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May 28, 2015 4:40 AM

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Good anime.

At least it's better than doing eat cookies things in K-ON.
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May 28, 2015 6:10 AM

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I was originally watching this for it's strange ability to make normal looking girls look incredibly cute. As well as mild interest in getting an inside story to band and orchestraic stuff in an anime/japan context...

But this episode was fantastic. I really wasn't expecting this much poeticness to the writing, and unusual interesting depths to characters. It is pretty delightful having unusually alive feeling characters. I'm particularly interested in Reina's character.

As i'm sure people have gone over and over, there definitely was yuri vibes from this episode haha.

(ps: why did all the people i met in school have to be so boring lol)
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May 28, 2015 6:14 AM

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Best episode so far!
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May 28, 2015 6:42 AM
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Fangz said:


Remember the SunFes episode where everyone was dismissing their school, because of how terrible they were previously? And then they surprise them by doing something modern and new? Remember the genesis of this project, that it isn't a commercial contract, but a not-very-popular book the director picked up in a store and wanted to make an anime of?

The fact that people assume that Kyoani can't do this, is to me the reason why I think they are gonna. I think the crew are working on this with such passion, and putting so much love into something that cannot be as successful as their more famed works, because the show represents a way for Kyoani, like the band in the show, to prove themselves as something special. What's the point of a passion project otherwise? They've put their intentions - a lesbian original ending - very clearly on the blackboard, and there's no chickening out now.


Your sources?


Okay, details slightly wrong, it was the producer not the director, but still.

http://a4chan.com/thread/121442653/sound-euphonium-interview.html

"I read a bit of the novel in a bookstore and decided to purchase it. As I continued to read, I felt myself getting pulled into the story. Since the 'High School Wind Music Club' theme was so fascinating and the location of the story was very near our company's location, I remember feeling like there should be a possibility that Kyoto Animation would animate this story. As I was thinking about approaching that, the producer for "Euphonium", (Eharu) Oohashi, was also thinking the same thing at the same time. (laughs) With that 'We have to have our company animate this!' feeling, we arrived at our plan. We presented our proposal to the publisher, Takarajimasha, gained their consent, and agreed to cooperate in various forms through the animation process."


And yeah, this is an unusual project for Kyoani. They are main producers this time and head the production committee, and also the production is unconnected to the novel publishers. There's no financial interest in selling copies of the novel.



Released in December 2013, Ayano Takeda's novel captured the interest of two producers at KyoAni, Eharu Oohashi and Riri Senami. They made a proposal and presented it to the publisher of the novel, Takarajimasha, who allowed them the rights to animate the novel. Again, this is unlike before. While KyoAni had adapted works from other publishers, they were either on the committee (Kadokawa) or the rights were requested by TBS. While the revenue sources aren't as large (due to not publishing the novel and owning copyrights), they still are larger than other productions.


https://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/kyoto-animation-and-their-evolution-march-2015-ver/

tl;dr: In the past it's always been Kadokawa Shoten (the book publishers) calling the shots, as the rights holders, and the animes were primarily advertisements for the books/manga. Or they were commissioned to make a show by Tokyo Broadcasting System, the tv station. For Eupho, Kyoani actually hold entirely the rights, and if they end with a 'read the book to continue the story', they don't get a single cent from books sold - nobody on the production committee does. This means the Eupho anime is its own thing in a way the other Kyoani shows aren't. So there's much more freedom to deviate from the plot, if they choose.
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May 28, 2015 7:00 AM

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-What about Madoka Magica, MSLNanoha (even their seyuu are NanoFate shippers), Noir, El Cazador, and a lot more series, they're full of yuri subtext even if there are no kisses, so it's not "It isn't yuri until they share a kiss", Maria-sama is one of the most important yuri anime and the character don't kisses each other.-
Yuri isn't just about "Get a room you two!", even between real people can exist a lot of types of particular connection that are different from friendship, consider a pair yuri or not is a very personal thing.

However, I'm glad that KyoAni is putting all this queerbait, or whatever it is, in Hibike!, and I'm not talking about just episode 8, because the interactions between Reina and Kumiko have been awesome since ep1.

I don't care that much about what will happen with Shuuchi and Taki (ah, seems that he's 34, rly?), I'm just hoping that this beautiful connection between the two girls doesn't stop here (it would be a pity, even people who don't ship them are enjoying this, right?).
I think that the perfect ending for Euphonium would be an open end, ShuuichixKumiko in 4 or 5 episodes would be really out of nowhere (at least for Kumiko), and then a 2nd series.

