Which fate to watch first?

Apr 25, 2015 7:37 PM

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http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1286059

Where do I start?
Choose one of these options to get into the series:

Anime-only: UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you want to only experience the Fate series in anime form. However, you won't be getting the complete Fate/Stay Night experience because there is no good anime adaption of the Fate route. The Fate route is mainly Saber's story while also serving as an introduction and worldbuilding route. Although, it's not entirely necessary to read the Fate route first, so if you don't want to take the plunge into VNs, the UBW anime is your next best way to start the series.

Intended: Fate route of the VN -> UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you prefer to experience the series as it was intended with the first route of the VN, and experiencing the rest in anime form. The Fate route is roughly 12 hours long and is the ideal introduction to the series. It also seems like ufotable intends for people to play the Fate route before watching their UBW adaption by advertising that the route is free for smartphones (japan only) at the bottom of their website. It's widely agreed that the VN has a very slow start, but I assure you once it picks up you'll have trouble trying to put it down.

Brave: Entire F/SN visual novel -> Fate/Zero -> UBW anime -> HF movies. I recommend this order if you just can't wait at all for the adaptions or prefer to experience F/SN in it's original, uncut form. With the full story being available to you but having to wait until the end of Spring 2015 for UBW to finish, and who knows how long for all the HF movies to be completed, and then finally getting to watch Fate/Zero, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up going with this order when you originally were following one of the other options. You also get to see how well ufotable adapts the story and don't get to miss out on all the things that were cut. Just be prepared to spend 50+ hours as it is a very long VN, but it's definitely worth every second.

Apr 25, 2015 7:38 PM

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Just watch Fate Zero and dont watch any other Fate.

Apr 25, 2015 7:40 PM

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I thought you'd watch Fate/Zero first? I watched it before I knew anything about the Fate series, and think I enjoyed it a lot better than I would've if I had known anything about the Fate Series beforehand.

Apr 25, 2015 7:41 PM

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fate/prototype

Apr 25, 2015 7:42 PM

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Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Apr 25, 2015 7:42 PM

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Fate series? *Distasteful look*

Apr 25, 2015 7:43 PM

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HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

fanboys will disagree

Apr 25, 2015 7:44 PM

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HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Zero was made to filling the holes of Fate.

Apr 25, 2015 7:46 PM

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Praland said:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1286059

Where do I start?
Choose one of these options to get into the series:

Anime-only: UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you want to only experience the Fate series in anime form. However, you won't be getting the complete Fate/Stay Night experience because there is no good anime adaption of the Fate route. The Fate route is mainly Saber's story while also serving as an introduction and worldbuilding route. Although, it's not entirely necessary to read the Fate route first, so if you don't want to take the plunge into VNs, the UBW anime is your next best way to start the series.

Intended: Fate route of the VN -> UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you prefer to experience the series as it was intended with the first route of the VN, and experiencing the rest in anime form. The Fate route is roughly 12 hours long and is the ideal introduction to the series. It also seems like ufotable intends for people to play the Fate route before watching their UBW adaption by advertising that the route is free for smartphones (japan only) at the bottom of their website. It's widely agreed that the VN has a very slow start, but I assure you once it picks up you'll have trouble trying to put it down.

Brave: Entire F/SN visual novel -> Fate/Zero -> UBW anime -> HF movies. I recommend this order if you just can't wait at all for the adaptions or prefer to experience F/SN in it's original, uncut form. With the full story being available to you but having to wait until the end of Spring 2015 for UBW to finish, and who knows how long for all the HF movies to be completed, and then finally getting to watch Fate/Zero, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up going with this order when you originally were following one of the other options. You also get to see how well ufotable adapts the story and don't get to miss out on all the things that were cut. Just be prepared to spend 50+ hours as it is a very long VN, but it's definitely worth every second.

Almost more confused now. This states that I should watch UBW first, but

HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Says that Zero gives the rules and back story.

Apr 25, 2015 7:46 PM

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Praland said:

HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Zero was made to filling the holes of Fate.

But it's still a good prequel for those new to the series, and is amazing as a stand-alone series...

Apr 25, 2015 7:48 PM

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WisestOne said:

Praland said:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1286059

Where do I start?
Choose one of these options to get into the series:

Anime-only: UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you want to only experience the Fate series in anime form. However, you won't be getting the complete Fate/Stay Night experience because there is no good anime adaption of the Fate route. The Fate route is mainly Saber's story while also serving as an introduction and worldbuilding route. Although, it's not entirely necessary to read the Fate route first, so if you don't want to take the plunge into VNs, the UBW anime is your next best way to start the series.

