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Mar 29, 2015 6:25 AM

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Woohoo! I made it through this asspull of an abomination!

So the greatest and supposedly smartest being of the Universe dies because he took too long to get it up in front of his "Waifu" and didn't bother thinking to tie up all loose ends by destroying/bringing with him the one ring that would be able to activate the Vilkiss and allow it to transport people to his little paradise, and effectively ruin his wish of merging the two universes.
Then with the battle, what the heck are you doing when you were being so effective in teleporting and shooting Tusk full of holes? In fact, why not just headshot him when you teleport right behind him? Don't need to be a crack shot when your target is just 5 meters away from you. God knows you have the ability to, so why bother coming at him with a useless Katana? You can stab his body to pieces after he's left bleeding on the floor after all.
Smartest man alive dies because he's a narcissistic perv who only realizes seconds before he dies that he doesn't like rebellious women, which is the exact fit of Anges profile...? Seriously, what an idiot. No wait, what great plot armor!

I see the joke here. Everyone falls for Ange. She is pretty much the maiden of destruction and the main cause for all disaster in the entire universe. Good job explaining it Sunrise. I love how this Gundam Seed spin-off panned out.

Didn't bother watching A/Z end so I guess I have nothing worse to compare it to. I"m sure the smart people who started Episode 1 and ended up dropping this show all agree.

7/10 for the first few episodes, and pretty much a 3 or below for the rest of it. Deduct 2 points for all the asspulls, 1 off for lack of coherence, add a point for all the blatant fan service shots.... I guess I'll round it up to a 4 then.

Nice parody Sunrise. *Slow Claps*
Better luck next show.
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Mar 29, 2015 6:36 AM

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silvie should have died. and how did her mom know all about embryo?
 
Mar 29, 2015 6:37 AM

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Man! This show is over now ;-; But at least, things got wrapped up (well, plot holes out there but Fukuda can only answer that).

Dem, no Ange and Tusk kiss in this episode (the one's a flashback), but nice to see that the characters developed? Can you believe it? In a controversial show like this where is ignored because of fanservice? Nice one Fukuda.

The most notable scene in this episode to me is Sylvia's part. That was a nice development for her actually. Lmao to that Embryo's corpse and RIP Jill/Alektra

8/10. That was a good ride and...

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Nice end, especially compared to A/z's
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Mar 29, 2015 6:44 AM
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Well, the anime ended with more asspulls and unresolved issues than I can count. Ange didn't reset the world to her liking. Not sure how I feel about that. It would had made more sense than the actual ending given the basic premise. However, I must admit, it would had felt really cheap, so I am not exactly sure how I feel about that. We never got to see what happened to the baby Normas like the one we saw in the first episode. Not even Ersha brought it up.


Oh, yes, in case anyone is wondering about the Normas procreating when there is only one humanoid males left, please remember that the massive dragons, including Aura, are technically male that can revert to their humanoid forms when they need to mate. So if all of those girls want to give birth, they just need to hunt down some Dragon Balls.
 
Mar 29, 2015 6:46 AM

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-"what are we going to do about the other world?"
-"i dont give a fuck"
SO MUCH WIN XDDDDDDDDDD

at the start i tougth i was going to give it a 10 XD, but nah, let's get real, this is no masterpiece, it's a really good show dou, solid 8, could be a 9, but kinda crappy sometimes, so not or me

so...the last scene of the first opening was a spoiler of the last episode?...guess that explians why i alway tougth around that op "why is ange smiling with everyone if they fucking hate each other :/ "


My exactly toughs off this Series, its not a masterpiece, but is enjoyable and a nice and clean ending, i know its cliche, but cliche ending are more comforting than a different ending like AZ.
 
Mar 29, 2015 6:48 AM

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Best soundtrack since Gundam Unicorn. People that discredited this show because of "asspulls" and "fanservice"obviously do not understand it at all. Cross Ange was better and much more enjoyable than Jojo and Death Parade.

 
Mar 29, 2015 6:54 AM

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Now i would have to watch Senki Zesshou Symphogear since S3 is coming out this July and i want to hear more Nana Mizuki songs!!


Wait, wait WAIT, Senki Zesshou Symphogear season 3!!!!!!! you just made my DAY :O
 
Mar 29, 2015 6:55 AM
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silvie should have died. and how did her mom know all about embryo?