KyoAni isn't stupid and won't do anything that can cause an audience's decrease making people disappointed.
The most important thing is that Hibike! continue to be as wonderful as it has been until now, that's all. Enjoy this show as much as you can. -And ReiMiko's shippers, remeber that Kristoff could do nothing to stop ElsAnna's shippers, that beautiful fandom has continued to love ElsaxAnna ignoring him.-

We are already at 8th episode and there haven't been a focus on Midori and Asuka, and we don't know what happend to Kumiko (the flashback), or why Reina has choosen Kitauji, argh. Too few episodes remains, and there is still a lot to do qwq I want a 2nd series already xD

(I suck at english, I'm trying to improve, so I'm sorry for grammar mistakes and all).
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May 28, 2015 7:22 AM

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One of the pleasant surprises this season. This is getting better and better. Conversation between Kumiko and Kousaka was magnificent. Never expected it to be that good.
 
May 28, 2015 8:04 AM
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Let's check the genre of the original sources and compare it with the anime: They're both, slice-of-life, comedy and Musical.

Oops I don't see yuri or shoujo-ai there.

Get real! That is the concrete basis I'm talking about. You can hope that the tags will change but I doubt it will ever change, since this is Kyoani. ITS JUST BAIT.

I have yuri goggles myself but I don't trust it when used in non-yuri anime. It'll only break your heart and left you bitter.

Case close.
Like someone else said, tags are a rather weak proof, more so in a site where the ones putting them don't even need to know the source material.

That Kyoani is animating this is one of the "anime statistics" I'm talking about, but then a statistic will only point you to the most probable outcome, never to a definite answer. Not to mention that analysing the one making a work instead of the work itself is quite lamentable.

But regardless of that, you really are not reading what I'm writing. I'm not accusing you of being an homophobe, but a sexist. If you actually are reading well, I can only conclude that you think that if a woman is not a lesbian, then she is a weak person (or character) that needs a guy for guidance and purpose.

Even if we took the tags seriously, the lack of a "yuri" or "shoujo ai" tag does not imply a "male cauvinist pig" demography tag.

EDIT:Now that I think about it, excluding lesbians from the judgement would kinda make you a weird kind of sexist... Perhaps to depart from conventions of the term, "bigot towards heterosexual women" might be more descriptive.
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May 28, 2015 8:23 AM

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Kumiko and Shuichi get together in the latest volume. But we're only covering the first volume so it's not like we'll see it.
 
May 28, 2015 8:53 AM

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Kumiko and Shuichi get together in the latest volume. But we're only covering the first volume so it's not like we'll see it.


Lies!!

 
May 28, 2015 9:28 AM

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Homophobes, LOL, that's the third times. So funny still.


If three people called you a homophobe in the space of just a few days then you shouldn't be laughing, you should be stepping back and looking at why you're getting called that. You're obviously doing something homophobic, especially since some of the people (I know this for definite, since I'm one of them) that said it aren't straight.
 
May 28, 2015 9:38 AM

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Hayst, here we go again, just when I'm just finished saying I'll comment again after episode 9.

What proof do you want? A source that say's not all tags are true? well, if I can't, then can you proof to me if tagging can be always be wrong?

I never watched the other's that are not yuri except Ange.

Ange is one of my favorite so let's talk more about that. As far as I know that you hated Tusk more tha anyone else in the series and dismayed of what happened, Ange is never yuri. You don't need to teach me regarding yuri/shoujo=-ai as primary and secondary element etc, I knew already. Smart-kun

Ange was not tagged yuri coz the yuri only involves around the side characters. So it's rightfully tagged as not yuri.

When I talked about tags, it talks about the anime as a whole so quit using Ange maybe Saki as part of the argument. It's yuri if the MCs are into yuri. If not, then it's not. Simple as that

I'm not fond of using long lines and paragraph to prove something. I rely on common sense, based on what I see and how I analyze it. Yuri in this is all subtext that can't even be proven. As far I know and heard, it'll never be what you think it would be, same as you have done in Ange back then. HAhahah.

Let's just wait for the last episode ok? Because we both might look like idiots after all the logical defense we did and in the end , it did not go as we wanted it. Hehehe.. like what happened in Ange.. ahahahha.

