| Of course, as long as it isn't real anything should be allowed. There's of course things that I would think are disgusting and might look at someone differently if I knew they enjoyed it but that shouldn't matter. I've always had the view that someone should be allowed to do anything they want as long as it doesn't hurt others or infringe upon their rights. |
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| doesn't that happen a lot in eroge? |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
| Of course it should be legal. |
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YorKeY said: inception memes are outdatedIntroverTurtle said: Of course, as long as it isn't real anything should be allowed. Define real? What is real? Is it subjective? If so, women aren't real, therefore it's allowed. |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
| As long as it doesn't turn into a training/testing grounds for how these creeps plan to act on real children. But this sounds like it's about a play that involves these things, I'm interested in seeing the play. |
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| Yes. Those kids in Skyrim pissed me off. The ones in Fable too. YorKeY said: Fuck offIntroverTurtle said: Of course, as long as it isn't real anything should be allowed. Define real? What is real? Is it subjective? If so, women aren't real, therefore it's allowed. |
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| Yeah and I bet it would be very popular. |
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| enforcing victimless crimes is a waste of time of course, one could keep an eye on communities like that, and follow up on statements from members about killing real people but we can't start caring about people who don't exist we're already in a world where thousands of virtual characters are killed or raped everyday, some kids, by people with no intentions of moving on to real life |
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| There will be soccer moms who will call it a simulator, and will say their children can easily access it even though it will be the same moms who bought it for them just like they already do with GTA. |
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| Well, if it's fictional. A child molestor simulator isn't my cup of tea, but if someone wants to make it who am I to stop them? Most stores probably wouldn't sell it though. |
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| Cringe, while the sex part isn't the cringe (it's no worse than a loli VN), the murder is but it's fiction so it should be legal. |
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Caligubro said: Well, if it's fictional. A child molestor simulator isn't my cup of tea, but if someone wants to make it who am I to stop them? Most stores probably wouldn't sell it though. there are already similar things out there... ;^) |
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| The rape thing seems pretty fucked up |
Where the fuck did Monday go? |
| Yes it should be legal. While on the topic, any qt2d grils here lookin for bf? |
| Yes. If not then it should also be equally illegal to rape and slay a virtual adult. |
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Legal but it is fucked up dawg but i can post more gifs like this doe |
| Yes. I would have to be charged with war crimes if killing virtual characters was illegal. |
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GreenSoap said: Yes.What do you think? And to the people above, no, it can't become a "training ground" and it does not influence people into doing such things, that has been proven a fact already. /thread |
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| No. That's just sick. |
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| It's the idea that's the most volatile. |
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Consequent said: It's the idea that's the most volatile. Once again o great one, you have blessed this thread. |
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Ryagan said: So make illegal all things you see as sick? Sounds like a great idea. No. That's just sick. Can we ban all things I think are sick too? |
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IntroverTurtle said: N-No, you'd ban me, s-senpai...Ryagan said: So make illegal all things you see as sick? Sounds like a great idea. No. That's just sick. Can we ban all things I think are sick too? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| This already happens in some VNs. |
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| Yeah, I don't believe in thought-crime |
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| Guts does not approve. |
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| With they way they rely on dishonest and trite gendered cliches for no reason other than to pander to the expectations of the audience, I don't trust this person to write anything interesting, compelling, genuine, or honest regarding the morality of "fake rape". It's the literary equivalent to "le controversy" clickbait. As for my personal opinion, I don't know. We already do this anyway. |
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Rarusu_ said: The law isn't there to protect virtual characters. Morally and emotionally, I am disgusted. |
