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Jun 4, 2015 4:13 AM

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Soooo... Mahouka s2?
Tutturu ~
 
Jun 4, 2015 4:32 PM
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keragamming said:
^ everyone knows about attack on titan? I doubt that. And if so not everyone did buy the manga volumes. Maybe they didn't like the first season. But who knows maybe when the second season airs they may like the second season and start buying the manga volumes. Op sells 3mill copies that means snk can always go up in per volume sales. also that little boost could do wonders. and how can someone know if an arc is really good if they don't buy the volume? The only other way people can know that is by word of mouth or simple hype, which means everyone is talking about it.

Also by 2016 snk should be soon at its climax since it will probably end around late 2017 early 2018. Reaching to the basement + s2 anime hype. So my IMO basement arc should bring a lot of hype since that's what most people are interesting in. I always have anime watchers ask me if they have reach the basement yet.

Dragon88 I know you fancy op more than snk, but straight up telling me that what I'm saying will never happen in a million years is ridiculous, unless you're from thd future.

I'm not saying that what I'm saying is going to happen next year, all I'm saying its a possibility, even if its 1% chance its still a possibility. So you can breath easy now, know one said that snk will beat op next year in sales. So just stop this mindless debate.


Arcanix keep watching. ;)


Look I am not bashing your idea but most likely AOT won't beat OP just because the second season would come out. Even at the end of last year's sales I said the gap between OP and AOT would increase a lot this year and it did. And my prediction if a manga beats OP at least for 1st half, it would have to be a different manga either Tokyo Ghoul or NNT and NNT won. AOT and OP have very high volume sales and neither seems to be going up and this is Japan's sales and by now everyone probably knows about AOT there. Its not really a new manga anymore and after everyone finding about it about 2.6 million buys the volume regularly just like about 3.2 million people buy the OP volume regularly and don't see the number changing much from that.

Look its possible that AOT would beat OP but very very unlikely. I see NNT having a better chance but even with that my prediction is that if OP sales 2 more volumes by the end of the year OP would win otherwise NNT.

And speaking of volumes AOT would just sale 1 more volume this year while OP would sell most likely 2 more volumes this year. So I give it less then 1% chance of AOT beating OP this year.
 
Jun 4, 2015 4:47 PM

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^ who said anything about snk beating op this year? 1% seems a bit too high tbh.
 
Jun 4, 2015 10:19 PM
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Damn, Nanatsu no Taizai :O
 
Jun 5, 2015 8:54 PM
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keragamming said:
^ who said anything about snk beating op this year? 1% seems a bit too high tbh.

Look if you are talking about next year or much later in the future, then its too hard to tell anything. For all we know Oda could become sick and can't sale too much volumes next year. I am just looking at 2015. After the end of 2015 sales then I would talk about 2016 sales, not now. And its possible that AOT becomes much more popular by the time next year rolls around but its too early, we just had 1st half manga sales of this year. I am just talking about the end of this year not the far future. And my prediction for the end of this year is OP #1 and NNT #2. #3 is Assassination classroom. Then most likely AOT.
 
Jun 5, 2015 9:19 PM

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Dragon88 said:
keragamming said:
^ who said anything about snk beating op this year? 1% seems a bit too high tbh.

Look if you are talking about next year or much later in the future, then its too hard to tell anything. For all we know Oda could become sick and can't sale too much volumes next year. I am just looking at 2015. After the end of 2015 sales then I would talk about 2016 sales, not now. And its possible that AOT becomes much more popular by the time next year rolls around but its too early, we just had 1st half manga sales of this year. I am just talking about the end of this year not the far future. And my prediction for the end of this year is OP #1 and NNT #2. #3 is Assassination classroom. Then most likely AOT.


So all this time you thought I was talking about this year? Even though I brought up season 2 which comes out in 2016? Ok.........

Anyways the point is, me and the others were just putting this possibility out there. Nothing else, nothing more. So you were getting all worked up for nothing.
 
