| With the growing rate of technology, and the growing popularity of e-books, scans, and piracy, do you think books will become obsolete in the future? I hope it doesn't but in today's world it is cheaper to buy books on a tablet or kindle or whatever people have these days. I like reading an actual book and like having print books, especially for all my Manga. What do you think guys? |
ssjtkMay 12, 2015 5:22 PM
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| Na, they may decline in certain genres like "Young Adult" for example, but they aren't going anywhere. Humanity is aware that digital technology can't be preserved. |
| I hope not. |
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| I hope not. I prefer purchasing and reading proper books, I'm not into that whole Kindle scene at all. Plus new books and old books smell really good, so I would miss sniffing my books while reading them. |
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| I doubt it, while technology is booming we've used paper and ink for centuries now to record and teach. Sometimes you can't beat a physical version with it's virtual counterpart. Beyond them being more accessible as they don't need electricity to be used, those who cherish written works will no doubt preserve them for historic purposes. |
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| I only read manga online when it's not licensed in North America and there is no other way to read it. |
| Thinking of you, wherever you are. |
| I doubt it. There will always be an interest for physical books. It's obviously impossible to imagine what will happen down the line, but I'm pretty sure that physical books will stick around for many hundreds of years to come, in some form or another. |
MidnightLPA said: Na, they may decline in certain genres like "Young Adult" for example, but they aren't going anywhere. Humanity is aware that digital technology can't be preserved. |
| Someone, somewhere will continue to produce, purchase, and preserve books in some form. Even if you don't hear about it. Plus there are billions of books in homes and such, it would be a time consuming and difficult process to track them down and dispose of them all. |
| There's a flawed assumption that people who consume literature or "print media" just like words and will take them in any format. Some people are like that, and they readily switch to digital mediums. However, there's a large contingent who actually enjoys the book for being a book. Index, paper pages, binding type, font style, letter spacing.. All of it plays into the enjoyment of the work. They seem like minor things, but they do make a difference. Your favorite anime could be a radio play. From a broad view it's the same thing - but.. it's not. The same goes for books and the words inside of them. A great story is a series of words, but a good book is a great story well-presented. The context matters. |
| Also - economic factors. The same "book" costs less in digital format. Significantly less. Actually printing a book costs very little. The lost revenue between actual-book and eBook is shocking to see. People don't see strings of data as having much worth. They thus pay less, and the whole industry makes less money. A book is seen as having value as a physical item. And it's not the same as music. Ownership and value in music in tied to the ability to hear it - which really isn't different if it's a CD/Tape/mp3. Going digital cuts out a physical item that's not seen as having value and not integral to the presentation/experience. Not to mention the paying for songs you don't want on a physical album. Books aren't sold in box sets with 1 Harry Potter amid a dozen cheap romance novels. |
| Only untill the day a solar or man made even makes all the little kindles go up in smoke. In terms of record keeping short of via incompetent clerks, it will never go away however. Paper has proven invaluable at this task. |
| I hope not. Books >>>>>> e-books |
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| I'm glad you changed the title from "extinct" lol But no man that's never gonna happen. Books have been around since forever, and I don't think they are going anywhere. |
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Dojourei said: I'm glad you changed the title from "extinct" lol But no man that's never gonna happen. Books have been around since forever, and I don't think they are going anywhere. lol yeah, I used poor choice of words XD |
| Thinking of you, wherever you are. |
| Not as long as I am still around |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Nah, I don't think so; there are still many people who prefer buying physical copies of books, myself included; I own around 600 books right now. I haven't seen a decline in paperbacks/hardbacks, but more of a rise on how to purchase physical copies online, whilst book stores have a tendency to struggle. |
| I'm pretty sure they will once this generation dies off. Publishing physical books is a lot more expensive with all the manufacturing that comes with it. And most book sales are greatly exaggerated I mean do people really buy the whole "OMG IT WAS A NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER!" nonsense? The only reason books get that dumb "award" is because when compared to the other 4 crappy books that were released that week that one didn't suck as much. Digital is the way of the future and nothing will ever change that. And digital books can be preserved in any fucking hard drive. Even if the internet stopped working the books will still be in the hard drives. |
