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| Talk or don't talk. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
ToG25thBaam said: Talk or don't talk. I shall never talk. Aside from now. |
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| Also, I found this picture. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149324/3515270-1314632387-031.j.jpg |
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celeschere said: Hamon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ripple Ripple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nen) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamon |
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| ...And the award for most pointless thread goes to Dragonage2ftw, for "Stupid Click-Bait Thread 22987". You get some points back for this post however. |
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| Who would want ripple , ripple is shit , I would rather have za warudo. |
| Given the right situation , the right story , anyone can be shaped into Snake. -Revolver Ocelot , MGS2 |
WandererRedux said: ...And the award for most pointless thread goes to Dragonage2ftw, for "Stupid Click-Bait Thread 22987". You get some points back for this post however. Actually, I was hoping that someone else would explain what I meant inside of spoilers. I kinda don't remember how to do spoiler tags on MAL. |
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Akanezora said: celeschere said: Hamon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ripple Ripple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nen) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamon HAHA! You're still as witty as ever. |
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| I'm just hoping the anime does Part 4 |
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| They'd better do Part 4. I want to see my damn Rohan. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| When did this become F/SN forum? |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
DawnJ said: Just wait till the priests with their Pucci avatars show up.When did this become F/SN forum? |
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| close this thread thx |
| I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. |
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Mikasa said: Part 4 is much better than Part 3.I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. Just saying. |
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gyro785 said: I`m assuming you are talking about the way they treated Joseph? Yeah…I gotta mixed feeling about that… Actually, I was referring to the fact that the ripple doesn't even get mentioned in Part 4, but yes, I have mixed feelings about that as well. |
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ak184 said: Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. Actually, "the Spin" (the concept that was introduced in part 7) didnt replace stands, in fact only 3 characters in part 7 used it (one of wich combined it with his stand techinique), all other allies/enemies used stands. Currently, all characters in part 8 are stand users This is stuff you don't learn by reading about a series on wikipedia, I guess. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. From what I've seen of your complaints, what you actually have a problem with is how the show's fights felt less "creative" with the introduction of Stands (which I do agree with; the Stand's in this part are rather bland and thus make a lot of the fights feel less memorable). However I can assure you that this is remedied in later parts where Stands are far more creative both in concept and in application. If you don't believe me and don't mind mildly spoiling yourself on Parts 3-4, look up what the next JoJo protagonist's Stand can can do. It's pretty insane. |
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| Stardust Crusaders was made to ease readers into the idea of Stands. If Araki just went straight into everyone would be so confused and jarred by such a drastic change from the Ripple. Araki saved the better for later, and I guarantee you that people will feel differently once part 4 hits. |
GoyitoSatan said: Stardust Crusaders was made to ease readers into the idea of Stands. If Araki just went straight into everyone would be so confused and jarred by such a drastic change from the Ripple. Araki saved the better for later, and I guarantee you that people will feel differently once part 4 hits. This is a really smart post. Kudos. |
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Misoru-kun said: Seems like there is a misconception among a few people: Hamon and the Ripple are the exact same thing; Hamon is just the romanized name for the Ripple. But yeah, Part 4 is great (my favorite of the parts I've read (3,4, and 6 (currently reading 5 and 7 (parentheses are great)))). Um, that's kind of the joke. |
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| [quote=ak184] Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. oh lol |
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| [quote=LeturLefr] ak184 said: Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. oh lol You summed it up. |
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Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. Only three characters use Spin in part 7, with two of them having Stands and the third one using a special ability of Spin that is very reminiscent of later parts Stands. And part 8 leaves the concept behind as far as we can tell. So, if you don't enjoy Stands, just drop the series. It'll be way better for you and for us, fans of JoJo that have to listen to your complaints. EDIT: and I just noticed someone replied to him before. Well, whatever, I'll leave my reply |