Let's quite this talk, and wait. coz episode 9 will be far more interesting.. IMHO. Smart-kun.

Again episode 9.... next week.


Woah...... someone really needs to learn reading, comprehension AND logical thinking.

Go back and read what I said in my previous post. I picked up examples and sources from both wiki and MAL to back up my argument that even different sites, who have different people writing their articles for them, have different criteria for judging the same subject (in this case, an anime). My point was and still is that you cannot base your argument of what an anime does or does not have simply based on tags, and that a tag for an anime does not mean it does not have any other elements and genres which were not tagged along with it.

You have been basing your arguments on the fact that "because it isn't tagged in the source (which you have yet to even provide to us here), thus it absolutely cannot have said element (in this case, the possibility of yuri) in the show. I simply pointed out to you that your argument is fatally flawed, kind of short-sighted, and I forgot to add quite subjective on your part.

You say you use common sense to analyze a show, and yet you fail time and again to elaborate and further your "common sense".

Going back to Ange, the example I used. IF you actually read and understood anything that I wrote in that anime's forum, you would understand my disdain for the male lead wasn't because I appreciated Yuri more than other genres. Nope, my issue with the show is that they utilized such a weak, useless male character who lacked development, was nothing short of a comedic train wreck who only knew how to trip and faceplant upon the female lead's conveniently naked crotch every three or four episodes, and took an unbelievable amount of inexplicable ass-pulls on the part of the director just to come back alive in the last two episodes "For Plots Sake". Essentially the beta whom you call Tusk was a detriment to the entire show, which was seriously awesome up until the point where he showed up.

As for the Yuri, which you keep on denying. There were so many blatant elements of girl-on-girl and girl-with-girl action in Cross Ange, I'm amazed how oblivious you seem to STILL be to it. The female lead was caught in compromising situations with other female characters numerous times, and in some instances initiated it. And yet you are denying what was probably 60% of the show on the basis that "In the end it was the beta male who got with the kickass female lead"? I can despair at your tunnel vision.

Considering the fact that Ange was tagged as Mecha, your "common sense" dictates that you deny every other genre which was in the show (including the Tragedy, the action, the fantasy, and I guess what ended up as a half-assed romance). To put it in simple terms for you to understand "That's pretty fucked up, man."

By the same argument, you placed Akuma no Riddle in the Yuri pile. Yet considering how the two main leads did nothing Yuri-like, and that all the "Yuri" tendencies and moments were dictated by the supporting characters (a point which you deny as having anything to do with the tag).
That doesn't hold up to your analysis basis, bar the fact that you are saying it is so simply because there's a Tag there that states it is so.
You state that both MC's have to be into Yuri for a show to be Yuri, and yet for Akuma no Riddle, neither MC was into the other like so. Neither Haru nor Tokaku were into one another in "That way". Tokaku viewed Haru as her purpose for survival (to protect her), and Haru's view was pretty much the same. They were intimately close to one another, but they weren't intimate WITH one another. In fact I would put their relationship on a similar level to the one Kumiko and Reina are developing. Then again, you would first have to state your personal definition of Yuri first before any comparisons could be made, now wouldn't you?

And why the heck should I have to wait till next episode for anything?
First of all, I'm not shipping anyone. In fact I stated my view pretty early on that this shipping stuff is ridiculous and I'm quite opposed to it.

Secondly, what would next episode, or heck even the end of this series, prove? Frankly, I don't give two damns about whether the romance elements are going to develop in one direction or the other. I don't mind Yuri, and I'm not opposed to decent male leads who can actually act like a proper male lead. Those two things aren't what I'm watching this show for anyway.

As such, whatever happens next episode, there's nothing I can be right or wrong about, because IF you actually read and understood what I was saying the first time around, I don't have an opinion on pointless "ships".

What I don't like about what's been happening in this forum, is the fact that people like you are creating a hostile, insulting and toxic atmosphere for the rest of us who simply want to enjoy the show as it was billed, and in your case "Tagged", to be: The Drama, Music and School elements. And no, Drama doesn't always equate to Romance (specifically since it wasn't "Tagged" like you so adamantly stick to). Frankly speaking, I like this show a lot for what it was "Tagged" to be, and I think it deserves more respect than to become some toxic "Shipping Battle" arena that you seem to be promoting.