Jun 5, 2015 10:51 PM
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it makes me really happy to see that haikyuu!! is doing so well
like the haikyuu!!-biased piece of shit that i am
 
Jun 6, 2015 3:51 AM

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So I just saw this article from ANN and it made me wonder, do volumes usually get more than one printing?

Other than that, that list just goes to show how popular Sheisha is. One Punch Man, which is in ranked 15th in the magazine, outsells anything lower than the top 9 in both Kodansha and Shogakukan. And speaking of OPM, if it gets a significant boost from the anime it should do wonders.
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5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
 
Jun 6, 2015 3:55 AM

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geralt said:
So I just saw this article from ANN and it made me wonder, do volumes usually get more than one printing?

You posted the wrong link, it goes the http://myanimelist.net/panel.php
 
Jun 6, 2015 3:58 AM

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Thanks, i fixed it
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
 
Jun 6, 2015 4:41 AM

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geralt said:
So I just saw this article from ANN and it made me wonder, do volumes usually get more than one printing?


Of course, the earlier volumes of long runners like OP or Naruto have been reprinted several times over the years. But it is more common when a manga gets an anime adaptation like Haikyuu, TG, Agk or even Kiseijuu.

An interesting case is BnHA whose first volume was heavily underestimated and received an initial print of 150,000 copies which were all sold by the second week obliging them to reprint that volume. They didn't repeat that mistake though since vol 2 received an initial printing of 600,000 copies.
 
Jun 6, 2015 5:02 AM

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geralt said:
So I just saw this article from ANN and it made me wonder, do volumes usually get more than one printing?


Almost always, yes. If it doesn't it means that the publisher very badly overestimated the number of copies that it would sell. I own several manga volumes with print run numbers in the 20s.

Other than that, that list just goes to show how popular Sheisha is. One Punch Man, which is in ranked 15th in the magazine, outsells anything lower than the top 9 in both Kodansha and Shogakukan. And speaking of OPM, if it gets a significant boost from the anime it should do wonders.


Shueisha is a company, not a magazine. As are Kodansha and Shogakukan.
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Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
Jun 6, 2015 7:31 PM
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keragamming said:
Dragon88 said:

Look if you are talking about next year or much later in the future, then its too hard to tell anything. For all we know Oda could become sick and can't sale too much volumes next year. I am just looking at 2015. After the end of 2015 sales then I would talk about 2016 sales, not now. And its possible that AOT becomes much more popular by the time next year rolls around but its too early, we just had 1st half manga sales of this year. I am just talking about the end of this year not the far future. And my prediction for the end of this year is OP #1 and NNT #2. #3 is Assassination classroom. Then most likely AOT.


So all this time you thought I was talking about this year? Even though I brought up season 2 which comes out in 2016? Ok.........

Anyways the point is, me and the others were just putting this possibility out there. Nothing else, nothing more. So you were getting all worked up for nothing.

Why do you keep on saying that I am getting worked up, I am not. You are the one that brought the topic up. Also usually people don't talk about the next year's sales, they talk about the current year's sales so I automatically assumed you were talking about this year's sale. And I don't watch or read AOT anymore so really don't know when the anime was coming out. When you said the anime was coming out I thought it was coming out this year and you were saying that AOT would become #1 this year. Next year is way too early to tell anything. I am just curious as to what the sales would be at the end of this year, next year for next year.
 
Jun 6, 2015 8:07 PM

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^ I said attack on titan would become number 1 next year? That's a lie. I only said its a possibility with s2 coming out next year. Key word possibility. I didn't say snk would become #1 next year.

I thought I made that very clear. Also if you were not paying attention, I wasn't the one who brought up this topic about snk possible beating one piece when the 2nd season is released. Another user did.

I was simple replying to the discussion between that user and a few op fans. That it's indeed possible for snk to beat op next year. That's all.

You are the one that misunderstood everything, you came in without even properly reading what I said.

