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Apr 18, 2015 8:43 AM

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Can't wait to rewatch it in higher quality. I wonder if they cut anything from this week's episode.



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Apr 18, 2015 8:44 AM

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Tokoya said:
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Such feelz

Some pics

Kawaii overload >//<


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Apr 18, 2015 8:45 AM

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Just ignore his ranting, there's no use in trying to get through to him xD
Well I dont like people putting words in my mouth and others' just because they are buthurt.
I think most of the VN readers established last week that don't feel the same way as he does and are too annoyed by his constant ranting, so you don't have anything to worry about there.....Pretty sure most of the anime-only's feel the same way too
 
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Anime viewers are supposed to read Fate route. That's why they gave it out for free.


I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.
Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:45 AM

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stAtic91 said:
Another week of pages upon pages of Fai's complaining is here. Rejoice!

Can't wait to rewatch it in higher quality. I wonder if they cut anything from this week's episode.


I like how everyone jumps on Fai who just stated his opinion. And then Fake calls him out for doing something he didn't do (while Fake himself is doing what he accuses Fai of doing) and no one says anything.
 
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nocorras said:
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Well I dont like people putting words in my mouth and others' just because they are buthurt.


You're the one that put words in other people's mouth.

>Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.
Em no?Look at the poll.Look at the posts here.Look at the live reactions.Look at FB's page,tweeter etc.

More people love it than not.That means that what he says about whatever problems he has with the anime are his alone(and some others) not of everyone.
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:46 AM

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_P5 said:
GARBrotato said:
Anime viewers are supposed to read Fate route. That's why they gave it out for free.


I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.


this adaptation absolutely cant stand wthout source material.
And with source material the flaws become apparent.

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Nothing.

TBH had they done a good job in this part of story you would have felt m ore as it does a good job explaining stuff about her in canon vn.

Here they flubbed the feels hard.
Even in the VN no one would give a shit if they didn't like the character from before, specifically from Fate route. Someone reading UBW will not give two shits about Illya or Berserker.

This scene is better on re-read actually, because of HF stuff.


Incorrect actually.

Anime does pOOORER job at establishing hte hopelessness of situation and what Illya feels and what is going on. Also the way they handled Shirou's scene at the end takes away a lot.

So while you wo uld not give a shit without fate in vn too that much. You WOULD give more shit than here.
 
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Fight was disappointing.

Flashback and Illya were... eh, okay-ish, but not particulary good. Wolves tearing apart Illya and her screaming in pain was just a no, no for me. Berserker ''suddenly'' coming back to save Illya was done rather poorly.

Shirou just got wrecked by a sword the moment he yelled instead of him running down the stairs to the point where it seemed like it killed him, once again successfully making Shirou look like a huge dumbass.

Shinji scene was nice. Still got sad over Illya somewhat. The special Illya ED is just text, but meh, I suppose the change in tone for the song was somewhat nice.

Over-all, I was extremely disappointed by this episode.
 
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Othi-tan said:
nocorras said:


You're the one that put words in other people's mouth.

>Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.
Em no?Look at the poll.Look at the posts here.Look at the live reactions.Look at FB's page,tweeter etc.

More people love it than not.That means that what he says about whatever problems he has with the anime are his alone(and some others) not of everyone.


And he never said it was everyone. Anyway, I'm not going to bother arguing with you.
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:47 AM

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nocorras said:
stAtic91 said:
Another week of pages upon pages of Fai's complaining is here. Rejoice!

Can't wait to rewatch it in higher quality. I wonder if they cut anything from this week's episode.


I like how everyone jumps on Fai who just stated his opinion. And then Fake calls him out for doing something he didn't do (while Fake himself is doing what he accuses Fai of doing) and no one says anything.
Read my posts.I know some people dont like it.He thinks he is speaking the truth in his every post.
 
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mira-nyan said:
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Kawaii overload >//<


Some more pics

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Apr 18, 2015 8:48 AM

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GARBrotato said:
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I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.
Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.

tokyo ghoul is bad adaptation of the manga.
This is a bad adaptation of one VN route.