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Democracy said: I'm pretty sure they will once this generation dies off. Publishing physical books is a lot more expensive with all the manufacturing that comes with it. And most book sales are greatly exaggerated I mean do people really buy the whole "OMG IT WAS A NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER!" nonsense? The only reason books get that dumb "award" is because when compared to the other 4 crappy books that were released that week that one didn't suck as much. Digital is the way of the future and nothing will ever change that. And digital books can be preserved in any fucking hard drive. Even if the internet stopped working the books will still be in the hard drives. One well placed EMP just wiped out your theory. |
| Who the fuck is gonna randomly EMP the entire world? It's not like the only people with access to all the books ever made are in the US. |
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Comic_Sans said: Not as long as I am still around if I see your font in another book, I swear I will eradicate you from every book and convert you to Times Romans OT no because books feel better than looking at screen |
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| ...Fucking hope it doesn't |
Democracy said: Who the fuck is gonna randomly EMP the entire world? It's not like the only people with access to all the books ever made are in the US. Future wars will be digital. I have a hard time picturing future civilizations attempting to read our digital historical documents on their future formatted technology. Sure we can keep updating and transferring it but that would mean we'd need to stick around to do that. |
| books are already obsolete nobody reads that shit, stop acting like you do |
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MidnightLPA said: Democracy said: Who the fuck is gonna randomly EMP the entire world? It's not like the only people with access to all the books ever made are in the US. I have a hard time picturing future civilizations attempting to read our digital historical documents on their future formatted technology. Sure we can keep updating and transferring it but that would mean we'd need to stick around to do that. I have a hard time picturing future civilizations knowing where the few remaining libraries are. The only reason teens know what a library is these days is because they have one in their school and even then they barely touch it, or anything that they cant see in their phones and tablets. .-. |
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incisorr said: books are already obsolete nobody reads that shit, stop acting like you do We're sorry that you're illiterate. |
Moog- said: I doubt it. There will always be an interest for physical books. It's obviously impossible to imagine what will happen down the line, but I'm pretty sure that physical books will stick around for many hundreds of years to come, in some form or another. Agreed. I love reading books, it's a very different experience than watching a movie or even reading off a computer screen. |
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| Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"? That's what will happen when society relies on tech and the books are gone. |
MidnightLPA said: Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"? That's what will happen when society relies on tech and the books are gone. It's a comedy movie, there's a movie about a guys dick jumping out of his body because he was a man whore. That's just as likely to happen. |
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MidnightLPA said: I thought that movie talked about the US.Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"? That's what will happen when society relies on tech and the books are gone. |
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| unfortunately, yes. |
Democracy said: MidnightLPA said: Has anyone seen the movie "Idiocracy"? That's what will happen when society relies on tech and the books are gone. It's a comedy movie, there's a movie about a guys dick jumping out of his body because he was a man whore. That's just as likely to happen. It's exaggerated but highly plausible. The dick guy however...I hope is not highly plausible. Kinkara said: I thought that movie talked about the US. We'll be first. |
| No, I believe companies like google and amazon are 'backing' up digital texts to print form because its obviously a more stable storage medium so I'd say print media is not going anywhere. |
| No but trees will |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: No but trees will They will if hipsters keep chopping them down for books they'll never touch after the first week. |
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Feaor said: No, I believe companies like google and amazon are 'backing' up digital texts to print form because its obviously a more stable storage medium so I'd say print media is not going anywhere. Exactly. There are entire facilities backing up history on hard copy paper all over the world. Everyone here spends their lives using technology. How can you all not feel that technology is too unreliable to preserve our history? |
