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Mar 15, 2015 7:39 AM

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With only a few episode left, it feels like the finale is going to be a normal one. I think it would be good to end the battle next episode and have a peaceful final episode.

Ange, Hilda and Tusk on a threesome now lol :P that panty charm :D
 
Mar 15, 2015 8:40 AM

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No matter how this series is going to end, I am sure Ange had become one of the most memorable Anime character for me from this decade.

This x100. Ange is such a great main character. Unforgettable!
 
Mar 15, 2015 8:53 AM

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lol wtf! so ange x hilda x tusk three way is gonna happen? man I wish i understand Japanese better lol

That kiss though...

Maybe that will really happen lol

Sylvia still being a brat. She is so annoying. Jill arrives in the battlefield and now has to face Salia.
 
Mar 15, 2015 9:14 AM

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As amusing as always ^_^
I don't want this to end ;-;
 
Mar 15, 2015 9:35 AM

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LOL Hilda has fallen in love with Ange. What a surprise.
Who wants used pantsu as a lucky charm? Seriously? LOL

And the one picture in Jill's chamber, is that Embryo?

 
Mar 15, 2015 9:59 AM

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That kiss Ange gave Hilda wasn't a pity kiss or anything. Ange's just straight up bi and knows that Tusk won't leave her even if she's unfaithful. The signs that Ange's bi was there from the beginning. In the end, Ange's taking command(of the battle), not Hilda so it's not really ALL about Ange giving Hilda confidence.

About the recycled scenes. I barely noticed, plus... Gundam 00(one of the most popular non-fukuda giant robot anime's) has as many recycled scenes. Also, I doubt Fukuda get's that much budget, since Seed and Seed Destiny's fanbase is so miniscule.

Rosalie and Chris getting some focus next episode. Also... wtf? Vivian Onee-sama (That actually made me laugh out loud!) Setting up the scene where Jill saves Salia or horribly fails and they both die, though I suspect Salia will probably get a happy ending (she has figures set to release.) Also, I can understand Jill being depressed. They showed the picture of a guy and her wearing a wedding ring for this final battle. So... she didn't just abandon Libertus for Embryo, but her failure resulted in the death of her husband.
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Mar 15, 2015 10:07 AM

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Dat HildaxAnge yuri :3 She sure is bisexual isn't she :P Hilda was cute there. Didn't expect Ange to be the one to kiss her XD Good for Hilda ^^;

Dat lucky charm :O Blushing Ange <3 !! I want it >.< I need more ass shots now that she's going commando XD

And man the way Ange just shot that guy was so awesome to see!! And Sylvie pissing herself XD So satisfying :P

Seems like Embryo isn't really all knowing. He was surprised Ange was there and at Tusk being alive.
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:21 AM

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Ange is badass.
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:31 AM

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I feel like I should just add Ange to my favorite character list after this episode

All hail the harem princess
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:34 AM

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Ange is better harem lead than most of male harem leads -=)
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:45 AM

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10/10 ep. so much stuff development done and Ange being a true leader :'(

Stranger : you don't care about us?
Ange : f*ck no lol *headshot*

Angelize looks so good in violet XD


That kiss <3 that harem <3 that panty <3
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:50 AM

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That was a great episode. Everyone got in the action, little sister learned to walk, ex-commander going to likely wreck Salia next episode, dat kiss, dat good luck charm, etc.
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:58 AM

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Finally Ange and Hilda kiss Halle-freaking-lujah! That was the highlight of the whole episode to me I've been waiting for it since they bonded in the brig. xD

Hilda and Ange are easily the best female characters from this season and last I added them to my favorite female list.

I liked what I saw in the preview Chris and Rosalie making up! Salia needs to burn though and burn fast.

I hope Ange scared the bitch right out of Sylvia that was badass. xD
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Mar 15, 2015 12:25 PM
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Ange is taking Tusk's (supposed) job of building a harem! That Yuri kiss though.. :3

That pantsu will increase Tusk luck factor by 11. But Ange sure is bold enough to go commando and face off against rapist Embryo.

I like how Ange didn't hesitate even a moment to shoot the guy. Sylvia pissing herself was hilarious though! XD

Just average episode. Needed more Salamandinay screentime.
 
Mar 15, 2015 12:34 PM

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The war battle in this episode was good.

Sylvia can walk again.
 
Mar 15, 2015 12:40 PM
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I think the show hasn't redeemed itself from the downward spiral from ep 14 and onward. I'm not even going to comment on Ange's choice of memento.