Intended: Fate route of the VN -> UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you prefer to experience the series as it was intended with the first route of the VN, and experiencing the rest in anime form. The Fate route is roughly 12 hours long and is the ideal introduction to the series. It also seems like ufotable intends for people to play the Fate route before watching their UBW adaption by advertising that the route is free for smartphones (japan only) at the bottom of their website. It's widely agreed that the VN has a very slow start, but I assure you once it picks up you'll have trouble trying to put it down.

Brave: Entire F/SN visual novel -> Fate/Zero -> UBW anime -> HF movies. I recommend this order if you just can't wait at all for the adaptions or prefer to experience F/SN in it's original, uncut form. With the full story being available to you but having to wait until the end of Spring 2015 for UBW to finish, and who knows how long for all the HF movies to be completed, and then finally getting to watch Fate/Zero, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up going with this order when you originally were following one of the other options. You also get to see how well ufotable adapts the story and don't get to miss out on all the things that were cut. Just be prepared to spend 50+ hours as it is a very long VN, but it's definitely worth every second.

Almost more confused now. This states that I should watch UBW first, but

HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Says that Zero gives the rules and back story.

Watch UBW first, like the sticky says.

Apr 25, 2015 7:48 PM

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Just watch Fate Zero and dont watch any other Fate.

Agreed.

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Apr 25, 2015 7:49 PM

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Praland said:

WisestOne said:

Almost more confused now. This states that I should watch UBW first, but

Says that Zero gives the rules and back story.

Watch UBW first, like the sticky says.

Why though? Zero is so much better at a introduction to the Fate series...?

Apr 25, 2015 7:51 PM

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Zero is meant to fill in gaps for F/SN and is intended to be experienced after all three routes in F/SN.

Apr 25, 2015 7:52 PM

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Yeah just start at UBW.

Apr 25, 2015 7:53 PM

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sammario said:

Praland said:

WisestOne said:

Praland said:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1286059

Where do I start?
Choose one of these options to get into the series:

Anime-only: UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you want to only experience the Fate series in anime form. However, you won't be getting the complete Fate/Stay Night experience because there is no good anime adaption of the Fate route. The Fate route is mainly Saber's story while also serving as an introduction and worldbuilding route. Although, it's not entirely necessary to read the Fate route first, so if you don't want to take the plunge into VNs, the UBW anime is your next best way to start the series.

Intended: Fate route of the VN -> UBW anime -> HF movies -> Fate/Zero. Go with this order if you prefer to experience the series as it was intended with the first route of the VN, and experiencing the rest in anime form. The Fate route is roughly 12 hours long and is the ideal introduction to the series. It also seems like ufotable intends for people to play the Fate route before watching their UBW adaption by advertising that the route is free for smartphones (japan only) at the bottom of their website. It's widely agreed that the VN has a very slow start, but I assure you once it picks up you'll have trouble trying to put it down.

Brave: Entire F/SN visual novel -> Fate/Zero -> UBW anime -> HF movies. I recommend this order if you just can't wait at all for the adaptions or prefer to experience F/SN in it's original, uncut form. With the full story being available to you but having to wait until the end of Spring 2015 for UBW to finish, and who knows how long for all the HF movies to be completed, and then finally getting to watch Fate/Zero, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up going with this order when you originally were following one of the other options. You also get to see how well ufotable adapts the story and don't get to miss out on all the things that were cut. Just be prepared to spend 50+ hours as it is a very long VN, but it's definitely worth every second.

Almost more confused now. This states that I should watch UBW first, but

HybridLR said:
Fate/Zero is the prequel...the rules of the war and the back story for the involved masters will make more sense if you watch Zero first.

Says that Zero gives the rules and back story.

Watch UBW first, like the sticky says.

Why though? Zero is so much better at a introduction to the Fate series...?

because it spoils major plots twist of the 3 routes and the LN was created as a complementary material to be read after finishing the VN.

Apr 25, 2015 7:57 PM

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Fate/Stay Night VN>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia VN>Fate/Zero
UBW anime and the upcoming HF movie are extras if you enjoyed them enough.

Apr 25, 2015 7:59 PM

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Alright, sorry. Just want to make sure I watch in the right order for the best experience!
First UBW season 1/2 then
(Whats HF Movies) after the movies
Stay/zero season 1/2.
What about Fate stay night?

Thanks for the help!