And then you have the nerve to say you don't see any arc in snk that would bring up any hype, even though you don't even follow the series anymore. Like how the hell can you know if the series will have a brilliant arc in the future when you don't even follow the series yourself? Unless you are a time traveller.

Next time make sure you read a person comment properly so you don't misunderstand what the person has said. And also don't assume.

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Jun 6, 2015 8:14 PM

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Koko de quiz desu!:)

What will I be doing now?

Predictions for the full year list XD

-One Piece will be nr. 1
-Nanatsu no Taizai will be nr. 2
-Shingeki no Kyojin will be nr 3
-Ansatsu Kyoushitsu will be nr. 4
-Haikyuu!! will stay nr. 5

-kimi ni todoke on the list
-kuroshitsuji on the list
-kiseijuu and strobe edge off the list
-Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso off the list
-Neon Genesis Evangelion off the list
-naruto and tokyo ghoul out of the top 10
-tokyo ghoul re in the top 10
-shokugeki no souma in the top 10
-bleach in the top 20
-toriko back on the list, if it manages to keep the upward trend it's been on
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Jun 6, 2015 11:05 PM

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-bleach in the top 20
-toriko back on the list, if it manages to keep the upward trend it's been on

You're being too optimistic mate.
 
Jun 6, 2015 11:59 PM

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keragamming said:
And then you have the nerve to say you don't see any arc in snk that would bring up any hype, even though you don't even follow the series anymore.


Funny thing is that SNK has already proven that it can generate hype on its own without the push from an anime or a movie like One Piece.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=276495
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=277574
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=278618
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=280521
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=281561
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=282420
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=283431
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=284549

After the release of volume 3 in Dec 2010 (the one containing
), all the 3 volumes of SNK available made the Top 30 list for 8 straight weeks selling 40-50k per week each (and they would have lasted more weeks if it was Top 50 instead of Top 30 like we currently have) basically what you would expect from a manga having a huge anime or movie boost except SNK didn't have any of that, just the sheer (mouth to ear) hype from that arc.

I don't think I've ever seen One Piece just all of a sudden having that type of boost just because of an arc. There's always either the anime boost (1999) or the movie boost (2009-2011).

So yes, Dragon88 is bullshitting, he probably can't get hyped for SNK but thinks it's the same for everyone.
 
Jun 7, 2015 12:15 AM

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Agafin said:
keragamming said:
And then you have the nerve to say you don't see any arc in snk that would bring up any hype, even though you don't even follow the series anymore.


Funny thing is that SNK has already proven that it can generate hype on its own without the push from an anime or a movie like One Piece.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=276495
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=277574
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=278618
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=280521
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=281561
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=282420
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=283431
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=284549

After the release of volume 3 in Dec 2010 (the one containing
), all the 3 volumes of SNK available made the Top 30 list for 8 straight weeks selling 40-50k per week each (and they would have lasted more weeks if it was Top 50 instead of Top 30 like we currently have) basically what you would expect from a manga having a huge anime or movie boost except SNK didn't have any of that, just the sheer (mouth to ear) hype from that arc.

I don't think I've ever seen One Piece just all of a sudden having that type of boost just because of an arc. There's always either the anime boost (1999) or the movie boost (2009-2011).

So yes, Dragon88 is bullshitting, he probably can't get hyped for SNK but thinks it's the same for everyone.


SnK was doing well before the anime, yes. Plus take Nanatsu for example the anime boosted the sales a lot. Same happened with SnK, but it was doing well before it too.

Did the Strong World movie really boost the sales so much for One Piece?
 
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Yeah unfortunately it did. Without it one piece would be in 150 million prints range, probably.

Fuck you toei
 
Jun 7, 2015 12:46 AM

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Yeah unfortunately it did. Without it one piece would be in 120 million prints range, probably.

Fuck you toei


Always wondered why the sales those years were so ridiculously high. Then Film Z gave it a good boost too huh. For shounen movies, they were enjoyable.
 
