| Then again, assuming they are all racists is just as bad as assuming living there would be a weeaboo fantasy come true. |
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NicoIsPathetic said: No one's giving Japan a free ride, we're just explaining their culture as it is. I wouldn't go out of my way to defend Japan at all btw, they've in the past, been exploitative to my nationality, but I've forgiven them of course. My older relatives have not, on the other hand. But I still understand it's just them. But how is turning away a white or black person at the door for been that colour any different to what you argued against in the other thread: NicoIsPathetic said: Which is why people won't be moving to Indiana or fuck, even any white trash hick state with religious freedom laws in the long run. Religion is fucking shit, it literally allows people to be ignorant and use that as a copout when it today's society, it's unacceptable. Now I have no plans to ever visit any state that acts like this in the near future. When my own state's governor, Jay Inslee openly criticized Mike Pence, you can tell there really are some states stuck in the 1940s and before. I'm politically correct only because this issue in particular does particularly make me cringe a bit. I know I have no involvement, but I'm not sure how I'd feel if my minority status were turned at the door, even though I've never really dealt with discrimination much IRL. Sound hypocritical to me. your own words: "It literally allows people to be ignorant and use that as a copout when it today's society, it's unacceptable. " Yet you argue against me saying the same thing. Why bother we both clearly have the same opinions about discrimination just on different nations. You think its ok to make some nations modernize but not others and I think the same, only difference is our choice of countries differ. |
SpooksApr 11, 2015 1:48 PM
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| You know what other country treats immigrants the exact same way? Switzerland, and nobody gives a fuck about them doing it. It's only because the weeaboos want to be accepted in Japan that people care about it. They won't be accepted even if the racism aspect disappeared, because Japan doesn't love otaku any more than the west does, they're weirdos there as well as here. |
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nomstuff said: You know what other country treats immigrants the exact same way? Switzerland, and nobody gives a fuck about them doing it. If the thread was about Switzerland I would have said the same thing. I'm unsure if im using this right but your example would be a 'straw man argument' |
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| Japan likely doesn't have anime girls, tentacles and moe magical girls so it probably isn't that great of a place. I'd love to visit it though. |
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| Japan actually hates otaku more in Japan. I hear its seen in a bad light over there. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Japan likely doesn't have anime girls, tentacles and moe magical girls so it probably isn't that great of a place. I'd love to visit it though. Well it has toilets  I personally wouldn't choose the one that guy picked though, too lewd. |
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Spooky_Love said: nomstuff said: You know what other country treats immigrants the exact same way? Switzerland, and nobody gives a fuck about them doing it. If the thread was about Switzerland I would have said the same thing. I'm unsure if im using this right but your example would be a 'straw man argument' I have no idea. I don't care about the finer points of arguing. I was simply pointing out that some western countries behave the same way, and nobody cares. |
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Spooky_Love said: Kagami_Hiiragi said: Japan likely doesn't have anime girls, tentacles and moe magical girls so it probably isn't that great of a place. I'd love to visit it though. Well it has toilets That looks like heaven. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Japan actually hates otaku more in Japan. I hear its seen in a bad light over there. It's often linked to the "Otaku Killer" from what I hear. NicoIsPathetic said: [/spoiler][spoiler] nomstuff said: I have no idea. I don;t care about the finer points of arguing. I was simply pointing out that some western countries behave the same way, and nobody cares. Because muh Western European privilege!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Northern Europe above all my friend. They don't seem to have true blue nationalist pigs like elsewhere. You say that. But Britain is full of them. |
nomstuffApr 11, 2015 1:57 PM
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NicoIsPathetic said: Britain =/= Northern Europe I love playing reverse nationalism cards on people tbh. "Geographically, northern Europe is usually taken to consist of Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the British Isles (United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man)." Derp. |
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Spooky_Love said: NicoIsPathetic said: Britain =/= Northern Europe I love playing reverse nationalism cards on people tbh. "Geographically, northern Europe is usually taken to consist of Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the British Isles (United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man)." and out of that list most of them are fiercely nationalistic or incredibly xenophobic, from what I've seen, read and the people I've spoken to from those places. |