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| Not to be offensive, but I really don't get this preoccupation with the Ripple. What's so great about it? It just seems like a generic "This power does whatever it needs to" ability. It kills vampires, heals, can magnetize living objects, turn hair into a bulletproof shield, etc. It's just way too... all-consuming. Narrowing down abilities with Stands seems much more effective, and even then we still see that Araki is able to make a simple power have just as many applications as the Ripple did without needing to invent new usages for it out of thin air. |
Hobgoblin2099 said: Not to be offensive, but I really don't get this preoccupation with the Ripple. What's so great about it? It just seems like a generic "This power does whatever it needs to" ability. It kills vampires, heals, can magnetize living objects, turn hair into a bulletproof shield, etc. It's just way too... all-consuming. Narrowing down abilities with Stands seems much more effective, and even then we still see that Araki is able to make a simple power have just as many applications as the Ripple did without needing to invent new usages for it out of thin air. I agree with this 100% |
Fadeout4 said: Hobgoblin2099 said: Not to be offensive, but I really don't get this preoccupation with the Ripple. What's so great about it? It just seems like a generic "This power does whatever it needs to" ability. It kills vampires, heals, can magnetize living objects, turn hair into a bulletproof shield, etc. It's just way too... all-consuming. Narrowing down abilities with Stands seems much more effective, and even then we still see that Araki is able to make a simple power have just as many applications as the Ripple did without needing to invent new usages for it out of thin air. I agree with this 100% Ditto. People are just trying to be hipsters. Even Araki said he didn't feel like the Ripple was going anywhere after Part 2. |
| Don't get me wrong, I think stands are much better than Hamon, it's just weird that they don't use it anymore all of sudden. I think Joesepf should Jotaro teach Hamon and then he should use it al least a few time before it got completely irrelevant (maybe even combine Stands and Hamon at one point? Something like that would be cool). |
Jonas_The_Jay said: Don't get me wrong, I think stands are much better than Hamon, it's just weird that they don't use it anymore all of sudden. I think Joesepf should Jotaro teach Hamon and then he should use it al least a few time before it got completely irrelevant (maybe even combine Stands and Hamon at one point? Something like that would be cool). There's no point in Hamon being around after Part 2. It's only useful against vampires. Would it have been interesting to see it used against DIO or Vanilla Ice? Perhaps, but past them, it has no use seeing as there are no other vampires. And in the first place, to fight a Stand, one needs to have a Stand. |
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Hobgoblin2099 said: Not to be offensive, but I really don't get this preoccupation with the Ripple. What's so great about it? It just seems like a generic "This power does whatever it needs to" ability. It kills vampires, heals, can magnetize living objects, turn hair into a bulletproof shield, etc. It's just way too... all-consuming. Narrowing down abilities with Stands seems much more effective, and even then we still see that Araki is able to make a simple power have just as many applications as the Ripple did without needing to invent new usages for it out of thin air. Because they haven't read part 4 :( |
he takes what he's lost and discards what he's won, he's every bit as alive as you and I |
Jazzy_Maz said: Jonas_The_Jay said: Don't get me wrong, I think stands are much better than Hamon, it's just weird that they don't use it anymore all of sudden. I think Joesepf should Jotaro teach Hamon and then he should use it al least a few time before it got completely irrelevant (maybe even combine Stands and Hamon at one point? Something like that would be cool). There's no point in Hamon being around after Part 2. It's only useful against vampires. This is not true at all, Hamon can do all kinds of crazy shit, for example reducing pain and healing. How is this not helpful? Also Hamon makes you age slightly slower, so there is acually no reason NOT to train and use it. But like I said, I like Stands and I think they're a great addition the show, but I just think the transition from Hamon to Stands is way too abrupt. |
Jonas_The_Jay said: Jazzy_Maz said: There's no point in Hamon being around after Part 2. It's only useful against vampires. This is not true at all, Hamon can do all kinds of crazy shit, for example reducing pain and healing. How is this not helpful? Also Hamon makes you age slightly slower, so there is acually no reason NOT to train and use it. But like I said, I like Stands and I think they're a great addition the show, but I just think the transition from Hamon to Stands is way too abrupt. They already fought DIO with hamon, why would they need to do it again? The introduction of stands gave people their own unique powers and stopped grouping them together into one type of power that they could do anything with. Like yeah, it's useful, but really, how many times did we see hamon get used in part 3? Not very many it was just "oh it's Joseph's other power, since Hermit Purple is so weak, at least he has this still." |
