| Yearly Circulation 2005-2009 Yearly Circulation 2010-2014 Series Sales 2010 Source 2009 Source Volume Sales 2015 2014 Source 2013 Source 2012 Source 2011 Source 2008 Source 2007 Source 2006 Source 2005 Source Huge thanks to Agafin, bigivelfhq, TheNextChamp, toutoune134 and tsudecimo! |
AnaDec 20, 2015 3:00 AM
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| One piece, naruto and fairy tale seem to be the dominant force over there. |
keragamming said: One piece, naruto and fairy tale seem to be the dominant force over there. I guess it could interest you to know that Attack on Titan is considered a seinen in France, published by a seinen magazine and sold only to 18+ (which is a smaller demographic than shonen over there) which probably explains why it didn't explode as much as in Japan and the US. The french judge its content inappropriate for teenagers. This makes it the best selling seinen by a landslide. Yeah, Naruto (print per volume in 2014: 180k), One Piece (165k) and Fairy tale (90k) have been the "Big three" over there for several years now. Bleach was a distant fourth (50k) but has been recently surpassed by SNK (60k). Naruto, Bleach and FT are declining in sales, OP is more less constant. SNK is gaining popularity. |
AgafinJun 2, 2015 2:50 AM
| Ana: hijacked the post. France's Yearly Manga Circulation Prints / Title / Volume / Mangaka / Publisher 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 |
AnaJul 8, 2015 3:55 AM
| France Sales 2014 TOP 20 Source: http://www.9emeart.fr/post/news/general/voici-les-20-bd-les-plus-vendues-en-2014-3393 2013 TOP 25 Source: http://www.9emeart.fr/post/news/general/voici-les-25-bd-les-plus-vendues-en-2013-1176 2012 Top 25 Source: http://www.wartmag.com/voici-les-25-bd-qui-se-sont-le-plus-vendues-en-2012/ 2011 Top 50 Source: http://www.du9.org/dossier/meilleures-ventes-2011/ Evolution of Total sales 2007 to 2010 Source: http://www.du9.org/dossier/numerologie-edition-2010/ Naruto best volume performance 2005 to 2010 Source: http://www.du9.org/dossier/numerologie-edition-2010/ |
bigivelfhqJun 2, 2015 8:26 AM
Agafin said: keragamming said: One piece, naruto and fairy tale seem to be the dominant force over there. I guess it could interest you to know that Attack on Titan is considered a seinen in France, published by a seinen magazine and sold only to 18+ (which is a smaller demographic than shonen over there) which probably explains why it didn't explode as much as in Japan and the US. The french judge its content inappropriate for teenagers. This makes it the best selling seinen by a landslide. Yeah, Naruto (print per volume in 2014: 180k), One Piece (165k) and Fairy tale (90k) have been the "Big three" over there for several years now. Bleach was a distant fourth (50k) but has been recently surpassed by SNK (60k). Naruto, Bleach and FT are declining in sales, OP is more less constant. SNK is gaining popularity. Thnx for the info, I didn't know any of that. |
| 2008 yearly. Voici le classement des meilleures ventes de manga en France pour l'année 2008 1 - Naruto 34 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 133 000 ventes 2- Naruto 35 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 123 300 ventes 3- Naruto 36 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 118 100 ventes 4- Naruto 37 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 117 200 ventes 5- Naruto 38 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 112 900 ventes 6- Naruto 39 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 94 200 ventes 7- Death note 8 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 72 200 ventes 8- Death note 9 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 64 000 ventes 9- Naruto 33 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 62 400 ventes 10- Naruto 01 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 62 200 ventes 11- Death note 10 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 58 600 ventes 12- Death note 1 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 56 300 ventes 13- Death note 11 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 53 600 ventes 14- Death note 12 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 47 400 ventes 15- Death note 7 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 46 300 ventes 16- Fullmetal Alchemist 16 de Hiromu Arakawa (Kurokawa) avec 46 200 ventes 17- Naruto 3 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 46 100 ventes 18- Death note 3 de Takeshi Obata & Tsugumi Ohba (Kana) avec 45 300 ventes 19- Naruto 2 de Masashi Kishimoto (Kana) avec 45 200 ventes http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-51-5516573-1-0-1-0-meilleure-ventes-mangas-2008-en-france.htm |
