Higurashi When They Cry: Abducted by Demons Arc
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| I felt like that scene with Satoko was such a 180 for Shion. I know she probably just lost it for a moment, out of jelousy... But that was still not cool. I'm inclined to think most of us would react very differently if a male had done all that. I honestly didn't take Shion for a bully, but... I guess it may run in the family. Still, I think she can redeem herself. Maybe. Also, Rena is best creepy girl. |
| This new ninja version of Shion is awesome, I laughed when she started to just randomly kick Satoko's ass lmao. Also Satoshi just seems like a blond version of Keiishi, it'll be interesting to see how he dies =p. |
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| Too confusing. This is making me question whether the times I thought Mion was there was actually Shion. No way to tell them apart! Has it been Shion all along? I have no idea! |
| woah what kind of strength do these characters have sending people flying with just a push or shove. |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| Satoshi strikes me as an interesting character so far. Nice to see it in a different year and with Satoshi instead of Keiichi this time. And I felt bad for Satoko in this episode |
| Jeez, these guys are ridiculously strong. Whenever a person's angry or distressed, a small push or throw sends their opponents flying... hilarious. |
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| Why a lot of people are ok with Satuko being abused or bullied like that ? Hating a character or being annoyed by their behavior doesn't justify this. In fact this explains a lot about most human nature I had always wondered about... |
| How funny would it have been if Shion hadn't told Mion what happened? Mion just comes into school the next day and is like "WTF happened here?" XD Also I'm assuming that by the end of this they'll find out about Shion. I think. I mean in the other versions they do. I don't like how they change the history. Like in one version Mion and Rena do the killings, in another its the demon in Mion. I just want a consistent past with various possible outcomes. |
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
| Noo!!! dont hurt Satoko any more, STHAP!!!! That is too much for that kid..... T.T |
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| Lol, THAT'S Satoshi's voice??? I totally had a different voice for him, in my mind, while reading the vn |
 "The sun is my enemy, but the moon has been good to me." |
| That swastika-guy though. :D |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Glad Shion's back. Now I understand why Satoko needed to stop behaving like a spoiled child. But damn Shion, even that's going tooooooooooo far with the beatings. I don't like Satoshi so much now. I hate him still. But I hope we learn more of Shion. Poor Shion. She was excommunicated since birth and now that someone finally acknowledges her, the same person goes on to ignore her. Looks like Shmion carved out the bodies of her granny and her sister. Might explain why she can take on different bodies. But the answer is still far. Anyways, I get that Satoko has had a rough childhood and she feels needy about her brother. I get it. But, she should have thought about how her brother was feeling and how it affects him, least a little bit. Rika is at least considerate given her young age, unlike Satoko. I had the same feeling as Shion when Satoko cried over spilled lunch. But Shion went way overboard. Way. I would be a little pissed off,maybe try to scold her, but I would certainly not wish her to die. I wouldn't even go far as trying to beat her. Guess all the characters in the series have a messed up mind of their own. |
JeremiahOrangeApr 7, 2018 6:26 PM
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| This story is so sad. I feel terrible for Satoshi and Satoko, poor siblings can't catch a damn break. Shion also might not have the easiest life but still that was a total bitch move by her to beat up Satoko like that. The people who are saying Satoko deserved the bullying for being a crybaby knowing that she's been abused all her life honestly disgust me. |
<Insert clever quote> |
| Now we finally see Satoshi. And I'm shooked when Shion threw Satoko o.o |
  ★━━─ 𝘏𝘰𝘸 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘵? 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘥𝘢𝘺? |
Ilasma said: Shion beating Satoko was utterly ridiculous. As in jumping the shark ridiculous. Almost made me drop the series. What did you find ridiculous about it? |
Ilasma said: The fact that Shion became so obsessed with Satoshi like in no time that she went with such a rage against his little sister; then the way characters are thrown in the air just like rag dolls; then the level of violence shown against an 8-10 yo (but not a single drop of blood), hitting her with books and ready to break her spine with a chair; and no one stopping her for quite a long time, nor - even worse - nobody going to call for an adult. And of course no adult being around, drawn by the scream and noise. There will always be plot conveniences in any TV show or film such as someone not being around or intervening when they would be more likely to do so in an equivalent real life scenario or cartoon physics, but as for the point about Shion's reasoning, all I'll say is that as much as 26 episodes of one season (the first season) and 24 episodes of another (Kai, the second season) sounds like a big ask in terms of commitment for modern viewers who are increasingly accustomed to the one cour shows of 12 or 13 episodes, it is very much a show where you have to watch through a substantial part of it before any of the reasoning behind characters' actions, behavior, and motivations makes any sense. That is not a story flaw but a crucial part of the story itself and a defining aspect of the Mystery genre. Mystery is arguably its defining and primary genre through both seasons. Higurashi wouldn't be half as compelling a mystery story if the characters' motives or cause for their actions were laid out up front. It isn't just random or left vague or unexplained throughout. The whole first season is set-up for the second and is basically a string of chaotic and brutal occurrences that ask you "Why?" without yet answering. That is its point. |
