, they didn't develop the main story properly. It felt rushed. I still wonder what the heck Van and Penelo were doing in my party. They were pointless plotwise. The Espers had their use, but it was too much trouble to use them effectively. I didn't mind the gambit system, board license, and other stuffs. |
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Jul 27, 2009 1:23 AM
#130
I have mixed feelings on it. I really like being able to run around during a battle instead of using turn base. Also the graphics are amazing. I was in complete awe watching the opening. However I'm more than half way though the game and I have yet to see the story progress much. In fact, it's kinda boring and been so long since I picked up the game, I can't even remember much of the plot anymore. Also, this game require many hours of grinding. So all in all, I'd have to say the games pretty good but it's definitely not one of the best. |
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Jul 27, 2009 2:53 PM
#131
The story was getting interesting, but the battle system was just so boring that i could not keep playing... |
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Jul 29, 2009 3:49 PM
#132
I love it, the story and the characters are awesome, the graphics are decent, though the music pisses me off sometimes, it's a good overall game |
Jul 29, 2009 6:21 PM
#133
I actually liked the game..but I pretty much like any Final Fantasy Game I get my hands on (at least the main games). The only Final Fantasy games I find hard to get into are the really old Final Fantasy games but that's just because I find really old games in general hard to get into. I guess it's just the visual look...too used to all the new 3D games. |
Jul 29, 2009 7:14 PM
#134
I gave the game a decent shot and put atleast 10-15 hours into it but I still didn't enjoy it. The combat was very fun and interesting for me but every time there was a cutscene the only thing I could think of was "star wars without a love story" Does this sound familiar? You are a young boy who joins up with two pirates/smugglers. With these two companions you go into a giant starship and save a princess that was captured by the enemy empire. You find her in a small jail cell and there is some possible love interest vibes between the guy smuggler and her. |
Jul 30, 2009 9:39 AM
#135
Jul 31, 2009 6:37 PM
#136
Final Fantasy XII is actually my favorite of the series. I love the serious aspect of it and the political drama is so intriguing. I think the characters, for what they are, were quite interesting. Also, it was nice exploring the motives behind Vayne and such. Really, I think it's easier to like for those who are fans of the Ivalice Alliance, like Final Fantasy Tactics. The stories are similar in style and presentation. |
Aug 1, 2009 8:49 AM
#137
I've put in about 30 hours to the game, and I must say, I prefer it to the few of the other games I've played in the series. I dunno, but I like the gameplay, and story, despite it being boring at times. |
Aug 1, 2009 1:23 PM
#138
I found XII to be one of my least favorite games in the series. I admit I only put in about 15-16 hours worth of playtime but from what I played the story was bland and too political for my liking. The gameplay was interesting... but it got boring after the first 5 hours in my opinion. I'm sure epic bosses later in the game would have made the gameplay a lot more fun but I couldn't stick to it long enough to get there. I also didn't like their License Board system or whatever it was called (its been awhile but I think that's what it was called right?) the idea of having to go through the board learning stuff just to be able to wear hats was ridiculous. Final Fantasy as a series has really gone down hill since Squaresoft turned into Square Enix. Final Fantasy X was the last game made under Squaresoft (though I still didn't like it as much as the earlier games) and Square Enix started with the pos that is X-2. |
Aug 1, 2009 3:31 PM
#139
FFXII sucks. And I probably should add why, cause else this post is pretty much useless right? well, pretty much the whole battle system sucks. I either want to do things by running around and beat some monsters or do things turnbased like pokemon and FFX. Not both. Running around until you can hit something makes me insane ;___; Don't get me started on the story and characters and the character designs. There is no way a princess would feel comfortable with such a short skirt. She'd want it, but I don't think she can. And Penelo's got panties printed on her clothes. Balthier's clothing makes him look like a woman and Fran's too skimpy for her own good. And how the hell is Reks' armour made? You totally can slash his stomach and kill him. And then the story. It's just like any other RPG. /End rant. And if you do like it, good for you (: ! Please don't let the fun be spoiled by my little rant. edit: yes, the graphics are amazing! =D |
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Aug 2, 2009 1:51 PM
#140
I didn't like it... It just didn't seem like a FF game... The whole thing was about politics. The fighting system sucked. Yeah I was very mad after playing FF XII when FF X was so good! |
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Nov 1, 2022 9:17 AM
#141
personally for me it was an okay final fantasy game still prefer 7 |
Nov 13, 2022 2:58 PM
#143
One thing that I can tell you about FFXII is that the original game is more thought provoking than Zodiac Age. Zodiac Age forces you to use the License Board and you end up getting a super easy playthrough. So easy, even a three year-old can do it. I prefer playing the original game without using the License Board which comes off as a cheating device to me. The Mantra thing in DDS never gave me trouble and it was able to hold the candle to FFX's Sphere Grid. Story-wise, I agree that Penelo is a cardboard cutout character and I find a decent amount of women in JRPGs to be unrelatable (Magilou is the worst comedy relief character in the history of RPGs; in the history of sucking and WTF do developers bother implementing annoying, wannabe jesters in a JRPG?). I used to think that Ashe was hot, but ended up finding out that she's a high-strung teen girl and a massive bitch. What planet is she from anyway? It's interesting that Balthier gets easily annoyed by gaylord Vaan similarly to how Cecil got annoyed by that stupid, useless bard Edward in FF4. Really Edward? Why do you even bother fighting at all if all you do is play a harp? Speaking of bards, the ones in Ragnarok Online are far more useful and the bard class just got a kickass endgame form called the troubadour. If only the bards in FF can shoot arrows or kill with instruments. But yeah! Screw Zodiac Age and I'll gladly do the No License Board run again. I can play JRPGs without making my characters go Super Saiyan. Also, I rather play FF5 Advance if I want an FF game with job classes. |
Dec 7, 2022 8:55 AM
#144
The characters are boring like FF9, but it's alright. As I said before, I hate Zodiac Age. |
Dec 7, 2022 10:17 AM
#145
Kurt_Irving said: Also, I rather play FF5 Advance if I want an FF game with job classes. I typically prefer RPGs with job systems, but Zodiac Age has the most boring jobs in the entire franchise. I suppose it was a bad idea to add jobs to a complete game that had been designed without them. The "dresspheres" of X-2 are so much more fun and balanced; you should try it if you haven't yet! |
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