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Jun 20, 2015 1:19 PM

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therandomestguy said:
mira-nyan said:


To his superiors? He's just a Lieutenant Colonel, you know. :P

And it bothers me because he's writing in English to what should be Japanese people.




You said that as a question as though it's obvious that he's reporting to his superiors, then you say the thing you said about writing in English. Isn't it a likely conclusion drawn from that that he's writing to people who speak only English? Wouldn't that be a reason to assume he's not writing to his superiors? I'm sorry about this but could you explain?


Sorry, I meant it as a literal question.

Right now my brain is filled with multiple hypothesis' and scenarios, lol.
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Jun 20, 2015 1:27 PM

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Great episode, beginning with Shinoa trying to discover the truth of Guren, I really do not like Guren, always trying munipular everyone around him and still have a bad personality

I liked the interaction between Shinoa and Yuu, actually all squad seemed to approach, but feel that Yuu's personality begins to soften now, I want to see he with thirst for revenge against the vampires

The anime wowed me enough in some episodes and others maintained a more leisurely pace, but it was a good adaptation and took well the plot, the soundtrack was also very good and the animation style combined with history

The next season is coming and I hopefully an even better adaptation than this season, well, I think this anime was among the best of the season ..
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:29 PM

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You know what? I liked this ending. I think it was pretty well-done.

Okay so overall, I definitely wouldn't say this is a GREAT adaptation of the manga. The manga is several times more enjoyable. For example, fight scenes are way better and whatever talking there is while they're fighting actually happens WHILE they're fighting. The vampires are not considerately waiting for them to finish their conversations, so it's way more realistic.

Animation wasn't great to say the least. At some parts it was just bad. Even if important stuff was going on, the animation somehow made everything feel slow. HOWEVER there were also parts where the art was quite nice. The background stills could be nice as well. I prefer the manga art myself, but whatever.

I'm the kind of fan who really dislikes any of kind of fillers, and some of the fillers they put in were just senseless. Very obviously just trying to waste some time. The filler stuff in episode 11 wasn't as bad though.

All that being said, I didn't hate this adaptation. As I mentioned earlier, the art was alright overall. I also liked the voice acting (Sakurai was awesome as Ferid!). Even though were some fillers, they stuck pretty true to the story. Also, I loved the soundtrack!

Originally I probably would have given this 6/10, but I feel that episodes 11 and 12 redeemed the anime for me so I give it a 7/10. I'll definitely be watching the second season this October ^-^

P.s. Are there two light novel series or something? Or is the prologue series about Guren the only one?
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:33 PM

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mira-nyan said:
therandomestguy said:


You said that as a question as though it's obvious that he's reporting to his superiors, then you say the thing you said about writing in English. Isn't it a likely conclusion drawn from that that he's writing to people who speak only English? Wouldn't that be a reason to assume he's not writing to his superiors? I'm sorry about this but could you explain?


Sorry, I meant it as a literal question.

Right now my brain is filled with multiple hypothesis' and scenarios, lol.


Haha okay. Thanks for your replies.
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:33 PM

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Eh, from my previous posts it's probably obvious that I did not like the show one bit. Cannot believe a show can be this uninspired and uncreative, the author really tried hard with this. 3/10
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:34 PM

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I'm quite pleased with how this cour ended tbh. Overall I guess I started to get a little attached to Shinoa's team. More importantly though, I'm dying to know who Bathory's working with and know more about the guy in general. To me at least, he's like the most interesting and entertaining character on the vampire side and I'm hoping that when and if(we'd better...) learn more about the vamps, it'll be through him. Dying to know who's his human partner. I wonder if it's Guren...
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:39 PM

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Well, at least it was entertaining. Not as bad as I thought.
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:43 PM

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P.s. Are there two light novel series or something? Or is the prologue series about Guren the only one?


The LN has 5 volumes. All of it is about Guren.
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Jun 20, 2015 1:43 PM

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Well it's definitely a great ending to this show , That makes second season so hard to predict unlike those horror-gore anime that people expected this show to be . I gotta say it's rare to see anime where humans and Vampires are more in gray zone than good and evil . 9/10 in good faith , I hope second season will keep the tone of the anime , while still keeping story fresh
 
Jun 20, 2015 1:48 PM

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Shinoa. Shinoa, and Shinoa is the thing I liked the most about this anime.