Well, at least she kissed Hilda.
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Mar 15, 2015 1:02 PM
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Kiss and panties, brilliant! ;)

Great "to the final" episode. :)

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Stranger : you don't care about us?
Ange : f*ck no lol *headshot*


Très Rorschach! :D
 
Mar 15, 2015 1:23 PM

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jackaus said:
more fukuda laziness with recycled scene in the second half of the battle sequences... i wont point out what is that but it is a big OTZ... bad habits are hard to change, hopefully the BD patch up the obvious Mistakes like those Seed HD remakes ....


Can you guys please stop blaming Fukuda for everything? It's not like Gundam Seed and Seed Destiny are the only Sunrise anime to use stock footage.


When you compare this show to pretty much everything Sunrise has done in the past little while the difference is staggering. I usually associate Sunrise with some of the best animation quality and actual degrees of motion and movement for anime (they animate a lot of unnecessary movements between point a and point b of a cut in most stuff that if you're looking to cut corners would be among the first things to go normally) in general but this show is pretty much the worst looking thing they've done in the modern era. I don't think it's a coincidence that pretty much all the projects Fukuda has managed have ended up well below the studios standard and even he said something on twitter akin to embarrassing the studios by not living up to it's standards for animation quality.

From what I heard the sub-division that animated Cross Ange Nerima Studio might be closing down after it wraps up though to which I'd say good riddance as everything they've done for TV has looked atrocious compared to the the rest of the numbered divisions.

In any case whenever Sunrise shows get to tackle a princess character they tend to go turbo overdrive on the concept for better or worse.
 
Mar 15, 2015 1:48 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
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Can you guys please stop blaming Fukuda for everything? It's not like Gundam Seed and Seed Destiny are the only Sunrise anime to use stock footage.


When you compare this show to pretty much everything Sunrise has done in the past little while the difference is staggering. I usually associate Sunrise with some of the best animation quality and actual degrees of motion and movement for anime (they animate a lot of unnecessary movements between point a and point b of a cut in most stuff that if you're looking to cut corners would be among the first things to go normally) in general but this show is pretty much the worst looking thing they've done in the modern era. I don't think it's a coincidence that pretty much all the projects Fukuda has managed have ended up well below the studios standard and even he said something on twitter akin to embarrassing the studios by not living up to it's standards for animation quality.

From what I heard the sub-division that animated Cross Ange Nerima Studio might be closing down after it wraps up though to which I'd say good riddance as everything they've done for TV has looked atrocious compared to the the rest of the numbered divisions.

In any case whenever Sunrise shows get to tackle a princess character they tend to go turbo overdrive on the concept for better or worse.


I was talking about stock footage, not about the animation quality. Although I do agree with what you said.
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:02 PM

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so there really is no explanation for tusk and momoka. even a bullshit "the villkiss power revived them" explanation would have been better or a flashback that shows how they somewhow survived, but nope nothing.

good luck pantsu haha


good episode


How many times does it have to be said? Momoka survived cause frying pan and Tusk survived cause fire-proof (and apparently pressure-proof) cloak shielded him from the explosion.

Actually, if a mofo can survive getting his Gouf stabbed by a beam sword, dropping into the sea AND exploding, then I can't see how this is worse.

It makes perfect sense, like the rest of this show.


Also: finally that Ange x Hilda!
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:07 PM

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Badass Ange. This show turned out to be surprising entertaining.
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:09 PM

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LOL, that good luck charm Ange gave to Tusk. To think that for a moment, I expected something else. How could I! It was so... Cross Ange though :P

Also, seems that the yuri shippers weren't forgotten. Ange'd make a great harem lead!

But the highlight of the episode for me has definitely got to be Ange telling Sylvia off, as well as her headshotting the dude from the angry mob. I understand not killing her because after all, Ange was behaving in a similar fashion when she was still a princess but I would've seriously been pissed if she decided act as a kind onee-sama towards her now. I couldn't have asked for better tbh.



That's our Ange right there.
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:22 PM

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Ange X Hilda.
That's it, Ange's Alpha Level is over the sky; Kira Yamato, A Dragonborn Princess, A Maid, and Now The Twintail.

Curiously, Hilda shares the voice with Fate Testarossa, Ange with Nanoha...
so, I pretty much saw this comming sooner or later.


This show becoming a 10/10 for me if it continues so good until the end.
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:39 PM

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Curiously, Hilda shares the voice with Fate Testarossa, Ange with Nanoha...
so, I pretty much saw this comming sooner or later.


Actually, Hilda shares her voice with Nanoha, and Ange with Fate.
 
Mar 15, 2015 2:46 PM

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No matter how this series is going to end, I am sure Ange had become one of the most memorable Anime character for me from this decade.