Ilasma said: I get what you mean and I do admit nowadays I am a bit scared of commit to long series, mostly because I want to see so many and I have very little time to do it. That said, if a story is a slow burner, I am happy to let it happen and to wait for it, but in the meanwhile it has to give me reasons to keep on watching, such as compelling characters or good art. So far this show has been quite underwhelming as far as I am concerned, but I don't want to give up at this point, so I will for sure finish this season, then might have a break from the horror and gore and see something a bit lighter, and finally try season 2 (Kai?). That said #2, yesterday I got to episode 19 and I appreciate the developments. Yes, I believe the first season of Higurashi pretty much immediately and comprehensively hits people, in general terms, in one of three distinct ways. There are those who instantly fall in love with the atmosphere and charm of this old-fashioned and quirky mysterious rural town, the characters' personalities and interpersonal dynamics, and yes even the art and animation of the more mid-2000s soft color palette and basic character designs that look unpolished, rough, and crude by today's standards (or even some standards of other studios back then). Then those who aren't really enamored with it, but feel intrigued enough by the premise to continue watching through it as a sort of chore to get to the answers behind the secrecy and "the good parts". Then those who hate some of the aforementioned aspects enough to say "Screw it" and drop it outright. I belong to the first camp and I think I loved it from the first minute of the first episode all the way through episode 50. The weakest part for me on a first watch and rewatch might be a little past the midway point of season 1 since it can seem a little repetitive for repetition's sake until you have more context and even rewatching those are still great (to me) but not among the best of the series. The final arc you're entering into in my view, the last 5-6 episodes of season one, are the best of the season and some of the best of the series, for various reasons. I believe shows function on two levels (well, probably countless levels, but just simplifying here). There is watching for the premise and plot and watching for the feel of the world and characters. Most people admit Higurashi has a pretty creative and interesting premise that spurs one on to watch more. But where there is more disagreement is over the latter - if you don't really care for the world/characters then I can see how watching is more frustrating or tedious. I hope you do eventually manage to get to Kai and at that time come back again and share your thoughts, because I notice that many people have only seen the first season. In some cases it's because they watched it when or close to when it first came out and there was buzz around the first season (probably proto-memes) about its carnage and bloody shock value (which is actually pretty tame compared to the breadth of horror cinema out there or even in anime, violent cyberpunk and action splatter OVAs of the 80s and 90s, but shocking for people who weren't used to seeing any form of murder or torture whatsoever in something animated). The second season isn't about that. Some didn't continue watching because they only watch English dubbed and the second season was never and probably never will be dubbed. And still others just didn't like the first season enough to continue and want to see a resolution. I will say this though - The second season is even better to me than the first season, it answers every single possible question or unresolved thread from the first including even minor trivialities, you might like the animation/designs a bit more in it as it looks sleeker and slightly more up-to-date, and although in no realm could it be classified as "light" entertainment as there is heavy subject matter and escalation of the conflict as characters' journey closer to its source, it really isn't a Horror like the first season if it's horror specifically you desire respite from. Both seasons are probably Mystery first, but while the first is very much Horror secondarily to that, the second is a Thriller. It isn't as concerned with mood-setting for scares or the psychological or body horror of the first, because every possible issue comes out in the open. Season two could be called many things beyond what it's usually labeled - even suspense, war, adventure, etc., but there is very little actual horror in it compared to S1 (something which disappointed hardline horror fans who only began watching Higurashi because it was a horror series and were disgruntled when it morphed into something else). Basically the only folks who think of the series as exclusively or even primarily a Horror are typically those who haven't seen past S1. |
WatchTillTandavaMar 20, 2020 11:22 AM
| Shion is so crazy... |
| To all those who think Shion is somehow justified in her assault of Satoko: You are wrong! Physically assaulting a child, especially to the level of throwing them around and throwing heavy objects at them, IS NEVER JUSTIFIED (unless for some abnormal reason the child is threatening your life.) A good beating does not help anyone grow a spine or magically become a responsible human being, especially when that person is an already abused child. Yes, Satoko's behavior is a little bit irritating, but she's a 9 year old kid who lost her parents two years ago and has been living in an abusive household since. She is exhibiting a behavior called learned helplessness as a result of her abuse, and needs to be removed from the abusive situation and placed in a loving environment supplemented by a period of counseling, not brutally beaten and told to put her act together. Honestly, it's surprising Satoko is able to appear as well adjusted as she does just a year from now when the initial events of the anime take place, especially considering she loses her last loving family member between now and then. That alone goes to show how strong she is as a person underneath the learned helplessness which she is currently suffering. Please, don't make light of the painful effects of child abuse, even when they manifest as annoying behaviors in the victim. Don't shame or blame the victim of abuse, save your righteous wrath for the abuser (though perhaps mellow it by understanding that many abusers were abused themselves and are in as much need of counseling and help as the abused.) |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| I didn't think that Satoshi would be a squeaker :o |