SO i'd say this being a bad adaptation makes it WORSE. Because italready cant stand on its own nd without most of the good thngs about this route from VN, it cant stand on its own even more

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Fight was disappointing.

Flashback and Illya were... eh, okay-ish, but not particulary good. Wolves tearing apart Illya and her screaming in pain was just a no, no for me. Berserker ''suddenly'' coming back to save Illya was done rather poorly.

Shirou just got wrecked by a sword the moment he yelled instead of him running down the stairs to the point where it seemed like it killed him, once again successfully making Shirou look like a huge dumbass.

Shinji scene was nice. Still got sad over Illya somewhat. The special Illya ED is just text, but meh, I suppose the change in tone for the song was somewhat nice.

Over-all, I was extremely disappointed by this episode.

A lot of the flashback anime original additions felt like pandering to edgelord fanbase. Forced tryhard stuff.
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:49 AM

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stAtic91 said:
Another week of pages upon pages of Fai's complaining is here. Rejoice!
Lolhowaboutno.jpg

I'll be finishing my re-watch of Sidonia and reading some manga till subs come out. The episode was good and definitely not as bad as the bs 'leaks' we heard about. Can't judge the original scenes yet though.

Anyway, enjoy the thread I guess.
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:50 AM

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Othi-tan said:
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And he never said it was everyone. Anyway, I'm not going to bother arguing with you.
When someone uses the word "objectively" it means that everyone else is either delusional or a liar.SO yeah only his opinion matters.


This is part of the post you quoted and then said 'don't act like you speak for everyone' or whatever you said.

If not for having read the VN, I am pretty sure I would not have.
 
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GARBrotato said:
_P5 said:


I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.
Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.


So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.
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Did they cut the eye cutting out? I may have missed it, but it looked like Illya had wounds on her eyes even though I cannot remember kill cutting her there. BD addition?
 
Apr 18, 2015 8:51 AM

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Did they cut the eye cutting out? I may have missed it, but it looked like Illya had wounds on her eyes even though I cannot remember kill cutting her there. BD addition?


It was there,bruh.

They toned down the scream she gave after that tho.
 
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nocorras said:
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When someone uses the word "objectively" it means that everyone else is either delusional or a liar.SO yeah only his opinion matters.


This is part of the post you quoted and then said 'don't act like you speak for everyone' or whatever you said.

If not for having read the VN, I am pretty sure I would not have.

And I believe I would have.

"A lot of the flashback anime original additions felt like pandering to edgelord fanbase. Forced tryhard stuff."
Of course he isnt speaking for anyone.Pft.
 
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Grey-Zone said:
Did they cut the eye cutting out? I may have missed it, but it looked like Illya had wounds on her eyes even though I cannot remember kill cutting her there. BD addition?


It was there. Just censored.
 
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Grey-Zone said:
Did they cut the eye cutting out? I may have missed it, but it looked like Illya had wounds on her eyes even though I cannot remember kill cutting her there. BD addition?


They didn't show it, might in BD.
 
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_P5 said:

So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.


Your forced to play through the story 3 times finding out new things with focus on different characters where the story changes drastically each time.

This is the 2nd playthough. All the Illya stuff happened in the 1st.
 
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nocorras said:
stAtic91 said:
Another week of pages upon pages of Fai's complaining is here. Rejoice!

Can't wait to rewatch it in higher quality. I wonder if they cut anything from this week's episode.


I like how everyone jumps on Fai who just stated his opinion.
Eh, I don't mind his opinion, but the way he shoves it down everyone's throat every week is a little annoying.
 
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Othi-tan said:

"A lot of the flashback anime original additions felt like pandering to edgelord fanbase. Forced tryhard stuff."
Of course he isnt speaking for anyone.Pft.


He's not, but you're biased against him and have some kind of agenda apparently. Nowhere in his post did he claim to speak for everyone from what I saw, maybe I missed something though.
 
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_P5 said:
So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.


3 different "routes". You play through one storyline. Then when you finish, you restart the game and make a certain "choice", in this case, the branching point is Shirou using his command seal to stop Saber from finishing Archer, who would be critically wounded otherwise, which would completely change the whole story, ala butterfly effect.
 