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I feel like I should just add Ange to my favorite character list after this episode

All hail the harem princess


Oh believe me, I've been thinking for a while now who to remove to make room for her and holding off on it 'till the show's over. The fact that I got more than one option makes it harder though :P
 
Mar 15, 2015 3:01 PM

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xSanox said:
so there really is no explanation for tusk and momoka. even a bullshit "the villkiss power revived them" explanation would have been better or a flashback that shows how they somewhow survived, but nope nothing.

good luck pantsu haha


good episode


How many times does it have to be said? Momoka survived cause frying pan and Tusk survived cause fire-proof (and apparently pressure-proof) cloak shielded him from the explosion.

Actually, if a mofo can survive getting his Gouf stabbed by a beam sword, dropping into the sea AND exploding, then I can't see how this is worse.

It makes perfect sense, like the rest of this show.


Also: finally that Ange x Hilda!


a frying pan saved momoka from getting hit by a truck that then fell off the cliff with her and exploded

tusk is also wolverine with super healing since he has no bullet wounds from when he was shot or any cuts from when momoka was mind controlled



creating a shocking sacrifice of not just one of the characters that are close to ange but both and then going "lol nope" the very next episode with completely stupid explanations.. just no

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You forget that Mana can heal. Momoka healed him.
 
Mar 15, 2015 4:16 PM
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xSanox said:
Thespacepope said:


How many times does it have to be said? Momoka survived cause frying pan and Tusk survived cause fire-proof (and apparently pressure-proof) cloak shielded him from the explosion.

Actually, if a mofo can survive getting his Gouf stabbed by a beam sword, dropping into the sea AND exploding, then I can't see how this is worse.

It makes perfect sense, like the rest of this show.


Also: finally that Ange x Hilda!


a frying pan saved momoka from getting hit by a truck that then fell off the cliff with her and exploded

tusk is also wolverine with super healing since he has no bullet wounds from when he was shot or any cuts from when momoka was mind controlled



creating a shocking sacrifice of not just one of the characters that are close to ange but both and then going "lol nope" the very next episode with completely stupid explanations.. just no



To believe that the "reason" Momoka and Tusk survived in pristine condition, you have to believe the following.

A frying pan that Momoka could not possibly be hiding without it showing stopped a bullet at close range.

The bottom of a frying pan when exposed by the bullet impact was dark red only for that one second.

Getting hit by a car, slamming through guard rails and concrete, falling off a cliff, and having the same car land and explode on you does not kill you.

Momoka somehow survived that without her shield of Mana (I rewatched the scene to make sure), which dissipated after she got hit by the car.

Getting shot in the shoulder and the heart (bulletproof vests just doesn't seem to work really well in this anime) does not kill you

Detonating a suicide vest does not kill you.

Tusk has a magic suit that mysteriously appeared and disappeared in the nanosecond a big ass explosion turned the area into a crater.





Or I can just believe that the writing sucks.
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Mar 15, 2015 4:54 PM
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My excuse for the tusk/momoka survival is that Ange also has the same materialization powers that Embryo has. The way the vilkss materialized there just isn't right even the way it teleports and recovers itself. So ange subconsciously revived momoka/tusk using her powers, and just doesn't realize it was her powers yet.

But due to the lack of quality animation I guess this isn't the case..Lots of other iffy tiny things too..

But it would be a good way to settle everything. That world is actual some sort of virtual world like the matrix or something similar to that or an alternate world and Embryo/Ange just have god like powers to do w/e they want.
 
Mar 15, 2015 5:05 PM

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Finally. Ange x Hilda. Now all the people who have been saying Ange isn't interested in Hilda can GTFO.
 
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Ignore the people who say... "Because asspull this writing sucks"
This anime, has been asspulling since the beginning. The Vylkiss healed when it used to need a mechanic to fix it. It can teleport to where Ange is, and can warp across dimensions because Ange wills it. That thing should be called ASSPULL the machine and I wouldn't have it any other way. The plot of this show shines in the overall world and character dynamics, not physics and reality. The machines never reload, and don't need gas even though they don't run on mana.

Tusk catching up to Embryo and Ange in the first place makes no sense. Ange had flown miles and Tusk caught up on foot in a matter of seconds. Momoka, the maid with no combat experience who lived a sheltered life like Ange, actually escaped the Misurugi Empire and met up with Ange at Arzenal all by herself. Ange, with combat experience gets bit by a snake the moment she leaves and almost died so how did Momoka manage it?

What matters isn't that Tusk and Momoka came back with no explanation. What matters is that their absence had a profound impact on Ange. Fukuda had them "die" to show us a different side to Ange, but not make that permanent because she would've committed suicide if they didn't come back.

Eren Yager, Himura Kenshin, Naruto, Setsuna F Seiei have survived incidents that also make no sense but no one calls them asspulls because it ends in a result that they wanted.
 
