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Apr 25, 2015 9:15 AM

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astroprogs said:
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Now the biggest question is if UFO table will give us the DOLPHINS or not

They keep giving us mixed signals. Dolphins were in the first cour prologue and ending, and... not dolphins in this cour's ending.


Maybe they changed their mind half-way.
Apr 25, 2015 9:18 AM

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Hyakichan said:
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Yup, pretty much. He enjoys her struggle to get her goal. And, like, in his life time, he only knew women who longed for him.




I wonder what scenes they'll expand on with those five minutes. Glad they nailed Lancer this episode.


I mean the ones part of his harem.
Like, the ones in his time would be too scared to defy him.
Saber, however, whether in his time or not, wouldn't give a damn ~.~

And I frankly don't care enough to change the post :I
mira-pyonApr 25, 2015 9:21 AM
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Apr 25, 2015 9:21 AM

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Grey-Zone said:
astroprogs said:

They keep giving us mixed signals. Dolphins were in the first cour prologue and ending, and... not dolphins in this cour's ending.


Maybe they changed their mind half-way.

Is implied sex allowed in a TV series at this time slot and channel in Japan?
Apr 25, 2015 9:25 AM

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astroprogs said:
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Maybe they changed their mind half-way.

Is implied sex allowed in a TV series at this time slot and channel in Japan?


Dunno... there have been quite a few which had implied or even actual "safe-for-work" sex scenes, don't know if it' the same channel and/or same timeslot, but seriously I think there are not much better times than midnight...
Apr 25, 2015 9:29 AM
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Cute. Can't wait for next episode!
Apr 25, 2015 9:32 AM

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Great episode! Can't wait for that rematch!


UFO just confirmed on twitter that 5 minutes were cut for the broadcast of this episode.
Apr 25, 2015 9:33 AM

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Wow, then at least 12 + min was cut from the tv version so far.
Apr 25, 2015 9:44 AM

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Well atleast the distortion was portrayed kinda.Waiting for subs to give my final judgement.
Apr 25, 2015 9:48 AM

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chat77 said:
Well atleast the distortion was portrayed kinda.Waiting for subs to give my final judgement.


The flashback itself was too tame.

We got Children turning into gatorade, Illya chewed by wolves, Meidos being slaughtered, etc, but when it comes to canon material this was very tame.

We literally see nothing beyond fire, few obscured corpses and few alive people.
Apr 25, 2015 9:55 AM

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Garcher VS Brolancer next week 8D
bruh
Apr 25, 2015 9:58 AM

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I forgot, how did Shirou know the Mysterious Blond Foreign Guy is Gilgamesh?
Apr 25, 2015 9:58 AM

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A good episode.
Nice to hear Shirou talk about his past.
Lancer is awesome, i'm hype for his fight.
I liked too the talk between Archer and Kuzuki

There's official french subs on Wakanim if somebody want:
http://www.wakanim.tv/
Moekou said:
I forgot, how did Shirou know the Mysterious Blond Foreign Guy is Gilgamesh?

Shinji said his name.
Apr 25, 2015 10:01 AM

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Moekou said:
I forgot, how did Shirou know the Mysterious Blond Foreign Guy is Gilgamesh?

answered there in the VN vs anime thread (obviously spoiler)

I am not surprised people would be confused in anime.

Short Version is it has to do with hearing his name. How he figured EVERYTHING else(The np, etc) anime does not explain but is explained in the link aobve.
Apr 25, 2015 10:02 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Moekou said:
I forgot, how did Shirou know the Mysterious Blond Foreign Guy is Gilgamesh?
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1370090&show=450#msg39492684 answered there (obviously spoiler)

I am not surprised people would be confused in anime.

Shinji said the name of Gilgamesh in front of them in the anime....
Apr 25, 2015 10:06 AM

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He said it when Rin refused to join Shinji's side.
Apr 25, 2015 10:12 AM

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Well, I will rate two parts of the episode separately:

Lancer scenes: 20/10 (You know a perfect score is not enough to rate Lancer's awesomeness.)

Other stuff: 7/10
Apr 25, 2015 10:38 AM

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Shit, gotta wait for subs.