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guidodi said: WatchTillTandava said: There will always be plot conveniences in any TV show or film such as someone not being around or intervening when they would be more likely to do so in an equivalent real life scenario or cartoon physics, but as for the point about Shion's reasoning, all I'll say is that as much as 26 episodes of one season (the first season) and 24 episodes of another (Kai, the second season) sounds like a big ask in terms of commitment for modern viewers who are increasingly accustomed to the one cour shows of 12 or 13 episodes, it is very much a show where you have to watch through a substantial part of it before any of the reasoning behind characters' actions, behavior, and motivations makes any sense. That is not a story flaw but a crucial part of the story itself and a defining aspect of the Mystery genre. Mystery is arguably its defining and primary genre through both seasons. Higurashi wouldn't be half as compelling a mystery story if the characters' motives or cause for their actions were laid out up front. It isn't just random or left vague or unexplained throughout. The whole first season is set-up for the second and is basically a string of chaotic and brutal occurrences that ask you "Why?" without yet answering. That is its point. FINALLY someone who found this strange... I get what you are saying about things being explained in later episodes, but she met the guy one time for 15 seconds. Is this explained later on? The reason for such a strong obsession after a single pat on the head? Head pats will turn ANYONE into a fucked up yandere |
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| So this is the answer for Cotton Drifting Arc. Rena is back. Yey. I'm starting to get it now. "The footsteps follow you and it stands over your pillow and looks down at you at night" Geez. That gave me goosebump. |
RegulusXJun 25, 2020 9:14 PM
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| Really interesting episode, I loved that we finally get to see Satoshi. The way he pushed Shion when going to rescue Satoko was just perfect! Haha great episode!! |
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| i feel really bad for satoko and obviously naturally you would rely on your siblings when you're in need. it's ironic as that's what shion is doing to mion. mion is helping shion live in the village so shion needs to understand their relationship. |
| I hate how these arcs change everyone from one persona to another. |
| Shion completely lost it there, you never go full retard. We got another arc showing us the past, I'm still not sure where this show is heading to though. |
| It's great that Satoshi finally made an appearance. I don't know why but I didn't expect him to look like this, though. Shion's sudden rudeness really startled me. I was very shocked to see such a reaction from her. I never thought she would actually behave like this. |
| Holy shit chill Shion, why are you doing that??? 😠 |
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| Damn that was so uncomfortable to watch Shion take it out on Satoko, They look so miserable |
| --AbiSa-- |
| Okay. Finally having a time to binged watch this series. Its continuing Watanagashi arc, but from Shion pov? Learning how the actual shit Sonozaki family was back in the past. They were too much, they even didn't hesitated killing to satisfied themself. So, if i was not mistaken, the phrase of people that having a 'bad habit' from the previous episode, might be refer to these one and only cruel family, that upholding the whole village. Its became clear with the choronological issued that happen before. Mion even stated to had the same thought as Sonozaki descendant. All peoples that became their enemies must be got ridden from that mortal world. How sweet! So, thats why this one was so called an answering arc. Nice! Shion first love was Satoshi. His appearance kinda remembering me to Keiichi. Lol. Then, Shion already launched the curse to Kotoko and her aunt. Her behaviour towards Kotoko somehow was a bit too much! However, it seemed understandable by how Shion seen her as a burden that blocked Satoshi happiness. Shion imagined Kotoko in a wrong way, like how Kotoko's couldn't became like her? Independence, set a free, by herself? It couldn't be like that, girl. She and you had a massive differences over the fate. And its bring out the whole mass trouble for Keiichi in the future. Lmao! This is where everything was wrong. Shion cursed the wrong peoples. Its a fact that the reason behind the hate was their aunt, and the aunt problems? Its because of a persecutions came from Sonozaki family instructions. So, it came back to her family again, and became 'taste of your own medicine' plot, a demolishion of Sonozaki's family for once and forever. If only she realized that, and did the same wishes as Keiichi. This whole plot never happened. Lol. But, as i know from the previous event, Satoshi deflected the curse by getting the curse to himself. Then, kek, he dissappeared! However, what interesting on here, was a glimple scene at the very first second. The second and third arcs still unknown about where that thing happened on the chronological plot's order. Well, as a time being, it might be getting revealed too! Thats it for me. Its really entertaining me with a lot of their revelations. Its really good, everything became clear now, for fuck sake! Lets see next! |
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| Damn, I kinda miss Keiichi. With that opening to the episode, we can confirm I guess that Shion was the one that went crazy. This was a really interesting episode though, we getting some answers and we are gonna get more. Bruh, I didn't expect Shion to bully Satoko like that gaddamn I get that it can be annoying but, she's been through a lot of shit man c'mon. I think so far, Satoko is really the one that had it worse out of all of them. Holy fuck, Shion must be the one holding the ladder for Keiichi back then in Watanagashi-hen. Would explain why she got mad back then, because of her hatred for Satoko. |
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| Shion fell in love with Satoshi awfully quick lol. Her hatred for Satoko was so misguided lol, she should be directing that hated towards Satoshi's aunt and uncle. |
| so... why did the one biker dude have n*zi hair... wtf? that’s so uncomfortable |
| Damn Shion, calm down, I know Satoko crying and whining can be annoying but throwing her like that... |
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