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Apr 21, 2015 10:01 PM

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animefan8800 said:
That was...beautiful, truly beautiful. I began grinning when I realized Zuka was gonna voice Catherine's sister, but the actual scene was so emotionally powerful. My reaction ended up mirroring her own, and Aoi's, tears and all. To say nothing of the first half of the episode and the director's amazingly humorous crowning moment of awesomeness. One more to go!

Exactly how I felt! Ahh... PA Works...
Apr 25, 2015 3:21 PM

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The Aoi crying scene was so beautiful.

Apr 25, 2015 10:04 PM

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This isn't really how anime is made, is it?
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
Apr 30, 2015 6:37 AM
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The scene with Aoi crying definitely set me off too.. it was perfect. I'm so happy for them.
Apr 30, 2015 9:50 AM

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Superb ending! Really lovely and well I do wonder what the last episode will offer us!
May 1, 2015 10:15 AM
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Finally Zuka chan got a role T.T , director scenes were hilarious best episode!
May 2, 2015 3:25 PM

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This episode was filled with so much win-win. The director storming Nogame's office reminded me of Cowboy Bebop. I love how they were able to resolve both the final episode's direction as well as Nogame's inner demons simultaneously at the meeting. The sheer amount of absurdity that went into this was pure gold.

Zuka's situation really resonated to me and I felt for her as an actor. That's why I was all the happier when she finally landed a role. Aoi's reaction to watching Zuka finally take her first major step as a seiyuu left me speechless. The double meaning behind her lines made it all the more moving, especially how "I'm one step closer to my dream" applied to Catherine's sister, Shizuka, and the five friends in Shirobako.
May 3, 2015 2:28 PM

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omg. when oi-chan started crying, it really hit me right in the feels ;_;
i wanted to cry along with her, i was so happy zuka-chan finally got a role ;w;

May 7, 2015 11:57 AM

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I always thought Zuka would be involved with the project eventually if one of the other Seiyuu had an accident or declining the job, but creating an entire new character by the director and author was really cool

There were certainly great scenes and the best one was Aoi getting emotional after Zuka has voiced Lucy
May 29, 2015 5:33 AM

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I was really surprised when Zuka-chan didn't get the role for Catherine since everyone else was pretty much a part of the anime.

It was just so nice when Kantoku and Author-sama created the little sister char and when Zuka-chan got the role, was just like "oof."

Kantoku once again proves why he's best char of the series!
Jun 12, 2015 7:38 AM

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Takei_Hisa said:
omg. when oi-chan started crying, it really hit me right in the feels ;_;
i wanted to cry along with her, i was so happy zuka-chan finally got a role ;w;

In my case it hit me before hand, the moment there was a talk about new character appearing out of sudden.

There was an obvious follow up after that but when it happened, probably first time since about a year or two I cried on anime scene. I do get teary from time to time but for tears to actually flow out for three minutes, it's really been a year or two. This is also not only on anime but also generally crying at all.

It's good to know that I still have emotions like that.

Now it's time to cry as there is only one episode left!
Jun 22, 2015 7:18 AM

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For reasons of time has accelerated somewhat over time, but in the end the entry of Zuka-chan, it seemed natural and consistent with the objectives both of which Kinoshita Nogame, to give a final that would give satisfaction to the audience and that go in the direction indicated by the latter. The return of Shizuka was almost a thing separated from the main context, very obvious in a way, for us the public, but logical when viewed from the role of director. Interesting storytelling, especially when the context is analyzed other animated adaptations of Nogami, in which the directors were unable or unwilling to understand the ideas of the master. I thought you could give more space to that topic, but that's okay. Who knows what awaits me in the final, I hope will be a great final because so far the series has been well done in many ways; fingers crossed.

Very poignant tears of Aoi and the expression of Zuka-chan, it was all so natural and made in terms of the drawings so amazing.
Jun 26, 2015 2:42 PM
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The moment when Aoi realized that Shizuka is the one who is going to be doing that part... I knew the feels were coming. It didn't make me cry, but I was about to. This show is so real, it sucks you into that reality. It was a great ride, and now I don't want to watch the episode 24, I don't want it to end. :(
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Jun 27, 2015 8:49 AM

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This almost felt like ending.

