| Kotarō Hayama |
| Makoto Hanamiya or Kotaro |
| Kagami Haizaki Himuro ---------- Then the Uncrowned Kings. |
| I can agree with all but Nijimura. You were right to leave off Kagami and Haizaki along with the GoM. The difference of skill is way too high. I'd say Himuro is the best, followed closely by Hanamiya and Mibuchi are close behind. |
| Kagami for sure? Kagami is not part of the generation of miracles right? |
| Obviously Kagami, lol. Now if we're excluding Kagami because he's as good as if not better than the Generation of Miracles (as you mentioned) then probably Shinji Koganei. |
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| Toss up between Himuro and Uncrowned King IMO.. Just want to know your opinion.. Do you guys think that himuro is actually above uncrowned king? Since it's mention several times that he's near GoM level and i don't think uncrowned king is "near" GoM level.. |
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Izanagi777 said: Toss up between Himuro and Uncrowned King IMO.. Just want to know your opinion.. Do you guys think that himuro is actually above uncrowned king? Since it's mention several times that he's near GoM level and i don't think uncrowned king is "near" GoM level.. I think he is better. He has a skill that is really hard to defend, between the mirage shot and his fakes. The Uncrowned Kings are really good, but it just seems like Himuro is on another level just below the GoM. |
Izanagi777 said: It's a tough call because the running comment about the Kings is that had they been born years before theyd of been called Miracles. I'd say without a doubt that Himuro is the best player not given the title of Miracle or King, excluding Kagami of course.Toss up between Himuro and Uncrowned King IMO.. Just want to know your opinion.. Do you guys think that himuro is actually above uncrowned king? Since it's mention several times that he's near GoM level and i don't think uncrowned king is "near" GoM level.. |
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MrPositron said: Yeah.. I also feel the same tbh.. Since he can give a hard time to even kagami.. How do you compare between him and haizaki then? Which one is better in your opinion?I think he is better. He has a skill that is really hard to defend, between the mirage shot and his fakes. The Uncrowned Kings are really good, but it just seems like Himuro is on another level just below the GoM. ibear said: Yeah.. but i think maybe he's better due to fact that he can give kagami a hard time.. Then again, hayama also capable to do that in serin vs rakuzan match (although i always see him and mibuchi as the strongest Uncrowned King). It's a though call nevertheless..It's a thought call because the running comment about the Kings is that had they been born years before theyd of been called Miracles. I'd say without a doubt that Himuro is the best player not given the title of Miracle or King, excluding Kagami of course. |
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| [quote=Izanagi777] MrPositron said: Yeah.. I also feel the same tbh.. Since he can give a hard time to even kagami.. How do you compare between him and haizaki then? Which one is better in your opinion?I think he is better. He has a skill that is really hard to defend, between the mirage shot and his fakes. The Uncrowned Kings are really good, but it just seems like Himuro is on another level just below the GoM. In my mind, Haizaki is better than Himuro by a mile. Haizaki and Kagami are rightfully excluded from his rankings because they're so good, and they are basically GoM caliber players in every way except name. Plus I think Himuro would fall prey to Haizaki's specific skill set very easily since he depends on his pure shooting form to do the mirage shot and his fakes. Don't get me wrong. Himuro and the Uncrowned Kings are fantastic, but Kagami, Haizaki, and the GoM (and throw in Kuroko since he's such a unique anomaly of a player) are just ridiculous by comparison. |
MrPositron said: Haha.. Yeah.. I also agree with you.. Just wanna know your opinion :PIn my mind, Haizaki is better than Himuro by a mile. Haizaki and Kagami are rightfully excluded from his rankings because they're so good, and they are basically GoM caliber players in every way except name. Plus I think Himuro would fall prey to Haizaki's specific skill set very easily since he depends on his pure shooting form to do the mirage shot and his fakes. Don't get me wrong. Himuro and the Uncrowned Kings are fantastic, but Kagami, Haizaki, and the GoM (and throw in Kuroko since he's such a unique anomaly of a player) are just ridiculous by comparison. Haizaki did beat normal kise which make him a GoM level player IMO, although maybe he's the weakest ones if we compare to other GoM level players.. |
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LazyRonin said: Kagami Haizaki Himuro ---------- Then the Uncrowned Kings. This pretty much. Kagami being GOM-level, of course. |
Choco22 said: For me the Ranking is: (BTW this ranking is evaluating just individual skills so Kuroko is not here because alone he can´t do a thing) TOP 10: 1ºAkashi 2ºAomine 3ºKise 4ºKagami*** 5º Murasakibara 6º Midorima *** without the zone Kagami (in my opinion) can´t defeat Aomine or Kise (after this one start using Perfect Copy) and Kagami can only use his zone ´cause of his team mates Now..non GOM or Kagami; 7º Haizaki...they said he cant copy the GOM but i believe that he can copy all the rest...even the U.Kings or Himuro; 8º Hayama 9º Mibuchi 10º Himuro (between this last 2 im not really sure...an one and one between them would be cool because i dont think that neither one can block the other) The others U.Kings..Hanamiya,Teppei and Nebuya are strong but in my opinion, by themselves they´re not better that any one of the others (from TOP10) *** Teppei if not injured who knows .... Aomine crushes Akashi all day every day :^) Akashi's just some 5'8'' midget who can predict the future |
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Choco22 said: For me the Ranking is: (BTW this ranking is evaluating just individual skills so Kuroko is not here because alone he can´t do a thing) TOP 10: 1ºAkashi 2ºAomine 3ºKise 4ºKagami*** 5º Murasakibara 6º Midorima *** without the zone Kagami (in my opinion) can´t defeat Aomine or Kise (after this one start using Perfect Copy) and Kagami can only use his zone ´cause of his team mates . Kise > Aomine easily. Aomine has no has chance against perfect copy without entertaining the zone. |
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| Kise's perfect copy lasts 2 minutes. He's absolute bench-material. Aomine hasn't ever truly practiced since probably Teiko and he's still able to maintain his skills this much. Give him like a month to practice and he'll stomp everyone. Make that one month a year and he can probably start ankle-breaking Akashi. Remember, Aomine was the first to "bloom" among the GoM. Akashi just has a BS ability. Kise is a Kakashi-wannabe Murasakibara's just tall. The truly skilled players are Aomine and Midorima. |
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Tobinami said: Kagami |
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BeomSik said: Obviously Kagami, lol. Now if we're excluding Kagami because he's as good as if not better than the Generation of Miracles (as you mentioned) then probably Shinji Koganei. I love you |
| Ruka desu. |
| Lol I reckon Fujimaki left the matchups incomplete, or without enough information for us to make a concrete, absolute judgement on purpose, so that we can debate this. That being said, it really is hard to say who would beat who in an ideal situation where everyone has practised equally. But should we even take such a situation into account? Is there an end to such a discussion? It's all debatable. BeomSik said: Obviously Shinji Koganei, lol Then again, apparently not. (Ftfy ;P) |
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