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| Since you guys don't care whether the lists are complete or not, I guess I can just throw the sales figures I have. France Manga Sales 2005 http://infobd.over-blog.com/article-1703162.html 2006 http://infobd.over-blog.com/article-5344933.html 2007 http://kis90bd.free.fr/les_zamignoufs/pages/top_50_07.php 2008 (tsud already did it) http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-51-5516573-1-0-1-0-meilleure-ventes-mangas-2008-en-france.htm 2009 http://www.actuabd.com/Le-marche-la-BD-affiche-en-2009 2010 http://www.du9.org/dossier/numerologie-edition-2010/ ( will just copypaste from here on since someone already made the research for 2011-2014) |
tsudecimoJun 3, 2015 4:17 AM
| At its peak in 2008, it was estimated that a sixth of all the manga volumes in Circulation in France were Naruto volumes. Death Note is the only manga which came close to this level of hype (but still way behind). And then there's One Piece which also had a massive boom. The biggest yearly manga sales ever recorded was Naruto in 2008 which sold 2 million copies. It has sold nearly 16 million overall as of January 2015. |
| Do you have the source of Naruto data. Do you have of any other, like Dragon Ball and Bleach? I have known that since 2013 One Piece has sold 9 Million copies in france: http://www.mythologica.net/one-piece-music-symphony-debarque-a-paris/ |
| The first paragraph of what I said (Naruto having 1/6 of the total circulation/sales) can be found here ( the dude made an English version so I'll post that one): http://www.du9.org/en/dossier/numerology-2008-edition-i/ The proportion fell back to 1/7th in 2009 since the anime boost of 2006 had faded. The total sales are actually 17 million sources: http://www.konbini.com/fr/entertainment-2/naruto-fini/ http://www.mouv.fr/article-manga-la-fin-d-une-ere https://peppypress.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/naruto-la-fin-dune-saga/ The French wikipedia for Naruto also says that in 2012, it had 14 million total sales and it's been selling 700k-1000k annually since 2009. I'm a bit busy so I'll see if I can find One Piece and Dragon Ball values later. Edit: Dragon Ball sold 17 million too. sources: http://www.glenatmanga.com/histoire-du-manga.asp http://www.lecturejeunesse.org/articles/la-bande-dessinee-de-fantasy-un-genre-devalue/ The One Piece sales you provided (9 million) are the most recent I could find too. |
AgafinJun 3, 2015 1:08 AM
| Thanks Ana, for organizing the thread! Agafin said: At its peak in 2008, it was estimated that a sixth of all the manga volumes in Circulation in France were Naruto volumes. Death Note is the only manga which came close to this level of hype (but still way behind). And then there's One Piece which also had a massive boom. The biggest yearly manga sales ever recorded was Naruto in 2008 which sold 2 million copies. It has sold nearly 16 million overall as of January 2015. I read that line before in Narutoforums, didn't know if it was true or he was exaggerating. Ha! someone in told me in a shounensite, that one piece, has more copies than Naruto, and linked me an article that said so, in 2011, but I guess, they meant in that year, not overall. Thanks for sharing, I was only aware of 2008 sales. And looks like Naruto and DB sales outside of Japan are so close or the exact same, their prints overall outside of Japan are very close, like you probably now, 70 to 73. Naruto will probably have more eventually after a couple of years. |
