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May 15, 2015 6:54 AM
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Overall, a pretty fun battle imo with some heavy damage this episode including Fate. I still thought the major point/climax was probably involving Einhart again.



Second half was more amusing with the girls catching up after their fight. Einhart definitely feels quite welcoming after that.
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I don't know why they didn't add any differentiating features to SLB: Shift Phantom Strike from say... any SLB in existence but considering all the new hairs added this episode (I have trouble defining them in any other way) defining features seem to be lost cause. Also the fights weren't very... good.

Moving on.

Corona rocket punch, Corona best. deal with it.

The rest was fun too, Corona still Cute, and the best girl was spotted drinking tea while pumping Iron like a true Lady of the house.
May 15, 2015 10:09 AM
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Finally, some of the DSAA participants have appeared.
May 15, 2015 10:31 AM
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Reinforce II in loli form!
Hayate X Reinforce II shipping anyone?
"Widowed at the age of ten, Hayate managed to raise their daughter, only to be kabedon'd by her."
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May 15, 2015 10:39 AM
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I wonder, who voices Chantez (she sounds very familiar) and who will voice Zieglinde
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
I wonder, who voices Chantez (she sounds very familiar) and who rill voice Zieglinde

Unfortunately, I cannot read kanji, but their names are listed in the credits.
May 15, 2015 1:07 PM
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For those who don't know, episode 6 covered from the end of volume 2 to the first quarter of volume 3. This episode covered the rest of volume 3 and showed a little bit of the beginning chapter 18, which is featured in volume 4.
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
I wonder, who voices Chantez (she sounds very familiar) and who rill voice Zieglinde


Chantez: Kana Asumi
Harry Tribeca: Yumi Uchiyama
Victoria: Aya Endo
Sieg: Mari Nakatsu
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ck12 said:

Chantez: Kana Asumi
Harry Tribeca: Yumi Uchiyama
Victoria: Aya Endo
Sieg: Mari Nakatsu

Thanks.

So, I really read Kana Asumi and the kanjis weren't wrong, huh? Well, I already guessed it since she sounds like Kana Asumi.

Yumi Uchiyama. I read the "yama", but couldn't figure out what the first kanji was. And her voice is deep, so it's definitely her (lol).

Aya Endo. I knew I've heard of that voice.

Mari Nakatsu... who? I just looked up she's from Osaka. Well, Sieg has a kansai dialect for no reason.

By the way, who voices Edgar, Mia, Linda and Luka? Edit: I already figured out who voices them.
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Let me introduce you these five waifus:
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Man I didn't excepted this

May 15, 2015 5:29 PM

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Man I didn't excepted this



Is that the real translation? It should be "Critical hit by Erio before SLB Impact" Fate still has some hitpoints before SLB hit her.

Besides that, It's Vivid. That riot form change-up was a convenient way to get Fate to show more skin when the clothing damage comes.
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I spotted Els's early cameo appearance.

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Kana Asumi, no wonder she sounded familiar. And Nanami's seiyuu as Sieg. I'm waiting to hear it.
May 16, 2015 1:35 PM

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Finally, the ace more relevant than Fate has appeared (in ViVid, of course).


A wild tanuki appears!
Einhard is confused!
May 16, 2015 2:19 PM
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MajinAkuma said:
Finally, the ace more relevant than Fate has appeared (in ViVid, of course).


A wild tanuki appears!
Einhard is confused!


The best ace. Tanuki or no tanuki.
May 17, 2015 12:32 AM

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Today, the world ended.