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| What country would want people who live in their own fantasy world tho |
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FGAU1912 said: japan has a living minimum wage like every major industrialized nation minus one what is that one the us that is indeed fact Livable minimum wage, tell that to the animators at A-1 or an artist, they often don't get minimum wage. |
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NicoIsPathetic said: .  Did I fuck your sister or something to rustle your Jimmies so hard? :p |
TheRealNico said: NicoIsPathetic said: . Did I fuck your sister or something to rustle your Jimmies so hard? :p Change your name already ;_; |
NicoIsPathetic said: TheRealNico said: Did I fuck your sister or something to rustle your Jimmies so hard? :p Change your name already ;_; $5 or a coffee on the east coast. We talked about this man |
NicoIsPathetic said: Juschaara said: What country would want people who live in their own fantasy world tho Obviously everyone if we're going by MAL logic. My bad @ Britain not being Northern Europe. I usually classify it as Western Europe. Guess it's kind of both. Eh, Britain is also pretty expensive and plenty xenophobic. it's just as crappy living here as I imagine Japan would be. Also ask most brits, they don't even consider themselves European. |
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NicoIsPathetic said: Is there a place that's like not xenophobic?? I doubt it. Pretty sure Mexico is good on that front. |
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nomstuff said: NicoIsPathetic said: Is there a place that's like not xenophobic?? I doubt it. Pretty sure Mexico is good on that front. Too bad it's pretty dangerous there right now. |
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NicoIsPathetic said: nomstuff said: Pretty sure Mexico is good on that front. Nah, I know they don't like minorities either in some cases. I'm half American and they hate us for sure. but everyone hates americans |
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NicoIsPathetic said: nomstuff said: Pretty sure Mexico is good on that front. Nah, I know they don't like minorities either in some cases. I'm half American and they hate us for sure. damnit, i really wanted to believe in the goodness of Mexico too ;-; |
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| Might be fun to live there fora little while. I understand the people are xenophobic though |
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| Although, having said all this about Japan and knowing it's bad points and that I'd likely never be truly accepted. I'd still go and live there. |
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marriage said: Japan is probably one of the most xenophobic countries in the world and 99% of the population is Japanese people. The only type of person who would want to live there permanently is a deluded weeaboo I thought the Japanese are completely obsessed with foreigners. Especially white foreigners. |
| nobody talks in social gathering? sounds my kind of place to lessen my anxiety/paranoia |
NicoIsPathetic said: -JonasTheJay- said: I thought the Japanese are completely obsessed with foreigners. Especially white foreigners. It's the older population that is where most of the xenophobia comes into play. old people are always the problem. |
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| I would only live in Japan for a while to learn the language. Same with France. Back in the day when I was a young weeaboo, I would say, "I'm gonna be a mangaka in Japan!" Horrible. The thing is, people don't often realize how difficult it might be to adapt to a culture while also trying to learn the language. So many people feel like they'll just fit right in, but that's not the case. That's not even the case here where people speak the same language as you. |
umashikaneko said: j0x said: nobody talks in social gathering? sounds my kind of place to lessen my anxiety/paranoia try here. Nerd or otaku are having funs ourselves if you find right place.Genshiken is pretty realistic Also quite high ratio of foreigner comes to Japan are otaku and they seem to having a lot of funs with their otaku exchange student friends if i win the lottery i will be moving to Japan permanently, although i will have to learn the Japanese language first |
curtis_sw117 said: How exactly is that bad?To my surprise, he wasn't all that happy with living there. He said that the worst part of it are the people. At work, no one talks. Out in public, nobody talks. Even at social gatherings, most people seem to keep to themselves. |
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DarkStarr96 said: :)No one talks? I'm in. |
| Nope. I have too many political related issues with Japan. And Japanese society is so far behind all the other first world countries. I wouldn't even visit. Their government upsets me too much. |
EternalFusion said: Nope. I have too many political related issues with Japan. And Japanese society is so far behind all the other first world countries. I wouldn't even visit. Their government upsets me too much. Canadian... Chinese? |
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