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| Yeah, when Naruto first aired on Game One and NT1 (the french equivalents of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim ), it had a massive explosion in popularity gathering tv viewerships of well over 1 million. This made it be the best selling all category (manga or not) comic in 2006 (and later 2007, 2008 and 2012) outselling the popular home titles (Tintin, Titeuf and Asterix) which is an incredibly rare occurence (for a foreign title to outsell home titles that is). There was even a popular meme back then which was "in the french manga industry, there's Naruto and then there's the rest" while the term big three was never a thing there. Between, this is not to say, it didn't sell well before, not at all. 2005 was even called the "Year of Mangalisation (made up term)" because among other things, it was the first year since Dragonball that a manga actually managed to be so much represented on the Top 50. It also had good sales in 2004 according to that article but just didn't make the Top 50. I'm surprised myself by how close their sales (DB and Naruto) are all over the world. It's almost scary. But Naruto will surpass it with time. I hope you saw that I corrected the value you quoted in the subsequent post (its 17 already, not 16 anymore). I don't think that any manga could reach those two in France. Maybe if One Piece runs for 80 more volumes and doesn't loose popularity which is unlikely. Fairy Tale is out of the equation, I don't have the updated sales of up to 2014 but I know that it had total sales of 1 million by the end of 2011 and that was with the anime boost, so it probably hasn't even reached 2 million yet. |
AgafinJun 3, 2015 8:19 AM
| That's very interesting, didn't know Naruto was that popular in France. I would guess, that Naruto filled in the shoes of DB outside of Japan. Btw, if you don't mind me asking, how come you know so much about the industry in France? |
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| Because I speak French. It's much easier to carry out some research when you can type the key words in the specific language concerned which I guess is why Ana was capable of finding all those Japanese sales that you as a non native speaker would never find even your life depended on it. There's also the fact that I spent part of my Childhood in France and as such, lived part of what I'm talking about. I also follow some french channels maybe because I prefer a particular french dub of a tv series to the english dub or (when watching the news) because I want to get different points of views since some can be biased. The thing I said about Naruto outselling home titles was actually something that I heard on tv before it was added to Wikipedia. I doubt I know about the infustry more than Setsuko-Hara though. You should probably erase your initial statement in the opening post since it serves no purpose anymore. |
AgafinJun 3, 2015 12:27 PM
| May Source 1. Fairy Tail vol.44 2. One Piece vol.74 3. Attack on Titan vol.13 4. Naruto vol.66 5. Bleach vol.63 6. Ubel Blatt vol.16 7. Fairy Tail vol.43 8. Tokyo Ghoul vol.11 9. Darwin's game vol.5 10. Blue exoricist vol.14 11. The heroic legend of Arslan vol.1 12. One Piece vol.73 |
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| ^June sales ranking has been available for a while now. 1. Fairy Tail vol.44 2. The heroic legend of Arslan vol.1 3. One Piece vol.74 4. Attack on Titan vol.13 5. Seven deadly sins vol.9 6. Attack on Titan- Before the fall vol.4 7. Area D vol.8 8. A silent voice vol.3 9. UQ Holder vol.5 10. Bleach vol.63 11. Naruto vol.66 12. Darwin's game vol.5 source |
| It seems like the July sales were never reported for some reason. Here's August: 1. One Piece vol.75 2. Naruto vol.67 3. Fairy Tail vol.45 4. One Piece vol.74 5. Ajin vol.1 6. Attack on Titan vol.14 7. Jaco - the galactic patrolman 8. One piece Original Edition vol.1 9. Secret vol.1 10. Fairy Tail vol.44 11. Naruto vol.66 12. Attack on Titan vol.1 http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2015/09/16/Meilleures-ventes-manga-en-France-pour-Aout-2015 It's funny how AoT vol. 1 randomly appears on the list just like in the US. One Piece vol. 1 is up there too as well as that Toriyama's manga. Besides Ajin and Secret, this list is filled with mainstream shounen, pretty boring tbh. Ana: added. Thank you! |
AnaOct 2, 2015 4:48 AM
| I hope that volume 1 sells means that One Piece is getting another boost in fanbase. How is One Piece anime situation in France? |