| I sure hope not |
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MidnightLPA said: Feaor said: No, I believe companies like google and amazon are 'backing' up digital texts to print form because its obviously a more stable storage medium so I'd say print media is not going anywhere. Exactly. There are entire facilities backing up history on hard copy paper all over the world. Everyone here spends their lives using technology. How can you all not feel that technology is too unreliable to preserve our history? How is ink and paper any more reliable though? if there's a flood or fire in the building they're gone too. |
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Democracy said: TheConquerer said: No but trees will They will if hipsters keep chopping them down for books they'll never touch after the first week. More like if Macdonalds stop grazing down huge huge areas of rainforest to use as grazing land and then fail to replant it. Seriously thats the main reason the rainforest is disappearing not because of paper which is ridiculous. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: No but trees will Yeah, I don't like oxygen either^^ |
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| If there's a gap in civilization after mass war, disease or famine (as there has been many times before), I just hope the first person climbing out of a hole can find a power supply, fire up that old Apple, connect it to WiFi that still works for whatever reason, and teach their new civilization lessons about how Books used to exist. |
| Nah, the only thing that would become obsolete are e-books. Seriously, I fucking hate sitting through long hours to read on a fucking screen. No paper smell, no paper scratching, no paper turning, no bookmarks. |
Haruhi ism  It's fun, isn't it? |
Grubelgrub said: TheConquerer said: No but trees will Yeah, I don't like oxygen either^^ Open Land= Cash We destroy rainforests and we get land to farm all our cattle on. Think about we can make money and once oxygen starts depleting we can charge that too! Its the perfect plan! |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: Grubelgrub said: Yeah, I don't like oxygen either^^ Open Land= Cash We destroy rainforests and we get land to farm all our cattle on. Think about we can make money and once oxygen starts depleting we can charge that too! Its the perfect plan! I know, I actually study this at university level^^ But the most important thing about destroying rainforest is the destruction of the ecosystems there. It will take a lot more than that for us to actually get oxygen problems, due to the forest elsewhere (e.g. the boreal forest belt). Some countries actually have an increasing amount of forest :) But still, I agree that the distruction of rainforest for cattle and soy production is devestating (can't stress that enough). |
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MidnightLPA said: If there's a gap in civilization after mass war, disease or famine (as there has been many times before), I just hope the first person climbing out of a hole can find a power supply, fire up that old Apple, connect it to WiFi that still works for whatever reason, and teach their new civilization lessons about how Books used to exist. If there's a World War 3 you better wish people take care of the servers instead of a reinforcing a library's walls. As if that will do any good when the bombs start dropping. |
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| Probably they will in the future. It make me glad that I, most likely, won't live to see a news headline reading "see the man with the last physical book on Earth". |
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Democracy said: You obviously still have that problem with Digital storage but you also have issues with failure and corruption along with general deterioration, its overall a less stable storage medium, even when talking about Magnetic Tape, but its obviously more space efficient.MidnightLPA said: Exactly. There are entire facilities backing up history on hard copy paper all over the world. Everyone here spends their lives using technology. How can you all not feel that technology is too unreliable to preserve our history? How is ink and paper any more reliable though? if there's a flood or fire in the building they're gone too. |
Grubelgrub said: TheConquerer said: Open Land= Cash We destroy rainforests and we get land to farm all our cattle on. Think about we can make money and once oxygen starts depleting we can charge that too! Its the perfect plan! I know, I actually study this at university level^^ But the most important thing about destroying rainforest is the destruction of the ecosystems there. It will take a lot more than that for us to actually get oxygen problems, due to the forest elsewhere (e.g. the boreal forest belt). Some countries actually have an increasing amount of forest :) But still, I agree that the destruction of rainforest for cattle and soy production is devestating (can't stress that enough). Yeah I know but I don't think we can fix the eco-system, we've ruined it so badly its just not what it was anymore. Then again I amn't some kind of authority on this so I cant say for certain. You trying to become an ecologist? |
| I've been here way too long... |
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