| Greetings. This idea is probably going to get shot down by many other forum regulars, but I'd still like to put it out there and see any possible reasonable points for or against it. It all focuses on what is displayed and what not in the posts made on the forums. In this thread, I suggest removing some additions to posts that I personally find unimportant. Yeah, this thread might be a bit different than most others, as the majority tends to recommend even more features over removing the current ones to keep the outcome as simplistic as possible. Forums are supposed to be a place where discussions are held. I like to emphasize that over any extra glitter and such. Therefore, I'll keep it short. × What I want to see stay/exist Hyperlinked username Forum avatar Online status × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date I am aware that there is already the option to hide signatures individually and I am using it. But there is none for the Join date and Post count. Furthermore, this suggestion is supposed to be global, not individual. Thank you for reading; please, do share your thoughts on the matter. |
| Why don't you hide join date and post count via Stylish/Adblock? Does it really matter that others see it? |
| How would you hide Join date and Post count via AdBlock? You are aware that AdBlock works in the way to cut off scripts that are identified in front, correct? I fail to see how the display of the two is any work of an open path script. Stylish could do, but I prefer to keep them off for various reasons. |
| You're right, it's not possible for adblock. Anyway it's just 2 lines of text, not a big deal. |
Akarin said: Why don't you hide join date and post count via Stylish/Adblock? Does it really matter that others see it? It does because post count can often lead to low-quality posts as some people are more interested in raising it than making interesting posts. It also leads to garbage threads like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1364111 |
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| Veronin, even without post count there will be the same amount of garbage threads. Someone just wants attention, while post count is just a number. |
| ^ I'm confused, what do you think it's so messy right now? o.o Well, honestly I don't see a problem with how it is now but either way it's fine, I don't really pay attention to the number of posts and such but I can definitely see you point when you say people just post random stuff to raise their number... |
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vodall said: It's already very minimal, but I definitely agree. It's kind of a mess right now, and the signatures aren't helping. They could at least disable images in them..? I don't really find signatures that distracting myself, they can't be overly large. The forum design is already pretty clean. |
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Subpyro said: × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date Please no |
LunarProxy said: vodall said: It's already very minimal, but I definitely agree. It's kind of a mess right now, and the signatures aren't helping. They could at least disable images in them..? I don't really find signatures that distracting myself, they can't be overly large. The forum design is already pretty clean. they aren't that large, the max height is 150px, don't see them really making a mess out of the forum |
| "In the past few months since we met, I've shared many memories with Nagato. Though I've also shared memories with Haruhi, Asahina-san and Koizumi, I found that I've experienced more events with Nagato in particular. In fact, every situation seems to involve her. I might as well mention this, she's probably the only person to cause the bell within me to shake the most vigorously..." ~ Kyon, TMOSH |
| Nvm, just ignore my previous post. If it's the option to hide those things then I support, removing them entirely is out of the question. |
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Roth said: Nvm, just ignore my previous post. If it's the option to hide those things then I support, removing them entirely is out of the question. I actually support that too. While I don't personally use it, it can speed up loading times and such for users, especially on mobile. I've seen it in use on a few other forums here and there. |
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Subpyro said: × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date Over my dead body. I see more people getting angry if you remove signatures than that of people being happy with it. And I see no point hiding Join Date. Again, I use the join date + post count on the forums too much to determine whether an account can be an alt or not. All in all, no thank you. |
TyrelMay 12, 2015 12:39 PM
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| I don't see there's any logical reason as to why you'd want Join Date and Post count removed. Tyrel said: Subpyro said: × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date Over my dead body. |
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JD2411 said: forums would be a lot better without signatures though. Only image signature should go since they're pointless. Text signatures can advertise clubs. And join date leads to discrimination and post count leads to spamming Personal tastes, with us being in agreement. But as said in the OP, I very well anticipated this suggestion not to be overly well accepted by the masses. For everyone who has asked for reason(s), it says right in the OP: to reach minimalism. You may call it little, but little on little makes a lot. As little as possible makes minimalistic. Which brings me back to the point that this thread was created to express a suggestion based on a personal preference, as well as me foreseeing the type of replies exactly as they have gone down. In case anyone is wondering "what the hell is this guy thinking". |
mayukachan said: One problem fixed. Thank you for carefully reading the OP: Subpyro said: I am aware that there is already the option to hide signatures individually and I am using it. But there is none for the Join date and Post count. Furthermore, this suggestion is supposed to be global, not individual. |
| Oops, my bad :S Only read main points. |
| No issue. :) Then again, it makes me wonder why I have created this thread in the first place. I knew what the outcome was going to be and that there won't be anything drawn from it in the very end. I guess I just wanted to voice something, knowing that any type of suggestion, with the probability of being executed in the end high or not, is accepted and not against the board rules. So yeah, wasn't really looking for a revolutionary movement here, but I guess you could say that I was/am searching for like-minded people. |
| I don't think the forum needs to be minimalist, and as you said most would probably not like those changes(especially the two lines, it just seems pointless, and we have the hide signature feature which hides it for yourself, no need to do it for everyone just because you think it would look nicer). So I think you should just get a stylish theme made for you and the few others who would like this |