Friendly word of advice: Learn to read, comprehend and actually analyze objectively and with an open mind, rather than spewing out mindless, trolling insults and acting like a turd. Being polite may actually take you places.

I could probably write up a mildly insulting post, but I really can't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
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May 28, 2015 9:53 AM

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Sorry, but I simply can't like Shuuichi. He is boring as fuck. In fact, I'm somewhat happy that he rejected Hazuki, I didn't see them as a couple from the start (I hope that she gets over it though).

Midori is too cute for my soul, I'm starting to understand K-ON! fans.
 
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Wrong. It's not Kyoani LN like Chuu2koi or Kyoukai. They only bought rights to animate it. Episode and whole adaptation is very faithful anyway.

And Hibike belongs to Kyoani, so its in the same boat.
And no, i'm not going to believe random people on the internet as to whether its faithful or not.

I doesn't belong to them. They aren't publishers of novel. Also story was faithful so far so they won't change it suddenly.
Calm your tits.
 
May 28, 2015 11:30 AM

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Whoa this has to be one of the best KyoAni episodes in years! Also Kousaka is breathtaking, I love everything about her. :)
 
May 28, 2015 11:53 AM

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I love Yuri and I love this episode.

But come on people, calm down. This show isn't about Yuri nor the main plot is about Love. This is just a character development that lean toward a bond between two girls who surprisingly just found themselves fit one another.

The Love in here isn't about "making baby". Reina is a solitary person and people can't understand her nor she want to be part of them anyway. But then she finds Kumiko to be the person who can understand her and the person who she can share her story with. For a person who have lived in a solitary life until now, in a sense, this is Love.


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May 28, 2015 11:59 AM

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Evilest yuribait in history has fans in a heated argument...


Seriously though. Given the studio's track history and the fact that
I wonder how the relationships will look at the finale.
 
May 28, 2015 1:00 PM
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I dropped this show after watching episode 4.

Has it gone full lesbian yet?
 
May 28, 2015 1:22 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I know it's a lost battle as those idiots incapable of understanding the first time still won't understand it even if it's spammed in their faces, and a**holes who ignore it will continue to ignore it.

Nonetheless, I feel like a reminder is due.
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May 28, 2015 1:46 PM

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Pretty much my reaction to this ep.
 
May 28, 2015 2:13 PM

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man, the last posts has been a frenzy XD

 
May 28, 2015 2:20 PM
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What's with all the stupid spoilers. The anime is changing things. I've read several times that a lot of Shuichi was cut in the anime, making him a side character with barely any importance. So if suddenly Kumiko starts liking the boring guy just because it happens in the novel even though, both anime and novel are differen and until now, Kumiko hasnt show interest in him (actually the opposite) you would find it ok? That would only be bad writting and would just ruin Kumiko's character. Why cant people understand this is THE ANIME. And the story has to flow according to what THE ANIME shows.
 
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Homophobes, LOL, that's the third times. So funny still.


If three people called you a homophobe in the space of just a few days then you shouldn't be laughing, you should be stepping back and looking at why you're getting called that. You're obviously doing something homophobic, especially since some of the people (I know this for definite, since I'm one of them) that said it aren't straight.




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Have a nice day.




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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I know it's a lost battle as those idiots incapable of understanding the first time still won't understand it even if it's spammed in their faces, and a**holes who ignore it will continue to ignore it.

Nonetheless, I feel like a reminder is due.


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May 28, 2015 2:33 PM

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Jeez, i've seen people saying that this is faithful to the novel and some who say that they changed things. Can't trust anyone in here. :P

But hey, KyoAni did it again, they and Hibike! are one of the hot topics of this season again, it seems.
 
May 28, 2015 2:37 PM

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Bewitching. And quite profound. Being complimented for having a bad personality is rather awesome.

A really atmospheric episode, loved it.
 
May 28, 2015 2:41 PM

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Hatzuki was very very adorable this episode.

With her bursts when they talked about Suichi. From wearing a skirt for the first time outside her uniform. She put everything on the line this episode.

I just cant believe Suichi rejected her.
 
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Hatzuki was very very adorable this episode.

With her bursts when they talked about Suichi. From wearing a skirt for the first time outside her uniform. She put everything on the line this episode.

I just cant believe Suichi rejected her.


She was rushing too much. She could have ask him if what Kumiko is for him then confess right after.
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May 28, 2015 4:58 PM

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Imeon said:
ooo333 said:
Hatzuki was very very adorable this episode.