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The Wolkenritter finally show up! I'm a bit upset because Signum looks a bit iffy and weird. but either way, glad to see her again <3
Looking forward to the IM.
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The Wolkenritter finally show up! I'm a bit upset because Signum looks a bit iffy and weird. but either way, glad to see her again <3
Looking forward to the IM.
i feel the same way.
Am i the only one here, that think vita looks a bit taller?
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Reinforce II in loli form!
Hayate X Reinforce II shipping anyone?

this one pretty good shipping, and also rein had been gone into hayate's body for a few times (maybe more than we have seen)
May 17, 2015 8:18 AM

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jonjoy said:

TYxTxYT said:
Reinforce II in loli form!
Hayate X Reinforce II shipping anyone?

this one pretty good shipping, and also rein had been gone into hayate's body for a few times (maybe more than we have seen)


Rein had the most Unisons. She has fused with Hayate, Signum and Vita.
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MajinAkuma said:
jonjoy said:


this one pretty good shipping, and also rein had been gone into hayate's body for a few times (maybe more than we have seen)


Rein had the most Unisons. She has fused with Hayate, Signum and Vita.

and i think, she had the most unison with hayate, than signum or vita.
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Am i the only one here, that think vita looks a bit taller?


The Vivid anime has been terrible with character sizes. It's very inconsistent. At one time, they showed her only half a head smaller than Signum...When in reality, I'm not even sure if Vita reaches her bust.
May 17, 2015 11:59 AM

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First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.
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uran10 said:
First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.


Remember that Nanoha was power capped for this fight (she couldn't use as maximum power output), so Teana and Nanoha probably had around the same output.

As maximum, yeah Nanoha would obviously wipe the floor with Teana, but also could have taken on the ENTIRE other team by her self lol.
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uran10 said:
First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.


I don't know what the kids's ranks would be, but I'm sure everyone had limiters capped at A rank at maximum.

(Also Teana is S rank in Vivid)

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Remember that Nanoha was power capped for this fight (she couldn't use as maximum power output), so Teana and Nanoha probably had around the same output.

As maximum, yeah Nanoha would obviously wipe the floor with Teana, but also could have taken on the ENTIRE other team by her self lol.


Teana is power capped too. Really, Nanoha's not as far ahead of everyone as you think. She's had trouble vs. any two non-lolis. Einhart and Vivio were probably two of the weakest in that mock battle. All of the old cast would trump them. Except for maybe Caro. And Nanoha can't use SLB unless everyone completely ignores her until she's able to charge it.

Vivids also a poor representation of power, and so is that mock battle. I mean Nanoha freakin used a Starlight Breaker using the blaster system, and Fate didn't even use one of her weaker skills. Photon Lancer Phalanx Shift or Plasma Zamber Breaker..Where? She didn't even throw out an arc saber.

In the sound stages, it was said that Signum, Fate and Nanoha were so close in power that the result of one of them fighting each other would change on any given day.
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uran10 said:
First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.

Teana's Breaker wasn't stronger. Nanoha was already damaged while Teana had full life. Both received probably the same damage, but Teana had more life left than Nanoha when both were charging up their Breakers. Also, Starlight Breaker is an attack that doesn't need the strength of the user; it gathers mana from the battlefield.
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Hayate appear. Want to see more of her and Signum.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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May 17, 2015 9:57 PM
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I'm excited for this Inter-Middle tournament! Can't wait to see more cute girls and flashy fast-paced epic battles! :D

But why do Reinforce II and Agito no longer have tiny bodies? Both of them are now as big as normal girls. :o
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Hayate appear. Want to see more of her and Signum.

Hayate is more relevant than Fate, so no problem with her. Unfortunately, Signum is the least relevant Wolkenritter when in comes to on-screen appearances in ViVid. But you might be hyped to see what techniques Miura has learned from her.

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But why do Reinforce II and Agito no longer have tiny bodies? Both of them are now as big as normal girls. :o

Reinforce Zwei and Agito have the abilities to shift their size. They already could that in the StrikerS Sound Stages.
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MajinAkuma said:
uran10 said:
First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.

Teana's Breaker wasn't stronger. Nanoha was already damaged while Teana had full life. Both received probably the same damage, but Teana had more life left than Nanoha when both were charging up their Breakers. Also, Starlight Breaker is an attack that doesn't need the strength of the user; it gathers mana from the battlefield.