Aah, the moment you realize those dialogues Zuka was saying while voicing Lucy also applies to her life.
And Aoi's silent tears of joy for her were just the best climax this episode could ask for. Excellent work!

The rest of this episode and especially Aria's finding of her own reason for life is also something very familiar (not only) to her. I like how there were several layers of meanings in some dialogues, really clever writing.
Jun 28, 2015 7:51 AM

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Lucy's phrase about being one step closer to her dream said by Zuka-chan fits perfectly.
She finally got a role and Director said out loud that she was his second option. This will surely boost Zuka-chan's self-esteem!

(Director's Western scene was glorious.)

Best episode. 6/5
Jul 1, 2015 8:22 AM

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Kantoku was majestic! XD

Zuka-chan, finally! I was worried considering the show was almost over and she still didn't get a part :D

OMG Aoi...that scene, I teared up ;_;!!!

That was probably the most natural and touching crying animation I've ever seen!
Jul 9, 2015 1:14 PM

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Win-win sensei ~ Take off!
amazing animation n emotion n everything <3
~_~ !
Jul 18, 2015 9:20 PM

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YES Zuka! I'm so happy for her! <3
Hi there
Jul 20, 2015 5:06 AM

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YAY! Zuka!
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
Jul 21, 2015 8:34 AM
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try not to cry, but cry a lot :'(
that was an amazing eps
Jul 22, 2015 4:38 AM

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bastek66 said:
That's a big change

Can't blame the guy for being so strict about sticking with the manga after that atrocity happened to one of his works....
Jul 28, 2015 7:19 PM

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I got angry. I got hyped. I laughed and I ended up crying by the end of the episode. Shirobako continues to amaze me and make me love this show even more.
Aug 15, 2015 10:01 PM

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This anime's just filled with characters trying to piss you off. Taro, hiraoka, nogame's retarded editor.

In other stories, manga artists always seemed to be pushovers, but in here they become god. Oh lol it seems like the editor was pulling stuff behind their backs.

Being Shizuka wasn't as suffering as I thought!! So happy for her. Tears of happiness.
Aug 31, 2015 2:30 PM

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NihonFalcom said:



this scene right here. :') So many FINALLY moments in this episode. Beautiful.

and LOL Kinoshita Kantoku should be in Street Fighter. HADOU-BELLY, SHORYU-BELLY, and TATSUMAKI-SENPUU BELLY
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Sep 9, 2015 11:24 PM

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fuck, the director needs a cameo in P.A work's next action anime! what a beast!

finally shizuka gets a part, and what a coincidence that it's for 3rd...girls wing or w/e it's called. i guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Sep 15, 2015 11:40 AM

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i really like how Aoi straight up cries really hard, instead of giving Shizuka a happy teary-eyed smile or something. it really showed how much seeing her friend get a role means to Aoi. she was so overwelmed by emotions and just couldn't hold it in. bursting into uncontrollable tears, because of how happy you are for your friend. 10/10
Sep 23, 2015 4:26 AM

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YumeNoMonogatari said:
NihonFalcom said:

This scene moved me more than Shigatsu. Not lying, not trolling.


all the feels were felt on this day, and I shall call it Zuka Day ;_;

epic director is epic

sensei turns out to be a decent person, damn you chazawa (and eat ur doom)

hopefully those 5 meet together next ep to wrap it up nicely
Sep 28, 2015 11:17 AM

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i dont know how the director of shirobako did that, but he just made the most REAL crying scene in any anime i've ever watched, that was genius actually, not everyone could capture that raw emotion and feelings that shown in that last scene where myamori was crying :')

in love with this series hope it gets second season
Oct 2, 2015 2:21 AM
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I didn't expect to actually cry. That "I'm now one step closer to my dream!" scene was Clannad-class tearjerker.
Oct 2, 2015 10:42 PM

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Aaaw that ending was so sweet <3 Miyamori crying for Sazaki was amazing. So happy the editor got what he deserved, I had a pretty good feeling he was pulling the wool over the creator's eyes the entire time.
Oct 8, 2015 1:46 PM

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Bikdu866 said:
animefan8800 said:
That was...beautiful, truly beautiful. I began grinning when I realized Zuka was gonna voice Catherine's sister, but the actual scene was so emotionally powerful. My reaction ended up mirroring her own, and Aoi's, tears and all. To say nothing of the first half of the episode and the director's amazingly humorous crowning moment of awesomeness. One more to go!