Apr 25, 2015 8:00 PM

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WisestOne said:
Alright, sorry. Just want to make sure I watch in the right order for the best experience!
First UBW season 1/2 then
(Whats HF Movies) after the movies
Stay/zero season 1/2.
What about Fate stay night?

Thanks for the help!

Skip the original Stay Night anime and the original UBW movie.

Apr 25, 2015 8:00 PM

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fate/zero (s1, then s2) > ubw (s1, then s2)

you can watch in vice versa order (which is the original chronological order), but as I said fate/zero >>>> ubw by miles. I think it'd leave a bad impression starting off with UBW since it's lackluster

Apr 25, 2015 8:00 PM

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And at what point is the poster asking about the Light Novel timelines? Just because Zero was created after doesn't mean you watch it after. CG dragons are a good reason not to watch the original StayNight on top of a terrible story progression. UBW just started season two, so why start with UBW just to have to wait to progress when the original poster can just watch Zero, understand the backstories of the main characters for UBW and then proceed from there.

Makes no sense to not watch Zero first.

Apr 25, 2015 8:00 PM

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WisestOne said:

What about Fate stay night?

Skip it and wait for Ufotable to make a better adaptation of it.

Apr 25, 2015 8:02 PM

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The deen anime it's a butchering of the 3 routes of the VN taking the first as main and taking elements of the other two, not worthy.

The HF movie haven't aired yet and it's the one the Zero spoils the most.

Apr 25, 2015 8:02 PM

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WisestOne said:
Alright, sorry. Just want to make sure I watch in the right order for the best experience!
First UBW season 1/2 then
(Whats HF Movies) after the movies
Stay/zero season 1/2.
What about Fate stay night?

Thanks for the help!

The UBW movie is essentially a recap that just happened to come out a few years first, if you really wanted to watch the original F/SN anime it'd probably be best anytime before Zero.

Apr 25, 2015 8:06 PM

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HybridLR said:
And at what point is the poster asking about the Light Novel timelines? Just because Zero was created after doesn't mean you watch it after. CG dragons are a good reason not to watch the original StayNight on top of a terrible story progression. UBW just started season two, so why start with UBW just to have to wait to progress when the original poster can just watch Zero, understand the backstories of the main characters for UBW and then proceed from there.

Makes no sense to not watch Zero first.

Because Zero spoils events in Stay Night. I watched Zero, and I wished I didn't when I decided to read the VN.

Apr 25, 2015 8:06 PM

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HybridLR said:
Makes no sense to not watch Zero first.

Except for the fact that y'know Nasu himself has gone on record and said that F/Z is intended to be experienced after F/SN.

Apr 25, 2015 8:07 PM

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Sterkte said:
Your experience will not be the same if you start there. Watch it in order by release date, like you're intended to.

So F/SN and then F/Z.

Apr 25, 2015 8:11 PM

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The thing is that if you watch Zero first, youre not gonna like Stay, because of the atmosphere.

So I recommend all the Stay's, and then Zero.

Apr 25, 2015 8:12 PM

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Fate/Zero is a LOT better than Stay Night.

I'd reccomend playing the Stay Night VN instead of watching the anime.

Apr 25, 2015 8:22 PM

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Feaor said:

HybridLR said:
Makes no sense to not watch Zero first.

Except for the fact that y'know Nasu himself has gone on record and said that F/Z is intended to be experienced after F/SN.

And Reki Kawahara has gone on record saying he knows there's plot holes and that his story is basically garbage but there are still rabid fanboys who think SAO is best Also let's remember one major thing about film, anime and creation in general... the intent of the author/composer/writer is all well and good but each person watching it can have a different interpretation of it, that's the beauty of art. So like it or not, Zero is a prequel, due to a basic understanding of timelines...you watch the one written in the early period first.

Also a prequel doesn't spoil crap...it adds depth to the characters.

Apr 25, 2015 8:25 PM

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HybridLR said:

Feaor said:

Except for the fact that y'know Nasu himself has gone on record and said that F/Z is intended to be experienced after F/SN.

And Reki Kawahara has gone on record saying he knows there's plot holes and that his story is basically garbage but there are still rabid fanboys who think SAO is best Also let's remember one major thing about film, anime and creation in general... the intent of the author/composer/writer is all well and good but each person watching it can have a different interpretation of it, that's the beauty of art. So like it or not, Zero is a prequel, due to a basic understanding of timelines...you watch the one written in the early period first.

Also a prequel doesn't spoil crap...it adds depth to the characters.