Why wouldn't she? Empress Sophia ruled the Mitsurigi Empire. She probably met Embryo in that fake little garden simulation of his multiple times.
 
Mar 29, 2015 7:04 AM
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This show delivered in so many ways. I was waiting in excitement every week for a new episode. 10/10 from me. :)
 
Mar 29, 2015 7:10 AM
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Just wondering what happened to Misty Rosenblum.
 
Mar 29, 2015 7:26 AM

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It was a pretty nice end to this mess of a series. It has all the usual Cross Ange bs, but meh... i'm used to it by now.

Nothing was out of the ordinary, for Cross Ange standards that is. But damn, the Endless Song always gets me! It's just a really awesome bgm/battle music.

Seeing all the characters living happily made me all warm inside~ except for Sylvia's end. That part was HILARIOUS! She suddenly becomes a badass? lol.

This series was bad, REALLY BAD. But i just can't come to hate it. It's a real magnificent mess, and i'll actually miss this show.
 
Mar 29, 2015 7:44 AM
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Damn this was one hell of a ride.

This was pure entertainement for me, I'm gonna miss this on my Sundays.

Solid 8/10
 
Mar 29, 2015 7:46 AM

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bastek66 said:
Nice end, especially compared to A/z's
bastek66 said:
Nice end, especially compared to A/z's


Still missing the kids tho


What noooooo. Don't spoil az. Guys I watched this first because I didn't really want to go to bed with ange getting raped by fetus man in mind and now I find out the aldnoah zero ending is shit!
 
Mar 29, 2015 8:04 AM

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OST 2 is already out. You know where to find them ^^



The best tracks were not released T_T Why Sunrise! Why!?!
 
Mar 29, 2015 8:07 AM

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First 12-13 eps were solid. Show went downhill from 14 as they had to remind us that the SAO/Twilight-level romance existed every time they could. As mentioned by others, the continuous asspulls didn't help either.

The final fight was as predictable as it gets - especially the Ragna-mail battle and the sword fight between Tusk and Embryo.

I'll give it a 9, but that's only for the first half. The rest is only 5-6 tops.
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Mar 29, 2015 8:13 AM

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That was a good ending. Funny seeing how Hilda was reacting in the background when Tusk and Ange reunited.
 
Mar 29, 2015 8:20 AM

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Wow it's finally over I can't believe it I'm so happy. I think that was the worst anime I've seen in a long time beating SAO by a mile. It's sad, they tried so hard but they fell flat on their faces.
 
Mar 29, 2015 8:27 AM

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decent ending.

while not some outstanding series it still is a little hidden gem.

entertaining from start to fnish.

probably closer to a 7 but still gonna give it an 8 just because people really like to hate the series

personally preferred the first half more before it went all multiverse controlling the earth etc.

thought the idea of just a rotten world with mana people and and the discrimination against norma was more interesting
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Honestly, this was the most satisfying ending than A/Z 2.

I enjoyed the ride till the end.
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A solid 7 for sure :D The final battle was dull though, it could have been a lot better. I love how Ange is managing the true earth with everyone else but I wished she would let the real good people of the other earth join them (Sylvia being one of them seeing that she has changed) :)

I actually don't mind the crazy idea of having a second season :P it's not everyday that you have a series with all sorts of genre fitted into it that is entertaining :)
 
Mar 29, 2015 8:50 AM
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So is everyone ignoring that Tusk might be the only guy there? Lol
 
Mar 29, 2015 9:05 AM

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So is everyone ignoring that Tusk might be the only guy there? Lol


There are male dragons out where. Theirs... you know... should be bigger. Although reptiles don't have them but they are not reptiles so they should... -=)
 
Mar 29, 2015 9:10 AM

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On hindsight, Psycho pass 2 was easier on the brain cells.


lol no. Cross Ange is not completely serious so it's more forgivable when they do ass pulls or whateaver. Psycho Pass 2 was trying to be completely serious while constantly pulling super retarded garbage.

Cross Ange is a fun show that doesn't take itself super seriously. I really like the characters in this show.

I really hope there will be an OVA episode! =D
 
Mar 29, 2015 9:17 AM

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Finally it's over i'll miss those shitty moments.


 
Mar 29, 2015 9:51 AM

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An so my other favorite show of fall-winter 2014-2015 besides Parasyte is over(Akatsuki no Yona's also not far behind though), and what a ride it was.

