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May 9, 2015 8:45 AM
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Othi-tan said:
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chanting most of UBW instead of the last line was pretty silly.

At least they showed analysis of weapons. And no explanation on why UBW collapsed.
That's exactly like the VN.
Cant say anything about the others without subs.

No...He only says Unlimited Blade Works in the VN. The rest is picked up by Shirou. But we can't have him having any internal thoughts, so.
 
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UBW CGI sucked
I imagined something like this
http://i.imgur.com/Vr5uw.jpg
 
May 9, 2015 8:46 AM

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astroprogs said:
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UBW to freshen your memories


Now how is this not look awesome?


Only sky and swords look good.

The ground and the character blending looks awful as fuck especially in movement.

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UBW CGI sucked
I imagined something like this
http://i.imgur.com/Vr5uw.jpg


YESYESYES.
 
May 9, 2015 8:46 AM

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CookingPriest said:
This brings me strong dejavu to the first cour "bd will fix it all!" attitude.

It's more than justified this time, though. The amount of the "officially" announced cut minutes are high for each past episode.
 
May 9, 2015 8:46 AM

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Insertanamehere said:
Othi-tan said:
That's exactly like the VN.
Cant say anything about the others without subs.

No...He only says Unlimited Blade Works in the VN. The rest is picked by Shirou. But we can't have him having any internal thoughts, so.


He says 3 lines.

I am the bone of my sword, unknown to death no known ot life, UBW ---- in VN
 
May 9, 2015 8:47 AM

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Curry-Priest said:
UBW CGI sucked
I imagined something like this
http://i.imgur.com/Vr5uw.jpg


Thus the highlight has been destroyed ;_;
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May 9, 2015 8:48 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
It's very different. Shirou didn't just summon Caliburn and destroy everything in his path with it. He copied each sword and collided them to destroy both, which is kind of foreshadowing for the final fight in the series. Well yea, it could have been better.

The only bad thing about it is that it isnt like in the VN.Shirou projecting a single sword and swinging it to destroy one incoming sword is better than suddenly using sword spams.


The two things not making sense in the scene is Archer projecting inside UBW(what a waste of mana) and firing single swords at Shirou.It's more like a test than actually trying to kill him.
 
May 9, 2015 8:49 AM

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The pacing will be better if they end the episode with Archer kidnapping Rin.
 
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The lack of sieba flashback was most disturbing
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May 9, 2015 8:49 AM
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nocorras said:
He says 3 lines.

I am the bone of my sword, unknown to death no known ot life, UBW ---- in VN

Oh right, must be confusing it with Answer....or something.
Did he say the full chant or just the three here?
 
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Insertanamehere said:
Othi-tan said:
That's exactly like the VN.
Cant say anything about the others without subs.

No...He only says Unlimited Blade Works in the VN. The rest is picked up by Shirou. But we can't have him having any internal thoughts, so.

nocorras said:
Insertanamehere said:

No...He only says Unlimited Blade Works in the VN. The rest is picked by Shirou. But we can't have him having any internal thoughts, so.


He says 3 lines.

I am the bone of my sword, unknown to death no known ot life, UBW ---- in VN
 
May 9, 2015 8:50 AM

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WrongPriest said:
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Now how is this not look awesome?


It looks fine when it's not moving lol

Hmmm. I'll need a rewatch to judge it well.

Curry-Priest said:
UBW CGI sucked
I imagined something like this
http://i.imgur.com/Vr5uw.jpg

The ground looks better, but pretty much everything else looks inferior to this episode's UBW.
 
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mira-nyan said:
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I was talking about DEEN. Where Shirou basically did EVERYTHING with Caliburn.


Site it. :I


Never mind, you are right. He didn't defend with one sword. He used two, a black and a white one. /s
 
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Insertanamehere said:
nocorras said:
He says 3 lines.

I am the bone of my sword, unknown to death no known ot life, UBW ---- in VN

Oh right, must be confusing it with Answer....or something.
Did he say the full chant or just the three here?

Only those 3.
 
May 9, 2015 8:51 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
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Site it. :I


Never mind, you are right. He didn't defend with one sword. He used two. /s
A freaking Jedi Master in Deen's version.Lol at Giant Ass sword.
 
May 9, 2015 8:51 AM

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astroprogs said:

The ground looks better, but pretty much everything else looks inferior to this episode's UBW.


The only thing looking better in the ep than in psvita op is the clouds.

The lightning, the ground, the swords, the character blending everything ismiles above.
 
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I dont want to see the last fight. It will be worse than DEEN.
 
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The lack of BroLancer is depressing.
UBW didn't make as much of an impact as I'd expected.
Not a bad episode, nonetheless. Subs should clear up stuff.
 
May 9, 2015 8:52 AM

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The lack of sieba flashback was most disturbing


It happened. It was probably the only thing that wasn't rushed.


Mai pairing!TT_TT
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Curry-Priest said:
I dont want to see the last fight. It will be worse than DEEN.


TEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *SFX*SFX*SFX
 
May 9, 2015 8:53 AM
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mira-nyan said:
Mickdrew said:
The lack of sieba flashback was most disturbing


It happened. It was probably the only thing that wasn't rushed.

? It lasted all of two seconds lol.
 
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Insertanamehere said:
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It happened. It was probably the only thing that wasn't rushed.

? It lasted all of two seconds lol.


I think that's mira's point tbh.
 
May 9, 2015 8:54 AM

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WrongPriest said:
That was a scary 15 Minutes without Lancer.

Mickdrew said:
The lack of sieba flashback was most disturbing

You people...
You don't judge an episode based on these petty reasons.

 
May 9, 2015 8:54 AM

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Curry-Priest said:
I dont want to see the last fight. It will be worse than DEEN.


Actually "reeling in" being translated to "teleporting" makes sense in ufo context. How else is UBW going to be
later on?

By buffing
ufo is forced to buff UBW as well.
 
May 9, 2015 8:55 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
Curry-Priest said:
I dont want to see the last fight. It will be worse than DEEN.


Actually "reeling in" being translated to "teleporting" makes sense in ufo context. How else is UBW going to be
later on?

By buffing
ufo is forced to buff UBW as well.


That was projection, there was absolutely 0 difference between the SFX used in UBW and the swords projected last episode. Maybe if they made it red or something or at least slightly different.

There's no reason to think that was different magic.
 
May 9, 2015 8:56 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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? It lasted all of two seconds lol.


I think that's mira's point tbh.


It was. It's not supposed to be long. Just a quick flashback cuz situation.

I'm 100% sure Ponytail and Wakame were the highlights of the episode ~.~
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With "buff" i mean the fact that



I repeat, stop using VN NP lore here. It was clearly shown that it is handled different here. Gae Bolg, God Hand and even Gate of Babylon. All 3 are different from VN. Why is it such a "shock" now that UBW is too?
 
May 9, 2015 8:58 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
Curry-Priest said:
I dont want to see the last fight. It will be worse than DEEN.


Actually "reeling in" being translated to "teleporting" makes sense in ufo context. How else is UBW going to be
later on?

By buffing
ufo is forced to buff UBW as well.
The fight will be like:
But with better clouds and more rushed

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May 9, 2015 8:58 AM
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WrongPriest said:
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Actually "reeling in" being translated to "teleporting" makes sense in ufo context. How else is UBW going to be
later on?

By buffing
ufo is forced to buff UBW as well.


That was projection, there was absolutely 0 difference between the SFX used in UBW and the swords projected last episode. Maybe if they made it red or something or at least slightly different.

There's no reason to think that was different magic.

Actually given UBW is supposed to be faster than GOB to begin with it's not unreasonable to assume they can teleport, since it'd be pretty silly and a serious disadvantage if they have to fly over from far away when the local area gets cleared out.
 
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Grey-Zone said:
With "buff" i mean the fact that
No.
Only the swords in the ground dont cost mana.What Archer did in the ep should have wasted mana.

Or you mean that this will be different in the anime?
 
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CookingPriest said:
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The ground looks better, but pretty much everything else looks inferior to this episode's UBW.


The only thing looking better in the ep than in psvita op is the clouds.

The lightning, the ground, the swords, the character blending everything ismiles above.

Are you sure about this? I mean look.


The lighting in ufoUBW is FAR superior. As a result the blending is much more realistic.
The swords look MUCH more detailed and better looking overall.
The ground isn't as good, though, i agree.
 
May 9, 2015 8:59 AM

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mira-nyan said:

I'm 100% sure Ponytail and Wakame were the highlights of the episode ~.~

Yup ^^
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Othi-tan said:
Or you mean that this will be different in the anime?


yes, just like Gae Bolg, God Hand and Gate of Babylon.


Seriously UBW absolutely MUST be buffed, else the ending really will be an asspull.



But I have to agree with the CGI being not so nice. I hope it will look better in the BD version...
 
May 9, 2015 9:00 AM

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astroprogs said:
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The only thing looking better in the ep than in psvita op is the clouds.

The lightning, the ground, the swords, the character blending everything ismiles above.

Are you sure about this? I mean look.


The lighting in ufoUBW is FAR superior. As a result the blending is much more realistic.
The swords look MUCH more detailed and better looking overall.
The ground isn't as good, though, i agree.


yes I am sure. the lightning in vn part fits the tone and feels artistic.

The one in ufoubw feels artificial and does not mesh with character models.
 
May 9, 2015 9:01 AM

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astroprogs said:
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The only thing looking better in the ep than in psvita op is the clouds.

The lightning, the ground, the swords, the character blending everything ismiles above.

Are you sure about this? I mean look.


The lighting in ufoUBW is FAR superior. As a result the blending is much more realistic.
The swords look MUCH more detailed and better looking overall.
The ground isn't as good, though, i agree.


Realistic =/= Good. Quite the opposite, infact. It ruins the point of it being an 'anime'. And it plainly doesn't fit.
The swords look detailed at first. But then Archer suddenly fires copies of the same one sword, rather than showing off his glorious collection. :I
The first is objectively better.
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May 9, 2015 9:02 AM

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Everything looks good, the only thing that doesn't is the ground.
 