Good point

Can't wait for the tournament
May 18, 2015 3:37 AM
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Oh, finally Victoria appears.
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The fight was fun. I liked it. Hopefully the story picks up soon.
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By the way, Vivio is a "shotoclone". (And a literal clone.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h60apLOUbA0
Vivio would be the "Ken", as she is mostly a Shoryuken fighter. Spoilers below!
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neonie said:
uran10 said:
First of all allow me to call BS on Teana out starlight breakering the original starlight breaker. Other than that it was an alright episode. the last one was better.


Remember that Nanoha was power capped for this fight (she couldn't use as maximum power output), so Teana and Nanoha probably had around the same output.

As maximum, yeah Nanoha would obviously wipe the floor with Teana, but also could have taken on the ENTIRE other team by her self lol.


Also, it was only Blaster 1. A pretty far cry from the Blaster 3 that trashed Quattro.
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Remember that Nanoha was power capped for this fight (she couldn't use as maximum power output), so Teana and Nanoha probably had around the same output.

As maximum, yeah Nanoha would obviously wipe the floor with Teana, but also could have taken on the ENTIRE other team by her self lol.


Also, it was only Blaster 1. A pretty far cry from the Blaster 3 that trashed Quattro.


If Nanoha used blaster 3 in a mock battle, I would question her intelligence. It does serious damage to her linker core. Nanoha only uses that out of desperation, it's not something she can use casually, especially not in a mock battle. It's bad enough that she used Blaster 1 in the mock battle. The Blaster system is an experimental booster that far surpasses the physical limits of the user's body. It gives a momentary power boost at the cost of damaging the users linker core and their body.
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Killuan said:

If Nanoha used blaster 3 in a mock battle, I would question her intelligence. It does serious damage to her linker core. Nanoha only uses that out of desperation, it's not something she can use casually, especially not in a mock battle. It's bad enough that she used Blaster 1 in the mock battle. The Blaster system is an experimental booster that far surpasses the physical limits of the user's body. It gives a momentary power boost at the cost of damaging the users linker core and their body.


Exactly.
The only characters who really went full out were the four children. Everybody else was holding back, especially Fate. Though, Nanoha obviously overdid it already, as Blaster One is already unhealthy for her.

Subaru didn't use her IS. Teana didn't use her Fake Silhouette. Caro and Lutecia didn't summon their companions. And Erio didn't used his lightning spells. And Nove also held back as well. If everyone would go out, they might even break the injury simulator, especially Nanoha and Fate may be able to do that.
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Killuan said:

If Nanoha used blaster 3 in a mock battle, I would question her intelligence. It does serious damage to her linker core. Nanoha only uses that out of desperation, it's not something she can use casually, especially not in a mock battle. It's bad enough that she used Blaster 1 in the mock battle. The Blaster system is an experimental booster that far surpasses the physical limits of the user's body. It gives a momentary power boost at the cost of damaging the users linker core and their body.


Exactly.
The only characters who really went full out were the four children. Everybody else was holding back, especially Fate. Though, Nanoha obviously overdid it already, as Blaster One is already unhealthy for her.

Subaru didn't use her IS. Teana didn't use her Fake Silhouette. Caro and Lutecia didn't summon their companions. And Erio didn't used his lightning spells. And Nove also held back as well. If everyone would go out, they might even break the injury simulator, especially Nanoha and Fate may be able to do that.


for the summons, in the last battle, we can see garyu and fried join the battle.
May 18, 2015 12:23 PM

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for the summons, in the last battle, we can see garyu and fried join the battle.

Yeah, but that doesn't count.
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So its a draw huh. Really want Team Fate to win but its okay. Maaaan i missed Hayate and co tho.