You guys are lucky for understanding gibberish and moonrunes...
Apr 25, 2015 10:58 AM

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Liked the build up for next week. Pretty decent development for Shirou. Lancer was great. As always the scenery was gorgeous so I was just immersed in that world.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:02 AM

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With subs this episode is even more worthless.

Anime Shirou's distortion is literally Generic Shonen Hero Tragic Backstory with none of actually psychological stuff there. "He does not want the tragedy to repeat" that's literally all in here lol.

And The anime Original material was outright pointless chatter that is sure to make people misunderstand Caster's wish.
Apr 25, 2015 11:03 AM

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Surgery was absolutely horrible. How the hell are we supposed to make Dr Gil videos from this?! This looked like he was in a grocery store. "Oh look, a fresh loli." *splosh*

y u take dis from us ufo? smh
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ayy lmao
Apr 25, 2015 11:09 AM

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I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?

Also the animation quality took a little dive for this episode. Understandable since the animation in last ep was good and it's gonna be awesome next week too.

5/5. Not gonna take away a point for the animation. It was suitable for talky ep.
Apr 25, 2015 11:10 AM

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iravuseiba said:
I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?

Wrong episode. That should have happened in 14 if at all. This was anime-original.
Apr 25, 2015 11:11 AM
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Gilgamesh took Illya's heart away.. Literally. That was pretty brutal..

Great to see Lancer again! Didn't quite expect him to offer his help to the OTP though..
Shirou being protective over Rin was pretty funny and cute, especially them Rin's blushes. So adorable. :3

Good episode. Can't wait for Archer vs. Lancer and Shiou & Rin vs. Caster!

Apr 25, 2015 11:11 AM

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iravuseiba said:
I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?


Caster talk was cut for bds in Ep14 that was an anime original.

Forgetfulness said:

I liked the distortion bit. At least they have it all explained out explicitly so if people still aren't understanding that part of Shirou, we can conclusively say that it's because they're stupid and not because the show is being too vague about it


They did not?

The show explanation is literally "I felt guilt of unable to save anyone so I decided to get strong like father so if something happens like that again I will save everyone". That's it. There's NO indication at all of how the fire fucked his mind. Just typical shonen hero backstory.
Apr 25, 2015 11:11 AM

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Lancer's such a bro. I favor both Lancers in Zero and here.
Apr 25, 2015 11:15 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
CookingPriest said:


Caster talk was cut for bds in Ep14 that was an anime original.



They did not?

The show explanation is literally "I felt guilt of unable to save anyone so I decided to get strong like father so if something happens like that again I will save everyone". That's it. There's NO indication at all of how the fire fucked his mind. Just typical shonen hero backstory.
Rin explained more than that though.


Rin explained her perception of it which is quite shallow and without the actual psychological stuff no different from "you are a stupid idiot"
Apr 25, 2015 11:15 AM

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JustKurious said:
Lancer's such a bro. I favor both Lancers in Zero and here.

Nah, Zero Lancer can't compare. It's gotta be Zero Rider vs F/SN Lancer when it comes to bro-ness.
Apr 25, 2015 11:16 AM

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CookingPriest said:
iravuseiba said:
I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?


Caster talk was cut for bds in Ep14 that was an anime original.

Forgetfulness said:

I liked the distortion bit. At least they have it all explained out explicitly so if people still aren't understanding that part of Shirou, we can conclusively say that it's because they're stupid and not because the show is being too vague about it

They did not?

The show explanation is literally "I felt guilt of unable to save anyone so I decided to get strong like father so if something happens like that again I will save everyone". That's it. There's NO indication at all of how the fire fucked his mind. Just typical shonen hero backstory.

They showed shirou ignoring the other victims of the fire reaching out to him for help
Apr 25, 2015 11:17 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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Rin explained more than that though.


Rin explained her perception of it which is quite shallow and without the actual psychological stuff no different from "you are a stupid idiot"

The Answer is better part for expanding on Shirou's Psyche anyways. Let's wait till that's over then judge yeah?
Apr 25, 2015 11:17 AM

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Cute Tohsaka is cute.

Damn Gilgamesh ripped her heart out. He probably needs it for the grail.
Oh god who are you people?
Apr 25, 2015 11:17 AM

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iravuseiba said:
I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?