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| You clearly missed the point of my previous post. |
vodall said: I usually feel the same way when I post here, so don't let it get you down. It's about making your voice heard rather than immediately changing things. Oh trust me, I don't feel down one bit. I've been active in this community for long enough to know exactly where to put pressure on to get some actual results. Likewise for seeing the general picture of potential and how things might change and how not. So no need to worry about me there. If I were to put up a suggestion that would aim for something concrete and real, it would have been with a different approach all together. You could say that I'm bored of it as it all feels so... understood and in a sense, under control. That's why I create such threads on every so. Out of boredom, yet keeping to the guidelines and everything. Which is also the reason for my decrease in general activity on the website as I prefer new things and experiences, blah, blah, blah. You get the point and are probably not interested anyway. |
SubbedMay 12, 2015 3:06 PM
Subpyro said: I didn't even read your previous post.You clearly missed the point of my previous post. |
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IntroverTurtle said: I didn't even read your previous post. Yeah, I figured. |
Veronin said: It does because post count can often lead to low-quality posts as some people are more interested in raising it than making interesting posts. It also leads to garbage threads like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1364111 It's easy to ignore them and participate only where it matters for you... |
| Like Minded People? That's the point right? :v Well anyways to your point. Your not going to find anyone with this preference unless they really... REALLY want things Minimalized. But no. This is perhaps in the minority. Why Because things are simple as shit already with all the restrictions that are in place right now. People advocate for larger sigs etc. I know your trying to just Minimize things and not hint that Post count/join date are bad because of Insecurity and speculate reasons like Veronin. Just look at this babble: Veronin said: It does because post count can often lead to low-quality posts as some people are more interested in raising it than making interesting posts. It also leads to garbage threads like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1364111 |
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Tyrel said: Damn straight.Subpyro said: × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date I see more people getting angry if you remove signatures than that of people being happy with it. |
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| What does removing signature help to improve the forum? Anyway about the number of post being removed doesn't matter for me, everyone have the right to speak their mind here |
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| remove avatars and formatting on the page too hell even take away usernames it's not minimalistic to keep those things if you're removing sigs, join date/post count btw this is satire, your idea is retarded and I don't agree with it |
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| I feel ignored. I think the main complaint is some users don't like signatures. I definitely think it's a minority, but the option to hide signatures under settings would work fine. I've seen it done before. If you don't like sigs, you can just hide them with that option, while not actually removing the signature feature from the (assumed) majority. |
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| i agree with removing the joined date and post count in the forums, it will be very helpful and its a redundant feature anyway since the profile section have the post count and joined date infos anyway but signatures should stay |
LunarProxy said: If you mean me, I honestly have zero opinion on post count. I see post count related threads, but I wouldn't call it so much as an issue a small annoyance. As for signature, which some people don't like, I'm all for keeping, but have no issues with user-side removal. Just not server-side. No, I was referring to pretty much all replies except for Tyrel's and maybe one more who actually pose a reason. Not that I agree with him. If the Post count and Join date help the forum mods determine whether an account is an alt or not, they could feel free to have the feature up for themselves. I don't see why the community would be forced to have something for the sake of moderation convenience. But yeah, not like the community is "forced" or something if the majority dislikes the suggestion in the first place, but it's pretty shitty to see all the replies without a backbone whose argument for disagreeing is just "because others don't like it either". Elaborating something is not the strongpoint, clearly. |
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Agafin said: Immahnoob said: Quote chains piss off OP. Well, it's kind of understandable since that makes most users here look like sheep. I've truly never understood why some people want to artificially increase their post count with such vapidness. Is there a reward to that? They might as well just create private clubs and spam them all day rather than polluting serious threads. ^My thoughts about post count. Needless to say that I'm totally for this. I don't care about signatures, I guess if people here want them then let them be, I usually hide them when I don't want to be distratced or embarrassed by some of the stupid images people put there (especially the NSFW ones which the mods seem to not care about). Tyrel said: Again, I use the join date + post count on the forums too much to determine whether an account can be an alt or not. All in all, no thank you. You can still check those informations on their profile, they'd just not appear on the forums like now and the advantage will be that less people will care about boosting their post counts since they've got less exposition. I honestly think that the number of one or two liners as well as the "+1" replies and other forms of spam will reduce (except when relevant like in games ofc). |
AgafinMay 12, 2015 10:30 PM
Agafin said: Of course I can. I'm just saying it makes it easier doing so than clicking on their profile 24/7. Plus I'll never know if they're a new user if the post count + join date is removed from the Forum. For all I know they could be a user with 1000+ posts despite not looking like it.Tyrel said: Again, I use the join date + post count on the forums too much to determine whether an account can be an alt or not. All in all, no thank you. You can still check those informations on their profile, they'd just not appear on the forums like now and the advantage will be that less people will care about boosting their post counts since they've got less exposition. |
TyrelMay 13, 2015 12:26 AM