So, this final episode delivered in typical Cross Ange fashion and I honestly expected nothing less.


- Arzenal & Salamandinay crews working together to save Ange & defeat Fetus-kun? Yep.
- Kira Yamato, our Lord & Savior Tusk showing Fetus-kun that there'll be no NTR'ing on his watch? Yes sir.
- One final crotch landing(one initiated by Ange)? You got it. Hilda in the background was also hilarious. :P
- And of course, Cafe Ange! Granted, I wish we'd get an OVA or two dedicated entirely to that! One picture is not enough, time constraints be damned.


I'll be lurking around here these sub-forums for a while but for now, I'll just say this about the series as a whole:


Never ONCE was I bored when watching it - not a single episode. I accepted everything Cross Ange had to offer and I don't regret it one bit. Both it's ridiculous & serious side, since Cross Ange is contains both and succeeds in both, IMO. The series was always self-aware and unapologetic about it, which is a great thing. I really liked those previews as well that confirmed how self-aware the show was if you still had doubts - I never skipped single one.

I'm happy to see how much Cross Ange climbed through the rankings, seeing the hate it got initially. I believe it was a little beyond the 3000 and it's at #1595 as I'm typing this. I still think it's very underrated but nevertheless, that's one of the biggest rise through the rankings I've seen and I only hope to see it go higher.

The only thing Aldnoah has over it is production values, and that's it. Both have asspulls, but one's self-aware while another isn't. One's repetitive with it's "Martian of the week attack stopped by Inaho" formula(because no matter what Slaine or anyone did, the show still followed the same formula way-back from S1), while another had numerous twists & developments, sometimes when you least expected them(like in ep9, a beach episode). Do I even need to say anything about characters? If there are any comparisons to be made then forget Ange, as worthy comparisons for well-developed characters 2014-2015 for her are Yona & Shinichi. I'd rather compare some of the supporting cast in Cross Ange to AZ's best developed character, or only developed character for that matter, Slaine and the most important ones in the former would still come ahead. To give an example: Salia, a generally hated character, has more reasons for her bad decisions than Slaine did.

I also never thought Cross Ange was boring before the plot really kicked into high gear though. Those episodes were the base of Ange's character development, her initial interactions with the other normas, the base of their relationships. Character dynamics & development were some of the show's strong points. It was when the show took itself seriously. The other half of it, combined together with it's ridiculous but entertaining Valvrave-ish approach in regards to the plot, which Cross Ange did also did a bit better, IMO.

I'll stop here for now. Great show overall that manages to both greatly entertain & make you care about it's characters. As for Ange, time to make room in my top 10 list for her.
 
Mar 29, 2015 9:56 AM

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Haha too many people (like me) was posting here about Cross Ange's ending was better than A/Z (Aldnoah Fucking Zero)
Well there's no complain there because it's the truth and In fact this Ending of Cross Ange made me recover from the ending of A/Z.
(Yeah I'm too salty about the ending of that shitty crappy Mecha Anime named Aldnoah.Zero.)
Haters always gonna hate.
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:01 AM

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An so my other favorite show of fall-winter 2014-2015 besides Parasyte is over(Akatsuki no Yona's also not far behind though), and what a ride it was.

So, this final episode delivered in typical Cross Ange fashion and I honestly expected nothing less.


- Arzenal & Salamandinay crews working together to save Ange & defeat Fetus-kun? Yep.
- Kira Yamato, our Lord & Savior Tusk showing Fetus-kun that there'll be no NTR'ing on his watch? Yes sir.
- One final crotch landing(one initiated by Ange)? You got it. Hilda in the background was also hilarious. :P
- And of course, Cafe Ange! Granted, I wish we'd get an OVA or two dedicated entirely to that! One picture is not enough, time constraints be damned.


I'll be lurking around here these sub-forums for a while but for now, I'll just say this about the series as a whole:


Never ONCE was I bored when watching it - not a single episode. I accepted everything Cross Ange had to offer and I don't regret it one bit. Both it's ridiculous & serious side, since Cross Ange is contains both and succeeds in both, IMO. The series was always self-aware and unapologetic about it, which is a great thing. I really liked those previews as well that confirmed how self-aware the show was if you still had doubts - I never skipped single one.