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Jun 20, 2015 1:58 PM

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So, they got a Vampire research lab.

Shinoa is developing feelings for Yuu.
 
Jun 20, 2015 2:16 PM

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October 2015, seems quite soon. Good.
 
Jun 20, 2015 2:36 PM
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Exterria said:
Ferid was talking with someone in the end. Is it guren or somebody that isn't a vampire or from the military. Decent ending 4/5.
I'll give this season a 8/10
Can't wait for Fall!

Same here even if i read it already i loved watching things in anime form. I feel that it was guren due to 'research data'.
 
Jun 20, 2015 2:38 PM

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Exterria said:
Ferid was talking with someone in the end. Is it guren or somebody that isn't a vampire or from the military. Decent ending 4/5.
I'll give this season a 8/10
Can't wait for Fall!

Same here even if i read it already i loved watching things in anime form. I feel that it was guren due to 'research data'.


This is exactly the info that I think they might be exchanging^
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Jun 20, 2015 2:39 PM

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This turned out to be more bland than I expected. Overall, it wasn't bad and I did like a few of the interactions between characters (mostly between the pink haired guy and Yu), but other than that and the particular art style I can't think of one good thing about this anime. 5/10
Will watch the second cour if there's not much to watch in the fall season.
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Jun 20, 2015 2:59 PM

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Episode was alright.

5/10 for the season. Will watch the second tho.
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Jun 20, 2015 3:01 PM

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Tension was bad
Action was bad
Characters were bad
Music was...forgettable. Sawano needs to step his game up.

There was no passion to this. Just 12 week cliche spill. So a 3/10 it is.
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:03 PM

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4/10 - bad animation/art, forgettable soundtrack, unlikable characters, bad action scenes.. meh
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:10 PM

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I'm gonna miss this ED when the second part starts apart from that the only good part in this episode was the Jazz that randomly started playing out of nowhere.
    
   
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:17 PM

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Nice and fitting ending. Looking forward to season 2. Hope Sawano Hiroyuki is in charge of the OST for season 2 because I need a good OST like season 1 ;v;
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:17 PM

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Was a good episode.

Probably the best of the twelve.
The most ambient and real use of the animation and art rather than the screaming temee naru-sasu shonen clones all throughout the cour.

i.e. actual substance
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:29 PM

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That was a boring ending. I mean yeah Shinoa Hiiragi's cute side is worth mentioning but that was just it. I know that they will have a second season but there are better ways to make this season finale worth looking forward to.
 
Jun 20, 2015 3:47 PM

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Finally this series gets a little more depth, which it desperately needed in my opinion. It still could use more depth, but at least it doesn't look quite as shallow anymore.

Since it had a slow, cheesy start and godawful backgrounds and animation, I think I'll give it a 6/10. Maybe I would have given it a 7 if it actually looked good, too bad that's not the case. Overall, the characters look cool, but the rest... more often than not, I'd say it was cringeworthy.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:03 PM

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Alright ending, there's a second season which is good, it's just starting.
7.75/10
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:14 PM
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Nice calm episode. Man I really wanted to watch the battle... Everyone is save and can't believe that yu had a ima for a week. Shinoa x yu moments as well :3

Looking forward to season 2
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Jun 20, 2015 4:16 PM

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People will never be satisfied //sigh

Great, smooth ending.
I really liked the little jazz and then I realized it was Guren's... meh. I'm still in a love/hate relationship with Guren. It started from the lab scene in the manga and the adaptation didn't make it any better...

Though, I really like Felid and his plans scare me. I don't want him to fuck things up. I kind of want a plottwist around him, but for good matters.

Anyway I also need to say that Yuu's voice actor just won a fan. The hospital room scene with everyone in it was really cute, but somehow Yuu's voice made it a lot better, it had some kind of great emotions in it. Also lolol for Shinoa and Blondie getting pushed on the floor. Best part.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:16 PM

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My thoughts thus far:

Guren's scum
Shinoa's a liar
Mitsuba's still annoying as fuck.
Yu better not believe that bull Shinoa fed him or he's seriously too gullible and dumb.

