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May 30, 2015 11:11 AM
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Z4k said:
The episode started out fine and all but then there was a huge drop in both art and animation quality right after the airplane crashed. So many stills and skipped frames. What the hell WIT studio? I'm disappointed.



I mean what the hell am I even looking at?

The pacing is still terrible but at least we got to see more of Mika.

2/5


It has been like this since the beginning, I'm not sure why people are just noticing it.
 
May 30, 2015 11:13 AM

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You know... they are the "Imperial Demon Army" and all but do they really have to use bows (even if they are echanted) to shoot down attack helicopters?

A single Phalanx CIWS or SAM on the wall would've taken out not only the attack helicopters in a few seconds but even faster the plane before it even remotely came near the wall. A Phalanx CIWS could also mow down alot of vampires, of which I think many aren't fast enough to evade the bullets. And even if bullets are less effective, they still probably rip them apart by the sheer force and firerate.

The vampires really are a bit smarter in the case, who just still use human military weaponry even though they have all their supernatural powers.
Shouldn't the humans be even better and more prepared at that?

Also, why didn't Yoichi shoot down the second helicopter right after it's first flyby? He really waited until the last second and had to be called to then react like "Oh right, I have long distance weapon that can one-shot the thing! Maybe I should use it..."
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May 30, 2015 11:16 AM
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You know... they are the "Imperial Demon Army" and all but do they really have to use bows (even if they are echanted) to shoot down attack helicopters?

A single Phalanx CIWS or SAM on the wall would've taken out not only the attack helicopters in a few seconds but even faster the plane before it even remotely came near the wall. A Phalanx CIWS could also mow down alot of vampires, of which I think many aren't fast enough to evade the bullets. And even if bullets are less effective, they still probably rip them apart by the sheer force and firerate.

The vampires really are a bit smarter in the case, who just still use human military weaponry even though they have all their supernatural powers.
Shouldn't the humans be even better and more prepared at that?

Also, why didn't Yoichi shoot down the second helicopter right after it's first flyby? He really waited until the last second and had to be called to then react like "Oh right, I have long distance weapon that can one-shot the thing! Maybe I should use it..."


Humans probably don't have access to those weapons since they control so little territory. What I don't understand is why the vampires couldn't have just shot rockets from far away (apache's have long distance capability) or used precision bombing, or just plain old artillery. I understand why don't want to kill everyone there so stuff like carpet bombing and what not is out of the picture but damn, I think it was a mistake showing the vampires using human weaponry.
 
May 30, 2015 11:22 AM

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I was thinking the same. Vampires rule the world so they have most of the worlds artillery, so humans just have whatever they were able to get back and the cursed weapons.
 
May 30, 2015 11:39 AM

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Personally I really enjoyed this episode.

I feel bad for Mika.

Dat cliffhanger was just horrible. How are we supposed to wait a week?

Next week's cliffhanger is gonna be worse probably
 
May 30, 2015 11:40 AM

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StevenHu said:
Why do the vampires even bother blowing up a wall when they can leap over tall buildings in a single bound?
because explosions are cool, michael bay power!

nah but seriously not a lot of things make sense in this anime, just gotta roll with it I guess.

animation and art was something I'd expect from Naruto or some shit produced by Pierrot.
 
May 30, 2015 11:42 AM

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Guren's Squad OMG

Mika vs Guren OMG

Next week is the fateful meeting???? OMFG 0_____0
 
May 30, 2015 11:48 AM

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Some pretty nice action to open up the episode. Felt bad seeing Mika struggling to decide whether or not he should drink the blood. We've been introduced to Gurens team, hopefully we get to see them in action at some point. Looks like we'll see Guren in action next episode so I'm looking forward to that. And it also looks like Mika and Yu will meet next episode.......

Lol at Shinoa, "you're worth less than the shit lying on the ground!" Hilarious

Also, Yoichi needs to learn how to shoot down the helicopters without someone having to say his name first.....
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May 30, 2015 11:53 AM

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Not feeling these fillers...they lost a lot of time this week that I feel could've been better spent. So many of these scenes were so much better in the manga, they were portrayed in much more exciting ways. I feel like the anime is making the series look way worse than it is.

I was so excited at the beginning of the episode because I thought the animators were finally getting their act together, but alas no, there was still plenty of questionable art/animation as the episode continued. Am I just picky?