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WormPriest said:
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Did they cut the eye cutting out? I may have missed it, but it looked like Illya had wounds on her eyes even though I cannot remember kill cutting her there. BD addition?


It was there. Just censored.


Are you sure it was censored? It just looked like a discretion shot to me. You saw Gil swing his sword at her head height, What more is there to see?
 
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He's not, but you're biased against him and have some kind of agenda apparently.


"him" refers to the guy who reposts on EVERY SINGLE live reaction video in a tone that can only be considered "indoctrination". Claiming that his views are objective and then going back to claim that "no one has the right to critisize his argument, because it would be an ad-hominem".
 
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_P5 said:
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Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.


So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.


This adaptation is meant for VN readers a way to piss them off with inconsistencies

It is very clearly not able to stay on its own.
 
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nocorras said:
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And I believe I would have.

"A lot of the flashback anime original additions felt like pandering to edgelord fanbase. Forced tryhard stuff."
Of course he isnt speaking for anyone.Pft.


He's not, but you're biased against him and have some kind of agenda apparently.
Yeah you got me....

YEah he definitely isnt speaking on behalf of Nasu,Miura and the audience.HE even KNOWS that there is a ELF ost track that MIura decided to throw away...plz
 
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_P5 said:
GARBrotato said:
Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.


So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.
Uhm yes and no. F/SN is 3 stories that complement each other. They are 3 different timelines, however in the original VN you are supposed to go through Fate before you start UBW, as such UBW assumes you know stuff from Fate.

Basically UBW is Fate's sequel, but it's also the same story in a way.
 
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WrongPriest said:
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It was there. Just censored.


Are you sure it was censored? It just looked like a discretion shot to me. You saw Gil swing his sword at her head height, What more is there to see?


Dunno really. I'd assume it was censored. Screen blacks out for a moment and the next thing we see is Illya with a wound over her eyes. I'm kind of fairly certain the black out thing is gonna be removed in the BD version and you'll just get Gil cutting her eyes.
 
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_P5 said:
GARBrotato said:
Except this is entirely different?

Tokyo Ghoul anime is an adaptation of the manga from start to finish.

UBW anime is adaptation of UBW route which is the middle of F/SN. Basically you are missing the beginning right now.


So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.


There's a gazillion of threads on MAL that answer everything that you just asked.
 
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_P5 said:

So let me get this straight, UBW is events happenening in the middle of F/SN? So this adaptation is like starting from the middle of the whole story?

What thw fuck is Fate/Stay Night then.


Your forced to play through the story 3 times finding out new things with focus on different characters where the story changes drastically each time.

This is the 2nd playthough. All the Illya stuff happened in the 1st.

But some Illya stuff happens too in HF.
 
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Keep making stuff up in your mind to fuel your hate. It's an opinion get over it.
YEs I am delusional.He probably doesnt even exist.
 
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WrongPriest said:


Your forced to play through the story 3 times finding out new things with focus on different characters where the story changes drastically each time.

This is the 2nd playthough. All the Illya stuff happened in the 1st.

But some Illya stuff happens too in HF.


Sorry I meant some.
 
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ugh. i think i better stay away from episode threads from now on
 
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CookingPriest said:
This adaptation is meant for VN readers a way to piss them off with inconsistencies
Right..

Yeah I'm out for realz this time.
 
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Othi-tan said:
nocorras said:

Keep making stuff up in your mind to fuel your hate. It's an opinion get over it.
YEs I am delusional.He probably doesnt even exist.

Lel.
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Praland said:

But some Illya stuff happens too in HF.


Sorry I meant some.

Ok
 
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Othi-tan said:
nocorras said:

Keep making stuff up in your mind to fuel your hate. It's an opinion get over it.
YEs I am delusional.He probably doesnt even exist.


You're pretty good at making stuff up in your head. So maybe he doesn't. Anyway I'm dropping this. I just had to call out your hypocrisy though.
 