Doesn't add depth when it makes the plot twists underwhelming. Prequels are set before a series, but if it's intended to be finished after the main series, you do that.

Apr 25, 2015 8:25 PM

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WisestOne said:
Alright, sorry. Just want to make sure I watch in the right order for the best experience!
First UBW season 1/2 then
(Whats HF Movies) after the movies
Stay/zero season 1/2.
What about Fate stay night?

Thanks for the help!

Going to watch F/SN after the UBW since thats what it seems. There is so much contradiction in this thread its crazy.

Apr 25, 2015 8:27 PM

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WisestOne said:
There is so much contradiction in this thread its crazy.

That thread was put as a sticky for some reason.

Apr 25, 2015 8:28 PM

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HybridLR said:

Feaor said:

Except for the fact that y'know Nasu himself has gone on record and said that F/Z is intended to be experienced after F/SN.

And Reki Kawahara has gone on record saying he knows there's plot holes and that his story is basically garbage but there are still rabid fanboys who think SAO is best Also let's remember one major thing about film, anime and creation in general... the intent of the author/composer/writer is all well and good but each person watching it can have a different interpretation of it, that's the beauty of art. So like it or not, Zero is a prequel, due to a basic understanding of timelines...you watch the one written in the early period first.

Also a prequel doesn't spoil crap...it adds depth to the characters.

Except for the fact that F/Z spoils almost all of the major reveals in F/SN because its assumed that you already know them going into F/Z. F/Z was actually originally not intended to be a whole LN, it was only supposed to expand on one major event from the 4th Grail war but Urobuchi eventually expanded it and made it a complete story. Then the LN was purposely not published until after the original 2006 F/SN was finished airing because it was meant to be read afterwards.

Apr 25, 2015 8:30 PM

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Wow lots of people saying to start at zero first. I agree.

Last time I told someone to watch zero first, the priests jumped me like a pack of rabid wolves.

Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久

Apr 25, 2015 8:39 PM

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Kenjataimu said:
Wow lots of people saying to start at zero first. I agree.

Last time I told someone to watch zero first, the priests jumped me like a pack of rabid wolves.

That's just because the mods haven't moved the thread to the UBW board, where the priests are usually lurking.

I'd go with emobubbles, but someone else already had it, damn bastard.

Apr 25, 2015 9:12 PM

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None of them.

Apr 25, 2015 9:49 PM

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emobuttercup said:

Kenjataimu said:
Wow lots of people saying to start at zero first. I agree.

Last time I told someone to watch zero first, the priests jumped me like a pack of rabid wolves.

That's just because the mods haven't moved the thread to the UBW board, where the priests are usually lurking.

Nigga we everywhere.

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If you have no interest in ever reading the original VN at any point you can go ahead and watch Fate/Zero first, the HF movies are most "spoiled" by Zero but they won't be out for a year or two so it would be unreasonable to ask someone to wait that long to watch a show already aired.

Every if Zero is a continuation of Fate Stay/Night in every way except chronologically.

If you really wanna invest the time in getting into the Fate series/Nasuverse go read the VN-->F/Z. Tbh I don't feel UBW is that strong of a starting point.

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Apr 25, 2015 9:52 PM

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Yeah I thought since its rated highly itd be good too
But its trash for fanboys dont watch it

Apr 25, 2015 10:02 PM

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you know what don't bother watching any of them.The release order is a mess.The HF movies are going to come out in 2016.Then people will have all the releases to judge for themselves why certain "fanboys" tell you to watch FSN before FZ. Up until then,don't watch, the debate will continue on specially those who have just watched Zero.There are shit tons of other shows to watch before that.Enjoy watching them.You will be better.

*end of a tired rant*

Apr 25, 2015 10:42 PM

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All I am going to say is that I watched Fate/Zero first.

"Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" "Shine Bright Like A Diamond"

Apr 26, 2015 1:08 AM

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You are better off to just playing the fate stay night visual novel instead.

The anime adaptations are a mess.

If you want to just watch anime and are prepared for infinitely more shallow and boring things than the source material:

Start with Unlimited Blade Works 2014
After that wait for Heaven's Feel movies
Then watch Zero(which spoils EVERYTHING in FSN and is meant to be seen last)

Apr 26, 2015 6:26 PM

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Play the VN, at least the Fate route which separately is available on Android iirc is the best choice. If you need help PM me.

F/Z is a prequel intended to be watched only after experiencing FSN. I did Zero first and even the first episode alone spoils like 80% of the best twists that would make you scream at your screen "WHAT".

anime only: UBW->HF->FZ

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