Jun 7, 2015 1:27 AM

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Agafin said:
keragamming said:
And then you have the nerve to say you don't see any arc in snk that would bring up any hype, even though you don't even follow the series anymore.


Funny thing is that SNK has already proven that it can generate hype on its own without the push from an anime or a movie like One Piece.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=276495
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=277574
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=278618
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=280521
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=281561
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=282420
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=283431
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=284549

After the release of volume 3 in Dec 2010 (the one containing
), all the 3 volumes of SNK available made the Top 30 list for 8 straight weeks selling 40-50k per week each (and they would have lasted more weeks if it was Top 50 instead of Top 30 like we currently have) basically what you would expect from a manga having a huge anime or movie boost except SNK didn't have any of that, just the sheer (mouth to ear) hype from that arc.

I don't think I've ever seen One Piece just all of a sudden having that type of boost just because of an arc. There's always either the anime boost (1999) or the movie boost (2009-2011).

So yes, Dragon88 is bullshitting, he probably can't get hyped for SNK but thinks it's the same for everyone.


Agafin, you've done it again. Hopefully dragon88 won't bully poor me anymore.
 
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SnK was doing well before the anime, yes. Plus take Nanatsu for example the anime boosted the sales a lot. Same happened with SnK, but it was doing well before it too.


Yeah and it's even more impressive since it's not a Jump title (which means less exposition).

Vol 3 of AoT sold 895,000 copies in 2011 without an anime, second highest sales I've seen after AssClass vol 2's 910,000 in 2013 without an anime ( though technically, AssClass had and OVA and and to be fair, more exposition)
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Did the Strong World movie really boost the sales so much for One Piece?

Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Piece_Film:_Strong_World

"The promotions surrounding Strong World boosted the sales of the One Piece manga during the week of December 7 through 13, causing all 56 then published volumes to be listed in Oricon's Top 200 chart of weekly Japanese manga sales."

It received a lot of advertisement and promotion and was very succesful at every level.

Personally, Strong World wasn't good, the ending especially was very stupid.

I generally dislike battle shonen movies, the only ones I consider above average are Film Z, Road to Ninja and maybe Battle of gods.

@kera, you're welcome ;) The good thing about numbers is that they never lie.
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Agafin said:
metsujin said:
SnK was doing well before the anime, yes. Plus take Nanatsu for example the anime boosted the sales a lot. Same happened with SnK, but it was doing well before it too.


Yeah and it's even more impressive since it's not a Jump title (which means less exposition).

Vol 3 of AoT sold 895,000 copies in 2011 without an anime, second highest sales I've seen after AssClass vol 2's 910,000 in 2013 without an anime ( though technically, AssClass had and OVA and and to be fair, more exposition)
metsujin said:
Did the Strong World movie really boost the sales so much for One Piece?

Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Piece_Film:_Strong_World

"The promotions surrounding Strong World boosted the sales of the One Piece manga during the week of December 7 through 13, causing all 56 then published volumes to be listed in Oricon's Top 200 chart of weekly Japanese manga sales."

It received a lot of advertisement and promotion and was very succesful at every level.

Personally, Strong World wasn't good, the ending especially was very stupid.

I generally dislike battle shonen movies, the only ones I consider above average are Film Z, Road to Ninja and maybe Battle of gods.


Woow that's a lot. Yeah in 2011 SnK sold over 3 million copies, 2012 over 2 million, and in 2013 received that huge boost because of the anime. But as the number show it did quite good without the anime, I don't know why people "pick" on it so much.

Personally I like it, and most battle shounen movies are stupid haha, they're for fun.
 
Jun 7, 2015 2:05 AM

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^Good point (about shounen movies). But that's not always the case.
 
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Jun 12, 2015 2:58 PM
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Assassination Classroom has a nice spot. I like this.
 
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I wish Orange was more appreciated
Instead, garbage like Kimi ni Todoke sells like water
 
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