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| I agree that doing this wouldn't be a good idea. There's a limit to how minimalistic one should make something; some information is simply too important/useful to remove. Plus as Tyrel stated already, the backlash to this would be far too great for obvious reasons. |
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Veronin said: Akarin said: Why don't you hide join date and post count via Stylish/Adblock? Does it really matter that others see it? It does because post count can often lead to low-quality posts as some people are more interested in raising it than making interesting posts. It also leads to garbage threads like this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1364111 "Some people" is not "a majority of users", and either way the most active section of this forum is Forum Games, where posts do not increase the post count. Actually I would be into making it an individual choice. Some sort of script to hide join date or post count. As a global change, no. The problem is not that a change towards a more minimalistic layout is bad, if anything, it is that the current alternative is good and functional enough. So this strikes me as arbitrary and unneeded, if not necessarily detrimental, that would probably take some additional work to implement and some people would not like, either aesthetical or functionally. |
jal90May 13, 2015 5:39 AM
Tyrantarmy6 said: I agree that doing this wouldn't be a good idea. There's a limit to how minimalistic one should make something; some information is simply too important/useful to remove. Care elaborating how the features listed in the OP are too important for removal? I do not believe they are; I believe further minimalism could easily be achieved for some users without a single drawback. Argument your point, that's what I want. |
TyrelMay 13, 2015 2:57 PM
| This reminds me of when i was young and cared about how others thought of me, thinking a higher post count would look cool :D I don't think it needs to be removed, if people enjoy the content they make even if it is stupid them let them be, we or you can simple ignore it. |
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| We should just remove MAL from the internet |
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| Huh there was a post in here that said I didn't tolerate change? Huh I was seriously going to just destroy that notion. Since I do (for some changes). And the notion everyone should tolerate every change is primitive thinking.. well deleting that reply shows how ridiculous it was.. Anyways... Muto-Hikaru said: More speculation mate? This reminds me of when i was young and cared about how others thought of me, thinking a higher post count would look cool :D I don't think it needs to be removed, if people enjoy the content they make even if it is stupid them let them be, we or you can simple ignore it. j0x said: i agree with removing the joined date and post count in the forums, it will be very helpful and its a redundant feature anyway since the profile section have the post count and joined date infos anyway but signatures should stay Jox I know you mean well. But there are things on our profile that are also in our panel. So does it also make it redundant? Subpyro said: × What I want to see stay/exist Hyperlinked username Forum avatar Online status × What I want to see removed Forum signatures Post count Join date Why don't you include the forum avatar to the Things to remove? Its inconsistent to minimization and also seems self defeating to not add those since the Forum avi takes up more room than post count and join date combined. |
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| Why not just removed the avatars and signatures in the forum settings? |
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Suzune-chan said: Because he for some reason thinks that they are useless and having them gone would improve the experience for everyone.Why not just removed the avatars and signatures in the forum settings? |
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IntroverTurtle said: What I thought It was minimization? If its to improve the forums then that's a bit farfetched.Suzune-chan said: Because he for some reason thinks that they are useless and having them gone would improve the experience for everyone.Why not just removed the avatars and signatures in the forum settings? It might solve their insecurities. So lets do it! Now we can have a more proper/improved discussions! Yay~ |
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Rasco said: j0x said: i agree with removing the joined date and post count in the forums, it will be very helpful and its a redundant feature anyway since the profile section have the post count and joined date infos anyway but signatures should stay Jox I know you mean well. But there are things on our profile that are also in our panel. So does it also make it redundant? ye remove all redundant features on MAL as much as possible, the forum post and joined date is just the most obvious redundant feature on the forums so thats why i agree to remove them and SubPyro is a staff member on AniList so maybe he wants that kind of forum minimalism, here is an example thread on AniList -  |
j0x said: Why didn't they specify this example from the start? Anyways yeah I can see their point of Minimization. But if its to improve the forum discussion you won't get far with that point. But Join date, post count and signatures are features on mal that users like and are not insecure about having. For example you like signatures so you know what I mean. Unless you really want to migrate to Anilist..Rasco said: Jox I know you mean well. But there are things on our profile that are also in our panel. So does it also make it redundant? ye remove all redundant features on MAL as much as possible, the forum post and joined date is just the most obvious redundant feature on the forums so thats why i agree to remove them and SubPyro is a staff member on AniList so maybe he wants that kind of forum minimalism, here is an example thread on AniList - |
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j0x said: It makes sense when you say it like that, but why would he want to make the competition imitate a site he works for? If there are people who care about this thing then that would be a pull factor he is taking away from the site.Rasco said: Jox I know you mean well. But there are things on our profile that are also in our panel. So does it also make it redundant? ye remove all redundant features on MAL as much as possible, the forum post and joined date is just the most obvious redundant feature on the forums so thats why i agree to remove them and SubPyro is a staff member on AniList so maybe he wants that kind of forum minimalism, here is an example thread on AniList - rasco said: btw not to play devil's advocate here, but yes. If it is on the panel and on the profile it is redundant. I sometimes question the panel's features. That is beside the point though.Jox I know you mean well. But there are things on our profile that are also in our panel. So does it also make it redundant? |
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