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![]() In April 2008, both authors collaborated on a one-shot titled Sachie-chan Guu!!. In 2009 and up until 2010, the pair also worked on a 3-chapter project titled JIYA. Source: Interview video ![]() Modified by myanimelistllc, Feb 11, 2016 7:03 AM |
Mm another manga series by Toriyama...interesting. If he can retain the style of the original Dragonball, then I think it could have good potential. ![]() |
Klad said: A toriyama story without his art? That'd be hard to accept. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. I love his art style. The guy who will be drawing looks like he has a more realistic style. Not sure how that fits with the type of things Toriyama writes. I guess we will have to wait and see. ![]() |
DrizzyXP said: I'd prefer if it were Toriyama's art and Katsura handled the story. Toriyama has never been good at story-telling. True. I love his art style, but his stories are always super simplistic. ![]() |
It depends on what kind of story it will be, for now I am not interested, especially when another mangaka is handling the art. ![]() Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
So I just read the other collaboration these two authors made, Jiya. If this new manga is anything like that I'm on board. Jiya was pretty damn funny, and had a lot of romcom stuff that I didn't expect from Toriyama. ![]() |
DrizzyXP said: I'd prefer if it were Toriyama's art and Katsura handled the story. Toriyama has never been good at story-telling. I feel like Toriyama's story-telling is very good for its time. Even now, I still think that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (the series still has its fair share of flaws) hold up today but when he lost his motivation for drawing during the Buu saga, I would agree with you; his story went downhill. That is just my opinion, and I may be a bit biased since I love Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. ![]() |
These are two authors are highly look upon to =) It's highly probable the resulting work is gonna be more comedy than action oriented. Toryama expressed more than one time will to produce matter more like Doctor Slump than Dragon Ball Z... Moreover, both artists share a common knack for science-fiction. After all, Katsura signed titles about reality-ported graphics software (Zetman) or the manipulation of DNA (DNA²), while Toryama brought to us a planet Earth with Capsule corps as one of its biggest corporation operating on spatial reduction of objects (Dragon Ball/Dragon ball Z). I know there gonna be magnificient girls, Katsura well-polished ecchi style is to be trusted for eye candy... At any rate, I beg to know for more, just as Maerow says. ![]() Modified by sorcery, Apr 25, 2015 1:35 PM |
AWestSide said: DrizzyXP said: I'd prefer if it were Toriyama's art and Katsura handled the story. Toriyama has never been good at story-telling. I feel like Toriyama's story-telling is very good for its time. Even now, I still think that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (the series still has its fair share of flaws) hold up today but when he lost his motivation for drawing during the Buu saga, I would agree with you; his story went downhill. That is just my opinion, and I may be a bit biased since I love Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Yeah I don't know why people complain so much about the plot in DBZ. It's not groundbreaking but each arc was pretty exciting. I still think the Android/Cell Saga is one of the greatest Shonen arcs ever written. It was exciting from beginning to end. ![]() |
Fullmetal89 said: AWestSide said: DrizzyXP said: I'd prefer if it were Toriyama's art and Katsura handled the story. Toriyama has never been good at story-telling. I feel like Toriyama's story-telling is very good for its time. Even now, I still think that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (the series still has its fair share of flaws) hold up today but when he lost his motivation for drawing during the Buu saga, I would agree with you; his story went downhill. That is just my opinion, and I may be a bit biased since I love Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Yeah I don't know why people complain so much about the plot in DBZ. It's not groundbreaking but each arc was pretty exciting. I still think the Android/Cell Saga is one of the greatest Shonen arcs ever written. It was exciting from beginning to end. His writing is only effective for young kids (which it should be since it's a shonen) but compared to other things in terms of writing it's not that good. ![]() |
Who's trying to see Toriyama plot something that's not DBZ? Let him do the art and someone else handle plotting. ![]() Jumping in Headfirst - I hear reading it causes immortality. Warning. Reading may not actually cause immortality. |
GreenBenjamin said: Fullmetal89 said: AWestSide said: DrizzyXP said: I'd prefer if it were Toriyama's art and Katsura handled the story. Toriyama has never been good at story-telling. I feel like Toriyama's story-telling is very good for its time. Even now, I still think that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (the series still has its fair share of flaws) hold up today but when he lost his motivation for drawing during the Buu saga, I would agree with you; his story went downhill. That is just my opinion, and I may be a bit biased since I love Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Yeah I don't know why people complain so much about the plot in DBZ. It's not groundbreaking but each arc was pretty exciting. I still think the Android/Cell Saga is one of the greatest Shonen arcs ever written. It was exciting from beginning to end. His writing is only effective for young kids (which it should be since it's a shonen) but compared to other things in terms of writing it's not that good. His writing is a lot better than some of the Shonen that have come after. Just because the manga is aimed at young adults/kids doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by an older audience. Not everything has to be '2deep4me' to be considered 'good writing.' Say what you will about Toriyama but Dragon Ball is one of the few mangas that is universally known around the world. You can go to pretty much any country and find someone that at least recognizes some of the characters. The fact that he managed to write something that could appeal not only to a Japanese audience but the world says quite a bit at how 'effective' his writing is. Even if it wasn't intentional, he created one of the most beloved universes in fiction. ![]() |
Dragon Ball's writing is very inconsistent, either ranging from absolutely brilliant (the Freeza arc) to mediocre or just downright bad (the Boo arc). Asspulls, retcons, plot holes, contradictions, non-foreshadowed shifts in protagonists, over-usage of tropes, introducing new characters over fleshing out older characters, out of character moments and much more are not new to Dragon Ball. Which is to be expected from such a long series, and even if it works for Shounen and even if worked for its time, it still doesn't excuse bad writing. ![]() |
DrizzyXP said: Dragon Ball's writing is very inconsistent, either ranging from absolutely brilliant (the Freeza arc) to mediocre or just downright bad (the Boo arc). Asspulls, retcons, plot holes, contradictions, non-foreshadowed shifts in protagonists, over-usage of tropes, introducing new characters over fleshing out older characters, out of character moments and much more are not new to Dragon Ball. Which is to be expected from such a long series, and even if it works for Shounen and even if worked for its time, it still doesn't excuse bad writing. DB is good but to me I was never a huge fan of it. I personally liked Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin more. To me bringing back dead characters is very cheapening. However what DB is so good is the creativity and really first great battle fantasy shounen and the father of the battle shounen with new concepts like the usage of gravity training, hyperbolic time chamber and power ups with different power levels. And also DB had Goku who is a very awesome character and ideal hero type of character that people like. Its the exact same reason people like characters such as Luffy and Naruto. ![]() |
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