milkydean said: It looks Ft , op and aot will be dominant in france now that Naruto is over Good for them.Also how much copies do each of these mangas sale yearly? Note that in France Naruto is still 5 volumes from the end, so I believe it will still take 1 year to end there. One Piece last reported best volume was 2014 volume #69 selling 107,000. Naruto last reported best volume was 2014 volume #62 selling 87,200. Fairy Tail last reported best volume was 2013 volume #28 selling 56,800. No data for Attack on Titan, probably this year will be the first time appearing in the list. |
bigivelfhq said: I hope that volume 1 sells means that One Piece is getting another boost in fanbase. How is One Piece anime situation in France? One Piece is definitely getting new fans in France but you have to remember that that volume is a new edition which was just released so it is also being bought by old fans (especially collectors). It is a large format version (the other versions had the standard palm size) which is a bit more faithful since it retains most of the original names as they are in Jpanese (previous versions romanized all the names). The panels and speech bubbles are also displaced as in the Japanese version (right to left) unlike some of the previous versions which were read from left to right. So with all these changes, I'm sure both old and new fans bought the volume. The One Piece anime is doing well over here. Unlike Japan or the US, two dubbed episodes are broadcasted everyday from Monday to Friday (rather than once a week) so the anime pacing doesn't really bother casual viewers here. |
Agafin said: bigivelfhq said: I hope that volume 1 sells means that One Piece is getting another boost in fanbase. How is One Piece anime situation in France? One Piece is definitely getting new fans in France but you have to remember that that volume is a new edition which was just released so it is also being bought by old fans (especially collectors). It is a large format version (the other versions had the standard palm size) which is a bit more faithful since it retains most of the original names as they are in Jpanese (previous versions romanized all the names). The panels and speech bubbles are also displaced as in the Japanese version (right to left) unlike some of the previous versions which were read from left to right. So with all these changes, I'm sure both old and new fans bought the volume. The One Piece anime is doing well over here. Unlike Japan or the US, two dubbed episodes are broadcasted everyday from Monday to Friday (rather than once a week) so the anime pacing doesn't really bother casual viewers here. Ah, so is like some kind of collector version, a Kanzenban or Bunkoban. Is interesting to now that they already making this type of version in France. Here in Portugal is the same thing for One Piece, though is in a cable channel so not everybody can watch it(Dragon Ball here did the same but in "normal"(?) Television). Here there is also the problem that they only dubbed to Skypiea and it already aired all the episodes, so right now is showing re-airs. |
bigivelfhq said: Ah, so is like some kind of collector version, a Kanzenban or Bunkoban. Is interesting to now that they already making this type of version in France. Here in Portugal is the same thing for One Piece, though is in a cable channel so not everybody can watch it(Dragon Ball here did the same but in "normal"(?) Television). Here there is also the problem that they only dubbed to Skypiea and it already aired all the episodes, so right now is showing re-airs. Yes, it's exactly that. Well, they'll soon have to slow down to one episode per day and then go on hiatus (or re air) since they're catching up. There are currently 689 dubbed episodes (one episode is dubbed per week). There's also another channel (J-One) which broadcasts subbed episodes (one per week like in Japan) and keeps a 4-5 episode gap with the Japanese version to not catch up (they're currently at episode 708 I think) so there'll simply never be a lack of One Piece episodes on French television. |