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Grey-Zone said:
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Or you mean that this will be different in the anime?


yes, just like Gae Bolg, God Hand and Gate of Babylon.


Seriously UBW absolutely MUST be buffed, else the ending really will be an asspull.
I think only the animation of Gae Bolg was different.

For GH I really dont see the difference even in the interviews and GoB teleporting Shinji was stupid yeah...
 
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Othi-tan said:
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yes, just like Gae Bolg, God Hand and Gate of Babylon.


Seriously UBW absolutely MUST be buffed, else the ending really will be an asspull.
I think only the animation of Gae Bolg was different.

For GH I really dont see the difference even in the interviews and GoB teleporting Shinji was stupid yeah...


Archer was nerfed so much ever since the VN was released, it's time for him to get a buff for once.

GH is different because the resistence builts up different from the VN. VN had almost "instant" near-immunity to weapons that killed Heracles, but in anime the resistence raises proportional to the damage, or something like that according to one of the interviews with Nasu.
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CookingPriest said:
yes I am sure. the lightning in vn part fits the tone and feels artistic.

The one in ufoubw feels artificial and does not mesh with character models.

That's subjective. I totally disagree.

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Realistic =/= Good. Quite the opposite, infact. It ruins the point of it being an 'anime'. And it plainly doesn't fit.
The swords look detailed at first. But then Archer suddenly fires copies of the same one sword, rather than showing off his glorious collection. :I
The first is objectively better.

While realistic doesn't always equal good, here it magnifies how a reality marble is its own reality.
The extreme lighting change for the UBW color scheme adds to that effect IMO.

Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.
 
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astroprogs said:

The extreme lighting change for the UBW color scheme adds to that effect IMO.
Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.
But at the same time it doesnt make sense to project new swords instead of using the ones in the ground...
 
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Othi-tan said:
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The extreme lighting change for the UBW color scheme adds to that effect IMO.
Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.
But at the same time it doesnt make sense to project new swords instead of using the ones in the ground...


Which, again depends on UBW's mechanics, which are not necessarily the same as in the VN.

Until it's stated otherwise, I will stand by my "free swords for everyone" headcanon.
 
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The UBWrealtaNua is far better than UBWufo
 
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astroprogs said:
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yes I am sure. the lightning in vn part fits the tone and feels artistic.

The one in ufoubw feels artificial and does not mesh with character models.

That's subjective. I totally disagree.

mira-nyan said:
Realistic =/= Good. Quite the opposite, infact. It ruins the point of it being an 'anime'. And it plainly doesn't fit.
The swords look detailed at first. But then Archer suddenly fires copies of the same one sword, rather than showing off his glorious collection. :I
The first is objectively better.

While realistic doesn't always equal good, here it magnifies how a reality marble is its own reality.
The extreme lighting change for the UBW color scheme adds to that effect IMO.

Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.

In the end it's just opinions. But it's far easier for Archer to project in UBW, and the only way he would be wasting prana would be by keeping it intact. But, yeah, I guess that makes sense.
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May 9, 2015 9:12 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
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But at the same time it doesnt make sense to project new swords instead of using the ones in the ground...


Which, again depends on UBW's mechanics, which are not necessarily the same as in the VN.
I get that.But we have to get confirmation from Nasu first.

I dont really care.It will even make more obvious how Archer is so low in mana later.It's just that...the swords in the ground look like decorations thanks to that change.
 
May 9, 2015 9:12 AM
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astroprogs said:

While realistic doesn't always equal good, here it magnifies how a reality marble is its own reality.

wat?

Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.

Ehm, I mean, if he did project, which is what I believe Mira is saying, not that I necessarily believe that, then it would be a massive waste of mana, actually.
 
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Othi-tan said:
astroprogs said:

The extreme lighting change for the UBW color scheme adds to that effect IMO.
Archer firing copies of the same weapon makes sense, since he wants to conserve mana. Showing off would look cool as hell, but from the lore stand point it makes little sense.
But at the same time it doesnt make sense to project new swords instead of using the ones in the ground...

True, but projecting generic swords is really cheap, it's almost free.
 
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Curry-Priest said:
The UBWrealtaNua is far better than UBWufo


well one is canon while other is CP-level AU so yeah.

astroprogs said:
Othi-tan said:
But at the same time it doesnt make sense to project new swords instead of using the ones in the ground...

True, but projecting generic swords is really cheap, it's almost free.


Why would you project INSIDE UBW?
"I have these 0 prana cost swords all around me, lemme project those 10prana swords instead"

With this UBW is nothing more than a pretty scenery.
 
May 9, 2015 9:14 AM

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Nasu said:
The one Nasu-to-Miura request I made was: "Please change the Noble Phantasms"
 
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Had hit me earlier: several Servant wars had raged starting the night and going over into dawn, and not a single human in the vicinity noticed?
Until well into morning, long after the Church was demolished.
 
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He should've used his magic mind powers and levitated the swords. ~.~


I'm now honestly wondering how he does that @.@
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