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Dec 27, 2016 4:55 AM

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autisticanime said:
So, what was the deal with Issei and Rias memory loss after the beach scene? Did they lose their memory or were just pretending?

Maybe it's because I didn't read the LN's but I didn't find it that bad. Does it feel rushed and have some issues in explaining things? Yes. However, I didn't find the original anime stuff too offensive and otherwise it's the same DxD I've come to expect.

6/10.


The memory is gone so thank fuck since that would destroy the meaning of a scene later in the story.
 
Dec 27, 2016 4:57 AM

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But why did it happen? I feel like I missed something.
 
Dec 28, 2016 1:15 AM

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But why did it happen? I feel like I missed something.


Because the writers for the anime realized how much they fucked up so they had to make a last ditch effort to sweep it under the rug
 
Dec 28, 2016 5:56 PM

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autisticanime said:
But why did it happen? I feel like I missed something.


Because it trashes on several scenes found in volume 10 of the light novels. Volumes 9 and 10 are most likely to be adapted for season 4 of the anime, hence the memory loss to keep it preserved.
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Jan 5, 2017 6:42 AM

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nostalgia kicked in for first couple eps then it quickly died down

major let down character and battle wise this is not the dxd i came to love

only good thing to come from this season is this gurl



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Feb 4, 2017 9:51 PM

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Anticlimactic from the last 2 eps, as an anime only viewer it's okay.

7/10
 
Feb 13, 2017 11:13 AM

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Strange that Rias said she doesn't want to keep him for herself and such thought never even crossed her mind yet she always cockblocks Akeno and fights with her and always stresses that he belongs to her

so Asia is his sister now? incest is wincest XD

I didn't expect Rossweisse to become the second rook at all, not that I thought about it or anything, I was just surprised, they had two knights, two bishops and Koneko was single and Rossweisse was the only possible variant (Kuroka would be great second rook, two hot sisters in his harem eh...)
however it's interesting that one rook is the team loli and second rook is the team MILF lol
She's awesome, I love her <3 If only I could pick the best girl I would pick her but I can't and she's one of my favorites among Koneko, Akeno, Xenovia, Irina, Kuroka and Ravel, I'm sorry girl but I can't, I'm so Issei :(

that feel when your hot teacher is in your harem rolleyes

Issei song just lol

I loved how his harem supported him and everyone else looked disgusted and annoyed by this fact, does anyone even realize that entire school still dislikes Issei, and only his harem likes him XD
Akeno onee-sama why?! XDDD
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Aug 11, 2017 12:05 PM

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Well sadly the series is now over but fortunately there will be a season 4 :)

I really love the whole family/friend theme. At first i thought HDxD was just meant as a "Joke" because it was mostly about boobs. It went really deep thats why im very impressed with the outcome.

About the whole Anime:

Story - 7/10.

There could've been more but im okay with it.

Charakter - 9/10

They went quite deep with every important character. I dont really care if Rossweise wasn't seen enough on screen. She isn't a main character so she doesn't need more screen time. Nevertheless, everyone had a deep backstory therefore i will give it a 9/10

Sound/Art - 10/10

The characters where really beautiful and well developed. Battle scenes had much action and the animation of BOOOBS was of course fantastic. They'Ve visited very creative places which where drawn very well.


Overall Enjoyment - 9/10

Sometimes they went a bit too much boobs in my opinion. (There was a very emotional scene where Koneko was crying while attacking an enemy, but when she jumped towards him, the camera was focused on her panties).


Final Rating - 9/10



 
Oct 21, 2017 12:53 PM

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What did Issei say on the shore? The part we couldn't hear?
 
Mar 4, 2018 8:03 AM

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Definitely an extreme disappointment, everything was worse than the previous seasons, at least those were somewhat coherent and fun

Story was a trainwreck, everyone was pretty much the same, and that art, god, what a downgrade
It didn't even have enough fanservice which is why people watch this in first place

The good thing about was the introduction of other mythologies

6/10
 
Mar 24, 2018 10:51 PM

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When this 1st aired was mostly Ok with season tough this ending was Disgrace........but now.....when I had time to think....No Rating Game, no explanations. Stupid Original Anime plot, LN plot competently ignored and deviated...yeah....give this complete rating 6 for entire Season last 3 episodes. ...and that Is merciful....was seriously thinking giving it only 3 or 4.....

I don't care if Ishibumi made Special LN that explains why this turned this Shitty...last 3 episodes were complete Bull
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Mar 24, 2018 10:53 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
autisticanime said:
But why did it happen? I feel like I missed something.