Exactly how I felt! Ahh... PA Works...

I'm pretty sure this show will get a 10/10 from me. :D

Really good episode, but not enough to make me sniff. :'v
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Oct 13, 2015 8:35 PM

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"I'm now one step closer to my dream!"
Oct 19, 2015 11:08 AM
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This is my first time post.

I was prepared for emotional scene after Aoi realised Zuka got her chance...but I never thought they going to made it this way...the way they portrait Aoi's emotion was so natural...I was so moved. Totally far exceed my expectation.

I also want to emphasize how hard to become seiyuu in Japan. It like becoming a singer, many people struggling so hard but still may never become one...but now Zuka got her doubt Aoi was so happy about it.
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Dec 26, 2015 12:11 PM

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Best episode yet.
Loved the director's development as he takes charge to stand for what he believes is best for the viewers and his team. Love how he and the author connected over the story -- shows how passionate they are as creators.
My favorite part though was how Zuka landed the role when she least expected it. "I am now one step closer to my dream" -- that made me tear up as Aoi was full fledge crying at how moving and true that was. Glad to see all the girls working hard no matter how many setbacks or internal turmoils come their way; this show is truly inspiring in that sense!
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Jan 3, 2016 3:05 PM

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Woah, I didn't expect to find myself crying at the end of the episode. What a cathartic, moving, and powerful scene. I'm so f**king happy now!
Jan 9, 2016 11:53 AM
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I just finished the series...

My god was that ending scene beautiful... i loved it.

I was legit mad when she wasn't getting any scenes and just got cut for the Catherine part.... and when she was watching VA's on tv was really sad... but that ending scene for EP 23.... amazing.
Jan 10, 2016 12:34 PM

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Miyamori crying and trying to hide her tears.. As an expert of anime after watching this series I can tell that the key animator did a terrific job here, haha.
Jan 15, 2016 8:29 PM
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Magito said:
Zuka finally gets a role... *sniff*

Finally...finally...I am so...happy for her... *sniff*


Rorek said:
Best episode of the series 10/10
I loved how she hid behind the book
Javera said:
KawaiiKato said:

Zuka getting rejected multiple times finally gets to end show with a bang.

This was exactly what my reaction was when Zuka got that phone call.


best moments... :')
episode 23 11/10
Jan 25, 2016 4:39 AM

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Damn, best episode. This episode was very well-done and touching for the most part, especially the ending. The soundtrack/background music was used very well throughout too. Loved the western style when the director Kinoshita was entering the building to meet the author, and their convo was very nice ~

6/5 ep

Feb 13, 2016 12:03 PM

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This and episode 12 are the best episodes, I teared up seeing Aoi cry like that. The feelings were too real. 11/10.
Apr 12, 2016 3:54 PM

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Really, I could have easily gone emotional with those lines...
Can't blame Aoi.

When they were wondering who was going to be Lucy's VA Suzuka popped in my head immediately and I was like "Yes yes yes, call her now!"

The episode did not make me cry, but damn, it was about to...
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Apr 16, 2016 8:58 AM

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ginko29 said:
That episode was such a masterpiece. Suspenseful, funny and moving. Everything was here.
Seriously, I can't believe how better this series is getting with each new episode.

Absolutely my favorite episode of the series. The crying scene was so good because of all the work put into the series up to this point. Grade A. :)
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Apr 30, 2016 2:27 AM
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All those street fighter references XD they are just the best
Ah that really made my day ;)
Jun 7, 2016 11:52 AM

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Finally, Zuka got to do some VA for the show. I really loved the ending! GG! :)
Jun 11, 2016 7:55 AM

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I liked when the director and manga creator comes to mutual understanding. Thats how you make a perfect adaptation anime.

I didnt expect that Shizuka will finally have a role in this episode but I also like the alternate direction where she didnt get a role is good too.

I have seen enough masterpiece anime so this episode, i cant say its best but likeable in very good way.

