Howl no Ugoku Shiro Episode 1 Discussion
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[quote=RazielZero]This movie was a complete mess... Every time they started a storyline they went and completely threw that away, start a new one and do it all over again. I felt like they just couldn't stay with one story, therefore it seems like it didn't have one at all. It was very confusing at times. Some of the characters were likable like Calcifer and the stupid dog. I just didn't really care about the others. The artwork was of course like with every Miyazaki film was beautiful, just like the soundtrack.
Couldn't have said it any better... This is easily the most overhyped anime movie I have ever seen. There are so many inconsistencies at times I couldn't even take it serious. Music and animation was great duh but I didn't like the story or any of the characters. It wouldn't be a stretch to just say this was not a good story.
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Does this mean Howl did see her when he was younger? Has he actually been waiting for her all this time? Those scenes confuse me, so I'm hoping someone might have a good explanation of them.
Same here :D ,there are some confusing scenes that I had to re-think about after finishing the movie, desperately trying gather the missing pieces of the puzzle.
I think your theory or guess is right,as if she magically somehow went to Howl's Past then telling him her name and that she knew how to free him from his spell,and asked him to search for her in the future,maybe that's why he found her in the first place and how he recognized her and see through her old women spell.
but how she went there and why,it's still unknown :D
anything related to magic and time-travel is confusing to be honest xD
Could be great if they patched up some loopholes like how the heck did she turn young (how did the spell break)
mmmm..I'm not sure too,but guess it has something to do with two things - or maybe three -
1- that Sophie's spell is somehow connected to Howl's spell,then when solving his and Calcifer's it will help her too.
2- that her love and affection towards Howl's (romantically) and the others as family and friends can free her from that black magic ? like when she was kind and super nice to the witch treating her as a grandmother,and was able to relaese Howl's heart between her hand.
3- maybe because of the Suliman witch who Striped the Witch of the Waste of her magic so it released Sophie from that spell (or maybe she was actually the one who broke the spell to grant a happy ending for Howl's and Sophie and everyone ?).
I'm really not sure *___*
and what actually started the war? So confusing, but still enjoyable to watch!
as far as I understood,it was because the prince of one of the fighting kingdoms was missing (or kidnapped) so his country started the war to revenge -_- and that lost prince was actually the scarecrow as we discovered at the end, but we still don't know who casted the spell on him causing all this mess,could it be Suliman witch? but what is her benefit then of starting such war ?
but as others said,despite all that I really enjoyed the movie and loved the characters and their interactions ^__^ ,along with sceneries animation and soundtrack,it was a Magical film indeed :D
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This movie was a complete mess... Every time they started a storyline they went and completely threw that away, start a new one and do it all over again. I felt like they just couldn't stay with one story, therefore it seems like it didn't have one at all. It was very confusing at times. Some of the characters were likable like Calcifer and the stupid dog. I just didn't really care about the others. The artwork was of course like with every Miyazaki film was beautiful, just like the soundtrack.
With everything considered, I can only give it a 6/10.
My thoughts EXACTLY! Visuals and music were fantastic...but the story was a complete shambles.
I like most of the Ghibli movies, some of them are great, some decent but still enjoyable. But this movie is honestly overrated, not even the beautiful visuals and sound can make up for the messy plot and the boring characters.
This is one of the weakest Ghibli movies along with Kaze Tachinu and Omoide Poroporo.
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I came to a finding today that hatters (people that make hats) usually end up going mad due to the use of mercury in hat making. This is where we get the saying 'as mad as a hatter'.
Sophie, the main character character was a hat maker, so maybe instead of her experiencing being cursed and a world full of magic, she was actually slowly going insane due to being constantly exposed to mercury.
As we know in the film girl in the area said that she was always working in the shop and never went out much before the story starts.
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Okay, wow... this was very confusing and weird. There were a lot of questions unanswered which made me somewhat uncomfortable about this movie. But it was still really cute and enjoyable. I liked the scarecrow so much that I felt sad when he turned into a fancy goddamn human. And he said Sophie's kiss turned him back and it was all thanks to love lol what the fuck was that all about? He was in love with Sophie too? Oh well, the romance between her and Howl also felt a bit forced. They didn't even know each other that much yet. All I know is now I want a plushie of the scarecrow
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Very charming movie and absolutely beautiful to look at, can't believe this came out in 2004. Like wow.
This was actually my first Ghibli movie so I didn't really know what to expect but I guess they do stay true to all the things I've heard about how fantastical they were.
I personally loved the way they had Sophie transition from being an old woman to her younger self again. It's interesting and is a lovely way to portray Sophie's own insecurity about herself and it also seems to kind of point towards a 'you are what you make of yourself' kinda theme. Sophie felt like she was an old woman only because she thought of herself that way.
Lot of charming scenic sequences in the film made for some really wonderful and magical shots. Loved all those.
Also really liked the plotline about Howl facing his fears and courage.
I guess the only real plotline that was lost on me was the whole war bit, I feel that could've been executed much better and it felt like it only served to further the story of our protagonists than serve as an organic part of the story itself. Nevertheless this was a really good movie and I'm happy with my first experience with a Ghibli film.
This was my first experience too and I agree with you .
Even though parts where a bit rushed a bit and confusing I liked it alot
Not sure if your comment implied it . But it takes a moment but she did break the curse in the end right (edit: a wiki about the film seems to suggest that she did)
Not sure if it was in the movie to but apprently the witch also cursed howl.
I found this Miyazaki's quote "I wanted to convey the message that life is worth living, and I don't think that's changed. The movie is thematically significantly different from the book; while the book focuses on challenging class and gender norms, the film focuses on love, and personal loyalty and the destructive effects of war.
I also read somewhere that it has anti war themes as the director had a opposed options on the Iraq war in 2003
I will give it a 7 for now .
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Well that was abysmal. I watched it a second time to try and see why people liked it and ended up hating it even more. It was an absolute mess nothing made sense. It was like it just skipped over extremely important plot points and hoped for the best. Quite possibly the worst movie I've ever seen. Ever.
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