That being said, it looks like next week one of my favorite parts of the series is animated. Please, PLEASE may it be well-done.
 
May 30, 2015 12:11 PM

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their cursed gear cant even cut thru rocks.. I mean.. LOL
 
May 30, 2015 12:13 PM

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Interesting changes/additions from the manga. They've actually added more fillerish stuff that'll slow down the pace of this arc/series of events. I don't know if it's been confirmed that both seasons are supposed to cover the entire story or not. However, I just finished reading up to Ch. 33 and there is just no way that I'm seeing both of these seasons being able to finish the story imo (I'm almost positive that the manga won't be done by December 2015 either).

Anyway, it was an ok build up for the epic shit-show that is to come in the next two episodes. Can't wait. This is the real Shingeki no Kyojin - Season 2.
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May 30, 2015 12:30 PM
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The art/animation in some bits is pretty terrible. I suppose they don't have a very big budget for this.

I suppose that Mika is going to be pretty OP if he's drinking grade A vampire-hime blood.
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May 30, 2015 12:42 PM

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- Taking pills before battle to enhance abilities
- Said pills should be taken with limit

Sound's almost like trainee young witchers drinking potions before hunting monsters :P
 
May 30, 2015 12:49 PM

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Vampires are using helicopters.

Mika is going to fight against Guren in the next episode.
 
May 30, 2015 1:00 PM

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This is finally getting good after shitty 6 episode training arc!

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
 
May 30, 2015 1:01 PM

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I was actually pleasantly surprised with the action sequences because I wasn't expecting much quality at this point. The fillers are fine too. I'd say that actually bodes quite well for the final run. I just hope the climax is given enough attention to detail to really have an impact.
 
May 30, 2015 1:28 PM

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ichii_1 said:

What you people are complaining about is the ART STYLE lowering a bit in quality.
If you want high quality, you have to pay for blu ray, otherwise deal with it.


Sorry, but if you're going to air your show like this on local Japanese TV, then you'd better be prepared for prime time criticism.
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May 30, 2015 1:29 PM

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I would like to be Krul's dog. Is this a bad thing?
 
May 30, 2015 1:44 PM

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Man, im horrible.
the first thing i thought at the beginning when the cargo when throught the wall and exploded was allah akbar. ._.

You're not the only one lol
 
May 30, 2015 1:52 PM

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Ended right when it was getting to the good part.
Some nice animation at times.
 
May 30, 2015 1:57 PM

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I liked the action
 
May 30, 2015 2:09 PM

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NorthBayAnime said:
The very noticeable fluctuation of animation quality was somewhat annoying.
An enjoyable episode nonetheless.


Yes(in answer to the spoiler)

Decent enough episode, liked the anime original scene, feel like they are taking it really slow though.
 
May 30, 2015 2:26 PM

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Lol doping.. I wonder if Yu is going try an take more than 2 or 3 pills :3
Also.. I'm not falling for that ending, I don't believe Mika will be stabbed..
 
May 30, 2015 3:20 PM

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Guren has best harem this season hands down. But WHY are they making us wait until episode 10 for crying out loud just for the boys to meet already?!

 
May 30, 2015 3:29 PM
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Guren has some good looking girls in his unit, and they're pretty badass too! Norito seems pretty chill as well.

Mika swerving away Krul's glass of blood just to drink from her hand made it almost look like he wasn't going to be satisfied with just that amount. I see how it is.. :3

Pretty sure Yuu will end up taking more than 3 pills at once at some point, but will be able to fight just fine. Since 10% of him isn't human to begin with, that might justify the cause; giving him a higher advantage over the others.

Above average episode. Animation quality declined but it wasn't anything major. The build up made up for it. Looking forward to Guren vs. Mika next week.

 
May 30, 2015 3:29 PM

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I like the episode so much!

The pacing was great, especially if the anime really wanted to end up the first season up to ch. 15~

The animation are good

The battles was epic.

The appearance of Guren's squad is also awesome. Mito is OP!

Mika's more past is revealed and the reason why he is still growing despite being a vampire.

Ferid being creepy as usual. LOL

And that preview..... Even though I already prepared for 9 weeks, I think I am still not ready to see that scene... T^T
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May 30, 2015 4:24 PM

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That was a pretty good episode. I'm really hyped for the next ep.
Judging from the preview, Mika is hella strong.