I am ready for the final episode.

Jun 28, 2016 12:55 PM

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This was all I needed like this could have been the finale. I'm glad it wasn't I'm actually pretty sad I'm almost done with this show but it could have been. For starters I was hoping from the start we'd get a scene with Nogame-sensei (er...san) by the end. It would have felt beneath the show to just have him be some unseen, impossible to please obstacle the entire time he needed some depth. We get that early on when Hiraoka explains why he's been such a pain. One of his previous works got a lazy terrible anime adaptation and it reflected poorly on him as a creator. So after that hilarious scene in which he appears in one of the mascot asides as literal God stopping production the Director goes to finally have his fateful sit down with him.

This scene was just plain triumphant. The beginning was gleefully goofy, from the Director ably aping Clint Eastwood as he marches into the building, to his using belly based fighting moves to repel those who try to stop him. His sit down with Nogame was also more quietly exciting. It did a good job of outlining Aerial Girls Squad as a personal work for both of them and the conclusion they reach of how to end it felt natural and clever. I also liked that the editor got his just desserts. Not a huge problem or anything, but I was kind of curious for an explanation for how terrible he's been. Did he just have contempt for the studio or was he lazy? Probably lazy, that's the vibe I got.

Most exciting for me though was Zuka finally and unexpectedly getting her big break. I like all five of the girls, but like many viewers Zuka's constant frustrations made me extremely sympathetic to the character. When Nogame said he wanted to add another character, I can't be the only one who snapped at attention, the final piece falling in place. It was a heart string tugging big moment to end the episode on. All five girls have contributed to a single production, all is right with the world. I'm sure Aoi wasn't the only one with tears in her eyes, as Zuka happily chirps her character's line that she's closer to her dream. I also thought maybe it's just me but it seemed to mirror the plot of the anime they're working on. Ultimately Aria seems to recall Miyamori as both of their main conflicts is coming up with a reason to do what they're doing. But the Director's insistence that fans wouldn't be happy with the heroine just failing and never flying again, seemed to reflect Zuka's arc perfectly.

As everything has been relatively righted, and we enter the home stretch I find one of the things I'm most excited for in the finale is seeing all the girls celebrating together as the series that they've all worked on closes. This shows going to have a hard time, giving even a small moment to all of its many characters but it's a tightrope act I'm eager to see.
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Jun 29, 2016 4:30 PM

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I came for the animu production, what the heck is this ;_;

Stop playing with my feelings! ;_;

Jul 25, 2016 1:20 PM

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-Director's not picking up again, just like for the Exodus afterparty, although this time the calls are actually plot-relevant
-Man I was just getting used to not having to listen to Chazawa for a few episodes
-This guy is legitimately infuriating
-MusAni pres gives a talk to director
-Did they not think to scan the printed emails for Nogame's direct contact information before?
-Am I... watching the right show anymore?
-Wait, the journey to Nogame was real? It was pretty nicely animated but it just felt so out of place.
-Nogame seems a hell of a lot more reasonable than the goons under him
-Oh well that's why he seemed that way
-Pretty satisfying to see Chazawa get yelled at by Nogame
-The instant they mentioned needing a voice actor for Lucy that somewhat resembled Catherine but sounded younger I got goosebumps
-Yeah there was like no way they weren't using Shizuka for that part
-Aww, the recording studio scene was all kinds of adorable
-Roro and Mimuji are the focus of the ED, with a different anime club group shot at the end

Lovely episode. I enjoyed pretty much every single thing about this episode, although the Director's march to Nogame was kind of out of place.
Jul 30, 2016 5:37 AM

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That was amazing writting right here.

"A young girl gets her first minor voice acting role" ... how did they make thousands of people cry with just that?

The way it has been executed is a real proof of talent.

It's probably easier to make people cry when two personns finally fall in love, get reunited, get saved or when someone die in an anime, but not so easy when it's "just" about getting a job.

and I (we) broke in tears too.

all the details are right. It's so perfect it works and it's amazing.

"a young girl gets her first minor voice acting role" : make me cry again!
Aug 3, 2016 3:19 PM

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Wow. I was NOT expecting this show to make me cry. What a lovely scene. Gives me a little hope for my future.
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