With her bursts when they talked about Suichi. From wearing a skirt for the first time outside her uniform. She put everything on the line this episode.

I just cant believe Suichi rejected her.


She was rushing too much. She could have ask him if what Kumiko is for him then confess right after.
I think it is just the type of character she is. Even if she was to follow thing step by step, Suichi isn't going to change his mind either way.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
 
May 28, 2015 5:41 PM

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Fantastic episode, especially the ending duet. Loved the animation, and confession scene.
 
May 28, 2015 5:51 PM

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The yuri ship is too powerful. I really do enjoy the interactions between Kumiko and Kousaka,

Was quite surprised Hazuki did all that in a single episode, shows tend to drag it out and go into some drama triangle. Glad it didn't.
 
May 28, 2015 5:53 PM

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was not expecting yuri...

but that was a lovely duet. favorite episode so far.
 
May 28, 2015 7:19 PM

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The only thing i could think the entire episode was

OH.MY. GODDDDDD

All the Kumiko/Kousaka was 100% perfect. And that duet at the end, I cant possibly ship them more now. Other than that it so pleasant to watch. KyoAni you are winning in visuals. Im glad they dont abuse the chromatic aberration as much as first episodes.
 
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I was already somewhat spoiled in another forum and I know I can be a total douche sometimes but the lack of understanding for the need to use spoiler tags in this thread has been too much to take even for someone like me.

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I was already somewhat spoiled in another forum and I know I can be a total douche sometimes but the lack of understanding for the need to use spoiler tags in this thread has been too much to take even for someone like me.



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I was already somewhat spoiled in another forum and I know I can be a total douche sometimes but the lack of understanding for the need to use spoiler tags in this thread has been too much to take even for someone like me.



Sooo. Basically what you're saying is Kumiko realizes her own self-worth thanks to Kousaka then realizes *gasp* that she likes her childhood friend instead.

I don't understand.
 
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Sooo. Basically what you're saying is Kumiko realizes her own self-worth thanks to Kousaka then realizes *gasp* that she likes her childhood friend instead.

I don't understand.


A lot could have happened in the novel. It could have given Kousaka the idea that Kumiko have always liked Shuichi. Kumiko didn't noticed it since they're been very "close". eg in Tamako.
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^ In Tamako Market, I was shipping the male neighbor with Midori >__>

So you still shipping the female MC with Suichi?
 
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^ In Tamako Market, I was shipping the male neighbor with Midori >__>

So you still shipping the female MC with Suichi?


Many were shipping Midori with Tamako while you trying to ship Mochi with her? Wow!

Yes, I still ship, coz it's a soild ship.
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I'm just here to say that MAL tags don't mean anything. This apparently isn't yuri either.


Anyways, I think yuri shippers should keep their expectations low but it's not like there is no chance for a happy ending, or at least an ambiguous one which is probably the best we can hope for. It wouldn't be the first time KyoAni changed the original source. In the Chuuni LN, Nibutani joined Yuuta's harem and Dekomori didn't even exist. And now those two share KyoAni's like only kiss ever.

Don't know if it was said here already but their duet was called "The Place we Found Love" or something like that.
 
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Reina is really interesting, I didn't like her much at first but she has really grown on me with the unique way that she acts and speaks.

I think it was heavily implied that Reina likes Kumiko in a romantic way.
Besides the things she said:
- she smiled to herself when Kumiko said she was not thinking about Shuuichi
- the way she moved her finger down to Kumiko's lips

Though it doesn't necessarily mean that anything more will happen in future, could well just be misleading like others have said.
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May 29, 2015 2:15 PM
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Wow...this week, this anime jumped about 500 places in ranking and it's not hard to understand why. I absolutely loved this episode. Reina looked gorgeous! Her speech, her talk with Kumiko, them geting together as they once did. It was just perfect. The shoujo-ai hints are just hints (i think) and their relationship will not be a loving one but a big friendship that I think it grew a lot stronger "today". Hazuki getting her hopes shreded was kind of sad but Suichi really likes Kumiko. This is going to be extremely interesting. :)
 
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I really wasn't enjoying this anime but this episode was fantastic in every single way
 
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I wish KyoAni would actually go through with a shoujo ai romance. But alas...
 
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I wish KyoAni would actually go through with a shoujo ai romance. But alas...