Apr 18, 2015 9:00 AM
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Shit I just realized, no Die Lorelei. :/
 
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That was really great. Near perfect adaptation, way better than last week's. the expanded flashback was awesome (except for Zero flashback stuff), and the focus of the camera when Gil slashes/stabs her was very well executed, keeps the impact without having to censor stuff.

LOL at people bitching about "no explanation for Winter Forest". I'll have to wait for the subs, but I'm pretty sure she said something about a "test" and "getting back to the castle". And as expected, they did NOT make Shirou look like an idiot at all. His desperate expression and muffled screams reflected his inner state pretty well, and so much for the shitstorm about "Rin pulls out a gem to save Ilya, and then looks angrily at Shirou". This is why you don't judge a series based on translations of a prescreening of its first 3 episodes >_>

Oh, and I LOVE this version of the ED, very Kara no Kyoukai-ish. 5/5 episode.

Edit: Shiiit, you guys just made realize there was no Die Lorelei :( Oh well, tbh the fact that I still felt all emotional is proof enough that they didn't need it (for me).
 
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And as expected, they did NOT make Shirou look like an idiot at all.


Except they did?

The tackle was unnecessary and the too-late STOP scream made him look like a complete idiot.

In VN it felt like he is genuinely trying to save her disregarding himself.
Her it felt like a heroic fit.

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Shit I just realized, no Die Lorelei. :/


Music ruins the scenes, yo
 
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Shit I just realized, no Die Lorelei. :/


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That is all.

Let the feels flow ~
 
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Are you sure it was censored? It just looked like a discretion shot to me. You saw Gil swing his sword at her head height, What more is there to see?


Dunno really. I'd assume it was censored. Screen blacks out for a moment and the next thing we see is Illya with a wound over her eyes. I'm kind of fairly certain the black out thing is gonna be removed in the BD version and you'll just get Gil cutting her eyes.
Maybe. Felt more like a directing decision than censoring to me. It's normal to cut away like that and just show the aftermath.
 
Apr 18, 2015 9:08 AM
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Are you sure it was censored? It just looked like a discretion shot to me. You saw Gil swing his sword at her head height, What more is there to see?


Dunno really. I'd assume it was censored. Screen blacks out for a moment and the next thing we see is Illya with a wound over her eyes. I'm kind of fairly certain the black out thing is gonna be removed in the BD version and you'll just get Gil cutting her eyes.

Perhaps you were lagging? I think it cuts back up to Shirou and Rin before cutting to Illya again.
 
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It's interesting that they had Gil's weapons bounce off Berserker's skin at the beginning.

Guess God Hand's still a thing here.
 
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No. No, it didn't.

W/e you say m8


Based perfect flawless mary sue RIn stopping Ginger idiot from being an idiot. Sasuga ufo.


look at the despair in the eyes m8
 
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From preview pics (thanks, beast's lair) it seems we will get Rin-sama embarrassed and angry next week

 
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GG ufo. Y ou officially surpassed akame ga kiru in shitty mood whiplashes now.

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W/e you say m8


Based perfect flawless mary sue RIn stopping Ginger idiot from being an idiot. Sasuga ufo.


look at the despair in the eyes m8


visual storytelling yo.

and then we have the ginger idiot being blown back by the sword.


still felt nothing for the death
 
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visual storytelling yo.

and then we have the ginger idiot being blown back by the sword.


still felt nothing for the death

That's one instant where visual storytelling is done outright brilliantly.
And I'm sorry you didn't feel the death scene. I definitely did.
 
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visual storytelling yo.

and then we have the ginger idiot being blown back by the sword.


still felt nothing for the death

That's one instant when visual storytelling is done outright brilliantly.
And I'm sorry you didn't feel the death scene. I definitely did.


lELWUT? iT JUST LOOKS LIKE BASED RIN SAVING IDIOT GINGER. What visual storytelling lol?


The death scene had absolutely no impact or build up.
Most of atmosphere and tension is missing in this adaptation.
If not for VN I would have felt jack shit here.

I am not surprised most of neogaf hated the prescreening.

The whole episode felt like someone reading a script. VIsual directing had absolutely no clues or impact.
When fucking GUnslinger stratos did a
better today, you know this adaptation failed.
 
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