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Jonas_The_Jay said: This is not true at all, Hamon can do all kinds of crazy shit, for example reducing pain and healing. How is this not helpful? Also Hamon makes you age slightly slower, so there is acually no reason NOT to train and use it. But like I said, I like Stands and I think they're a great addition the show, but I just think the transition from Hamon to Stands is way too abrupt. While its effects are helpful, to fight a Stand, one needs a Stand. The existence of Hamon wouldn't really lend itself to creating complex battles that can be orchestrated with Stands. Hamon served its purpose but couldn't really go anywhere past where it had. Battle Tendency showed us that Araki wanted to make fights that were more based on strategy than the actual exchange of blows. Hamon doesn't lend itself to that nearly as much as Stands do. While the change is indeed somewhat abrupt, Araki took time to introduce Stands of higher complexities to ease into the system. |
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| ok I take it back. Since Hamon was used at least once against Part 3 DIO, I'm somewhat satisfied now. I actually thought Joeseph would NEVER use it again after The Empress. |
Jonas_The_Jay said: He used it against Mariah btw. and it gave him a winok I take it back. Since Hamon was used at least once against Part 3 DIO, I'm somewhat satisfied now. I actually thought Joeseph would NEVER use it again after The Empress. |
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Jonas_The_Jay said: ok I take it back. Since Hamon was used at least once against Part 3 DIO, I'm somewhat satisfied now. I actually thought Joeseph would NEVER use it again after The Empress. He used it to win against Mariah. |
Fadeout4 said: Jonas_The_Jay said: ok I take it back. Since Hamon was used at least once against Part 3 DIO, I'm somewhat satisfied now. I actually thought Joeseph would NEVER use it again after The Empress. He used it to win against Mariah. Oh it seems I forgot that :x |
Jonas_The_Jay said: Jazzy_Maz said: There's no point in Hamon being around after Part 2. It's only useful against vampires. This is not true at all, Hamon can do all kinds of crazy shit, for example reducing pain and healing. How is this not helpful? Also Hamon makes you age slightly slower, so there is acually no reason NOT to train and use it. But like I said, I like Stands and I think they're a great addition the show, but I just think the transition from Hamon to Stands is way too abrupt. "Slightly slower?" Don't you mean "incredibly slowly?" |
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WandererRedux said: Mikasa said: I agree, lack of ripple was a big factor in eliminating my interest in the execution of the show. I think Ripples are like the stuff they introduce after stands so I might pick up p.7-8. From what I've seen of your complaints, what you actually have a problem with is how the show's fights felt less "creative" with the introduction of Stands (which I do agree with; the Stand's in this part are rather bland and thus make a lot of the fights feel less memorable). However I can assure you that this is remedied in later parts where Stands are far more creative both in concept and in application. If you don't believe me and don't mind mildly spoiling yourself on Parts 3-4, look up what the next JoJo protagonist's Stand can can do. It's pretty insane. Is it Part 5? I think I'll check that out. I was hoping P3 would only be 25 episodes or something so we can move on to see the rest. |
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Mikasa said: WandererRedux said: From what I've seen of your complaints, what you actually have a problem with is how the show's fights felt less "creative" with the introduction of Stands (which I do agree with; the Stand's in this part are rather bland and thus make a lot of the fights feel less memorable). However I can assure you that this is remedied in later parts where Stands are far more creative both in concept and in application. If you don't believe me and don't mind mildly spoiling yourself on Parts 3-4, look up what the next JoJo protagonist's Stand can can do. It's pretty insane. I was hoping P3 would only be 25 episodes or something so we can move on to see the rest. ... |
Mikasa said: Is it Part 5? I think I'll check that out. I was hoping P3 would only be 25 episodes or something so we can move on to see the rest. Part 5 has some pretty good powers that's for sure (and arguably the best fights), but I was actually referring to Josuke's Stand Crazy Diamond and its ability to "restore" whatever it touches/destroys. It's pretty much the swiss army knife of Stands. In terms of Stands basically P4 is good for unique (and not always combat focused) powers being used in fights, P5 is good for seeing the application of superficially basic powers and what happens when multiple Stand powers are combined, P6 for OP and strange stand powers and P7-8 for a slighlty different spin on Stands. The powers Stands use also get increasingly abstract both in form and application. I'd still encourage you to check out the other parts, just keep in mind that each subsequent part is comparable in length to SC (Part 4 has more chapters, while Part 7 is more dense as the series became a monthly seinin instead of a weekly shonen). It helps that fights do tend to be longer, that enemies tend to be more fleshed out and that there are more objectives than just "Defeat main badguy+minions!" going on between fights however. |
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WandererRedux said: Mikasa said: Is it Part 5? I think I'll check that out. I was hoping P3 would only be 25 episodes or something so we can move on to see the rest. Part 5 has some pretty good powers that's for sure (and arguably the best fights), but I was actually referring to Josuke's Stand Crazy Diamond and its ability to "restore" whatever it touches/destroys. It's pretty amusing to see how much uses can be squeezed out of the ability to fix stuff that goes beyond fixing up friends after battle. Giorno's stand capabilities are pretty random tbh, with one of them being forgotten after it's introduction. Still pretty cool though. |
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