Because the writers for the anime realized how much they fucked up so they had to make a last ditch effort to sweep it under the rug


APPLAUSE! We Can only hope so...

now just pray that They don't screw Season 4
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May 1, 2018 8:46 AM

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Very nice last episode....
1.Issei saved Rias and he got the first "love kiss" of this anime series!
2.Rias has a new member in his "family", a tower, The ValKirie Rosswise!
3.Isseis become a hero in Hell TV! lol


Hello, my litte boy!


 
May 10, 2018 5:46 AM
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Well, nothing was ever going to come of the Rias and Issei bout, Issei wouldn’t hurt his S&M Master. The inner drama that Loki pulled to the surface was Rias’ doubt about whether or not Issei liked her as much as the rest of his harem members. She’s pretty clingy; sometimes we think of worst case scenarios as it is more exciting for the mind to wander. She’s not self-assured as a princess of the Underworld.

Rias won’t get mad at Issei anymore because on a subconscious level, her soul remembers the conversation they had on the beach after their fight. The subconscious memory of that seemed to quell her self-doubt, and jealously for the time being. She will let him have his harem, because that’s his dream. She would never harm her precious Issei.

However, a salient point to be addressed is her lack of communication. As the king, the leader, the princess of the underworld, she is supposed to get her message across by communicating the importance of every action during a game, a meeting, or a formal gathering... Yet, when it comes to addressing the topic of Issei being less formal around her, it takes a gigantic cliché among clichés, then Issei mentioning that something was bothering her to motivate her communication. Très high school, oh wait... Issei should just be king, he’s a straight arrow, likes to talk from the heart. Heck even his parents told the random priest girl that she is their kid.

Even though the fight was essentially fodder, I enjoyed a most of it, had they let her waste one of the party members, it would have been even better. I didn’t like the Rias turning on everyone without a consequence, I could foreshadow her snapping from her jealousy, but the result was inconsequential, and rendered the whole fight into a lovers’ quibble. I wouldn’t call it a quarrel because it was one-sided with Issei remembering Rias like he was at her wake or something.

Then came the replication of Issei’s doubt in the form of a doppelgänger. This scene was symbolic in that it showed Issei conquering his doubt after the self-assuredness of having Asia being cared for by his friends and having been saved by his counterpart, and Issei having saved Rias himself. Remember, our doubt is given more power over us when there is no self-assurance.
The logic being that if he had either not saved Rias from herself in time, or had Asia perished, I doubt he would have been able to dispense of the doubting Dave as swiftly as he did. Remember the doppelgänger is just a copy of Issei’s doubt during the Loki battle, before things settled down, and he was happy again for a brief moment. He did not have doubt any lingering doubt the moment he saved Rias, and thus starved the copy of his former feeling from powering up, or conquering him with his fear of not being able to save anyone.

Had the copy of doubt attacked Issei while he was trying to tame the crimson flame, things might have turned out a bit different.

As for how he one-shot the replicant. This can be explained by the fact that he either starved it from negative thoughts that it usually feeds on, or he got a Zenkai boost from a near death experience. C’mon there’s a ‘hell’ of a lot of Dragon Ball references in this series. The third option is obviously time constraints and/or shitty writing but I don’t wanna believe it.

I’m pretty sure Rias’ brother could have knocked the ball out of the field, but it was best for Issei to develop his skills anyhow. After all the buildup and spoilers regarding the Oppai song, I was fairly disappointed with how it was introduced. They should have had Issei on the front of a cereal box with cereal shaped as いっぱいおっぱい、standing with the kids like Tony the Tiger in his LimitBreaker suit.

Negative:

Listen, the action sequences need more animated frames, usually when the camera pans over, somebody has already kicked the baddies and it shows for half a second and then you see them flying across the room, sometimes the baddies are already flying with no contact. I have to pause the damn video and go back to see if I’ve missed anything.

The fast paced fighting needs more frames.

Other than that, the show is great, looking forward to watching many more seasons of awesome sauce!

9/10
 
May 10, 2018 5:48 AM

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KazeNoHimitsu said:
WALL OF TEXT REVIEW HERE


You wasted your time. All of the episodes since the method to stop Juggernaut Drive are non canon and have been retconned out of existence in the current ongoing season. Rather aggressively and decisively at that
 
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[quote=Darklight0303]
KazeNoHimitsu said:
WALL OF TEXT REVIEW HERE


Darklight0303 said:
KazeNoHimitsu said:
WALL OF TEXT REVIEW HERE


You wasted your time. All of the episodes since the method to stop Juggernaut Drive are non canon and have been retconned out of existence in the current ongoing season. Rather aggressively and decisively at that


OMG xD xD
Exciting! I can’t wait to watch the new season, in which case I imagine it’s close to the LN the members of our forum have been hyping up to epic proportions.