| Might as well add this, October sales: 1. Naruto vol.68 2. One Piece vol.76 3. Fairy Tail vol.46 4. Black Butler vol.20 5. Tokyo Ghoul vol.13 6. Assassination classroom vol.10 7. Attack on Titan vol.15 8. GTO Lost Paradise vol.1 9. Sword art online : progressive vol.2 10. Darwin's game vol.7 11. Seven deadly sins vol.11 12. The heroic legend of Arslan vol.3 13. A silent voice vol.5 14. Bleach vol.65 15. One Piece vol.75 September seems to be skipped as well for some reason http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2015/11/09/Meilleures-ventes-manga-en-France-pour-Octobre-2015 and it's now a top 15 instead of the random 12 |
ChampNov 15, 2015 7:09 AM
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| Oh nice info toutoune! that bdzoom site also says the amount of copies it sold for most series I'll just post the September sales in the format they use here so they can copy it easily 1. One Piece vol.76 2. Naruto vol.68 3. Fairy Tail vol.46 4. Attack on Titan vol.15 5. One Piece vol.75 6. Seven Deadly Sins vol.10 7. Naruto vol.67 8. Ajin vol.2 9. Area D vol.9 10. Übel Blatt vol.17 11. The Arms Peddler vol.7 12. Fairy Tail vol.45 13. Secret vol.2 14. Bride Stories vol.7 15. Akame Ga Kill ! vol.6 http://bdzoom.com/91947/mangas/%C2%AB-top-15-mangas-%C2%BB-de-septembre-2015/ One Piece vol76 sold 150k, Fairy Tail 90k, AoT 40k, but thats low because there are some special edditions ( bigger volumes for a higher price) don't think it's worth adding the sales in the list because they don't mention the sales of all the volumes the lowest on the list Akama Ga Kill sold 22k fyi |
ChampNov 27, 2015 1:34 PM
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toutoune134 said: Thanks for the September ranking. Bdzoom also seems to have the Top 15 for every month (besides July) so I guess we could use those to expand our Top 12s into Top 15s. |
| Oh k thx for the info again |
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| http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2015/12/01/Meilleures-ventes-manga-en-France-pour-Novembre-2015 Ana: Added. November Source 1. Naruto vol.69 2. Fairy Tail vol.47 3. One Piece vol.76 4. Naruto vol.68 5. Bleach vol.65 6. Fairy Tail Vol.46 7. Shingeki no Kyojin vol.16 8. GTO Paradise Lost vol.2 9. Kuroshitsuji vol.20 10. Ao no Exorcist vol.15 11. Arslan Senki vol.3 12. Sword Art Online: Phantom Bullet vol.1 13. Koe no Katachi vol.5 14. One Piece vol.75 15. Darwin's Game vol.7 |
AnaDec 20, 2015 3:03 AM
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Username said: 2015 sales when? Around January! |
toutoune134 said: ACBD's report on 2015 is out! http://www.acbd.fr/category/les-bilans-de-l-acbd/ Click on "Télécharger le Bilan (PDF)" under "2015 : l’année de la rationalisation" The most printed volumes are on page 20. Seems like for the first time One Piece volumes printed more than Naruto. Naruto as been selling less than One Piece for 3 years(not counting this year), but it always had bigger print numbers. One Piece print numbers, they seem rather strange for 2015. In 2014 all volume got a 165k copies printed. That is normal for a series. Though in 2015 One Piece got this: 160k -> 160k -> 170k -> 146k ->149k Is the publisher experimenting with the print numbers, or why did it increased in 1 volume and significantly decreased in the next, and the right next to that increased again. Are One Piece that chaotic? Print comparison with last year: One Piece -> 16k decrease(overall 8k decrease) Naruto -> 30k decrease Fairy Tail -> 10k decrease(The series got 7 volumes this year) Attack on Titan - 3k increase |
bigivelfhqDec 29, 2015 6:07 AM
Moverman75 said: toutoune134 said: ACBD's report on 2015 is out! http://www.acbd.fr/category/les-bilans-de-l-acbd/ Click on "Télécharger le Bilan (PDF)" under "2015 : l’année de la rationalisation" The most printed volumes are on page 20. Tokyo Ghoul is quite low, and Bleach is still hanging in there surprisingly, Bleach will probably drop under 30k next year Isn't TG's print number like 30k or something? It didn't even rank in 2014's list so I'd say it's doing fine now. |