I'm happy to see how much Cross Ange climbed through the rankings, seeing the hate it got initially. I believe it was a little beyond the 3000 and it's at #1595 as I'm typing this. I still think it's very underrated but nevertheless, that's one of the biggest rise through the rankings I've seen and I only hope to see it go higher.

The only thing Aldnoah has over it is production values, and that's it. Both have asspulls, but one's self-aware while another isn't. One's repetitive with it's "Martian of the week attack stopped by Inaho" formula(because no matter what Slaine or anyone did, the show still followed the same formula way-back from S1), while another had numerous twists & developments, sometimes when you least expected them(like in ep9, a beach episode). Do I even need to say anything about characters? If there are any comparisons to be made then forget Ange, as worthy comparisons for well-developed characters 2014-2015 for her are Yona & Shinichi. I'd rather compare some of the supporting cast in Cross Ange to AZ's best developed character, or only developed character for that matter, Slaine and the most important ones in the former would still come ahead. To give an example: Salia, a generally hated character, has more reasons for her bad decisions than Slaine did.

I also never thought Cross Ange was boring before the plot really kicked into high gear though. Those episodes were the base of Ange's character development, her initial interactions with the other normas, the base of their relationships. Character dynamics & development were some of the show's strong points. It was when the show took itself seriously. The other half of it, combined together with it's ridiculous but entertaining Valvrave-ish approach in regards to the plot, which Cross Ange did also did a bit better, IMO.

I'll stop here for now. Great show overall that manages to both greatly entertain & make you care about it's characters. As for Ange, time to make room in my top 10 list for her.


Absolutely great review. I agree 100% and really wish we got some OVAs about Cafe Ange.

Ange is already my favorite female lead of all time.
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:06 AM

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Hilda in the background after Tusk catches Ange just awesome. How are they supposed to reproduce for their new nation when Tusk is the only guy? like all the male dragons are still dragons o.O.
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Hilda in the background after Tusk catches Ange just awesome. How are they supposed to reproduce for their new nation when Tusk is the only guy? like all the male dragons are still dragons o.O.


Tusk is the Male Alpha. :')
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:25 AM

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Haha too many people (like me) was posting here about Cross Ange's ending was better than A/Z (Aldnoah Fucking Zero)
Well there's no complain there because it's the truth and In fact this Ending of Cross Ange made me recover from the ending of A/Z.
(Yeah I'm too salty about the ending of that shitty crappy Mecha Anime named Aldnoah.Zero.)


I was soooooo eagerly waiting to watch Cross Ange's finale after Aldnoah's. Good thing AZ was airing 1st.

If anyone here hasn't seen either anime's final eps then I'd strongly advice you to watch AZ before. You'll be cleansed in the light of Angelise Ikaruga Misurugi-sama.
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:30 AM
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bastek66 said:
Nice end, especially compared to A/z's


Season 2 slice of life - Life with Tusk and Ange

That would be amazing. I would definitely watch it. At least give me an ova.

Well, I loved this series. Except for the beginning, it got better the longer it went on. Probably my favorite show in the past two seasons.
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:32 AM

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What a great gundam series. Oh wait a minute...... :P
 
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cross ange be like, starts with ruined story comes with good ending
while aldnoah starts well and ended with ruined ending

Once tusk implied that he wants 4 children from ange and made a cafe named ange cafe.
pretty sure its still incomplete according to final episode since the only succeeded was the cafe

Cross ange after story anyone?
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Mar 29, 2015 10:41 AM

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I really enjoyed watching Cross Ange every week, and it certainly got better later and I'm a sucker for these happy endings. Overall solid 8/10.
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:45 AM

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Tusk got his harem in the end.

Also I think the dragon licking Vivian was her dad. :O
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:51 AM

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Man Embryo's such a loser lol trying to rape Ange like that XD How she was singing with a serious fight not giving a f*** what he was doing to her was awesome! DAT burn Ange gave him doe.
"U're just a perverted Hikikomori old man" ROFL

Dat save doe! Tusk saving Ange like that and getting a face plant into her crotch. This dude's luck is insane :3 And Ange just kept getting hotter and hotter each ep <3

One of the thing's I love about Ange is how she just said screw the people living on Earth XD Let them suffer and live their own lives. Her imouto being a leader of an armed gang was so lol XD

Anyway...hell of a ride. I was really gonna drop this after ep5 but glad I stuck with it because the 2nd cour was lots of fun :3 8/10 ^^
 
Mar 29, 2015 10:55 AM
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Quality wise a 3/10,at one point became an overrated 5/10 because of my enjoyment of this...then the Embryo attempt to have an actual plot happened and this drop to a 4/10.