I want more Mika. But no seriously these two talking shit about saving the other. The only thing the two need to do is go off together and then they'll both be "saved" no theatrics please.

Here's some guesswork: Freid was talking to Guren at the end. (and if not some other higher up dude from the military--yawn).

Why the hell do i have to wait for season 2? Ugh i hate when that happens, just run the full 24 in one go.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:18 PM

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I didn't expect much - it was quite predictable.

6/10
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:19 PM

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I liked this episode. It was overall very calming and relaxing in my opinion. I think that they couldn't end this season any better. As cliched as this anime has been at some parts, I'm definitely looking forward to the next season.

It looks to be quite obvious who the ''traitor'' is though it apparently hasn't been revealed in the Manga either. I think that we can safely assume that it's Guren though.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:41 PM

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Pretty good episode considering the BS that was the entire season.

They only took a sip, huh? Really?

Nothing much here other than we learn about some of the shady experimentation the humans are doing. Leaving these details at the last episode makes the conclusion of the season open-ended. I don't care if we see more on "2015/10", I wanted closure now and I'm not sure if I even want to see more of this painfully average shounen anyways.

5.5/10, really stretching it to give the season a 6.
Why do people have such bad taste? Anime isn't subjective anymore.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:49 PM

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Managed to end on a surprisingly good note for a split cour anime, although the overall quality of this show seems to be continuously going up and down.

I really wish anime would stop throwing love interests in purely for the sake of having love interests. Okay, so Shinoa now has feelings for Yu, how about you give me three examples as to when and why those feelings actually started coming about? I've got nothing against romance, but people need to start actually putting a little thought and effort into it rather than just passing out love markers like gift bags at an Oprah show.
 
Jun 20, 2015 4:57 PM

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Gotta love all the hate comments and nitpickers concidering this series.

Personally I loved every aspect of it. The interactions, the characters getting some depth to them, the progression. And especially the Opening and Ending. Beautiful. Seeing how Yuu lights up when realizing that Mika is alive out my heart at ease, and this last episode put a great end to this season. I can't wait for October to come, I'll be looking forward to it so much I can barely wait!
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Jun 20, 2015 4:59 PM
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No one's asking the real questions though... what the hell was that jazz song at the end? It was so good, it felt so out of place too. Is there a name for it?
 
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All else considered, the mid-way break was put at a fitting place, just after Yuu's first Seraph release and just before the next issues from the story start cropping up.

Would have preferred that they added a bit more intrigue by introducing more on the rest of Shinoa's family before the interlude though, because the politicking always lets us see more interesting perspectives from both sides. I'm rather disappointed they put stills when Mika went to talk with Tepes, since we don't get much from her perspective.

Been preaching patience throughout the entire show, but now I realize that there are just those who don't like anything other than insta-gratifying Michael Bay-esque action all over the place and quick solutions to every problem. To them, I say good-riddance. Don't come back for second cour if you want insta-closure, insta-action, or insta-anything because you're sure to be disappointed as well. Only those with patience will be rewarded for the story this show sets up to tell.

Overall, aside for Animation issues, the story flowed just like the manga, hence I'm pretty excited for whats to come.

See you guys again in October.
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Jun 20, 2015 5:38 PM

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4/5 of the Shinoa squad are tsunderes...
Lame characters overall, generic plot, meh fight scenes, could be better.

 
Jun 20, 2015 5:44 PM

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Overall a pretty faithful adaptation aside from fillers and changes that didn't really distract from the story. This would get a 9 from me if not for the lack of experience on the staff side shown by the misplaced bgms, wrong tone and mishandled-everything in most scenes.
It could've been done a lot better but I'm okay with this.

Of course, see you all again in October for the 2nd cour. :)

8/10

 
Jun 20, 2015 6:12 PM

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For a show about humans using demon weapons to fight vampires this really sucked. 4/10 for me. Didn't like the storyline and I hated the characters. Definitely won't be watching season 2.
 
Jun 20, 2015 6:16 PM

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My God, Yuu was so damn cute in this episode that I CAN'T STAND IT!!


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Shinoa X Yuu scene was nice, until the blonde tsundere appeared and ruined the mood. Hell, even Kimizuki is a better tsundere than Mitsuba.