Also the animation quality took a little dive for this episode. Understandable since the animation in last ep was good and it's gonna be awesome next week too.

5/5. Not gonna take away a point for the animation. It was suitable for talky ep.


It's funny I noticed the faces looked really underdone until Lancer pulls out his gay bulge near the end ten then all of a sudden they look great again.

The price we pay for glorious GARoffs
Apr 25, 2015 11:18 AM

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Guilek said:
CookingPriest said:


Caster talk was cut for bds in Ep14 that was an anime original.


They did not?

The show explanation is literally "I felt guilt of unable to save anyone so I decided to get strong like father so if something happens like that again I will save everyone". That's it. There's NO indication at all of how the fire fucked his mind. Just typical shonen hero backstory.

They showed shirou ignoring the other victims of the fire reaching out to him for help


I covered that in "I was unable to save anyone".
That flashback make sit look like SHirou's problem is nothing more than a typical generic survivor's guilt that every recent shonen protag suffers from.

iravuseiba said:
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The Answer is better part for expanding on Shirou's Psyche anyways. Let's wait till that's over then judge yeah?


Answer is not expanding. It is concluding. It is the conclusion of SHirou's viewpoint evolution. It is completely worthless without the actual evolution and build up.
Apr 25, 2015 11:20 AM

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Needed more Rin teasing :<

And what was with Shiro's face and head tilt during the conversation at Illya's grave. They tried too hard there.
Apr 25, 2015 11:21 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Guilek said:

They showed shirou ignoring the other victims of the fire reaching out to him for help


I covered that in "I was unable to save anyone".
That flashback make sit look like SHirou's problem is nothing more than a typical generic survivor's guilt that every recent shonen protag suffers from.

His facial expression clearly show that his mind is broken.
And Rin saying that he is broken, anormal too.
Apr 25, 2015 11:23 AM

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WrongPriest said:
iravuseiba said:
I don't remember Archer talking to Kuzuki from the VN. Didn't he talk with Caster instead?

Also the animation quality took a little dive for this episode. Understandable since the animation in last ep was good and it's gonna be awesome next week too.

5/5. Not gonna take away a point for the animation. It was suitable for talky ep.


It's funny I noticed the faces looked really underdone until Lancer pulls out his gay bulge near the end ten then all of a sudden they look great again.

The price we pay for glorious GARoffs

They must've spend all the budget for this ep on GARcher Epicness next ep. Gonna be the longest 7 days yet.
Apr 25, 2015 11:23 AM

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Guilek said:

His facial expression clearly show that his mind is broken.
And Rin saying that he is broken, anormal too.


The "I seen some shit" facial expression can only be understood by VN readers. It does not even begin to cover the depth of how fucked up his mind is.

AT best it looks he is disturbed at Illya's death.
Apr 25, 2015 11:24 AM

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Lancer, plz. Be careful with that E luck, you magnificient fuck.

So can they manage to pull it out of that situation without too much damage? I mean, of course they'll survive, there is still 8 episodes left, but will they all makes it out alive? Will Shirou lose an arm and a leg, then become an alchemist?

So Blondie identity is revealed. One would think that Gilgamesh would look a bit more like this, but apparently, he's a hot blond. Well, gotta please the ladies somehow (and now just the ladies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ).

Pfffiou, thank god Ufotable used that option within Tohsaka/Shirou/Lancer discussion. Shirou is already taking the lead in the couple, poor Tohsaka x)
Also, Lancer reactions are priceless.

Shinji doing what is the best he can do : being a useless piece of shit.

Lancer and Archer rematch is gonna be so awesome. There have also been that pendant revealation. You can take the oncoming week to ponder on that.

Y u doin dis to ma loli, ufotable?! This is loli abuse! Where is the police when we need them??!

Here's my album for today episode : http://imgur.com/a/Bkerm
Here's my Rin album for today episode : http://imgur.com/a/wir8G
minouneetzoeApr 25, 2015 12:55 PM
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Apr 25, 2015 11:24 AM

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That was a very nice episode. Probably my favorite up to this point, to be honest. We're hitting the best part of the visual novel right now.