I preferred this when it was just killing dragons and fanservice.

 
Mar 29, 2015 11:08 AM
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I loved it, Finaly Ange is FREE
But i really want to see more of this great show, second season or ova or movie
I really want to know how's everything after the ending!
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The only thing i hated about the whole thing is Ange sister i wish she's died
but ugh! she's not died, I hate her so much!!!!
 
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You see guys, this is actually secretly Fukuda's sequel to Gundam Seed Destiny where Durandal's Destiny Plan (gene manipulation) gets put into effect by the 9001st Rau le Creuset clone (Embryo, he has the same voice) some time way into the future. Kira Yamato and Setsuna F. Seiei merged together after both ascending to Gundam status after death and became reincarnated as Tusk. Kira Yamato (Tusk) and gang once again decide that the Destiny Plan isn't to their tastes and destroy the proponent for it.

On a more serious note, the ending is very Gundam Seed Destiny-esque with the whole "I am human! Screw gene manipulation!" thing.
 
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^And this is the part where I SHAMEFULLY CONFESS that I haven't watched Gundam Seed...

I aim to change that this spring or summer though. Actually fuck that, I'll probably start this coming week.
 
Mar 29, 2015 11:30 AM

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Wow this show was definitely something. They really went all out with the lewdness, the comedy and action in this series. It's a decent ending and conclusion - a normal happy ending; although I expected some plot twist at the end. Will not reach the levels of Code Geass at all, but still a good anime.

My favorite thing by far was that they used songs as weapons; it's a cool and awesome concept. 8/10 final verdict.
 
Mar 29, 2015 11:34 AM

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What noooooo. Don't spoil az. Guys I watched this first because I didn't really want to go to bed with ange getting raped by fetus man in mind and now I find out the aldnoah zero ending is shit!


Aldnoah Zero ending isn't shit. The whole 2nd season is shit. The final episode is actually decent compared to the rest of it.
 
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Even though we didn't get to see dem babies TwT I still loved this series and the ending. It started off rocky but once it got going it never stopped exciting me

8/10
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:32 PM
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It's hilarious whenever Embryo tries to rape Ange and fails midway. Look at how he struggled to spread her legs. XD

Tusk's famous crotch dive strikes again. Ange could've been space-time travelling from the past/future and somehow her crotch and his face would still find a way to connect. That's how ridiculous this (crotch dive) gimmick has become.

Battle was lackluster, considering this is the finale. Embryo wasn't as strong as he was in other places previously. They defeated an OP villain with such ease, it wasn't exciting at all.

Average finale, but wasn't expecting much from this show anyways. The plot was indeed interesting at one point but began losing it's appeal soon after.
The best thing about this show has been Salamandinay only (and probably Hilda). The rest sucked.
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:33 PM

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Amazing show, amazing end. Solid 9/10 from me.
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:34 PM

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F*CKING AMAZING!!! :O

That Elektra dying was so damn sad :'(
Atleast she put Salia down the right path before she died :'(

Aura is an intelligent mother character, very kind and sweet :'(

Embryo's backstory is a sign of what may come if humans keep messing with space/time.
Very realistic and a good warning for everyone watching.

THOSE SLAPS!!! :O
Brilliant.

The fights were great and the will to fight :'( simply awe inspiring :'(

That ending song and visuals, I don't think i've ever cried that hard before :'(
Simply breathtaking :'(

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What do I rate this?
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:37 PM
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So many plot holes, why does Ange mom know the song and has one of the rings unless the ring she had was actually the one Jill lost, or she was one of Embryo women. In face it would be funny if Embryo was actually Ange father considering he had special taste.

And i swear there were some scene recycled from the earlier episodes. Embryo tried to use the bright slap but it did not work.
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:38 PM

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Surprisingly one of the better shows of this season
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:40 PM
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finaly. shit ange over
 
Mar 29, 2015 12:45 PM
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It was truly impressive for just how badly it started and actually ended up being pretty good. I enjoyed it personally and I thought it was very entertaining. A nice ending with good action.
 
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