KittenApr 16, 2015 3:49 AM
| Should it be punishable by law? Probably not. Should you partake in it? No you sick fuck. Why the hell do you want children in your fantasies anyway? I have to deal with enough annoying kids IRL. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
Involtus said: enforcing victimless crimes is a waste of time of course, one could keep an eye on communities like that, and follow up on statements from members about killing real people but we can't start caring about people who don't exist we're already in a world where thousands of virtual characters are killed or raped everyday, some kids, by people with no intentions of moving on to real life This. DarkStarr96 said: The rape thing seems pretty fucked up But not the axe murder? GreenSoap said: But is it morally and ethically questionable to do so? Abso-fucking-lutely. Rarusu_ said: The law isn't there to protect virtual characters. Morally and emotionally, I am digusted. I get a little annoyed when I see this all-too-common rarefaction of "morality". It's essentially been reduced to a kind of personal/emotional judgment, some attitude you hold viscerally but can't quite put to words. If you concede that allowing this VR rape-murder is better than the alternative (having no safe outlet), then why do you turn around at the end and imply it's still immoral/unethical? Morality is about human well-being. Something "feeling icky" shouldn't be necessary or sufficient for it to be deemed immoral. If you think this policy's ultimately best for society, stick to your guns and defend it as moral. "Ethics" is not merely shorthand for some Platonic notion of "the pure good form, free-floating and divorced from real world affairs". Cut the relativist bullshit and adulteration of legitimate moral philosophy. |
YorKeY said: IntroverTurtle said: Of course, as long as it isn't real anything should be allowed. Define real? What is real? Is it subjective? If so, women aren't real, therefore it's allowed. deep |
| I'd go with emobubbles, but someone else already had it, damn bastard. |
| like asking should FPS games be legal. come on now |
| >linking ars technica Jesus Christ OP, really? Moral and ethics don't mean jack shit if it's fucking virtual, you'd have to be clinically retarded to think so. I regularly commit large scale genocide as I raze entire cities to the ground and put their population to the sword, or burn entire species out of existence as i glass their planets one after the other to rebuild them for my own empire. I've thoroughly enjoyed shooting and dismembering countless thousands, murdered innocent animals and violently beaten up cute Japanese schoolgirls. Just a couple of hours ago, I gleefully put a APCR shell through the viewport of a IS6, ripping the driver into unrecogniseable shreds and either blowing apart or cooking the rest of the crew alive as the tank went up in flames, and my only response was a little cheer as I turned around to stalk for another target. The average gamer has killed and destroyed enough to make the worst war criminal blush with embarrassment, but luckily, it's not fucking real. I'm mentally well adjusted enough to realize the difference between reality and fiction, but whenever people come up with bullshit like this, I see not everyone is as lucky as me. Maybe they should be institutionalized. |
| Why shouldn't this be made legal? Seriously, how would this be any different from murdering people in a virtual game? Some people are disgusted way too easily. |
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| my main concern would be how this affects a youths development when one inevitably gets his hands on something like this, either by chance or because some troll suggests it as a "fun" game to play and the kid takes him seriously |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
| This is an incredibly one sided argument, as there is only one side that isn't retarded. |
Kenjataimu said: A valid concern, but it applies to fucking everything. We can't censor media in deference to the youngest audience. If little kids get a hold of this then the parents fucked up somewhere.my main concern would be how this affects a youths development when one inevitably gets his hands on something like this, either by chance or because some troll suggests it as a "fun" game to play and the kid takes him seriously |
7starkiller99 said: Legality-wise aside, I'd call this morally objectionable. It's quite simple really. It isn't, actually. What makes it morally objectionable? |
Solipsistic said: Why, it's doubleplusungood wrongthink of course!It isn't, actually. What makes it morally objectionable? |
| Um... Legal?Yes. Mentally ill and future child molester/psychotic killer? Maybe. I can't see how this could be good for the psychological development of anybody, but whether or not it should be legal... Meh, nobody is getting hurt as long as they can distinguish virtual reality from reality. |
| I am on the edge ! The edge of the edgiest edge ever edged by edgekind ! я умерте ужасну депрессии... |
| Its not real so who cares, let it be. But if we are talking advanced sentient AI then maybe not? |
traedApr 14, 2015 11:49 PM
| Yes it should be legal because it's better if someone lives his fantasies this way. |
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