Mar 15, 2015 5:17 PM
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i just lol how ange is a more bad ass character then 9/10 male leads in anime
ANGE FTW
 
Mar 15, 2015 5:26 PM
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Finally. Ange x Hilda. Now all the people who have been saying Ange isn't interested in Hilda can GTFO.


Dude, that's exactly why I didn't want this to happen, It was obvious this was gonna bring back some Yurifags. Ange didn't blush, didn't say she loved her, it was Fukuda throwing breadcrumbs at the shippers to stop complaining, a pity kiss. She went through a full 12-hour sex marathon with Tusk, declared her love, give her pantsu to him and there are still some tards thinking their ship hasn't sink yet. DEAL WITH IT.
 
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Ange is building her own harem, hehehe


anyhow, some scenes were reused, that good luck charm, and that kiss o_0

last two episodes left
 
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episode was hella good despite the animation but that was never the strongest part of this series in the first place lol

have no clue if that ange x hilda moment was simply fanservice for shippers or Ange pleasing her harem nonetheless haters gonna hate


just glad this episode brought back the Ange i love, got her little sis back on her feet :P
 
Mar 15, 2015 6:26 PM
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You forget that Mana can heal. Momoka healed him.


However, Embryo was already beginning his apocalypse, so mana stopped working. Remember that Momoka said on the island that she couldn't use mana anymore = she couldn't have healed him.

That also doesn't solve the question on how they made it back to the island without a vehicle.
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Mar 15, 2015 6:29 PM

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i just lol how ange is a more bad ass character then 9/10 male leads in anime
ANGE FTW

You have watched like NO ANIME at all, or you intentionally only watch anime with female protagonists.

Izayoi : http://ami.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/5524-2136618578.png (stronger, more intelligent and hilarious)
Yuusha : http://static.zerochan.net/Yuusha.%28Maoyu.Maou.Yusha%29.full.1315765.jpg (better in every way)
Ryner Lute : http://ami.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/1-1925249843.jpg (better in every way)

I know you're trying to do this whole... female empowerment thing but you don't need to try and make a comparison. You're just going to get buried.
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anyone noticed when ange and crew deploy off the aurora for a single scene the ship in in the water, however the scene before and after its flying. (roughly 12:41 in)
 
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anyone noticed when ange and crew deploy off the aurora for a single scene the ship in in the water, however the scene before and after its flying. (roughly 12:41 in)


Yeah, pretty lame indeed. Not saying It surprises me by this point.
 
Mar 15, 2015 7:07 PM
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Based Ange alpha as fuck.
 
Mar 15, 2015 7:30 PM

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Pretty annoyed that they don't feel the need to explain Tusk's survival at all but it's about what I expected. Animation quality especially for the first half of the episode or so was amazingly bad.

Despite those problems, this was otherwise a great episode. Great scene with Hilda and Ange. Also shooting the civilian was badass.
 
Mar 15, 2015 9:18 PM

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Holy shit, the animation this episode! It's hard for me to take it seriously sometimes.

Too many stupid fanservice (as usual) in the beginning. Really Ange, what is giving Tusk your pantsu supposed to do?

Lol @ Sylvia. What a worthless little bitch. I hope she dies. But it's even funnier when Ange shot that random citizen in front of her (funniest scene in the whole show so far).

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
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Shit son! Tusk x Ange x Hilda oh yeah baby haha :3
& Alektra badass next ep *o*
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Mar 15, 2015 10:38 PM

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Ange is a lesbian confirmed! And hahaha isn't Tusk a lucky one :p? since he received Ange's panties!
 
Mar 15, 2015 10:49 PM

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Last episode next week?
 
Mar 15, 2015 11:32 PM
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lol she just shoots the guy in the head. No f*cks were given that day.

This episode was pretty epic so long as you try to forget the infamous episode 22
 
Mar 16, 2015 12:09 AM
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Last episode next week?


No there are 25 episodes in the series. So we still have 2 more episodes.
 
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i liked this show better before embryo came into the picture and threw the plot on its head. but these last few episodes have made it more entertaining because the writers are basically going balls to wall with fan service and killing characters to tie it up.

the elektra death flags were all over the place though. salia should live, otherwise her tragic fall wont have any meaning.
 
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Or I can just believe that the writing sucks.


You can, though that's not a fact when the show has been doing exactly what it intended to do from the very beginning.



Eh, dunno about Izayoi since I didn't see his show but Yuusha & Ryner Lute? No way dude, that's just an opinion. Granted, I do think Ryner's pretty awesome.
 
Mar 16, 2015 2:13 AM
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when's the 3 some AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy


holy shit i'm convinced this show is a comedy b/c it is laughably bad
i like how Ange just randomly executes a civilian lmfaooo then her sister proceeds to wetting herself oh god i'm dying
 
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