Lancer's reappearance was glorious and Rin tsundere moment was pure porn hngh. Really hyped for next week
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It ended exactly where expected. Overall it was a good episode, although I thought that Tohsaka threatening Shinji and Gilgamesh giving up happened a bit too fast. Otherwise, I enjoyed the original scene and the pacing was good, comedic moments were funny as well. It's just about as good as I could possibly expect considering the source material and the amount of time they had allocated.

The next episode is going to be awesome~!

e: sigh, people complaining about animation in an episode without action... priorities
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Apr 25, 2015 11:25 AM

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Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.
Apr 25, 2015 11:26 AM

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thevenusadept said:
Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.
Well the difference is that one is a movie and one is a TV series. Also is it really that important?
Apr 25, 2015 11:27 AM
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Looks like lancer is back and is going to lend a hand.
I liked the conversation with lancer, tohsaka, and shirou.... Especially how tohsaka was blushing... So kawaii >.<
Can't wait for archer vs lancer this should be exciting
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CookingPriest said:
Guilek said:

His facial expression clearly show that his mind is broken.
And Rin saying that he is broken, anormal too.


The "I seen some shit" facial expression can only be understood by VN readers. It does not even begin to cover the depth of how fucked up his mind is.

AT best it looks he is disturbed at Illya's death.

It isn't like it is the first time he have this facial expression.
We have seen it several times, you just need to watch the show to see it.
Apr 25, 2015 11:29 AM

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thevenusadept said:
Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.


I liked the fact she didn't explode a blood fountain when he died, but yeah it was weird how it happened with so little fanfare, almost like an afterthought.

Nah, I think I actually still like this one better.
Apr 25, 2015 11:29 AM

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Slower episode this week. Shirou's face was creepy as hell. I guess him living the other people there is his problem. I would have thought him waking up to hell on earth would be the cause, but guess I was wrong.

The Rin-teasing was great. So I can amuse they low key going out now. Seems like the fight with Caster is slowly approaching. Will I get to see Saber Alter.... Probably not, but hope to see her soon.

Gligamesh is so op with the basement full of NP. Lol at this guy walking away with the heart like it anit shit.
Can't wait for next week.

5/5.
Apr 25, 2015 11:30 AM

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thevenusadept said:
Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.

Agreed. It is a key moment for Shirou's characterization and that and staredown lasted for what? 15 seconds?

minouneetzoe said:

So Blondie identity is revealed. One would think that Gilgamesh would look a bit more like this, but apparently, he's a hot blond. Well, gotta please the ladies somehow (and now just the ladies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ).


Most of historical figures the servants are in nasuverse have backstories ALMOST NOTHING like their "real world" myths(Caster being the best example of that, which is why it makes no sense them removing her backstory).

Gil lived a very different life from the one in the mythos and it shows in his appearance.

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thevenusadept said:
Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.
Well the difference is that one is a movie and one is a TV series. Also is it really that important?


Yes it is. It is one of THE key moments for Shirou's characterization and establishment
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Well that's true, the surgery scene was pretty underwhelming overall.

It feels like a waste not to reproduce that CG but it didn't really matter to me.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:31 AM

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thevenusadept said:
Really really disappointed by surgery. It was nothing. No emotional impact whatsoever. I can't believe I'm saying this but Deen did it better than Ufo.

They abused our emotions last week. It'd be cruel to do it again. Ufotable is nice like that.
Apr 25, 2015 11:32 AM

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The "I seen some shit" facial expression can only be understood by VN readers. It does not even begin to cover the depth of how fucked up his mind is.

AT best it looks he is disturbed at Illya's death.

It isn't like it is the first time he have this facial expression.
We have seen it several times, you just need to watch the show to see it.


VN Readers will.
Anime Onlies have absolutely no reason to believe there's something more in his character than what is shown.

Shirou is way too complex of a character to GET with small "easter eggs" like that. It is something you do for a side character, but not the actual CENTERPIECE of the story.

IT is ironic too because in same episode we get anime original characterization for Kuizuki and Archer of all people...
Apr 25, 2015 11:33 AM

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shirou/rin/lancer are plain Awesome~

5/5 it was amazing episode
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