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May 30, 2015 4:48 PM

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Good episode, even with the struggles seemed much calmer than the previous, small mudaças compared to manga, but I like how this adaptation takes very well the plot, I already have idea of how it will end this season, but I'm looking forward to watch ..
 
May 30, 2015 4:48 PM

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NOOOOO this can't be. Now seriously Guren and Mika gonna fight??? Gosh so epic!! Finally we got some (not too much tho) action in this episode. :D I thought Mika is drinking animal blood or something that's why he is different from the others. So he is drinking loli vampire's blood. Well I don't know how I feel about this... I don't really like Krul.I need that Mika-Yuu reunion NOW because my fangirl heart can't take this anymore T-T And I also need more sassy Ferid. xD
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May 30, 2015 5:35 PM

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Finally the war for Shinjuku finally breaks out. The extra filler wasn't too bad as well and was a fitting addition. It also looks like we get a quick glimpse of Guren's badass squad finally.
 
May 30, 2015 6:00 PM

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Inori_is_love said:
inb4 Mika kills Yu's friends this is getting realy good

also still can't decide

Yu x Mika
or
Yu x Shinoa


Yu x Mika, definitely xD
 
May 30, 2015 6:02 PM

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I have only one opinion of this episode:
'You're so anal' ~Some random vampire 2015.


Best quote EVER xD
 
May 30, 2015 6:15 PM

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It was a awesome episode; however, the animation was kinda distracting for me...
 
May 30, 2015 6:16 PM

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Like 3 people mentioned it about next week, (even tho i haven't read the manga (but still got spoilers -_-) ^^")
Next episode will be awesome, a fateful meeting, stabbing, Guren v.s Mika, Pills, random vampires (0.0)/ (and most of all those fucking pills, got spoilers but.. i will still enjoy it and be like OMG or whut!? xD )
 
May 30, 2015 7:02 PM

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Probably best episode so far but it felt so short :(
 
May 30, 2015 8:22 PM

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Why does this show have all of Attack on Titan's derps but none of Attack on Titan's awesomeness in the visual department.

It being a Jump manga, you'd think that would mean that Wit is working with a reasonable budget. Instead we've now gotten AoT's episode 10 twice now in 9 episodes.
 
May 30, 2015 8:38 PM

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Tokoya said:
StevenHu said:
Why do the vampires even bother blowing up a wall when they can leap over tall buildings in a single bound?

When Shinoa said that the pills leave the user vulnerable after its effects expire, I suppose she meant that you would be exhausted and overexerted.
Gotta fuck shit up with style ;)

And nah, you're pretty much fresh meat after you use them lol


lol i like you're answer and i was thinking the same thing except blowing up the wall also has other tactical advantages too. 1) makes the enemy feel vulnerable/causes chaos and disorder 2) allows dem horsemen monsters things to break in and deal damage too and 3rd thing i thought of was that it just makes it easier to attack as oppose to relying on arial attacks.
 
May 30, 2015 9:01 PM

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Another good episode. Though I wasn't a fan of the anime original filler stuff. Manga readers: was that shit in the beginning with them taking out the helicopters and the team fighting some scrubs anime original too? My memory of the early chaps is a little vague.

So I guess they really plan on stretching out the remaining episodes so that the epic climax is how the first half finishes. Was kind of hoping they'd finish it a bit early, and then set up the beginning of the events for the second half. Guess not.

So it looks like next week its Guren v Mika. Judging from Mika's face in the preview and the shot of them prepping to take the pills, it'll also reach the point where Yuu and team join that fight and Mika sees Yuu. Though since they do seem to be stretching out this battle till the first half finale, I'm predicting that particular scene wont happen towards the latter half of the episode. Almost towards the end.

Seiryuu2 said:
Shitty anime is a shit, dropped it :|

Good. Bye-bye. Ironic since your top 5 practically screams shounenboner, but ok.

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The very noticeable fluctuation of animation quality was somewhat annoying.
An enjoyable episode nonetheless.

To answer your spoiler:
 
May 30, 2015 9:06 PM

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DancingJack said:
You know... they are the "Imperial Demon Army" and all but do they really have to use bows (even if they are echanted) to shoot down attack helicopters?