And ohhhhhhhhh Kana Asumi, oh yes.
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I'm a little bit disappointed that they left out the little gem between Megane and Quint.
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MajinAkuma said:
By the way, Vivio is a "shotoclone". (And a literal clone.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h60apLOUbA0
Vivio would be the "Ken", as she mostly a Shoryuken fighter. Spoilers below!


Vivio just love face bashing so much.
A pity it doesn't do much damage.

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Nanoha obviously overdid it already, as Blaster One is already unhealthy for her.


Hmmm, I remember Blaster One is already considered a "stable mode"?
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Hmmm, I remember Blaster One is already considered a "stable mode"?


It's not stable, but it's relatively safe if used for short periods of time. Still, the blaster system is designed to surpass the physical abilities of the user, so it seems unnecessary to use it in a mock battle.
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Killuan said:
TYxTxYT said:


Hmmm, I remember Blaster One is already considered a "stable mode"?


It's not stable, but it's relatively safe if used for short periods of time. Still, the blaster system is designed to surpass the physical abilities of the user, so it seems unnecessary to use it in a mock battle.
maybe nanoha want to keep her dignity, and doesn't want to lose to teana's SLB. lol
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One of the better episodes so far imo. This inter-dimensional magic battle tournament sounds pretty cool. Although with the age limit...does that count when they transform? It seems to me that, when Vivio transforms, she becomes older than 19, but I'm not sure exactly.
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One of the better episodes so far imo. This inter-dimensional magic battle tournament sounds pretty cool. Although with the age limit...does that count when they transform? It seems to me that, when Vivio transforms, she becomes older than 19, but I'm not sure exactly.


Her real age is the only thing that matters. Her ability to appear older and gain additional power because of it is one of her skillsets. Similar to how you're able to bring a golem into the tournament if your skill is...controlling a huge golem.
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One of the better episodes so far imo. This inter-dimensional magic battle tournament sounds pretty cool. Although with the age limit...does that count when they transform? It seems to me that, when Vivio transforms, she becomes older than 19, but I'm not sure exactly.

You can read the DSAA Inter-Middle thread in this forum if you want to know about more details.
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Her real age is the only thing that matters. Her ability to appear older and gain additional power because of it is one of her skillsets. Similar to how you're able to bring a golem into the tournament if your skill is...controlling a huge golem.

That's right. Vivio doesn't become an actual adult/teenager when she transforms; she modifies her body age, but what really matters is the official age.
We don't even know Vivio's real age because she is a clone. And we know that Fate is much younger than 23.
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And we know that Fate is much younger than 23.

Not really, since Alicia's death is 26 years prior to Season1.
So it is possible that Fate is actually was "grown" into a human being.
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Fate was "born" the same age Alicia was when Alicia died.
If you watched movie 1st, you would see that from the flashbacks. This would make her 19 years old as of Vivid.

However, it's unlikely they factor this into her real age and just go by Alicia's age so she would be right around the same age as Nanoha in Vivid, 23 years old.

Yeah, 25 in Force, but that hasn't happened yet by the Vivid timeline.
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MajinAkuma said:
Noodle070 said:
One of the better episodes so far imo. This inter-dimensional magic battle tournament sounds pretty cool. Although with the age limit...does that count when they transform? It seems to me that, when Vivio transforms, she becomes older than 19, but I'm not sure exactly.

You can read the DSAA Inter-Middle thread in this forum if you want to know about more details.
Killuan said:

Her real age is the only thing that matters. Her ability to appear older and gain additional power because of it is one of her skillsets. Similar to how you're able to bring a golem into the tournament if your skill is...controlling a huge golem.

That's right. Vivio doesn't become an actual adult/teenager when she transforms; she modifies her body age, but what really matters is the official age.
We don't even know Vivio's real age because she is a clone. And we know that Fate is much younger than 23.


Alright, thanks for the help! Good to have some people familiar with this season share their knowledge! :) And yeah now I can definitely see how transforming into an older person is a skill than an age-limit breaker, thanks! ^^
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