Darkness of the land ! What the hell did they change studios? The animation is terrible for DXD hero. It hurts to watch. #despair
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May 12, 2018 1:36 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
KazeNoHimitsu said:
WALL OF TEXT REVIEW HERE


Darklight0303 said:


You wasted your time. All of the episodes since the method to stop Juggernaut Drive are non canon and have been retconned out of existence in the current ongoing season. Rather aggressively and decisively at that


OMG xD xD
Exciting! I can’t wait to watch the new season, in which case I imagine it’s close to the LN the members of our forum have been hyping up to epic proportions.

Darkness of the land ! What the hell did they change studios? The animation is terrible for DXD hero. It hurts to watch. #despair


Of course they changed the studio after the raping that TNK did in BORN
 
May 21, 2018 10:58 AM
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The enemies were coming out of the woodworks this season. They were literally showing up at random, coming and going with little explanation as to why. Because of this, I found the plot chaotic this season. If it weren't for the harem/ ecchi and fan service I probably would've dropped this show.

I understood why most of Rias servants/ crew joined her. I don't get why Rossweisse joins her so easily, Rias is now your master and your her servant. Like don't Rossweisse know if she ever tried to leave Rias peerage, Rias would have her killed.

I need to just enjoy the ride and don't focus too much on the plot. I give High School DxD Born a very generous 7/10.
 
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Rias would never kill anyone in her peerage. Are you insane?
 
Apr 3, 3:00 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
autisticanime said:
So, what was the deal with Issei and Rias memory loss after the beach scene? Did they lose their memory or were just pretending?

Maybe it's because I didn't read the LN's but I didn't find it that bad. Does it feel rushed and have some issues in explaining things? Yes. However, I didn't find the original anime stuff too offensive and otherwise it's the same DxD I've come to expect.

6/10.


The memory is gone so thank fuck since that would destroy the meaning of a scene later in the story.


I don't know what happens later on but in the context of a pure anime viewer this "memory loss" garbage just pisses me off. Finally some character development and then its just pissed away by the two forgetting. Now I have to deal with Issei who cares so much for the girl he loves that he calls her "President". Whole thing pisses me off.

If it interferes with something later down the storyline then it shouldn't have been included at all. As it is it just feels like a cheap way to stretch even further this annoying trope of never advancing a relationship.

Was going to give season a 6 but dropping to 5 for this teeth grinding stupidity.
 
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Darklight0303 said:


The memory is gone so thank fuck since that would destroy the meaning of a scene later in the story.


I don't know what happens later on but in the context of a pure anime viewer this "memory loss" garbage just pisses me off. Finally some character development and then its just pissed away by the two forgetting. Now I have to deal with Issei who cares so much for the girl he loves that he calls her "President". Whole thing pisses me off.

If it interferes with something later down the storyline then it shouldn't have been included at all. As it is it just feels like a cheap way to stretch even further this annoying trope of never advancing a relationship.

Was going to give season a 6 but dropping to 5 for this teeth grinding stupidity.


It was anime original trash that was confirmed to be nothing more than the director's ego
 
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Darklight0303 said:
gswelcome said:


I don't know what happens later on but in the context of a pure anime viewer this "memory loss" garbage just pisses me off. Finally some character development and then its just pissed away by the two forgetting. Now I have to deal with Issei who cares so much for the girl he loves that he calls her "President". Whole thing pisses me off.

If it interferes with something later down the storyline then it shouldn't have been included at all. As it is it just feels like a cheap way to stretch even further this annoying trope of never advancing a relationship.

Was going to give season a 6 but dropping to 5 for this teeth grinding stupidity.


It was anime original trash that was confirmed to be nothing more than the director's ego


Wanted something that looked good even if completely pointless and goes against the story, sounds like a director...
 
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The Oppai Dragon Song is my new jam! XD Overall, this season was a lot more mature and exciting, even trough i had doubts about it that this season will top the previous, sence that season had more searious moments. I also liked that we've got more info about the Girls, especially Akeno and Koneko, but we've also got to see Rias-sama's other side.
 
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This season was okay. The plot felt rushed and all over the place and not a lot of laughs this time around.
 
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