If they can give us more screen-scrolls like this, then I am all game for an anime original ending. I mean Reina is probably the most beautiful girl KyoAni has ever animated.
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mwsmws22 said:
I wish KyoAni would actually go through with a shoujo ai romance. But alas...


If they can give us more screen-scrolls like this, then I am all game for an anime original ending. I mean Reina is probably the most beautiful girl KyoAni has ever animated.


Probably if they still did not draw the next episodes and decided to listen to the cries and flipped the original 360 degrees.
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I feel like what makes this an authentic portrayal of lesbian relationship as opposed to a yuri show's portrayal - which fantasizes it - is having the inclusion of a male character who shows interest in Kumiko. This provides a contrast between Kumiko's apathy with guys (shuichi and obliviousness taki sensei's attractiveness as pointed out by Hazuki) and her flustered interactions with Reina. This setting places her in a realistic world in which guys are going to show interest in her, and allows her confront her sexual preference and the confusion of that identity. Being a teenager and seeing that everyone she knows has an attraction toward the opposite gender, it's a challenging task to understand yourself. I feel like this sort of depiction is something we would actually see in real life.
What makes those two an interesting pair is that Kumiko is a very apathetic person that has potential to embrace a passion of hers, which we get to see more and more of as she becomes more committed to her practice. Whereas Reina is very adamant and confident in her goal to be special and chase her passion since the beginning. Reina sees glimpses of her in Kumiko and wants to peel back kumiko's facade and have kumiko embrace herself. What I would like to see more of is what was catalyst that made the difference for Kumiko to become more passionate about life and concert band between elementary and highschool.
Asuka is also an interesting character that's more than meets the eyes. There have been hints of her being disinterested in other people such as rejecting leadership to lead others and detaches herself from others with her self-absorbed attitude such as her sitting far from the rest of the group during their section practices. She's in it for herself and uses the concert band to better herself in the euphonium. Her delegation as the comedic relief provides more about her personality than just that. Perhaps she is unable to bring herself to be serious with others because she fears emotional commitment to others.
Ultimately this show is kind of like a character study, that delivers on a variety themes such as what motivates people, whether it be reward or passion or camaraderie. The writing of the plot isn't the deepest or most intricate and the characters aren't the richest, but it is the storytelling/directing by KyotoAni that allows this show to truly shine. For what they've been given they have articulated it as beautifully and as eloquently as possible.
The convincing realism that's shown through the attention to detail of the body language, the shot framing, the setting/set pieces. The atmosphere of a dynamic living breathing world inhabited by side characters that can all stand on their own and NOT having the setting confined to the insular bubble of a main cast inhabiting a 4 person club that's common in your typical "cute girl doing cute things" club show. The ability to dodge tropes by giving these "moe" girls the audacity to talk about romantic relationships and to confess/reject without dragging things out in standard anime fashion. These are all qualities that makes this show stand above the rest in this genre and honestly has revolutionized the club show genre somewhat in my opinion. The directing is probably as good if not better than Hyouka, and this is probably kyotoani best produced show to date.
 
May 30, 2015 4:08 AM

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I really love Reina! All those scenes with Kumiko in this episode were a masterpiece, too bad Reina x Kumiko won't happen...
 
May 30, 2015 4:49 AM
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Kousaka looks absolutely and positively other wordly beautiful in this episode. KyoAni can make characters look like a million bucks the way few other studios can.

Having said that...why Kumiko? She's just so plain in every way possible. Reina could have a special relationship with so many people.

Let's see where this goes though. I think at the end, this is all about the music.
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May 30, 2015 6:49 AM

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Imeon said:
shanimebib said:


If they can give us more screen-scrolls like this, then I am all game for an anime original ending. I mean Reina is probably the most beautiful girl KyoAni has ever animated.


Probably if they still did not draw the next episodes and decided to listen to the cries and flipped the original 360 degrees.


Ahmm... If you do a 360 degrees, you end up with the original. I think you intended to say 180 degrees instead. Regardless, now that I know which ship sunk and which ship reached the shore, any degrees our Captain KyoAni decides to steer the ship is fine by me. I am more or less always prepared and ready to board any ship which has Captain KyoAni in command. ;)
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May 30, 2015 7:26 AM

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I haven't been the biggest fan of this show, but this episode was breath taking, and I definitely see how they could go the Yuri route with this, it was so gay...

Feel bad for Hazuki though. But seeing mini Sapphire made my day!
 
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