HAHAHA THAT'S THE TRUTH. XD
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Jun 20, 2015 6:18 PM

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Will be watching season 2 for more Shinoa x Yuu! I really hope this doesn't end up being yaoi.

I hope Guren dies next season! I'm preferring the vampire side more than the human side at this point (excluding Yuu, Shinoa, and company).
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Jun 20, 2015 6:22 PM

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Will be watching season 2 for more Shinoa x Yuu! I really hope this doesn't end up being yaoi.

I hope Guren dies next season! I'm preferring the vampire side more than the human side at this point (excluding Yuu, Shinoa, and company).


Well be also prepared for more MikaxYuu moments. The author has some talent when it comes to writing some romance between guys. I think he should consider going into that business.
 
Jun 20, 2015 6:25 PM

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The author has some talent when it comes to writing strong bonds between guys.


There, fixed for you. :p



 
Jun 20, 2015 6:26 PM

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Great ending to a show that gets way too much hate
10/10
 
Jun 20, 2015 6:36 PM

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Chiibi said:
Shion657 said:
The author has some talent when it comes to writing strong bonds between guys.


There, fixed for you. :p


XD No I clearly meant romance. -sigh- so many homophobic people on myanimelist

I will always ship my MikaxYuu. MikaYuu is life

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Jun 20, 2015 6:38 PM
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Meh, alright conclusion to this first season. The series had a lot of ups and downs for me. Still decently enjoyable in the end and what happened at the end does intrigue me. I'll check out the second season for sure.
 
Jun 20, 2015 6:57 PM

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Calm before the storm ending
 
Jun 20, 2015 7:04 PM

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Tension was bad
Action was bad
Characters were bad
Music was...forgettable. Sawano needs to step his game up.

There was no passion to this. Just 12 week cliche spill. So a 3/10 it is.
sawano has lost his touch after unicorn ost all his music feel the same for me...
atleast the xenoblade ost still good thou
 
Jun 20, 2015 7:09 PM

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Shion657 said:
-sigh- so many homophobic people on myanimelist


I'm NOT. I just told you I have yaoi OTPs. I even have a couple yuri ones.

I just don't see MikaYuu as more than a strong brotherly bond....there's really nothing to indicate that they go doki-doki over each other..........until proven otherwise, I'll continue to say that.

Okay, so Shinoa now has feelings for Yu, how about you give me three examples as to when and why those feelings actually started coming about? I've got nothing against romance, but people need to start actually putting a little thought and effort into it rather than just passing out love markers like gift bags at an Oprah show.


Oh yeah, TOTALLY unpredictable....would you believe it took me as long as thirty seconds since their first conversation that Shinoa was going to have a thing for him.....wow....

You want three examples though, eh? Okay.....

*She teases him. A LOT. Shinoa does tease everyone but she teases Yuu the most. Why?

*She told him he looked good in his uniform.

*She seemed happy when she thanked him for saving her life. "You really do care about your friends." and she smiles pleasantly.

*According to Guren, she hides her more serious side but when it comes to Yuu's safety, she gets pretty upset. That's why he mocked her for it.

.....oops, that was four. My bad. lol
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Jun 20, 2015 7:24 PM

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Shion657 said:
-sigh- so many homophobic people on myanimelist


I'm NOT. I just told you I have yaoi OTPs. I even have a couple yuri ones.

I just don't see MikaYuu as more than a strong brotherly bond....there's really nothing to indicate that they go doki-doki over each other..........until proven otherwise, I'll continue to say that.

Huh u didn't tell me u had yaoi OTPs I think u were talking to someone else,but somehow I doubt that. I can totally see the romance there between Mika and Yuu and YuuNoa feels forced hopefully it will remain a one side crush.
 
Jun 20, 2015 7:26 PM

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5 or 6/10 for the first half guess ill just read manga to see if this gets remotely good.


but that's hella Garen at the end seems like something he would do.
 
Jun 20, 2015 7:33 PM
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"Meh" Episode, I guess they needed this episode though, after all the fighting that just went down, but it just felt kinda off, with that cliffhanger at the end of last week, I expected at least a little action before they cut to the laboratory/hospital scenes... Idk thats just how I felt.

I hope they have less still pictures during the action scenes next season, that REALLY bothered me a lot, I hope they did that to save some budget for the animation in the second half...
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