A single Phalanx CIWS or SAM on the wall would've taken out not only the attack helicopters in a few seconds but even faster the plane before it even remotely came near the wall. A Phalanx CIWS could also mow down alot of vampires, of which I think many aren't fast enough to evade the bullets. And even if bullets are less effective, they still probably rip them apart by the sheer force and firerate.

The vampires really are a bit smarter in the case, who just still use human military weaponry even though they have all their supernatural powers.
Shouldn't the humans be even better and more prepared at that?

Also, why didn't Yoichi shoot down the second helicopter right after it's first flyby? He really waited until the last second and had to be called to then react like "Oh right, I have long distance weapon that can one-shot the thing! Maybe I should use it..."


Humans probably don't have access to those weapons since they control so little territory. What I don't understand is why the vampires couldn't have just shot rockets from far away (apache's have long distance capability) or used precision bombing, or just plain old artillery. I understand why don't want to kill everyone there so stuff like carpet bombing and what not is out of the picture but damn, I think it was a mistake showing the vampires using human weaponry.


Well first off, they don't have any of those guns. As you can see, most of the military equipment was taken by the vampires as soon as the apocalypse hit. That's why the humans barely have functioning jeeps.

Second. They could hit a vampire with millions of bullets, but it will never kill them. Every single person in the army has a weapon with some kind of enchantment on it, that's the only way to damage a vampire and be able to kill it. (for example: when kid Yuu shot Ferid in the head with the flintlock pistol. A lethal blow, but it was just a plain gun. Also when Yuu cut the arm off the vampire that attacked the school, the regular sword didn't destroy the body, hence when Guren stepped in and stabbed her).
 
May 30, 2015 9:07 PM

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Why not make demon enhanced guns
 
May 30, 2015 9:13 PM

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DAT SPOILER in the next ep preview -_-
 
May 30, 2015 9:47 PM

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Decent episode. I can't help thinking it makes no sense at all to block freaking bullets with those weapons though. No wonder I think this show could use a little more depth.

It would be much more believable and logical if their weapons gave them interesting powers, such as the ability to sustain a temporary force field that blocks regular projectiles. The weapons could also have specific powers, such as arrows that freeze everything around the area they land, maybe that dual wielding guy could become a little more agile than the others, that scythe could actually have a fire-related power, etc.

Then, make the overarching plot more detailed by exploring meaningful aspects of the current situation - the origin of the vampires, why they behave the way they do, what their beliefs are, etc. Instead of making everything look black and white, show more moral ambiguity. Now, we have the template for a great show as long as the budget is decent enough to fix the background and animation.

I mean, this is one of the few shows I'm still watching this season, but I see so much wasted potential in it that it's hard not to bring that up.
 
May 30, 2015 9:53 PM

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Wooooow, I need next episode now :(
Mika vs. Guren, I didn't expect that coming so soon.

Nice to see Guren's team, from the first impression I liked the long hair girl and the blond guy. The other two girls seem meh.
War is finally here, fights here and there, showing how Yu's team are working together was great. Sadly they've got separated. I really want everyone (Yu's team + Guren) to see the moment when Yu meets Mika.

Also, I am glad they've answered one of my biggest questions: Does Mika drink human blood? I was happy with the answer somehow but that means he can't live without Cruel :/
 
May 30, 2015 9:54 PM
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That stomach-turning, sinking feeling of dread when you turn on your favorite anime and see an airplane flying into a building that gives you flashbacks to 9/11

;A; Was NOT expecting that omg wtf really :/

and doping too? SMH
 
May 30, 2015 9:57 PM

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That cliffhanger nooo. Guren vs Mika next episode, by the looks from the preview Guren seems to be having some trouble.
 
May 30, 2015 10:44 PM

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At least it makes sense why an inexperienced group lacking teamwork was allowed out on their own. Guren's team was watching over them the whole time. Looks like they passed his test.
 
May 30, 2015 11:17 PM

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Why can't Guren be the protagonist of this anime ? :/

It would make this show better.
 
May 30, 2015 11:36 PM

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kyuudere said:
Why can't Guren be the protagonist of this anime ? :/

It would make this show better.


Because he's already the protagonist of the prequel LN series.
 
May 31, 2015 12:00 AM

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kyuudere said:
Why can't Guren be the protagonist of this anime ? :/

It would make this show better.


Because since 2000, the main character of a shonen manga cant be older than 20.
 
May 31, 2015 12:40 AM

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lol. Where'd the vampires get all the modern weapons?

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