toutoune134 said: Interesting article about the manga market in France in 2015 : http://premium.lefigaro.fr/medias/2016/01/17/20004-20160117ARTFIG00115-le-marche-francais-du-manga-renoue-avec-la-croissance.php http://premium.lefigaro.fr/bd/2016/01/18/03014-20160118ARTFIG00109-les-cinq-mangas-les-plus-vendus-en-2015.php Since it's a premium article I'll give the important numbers : The manga market is 8.3% up compared to last year (and 6,5 % up in volume sold) Number of manga sold in 2015 in France : 12.4 million volumes One Piece : 1.3 million volumes sold in 2015 Fairy Tail : 930,000 volumes sold in 2015 Naruto : 650,000 volumes sold in 2015 Attack on Titan : 400,000 volumes sold in 2105 (twice as much as 2014, 125,000 in 2013 which was its first year) Bleach : 230,000 volumes sold in 2015 The Osama game (王様ゲーム, known as King's game in France) franchise has sold 600,000 volumes since the first volume that came out in 2013 Assassination Classroom sells on average 14,000 copies per volume after 3 months. Arslan Senki sold 70,000 volumes with its three first volumes. Koe no Katachi sold 73,000 volumes with 5 volumes released so far. One Punch Man's first volume has a first print of 60,000 volumes. That's huge. Wow, that's very informative, thank you. One Piece is still booming over here, the first volume (as well as some other earlier volumes) frequently make(s) the Top 15 every month so I'm not surprised by its massive 1.3 million total. Its sales have declined from last year according to the article but they are still far above everything else. Also, this means that OP has now sold OVER 10 MILLION copies in France. SNK is even more impressive though, it has five times less volumes than OP currently in circulation (15 vs 76) yet managed to sell up to a third as much as it (400k vs 1.3 mln) which means that its individual backlog volumes are selling a lot more than OP's. Even more impressive is the fact that it nearly doubled its sales from 2013 to 2014 and again doubled them from 2014 to 2015, all of that WITHOUT an anime airing. I can't wait to see what it'll sell when the second season airs, it'll probably easily surpass FMA's popularity. And just like I predicted last month, OPM is off to a gigantic start. 60k is (if I'm not mistaken) the biggest first print of a first volume since Death Note, nine years ago! If the reception is as good as the hype indicates, it will easily go overr 100k by the end of the year. |
AgafinJan 18, 2016 11:11 AM
| Wow, Dragon Ball still 7th after all these years |
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| TG did better than AssClass and NNT? Kinda confused since they ABCD's report showed both of those titles doing a tad bit better. GG regardless since it's no small feat. |
Z4KJan 20, 2016 6:06 AM
TheNextChamp said: Wow, Dragon Ball still 7th after all these years Yeah, it has some remarkable longevity. It keeps being re-aired on tv again and again anyway, so it'll never run out of new fans. Death Note is also pretty impressive I suppose. Came out nearly a decade or so ago, yet it's still selling 100k copies per year and only has 13 volumes. FMA too, to some extent. Those two also had re-airs last year on our most popular anime channel though. Z4k said: TG did better than AssClass and NNT? Kinda confused since they ABCD's report showed both of those titles doing a tad bit better. In per volume sales, AssClass should still comfortable be above both since it only released 4 volumes last year in France (as opposed to 6 for TG & NNT). TG in turn sells more than NNT per volume. The fact that it was printed less than NNT yet sold more ( according to ACBD, since it only reports prints rather than sales) probably means that it surpassed their expectations and will have an increase in initial prints. Same thing that happened with One Piece in comparison to Naruto. |
AgafinJan 20, 2016 7:01 AM
toutoune134 said: https://twitter.com/W_Chloe/status/689501289860980737 One Punch Man volume 1 already needs a reprint : + 30,000 volumes, for a total of 95,000 volumes printed. That's just insane. I thought it would take a year to hit 100k, it might just take a month lol. I wonder whether it can reach the record of 137,000 copies printed by Death Note's first volume in 2007. |
| December Sales Source 1. One Piece vol.77 2. Fairy Tail vol.48 3. Naruto vol.69 4. Fairy Tail vol.47 5. Chi's Sweet Home vol.12 6. Poison Cityl vol.2 7. One Piece vol.76 8. Red eyes sword vol.7 9. Naruto vol.68 10. Saint Seiya lost canvas chronicles vol.11 11. Attack on Titan vol.16 12. One Piece Original Edition vol.1 13. Tokyo Ghoul vol.14 14. Seven deadly sins vol.12 15. Fairy Tail vol.1 |
ChampJan 21, 2016 1:08 PM
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